RA Transcript Meeting January 25, 2014

[Rosie Gray]

[2014/01/25 15:08:44] Shep (shep.titian): OK .. Calling the meeting to order
[2014/01/25 15:09:22] Shep (shep.titian): I have a 7 day request from Cleo .. who might yet up
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[2014/01/25 15:10:06] Shep (shep.titian): *turn
[2014/01/25 15:10:09] Callipygian Christensen: /me waves - could a notice go out to the group or is my group stuff borked again?
[2014/01/25 15:10:29] Rosie Gray: I'll send one
[2014/01/25 15:10:36] Shep (shep.titian): OK I'll do it
[2014/01/25 15:10:40] Delia Lake: /me didn't get any group notice either
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[2014/01/25 15:12:16] Rosie Gray: I just sent one Shep
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[2014/01/25 15:15:29] Shep (shep.titian): Sorry Rosie .. once I start typing I stop reading
[2014/01/25 15:16:18] Shep (shep.titian): Ok .. anything more before we get started?
[2014/01/25 15:16:51] Shep (shep.titian): Good
[2014/01/25 15:16:56] Rosie Gray: any word from Gwyn?
[2014/01/25 15:17:06] Shep (shep.titian): Meeting called to order
[2014/01/25 15:17:15] Shep (shep.titian): No none
[2014/01/25 15:18:03] Bagheera Kristan: Gwyn said she'd try to make it but wasn't sure
[2014/01/25 15:18:07] Shep (shep.titian): And I repeat for the minutes I have a 7 day request from Cleo .. if she can't make it
[2014/01/25 15:18:46] Soro (soro.dagostino): /me raises hand
[2014/01/25 15:18:52] Shep (shep.titian): Ok can we approve today's agenda?
[2014/01/25 15:19:03] Shep (shep.titian): Soro?
[2014/01/25 15:19:11] Rosie Gray: Motion to approve the Agenda as presented
[2014/01/25 15:19:23] Shep (shep.titian): seconded
[2014/01/25 15:19:29] Soro (soro.dagostino): Point of Order . . .How many meetings has Gwyn missed?
[2014/01/25 15:19:31] Shep (shep.titian): Vote
[2014/01/25 15:19:34] Shep (shep.titian): aye
[2014/01/25 15:19:39] Rosie Gray: aye
[2014/01/25 15:19:41] Tor Karlsvalt: aye
[2014/01/25 15:20:09] Shep (shep.titian): THis is either 2 or 3 Soro ... why?
[2014/01/25 15:20:27] Shep (shep.titian): Agenda passed
[2014/01/25 15:20:37] Soro (soro.dagostino): A thought to keep in mind when thinking about removal for failure to attend.
[2014/01/25 15:21:15] Shep (shep.titian): oooooooooooo
[2014/01/25 15:21:57] Shep (shep.titian): OK thank you .. I'll look to that ...
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[2014/01/25 15:22:32] Shep (shep.titian): OK Minutes of the last meeting
[2014/01/25 15:22:39] Rosie Gray: http://forums.slcds.info/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4271
[2014/01/25 15:22:56] Rosie Gray: Motion to accept the last meeting Minutes as presented
[2014/01/25 15:23:19] Rosie Gray: /me waves hello to Arria
[2014/01/25 15:23:19] Shep (shep.titian): second
[2014/01/25 15:23:27] Shep (shep.titian): Vote
[2014/01/25 15:23:31] Shep (shep.titian): aye
[2014/01/25 15:23:32] Tor Karlsvalt: aye
[2014/01/25 15:23:34] Rosie Gray: aye
[2014/01/25 15:23:42] Arria Perreault: Hello Rosie ㋡
[2014/01/25 15:23:48] Shep (shep.titian): Cool minuites accepted
[2014/01/25 15:23:49] Rosie Gray: ㋡
[2014/01/25 15:23:52] Arria Perreault: Hello everybody ㋡
[2014/01/25 15:23:56] Tor Karlsvalt: /me waves to Arria.
[2014/01/25 15:24:23] Soro (soro.dagostino): Hello Arria . . .
[2014/01/25 15:24:36] Shep (shep.titian): I think our main speaker today is Bags ...
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[2014/01/25 15:24:59] Bagheera Kristan: LOL
[2014/01/25 15:25:10] Shep (shep.titian): OK .. citizens concerns
[2014/01/25 15:26:08] Shep (shep.titian): Wonderful
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[2014/01/25 15:26:47] Shep (shep.titian): I hope this is a sign of general happiness
[2014/01/25 15:27:18] Rosie Gray: /me raises a hand
[2014/01/25 15:28:01] Shep (shep.titian): OK Old Business ... Bags are you still working with the guild on LA? or going it alone?
[2014/01/25 15:28:09] Rosie Gray: ahem
[2014/01/25 15:28:13] Shep (shep.titian): Rosie
[2014/01/25 15:28:14] Rosie Gray: /me looks at her hand
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[2014/01/25 15:28:42] Rosie Gray: before moving on... perhaps our newer citizens don't realize that 'Citizens Concerns' means that they can raise a topic?
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[2014/01/25 15:28:58] Pip Torok: they do now!
[2014/01/25 15:29:07] Rosie Gray:
[2014/01/25 15:29:07] Tor Karlsvalt: /me waives to Colt.
[2014/01/25 15:29:14] Shep (shep.titian): REminds Rosie that Shep is a one finger typist .. *grin
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[2014/01/25 15:29:33] Callipygian Christensen: /me raises her hand
[2014/01/25 15:29:46] Shep (shep.titian): Calli?
[2014/01/25 15:29:53] Rosie Gray: just wanted to be sure it was understood, before we moved on.
[2014/01/25 15:29:55] Rosie Gray: done
[2014/01/25 15:30:11] Callipygian Christensen: sorry.. I missed the call for speakers on todays adenda items..I will be
[2014/01/25 15:30:33] Shep (shep.titian): OK nps Calli
[2014/01/25 15:30:42] Soro (soro.dagostino): /me raises hand
[2014/01/25 15:30:49] Shep (shep.titian): Soro?
[2014/01/25 15:30:57] Soro (soro.dagostino): Same. I will be too
[2014/01/25 15:31:06] Shep (shep.titian): ok
[2014/01/25 15:31:47] Shep (shep.titian): OK ... LA what is the latest please Bags?
[2014/01/25 15:31:59] Bagheera Kristan: okay
[2014/01/25 15:32:12] Bagheera Kristan: After meetings and talks with Rosie and Guild Members, and a lot of work that definitely needs to be acknowledged (!) done by the Guild and Tor ...
[2014/01/25 15:32:23] Bagheera Kristan: last week there was an agreement I would finish the parceling and the Guild was on board for the actual “doing”
[2014/01/25 15:32:33] Bagheera Kristan: .. moving forward from there with building, etc.
[2014/01/25 15:32:43] Bagheera Kristan: - I am prepared to present the a suggested parcel map and revenue report to present to the RA for consideration... today.
[2014/01/25 15:32:51] Bagheera Kristan: - I am prepared to present the a suggested parcel map and revenue report to present to the RA for consideration... today.
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[2014/01/25 15:33:25] Bagheera Kristan: - I am prepared to present the a suggested parcel map andif the RA would like me to do that?
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[2014/01/25 15:33:57] Tor Karlsvalt: Hi Cleo
[2014/01/25 15:34:01] Rosie Gray: hello Cleo
[2014/01/25 15:34:03] Shep (shep.titian): Yes please do
[2014/01/25 15:34:09] Bagheera Kristan: okay, just a moment please
[2014/01/25 15:34:31] Bagheera Kristan: The Object you have received entitled Locus Amoenus Proposal is a book you can wear as a HUD - it contains all the same textures as are on the wall here.
[2014/01/25 15:34:31] Arria Perreault: Hi Cleo
[2014/01/25 15:34:36] Shep (shep.titian): Hi Cleo
[2014/01/25 15:34:58] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: Hello thank you sorry i am late
[2014/01/25 15:35:35] Bagheera Kristan: Hi can everyone see the textures and/or did you get the book/HUD?
[2014/01/25 15:35:39] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: Saturday is not a great time for me or Gwyn .. we thought we were to alternate meetings to weekdays
[2014/01/25 15:36:33] Bagheera Kristan: The idea is to create an attractive sim - obviously

also - because it is a 2x sim
requires balancing between revenues required
and keeping enough prims available
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[2014/01/25 15:36:48] Bagheera Kristan: per Sudane, the cost of the sim comes out to $295.00/month
The parcels shown on this proposal come out to a total revenue of 372.62/month
of which 80% is 298.09
[2014/01/25 15:36:59] Bagheera Kristan: I held a Chancellor’s meeting last week to get citizen input into the plan
one idea that was overwhelmingly popular was water parcels with liveaboard boats
so that is a new concept since last time I talked to the RA
[2014/01/25 15:37:11] Bagheera Kristan: Otherwise, many concepts are the same as presented before, but with new layouts to achieve to revenue requirements.
[2014/01/25 15:37:17] CLEOPATRA Xigalia:
[2014/01/25 15:37:29] Bagheera Kristan: DONE and open for questions
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[2014/01/25 15:38:00] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: Can someone send me what I have missed ../? please
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[2014/01/25 15:39:25] Tor Karlsvalt: /me raises hand
[2014/01/25 15:39:39] Shep (shep.titian): Tor
[2014/01/25 15:39:42] Tor Karlsvalt: Thank
[2014/01/25 15:39:59] Tor Karlsvalt: Several points or considerations come to mind.
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[2014/01/25 15:40:51] Tor Karlsvalt: One, I was hoping we could have some cliffs and beach along the north edge. Two I was wondering if we have a roundabout if we coujld have some monument to our 10th anniversary.
[2014/01/25 15:40:57] Tor Karlsvalt: Done
[2014/01/25 15:41:17] Bagheera Kristan: good thoughts, both.. I had seen the cliffs idea
[2014/01/25 15:41:48] Bagheera Kristan: and there is room to maybe slip them in - it is a tight fit, but I did try to make room for them.. the
[2014/01/25 15:42:11] Bagheera Kristan: the proof will be when we start terraforming, since that comes with an indeterminant margin when changing elevations
[2014/01/25 15:42:28] Rosie Gray: /me raises hand
[2014/01/25 15:42:32] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me raises hand
[2014/01/25 15:42:36] Bagheera Kristan: and perhaps the island I put where the center of the sim lies could hodl a monument
[2014/01/25 15:42:39] Shep (shep.titian): So in effect this has become your vision Bags?
[2014/01/25 15:42:42] Bagheera Kristan: or the roundabout
[2014/01/25 15:42:53] Bagheera Kristan: I had meetings with many people, Shep
[2014/01/25 15:42:55] Delia Lake: /me wonders if the new maps are posted anywhere as they are not rezzing for her...
[2014/01/25 15:42:56] Shep (shep.titian): Rosie
[2014/01/25 15:43:03] Shep (shep.titian): then Cleo
[2014/01/25 15:43:04] Rosie Gray: thank you Shep
[2014/01/25 15:43:34] Rosie Gray: I was wondering if there is an elevations map, or how will we know what the elevations are to be?
[2014/01/25 15:43:36] Rosie Gray: done
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[2014/01/25 15:43:54] Shep (shep.titian): Cleo
[2014/01/25 15:44:23] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: Baghera, thank you for this work you have done while leaving all citizens who live in LA not only in the same parcel they are in now.. without disruptioin, but
[2014/01/25 15:44:48] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: also thank you for taking the time to meet with the citizen of LA and explain it to them and more than that get feedback from them.
[2014/01/25 15:44:56] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: and incorporate that feedback
[2014/01/25 15:45:03] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: I am interested in knowing
[2014/01/25 15:45:17] Bagheera Kristan: I did not know how to show elevations but they are very similar to the existing sim, except for more water - there will be a breakwater wall that offsets the need for extreme terraforming - I think I've discussed taht before
[2014/01/25 15:45:33] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: if we approve this today as i do hope we do.. how long will it be fore you can start and then finish the work .. ?
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[2014/01/25 15:45:58] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: Are you ready to go ?
[2014/01/25 15:46:03] Bagheera Kristan: let me finish with Rosie's question first, please
[2014/01/25 15:46:21] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: oh i thought she said cleo, sorry .. (
[2014/01/25 15:46:27] Bagheera Kristan: Rosie, did I answer your question? no there isn't a map - the change is not extreme - but I will try to make one
[2014/01/25 15:47:09] Rosie Gray: I was really wondering about the water edge specifically, as it runs up to CN
[2014/01/25 15:47:22] Rosie Gray: and the fishing village area too
[2014/01/25 15:47:22] Bagheera Kristan: yes
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[2014/01/25 15:47:31] Rosie Gray: but a verbal description works too
[2014/01/25 15:48:18] Rosie Gray: especially if you are doing the terraformingt
[2014/01/25 15:48:21] Shep (shep.titian): There is quite a drop from CN joining top the water l;evel
[2014/01/25 15:48:27] Bagheera Kristan: The fishing village will above a breakwater wall, so terraforming won't be as critical - I was out scouting the connection with Colonia Nova just this morning to be sure I was right - there will be more water, so the slope into the water itself will be steeper
[2014/01/25 15:48:55] CLEOPATRA Xigalia:
[2014/01/25 15:48:58] Bagheera Kristan: but but there will also be a breakwater wall
[2014/01/25 15:50:02] Rosie Gray: /me nods
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[2014/01/25 15:50:19] Shep (shep.titian): ok
[2014/01/25 15:50:35] Bagheera Kristan: yes, Cleo's question - timing -
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[2014/01/25 15:51:05] Shep (shep.titian): And I see you've worked out the tier needed and cut parcels accordingly
[2014/01/25 15:51:10] Bagheera Kristan: I see opening the sim in phases - as an area is completed, it can be made available for sale
[2014/01/25 15:51:34] Bagheera Kristan: yes, Shep
[2014/01/25 15:51:35] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me raises hand
[2014/01/25 15:51:45] Shep (shep.titian): Cleo
[2014/01/25 15:52:08] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: I am curious especial what AbbyRose thinks of Bagherras plan, as she is one of the larger land holders in the sim
[2014/01/25 15:52:15] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: especially..
[2014/01/25 15:52:17] Soro (soro.dagostino): /me raises hand
[2014/01/25 15:52:20] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: and she is here
[2014/01/25 15:52:24] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: AbbyRose ?
[2014/01/25 15:52:31] AbbyRose Abbot: raises hand
[2014/01/25 15:52:35] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: and Lia ..
[2014/01/25 15:52:45] Shep (shep.titian): Soro asked first
[2014/01/25 15:52:54] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: i asked Abbyrose to speak it would be poliite
[2014/01/25 15:53:01] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: to let our citizen talk i think ..
[2014/01/25 15:53:15] Soro (soro.dagostino): I was going to suggest the sale be by public noticed auction.
[2014/01/25 15:53:39] Soro (soro.dagostino): A free for All, best money wins it all.
[2014/01/25 15:53:43] Shep (shep.titian): Interesting thought Soro
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[2014/01/25 15:54:04] Shep (shep.titian): Abby?
[2014/01/25 15:54:05] Pip Torok: /me remembers that it is for LRA's to invite speakers ...
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[2014/01/25 15:54:35] Shep (shep.titian): As I just did Pip
[2014/01/25 15:54:40] AbbyRose Abbot: Hi. I guess I have two things. First, I am excited about the plan moving foreward.
[2014/01/25 15:55:34] AbbyRose Abbot: Secondly, I am unsure what Soro means about public auction. Are you suggesting current citizens would be displaced, Soro?
[2014/01/25 15:55:50] Soro (soro.dagostino): Yes
[2014/01/25 15:56:03] Shep (shep.titian): Oooooh
[2014/01/25 15:56:04] Soro (soro.dagostino): They have no special right to buy.
[2014/01/25 15:56:16] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me looks suprized ! oooooooo
[2014/01/25 15:56:16] AbbyRose Abbot: We live there all ready.
[2014/01/25 15:56:25] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me raises hand
[2014/01/25 15:56:42] Shep (shep.titian): Cleo?
[2014/01/25 15:57:03] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: Soro do you really mean that you would auction the currently occupied spaces, or only the ones that will be new ?
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[2014/01/25 15:57:27] Soro (soro.dagostino): /me raises hand.
[2014/01/25 15:57:39] Shep (shep.titian): Soro?
[2014/01/25 15:58:00] Soro (soro.dagostino): Thank your for the permission to speak madame chair.
[2014/01/25 15:58:43] Soro (soro.dagostino): The debate has revolved over a means to avoid taking parces from current citizens.
[2014/01/25 15:59:25] Soro (soro.dagostino): But, but the same token CDS citizens have no special right to amass more property.
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[2014/01/25 15:59:48] Soro (soro.dagostino): So they should bid for "new parcels" against any others.
[2014/01/25 15:59:53] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me raises hand
[2014/01/25 16:00:03] Shep (shep.titian): Cleo
[2014/01/25 16:00:12] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: Not that it would have ot be followed ...
[2014/01/25 16:00:24] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: but there is precedent in how we sell land in new simso
[2014/01/25 16:00:29] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: Delia and Arria will know.
[2014/01/25 16:00:56] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: My recollection is that typically actually we DO give current CDS citizens the right to buy land first.. just fyi
[2014/01/25 16:01:10] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: done
[2014/01/25 16:01:13] Soro (soro.dagostino): That is not as I remember it.
[2014/01/25 16:01:21] Soro (soro.dagostino): Arria paid for the sim.
[2014/01/25 16:01:25] Callipygian Christensen: /me raises her hand
[2014/01/25 16:01:33] Bagheera Kristan: at this point, I was only hoping to get the plan approved.. we are some days if not weeks from selling still
[2014/01/25 16:01:38] Bagheera Kristan: lol
[2014/01/25 16:01:47] Shep (shep.titian): WEll Soro raises a good point .. there is likely to be an oversubscription if the redo turns out well
[2014/01/25 16:01:50] AbbyRose Abbot: raises hand.
[2014/01/25 16:02:07] Bagheera Kristan: k pardon
[2014/01/25 16:02:18] Rosie Gray: /me raises hand
[2014/01/25 16:02:19] Tor Karlsvalt: /me raises hand.
[2014/01/25 16:02:20] Shep (shep.titian): Abby
[2014/01/25 16:02:29] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me raises hand
[2014/01/25 16:02:41] Shep (shep.titian): then Rosie then Tor
[2014/01/25 16:02:45] AbbyRose Abbot: I'd like to see the plan passed and move foreward with the redo.
[2014/01/25 16:02:52] Shep (shep.titian): then Cleo
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[2014/01/25 16:03:29] Shep (shep.titian): Please say done if you are finished
[2014/01/25 16:03:30] AbbyRose Abbot: left chat range.
[2014/01/25 16:03:49] Shep (shep.titian): ok offline counts
[2014/01/25 16:03:53] Shep (shep.titian): Rosie
[2014/01/25 16:03:56] Rosie Gray: thank you
[2014/01/25 16:04:00] Callipygian Christensen: /me coughs and points back at her waving hand
[2014/01/25 16:04:01] Rosie Gray: we are off topic now
[2014/01/25 16:04:10] Rosie Gray: and I would like to get back to the Agenda
[2014/01/25 16:04:12] Rosie Gray: done
[2014/01/25 16:04:25] Shep (shep.titian): Sorry .. going back to Calli
[2014/01/25 16:04:57] Shep (shep.titian): We kind of are Rosie
[2014/01/25 16:05:18] Callipygian Christensen: thank you - no matter what method is used, some specific, announced method of selling the newly released parcels IS needed . Could you leve it with the Chancellor and Sudane to work out what that is before the time comes. Done.
[2014/01/25 16:05:48] Rosie Gray: /me nods in agreement with Calli
[2014/01/25 16:06:29] Shep (shep.titian): I agree it needs to be seperated from the general proposal
[2014/01/25 16:06:42] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me raises hand still
[2014/01/25 16:06:56] Tor Karlsvalt: /me has a tired hand.
[2014/01/25 16:07:06] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: poor tors hand
[2014/01/25 16:07:06] Shep (shep.titian): Still Tor first Cleo
[2014/01/25 16:07:13] Tor Karlsvalt: ok
[2014/01/25 16:07:14] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: kk
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[2014/01/25 16:07:30] Shep (shep.titian): Did'nt forget
[2014/01/25 16:07:30] Tor Karlsvalt: I agree with Callie and Rosie. First this is a bit premature.
[2014/01/25 16:07:43] Tor Karlsvalt: We should focus on the build first.
[2014/01/25 16:08:16] Tor Karlsvalt: I am reminded that Jamie was Chancellor when LA opened and he had a plan for citizens to buy parcels.
[2014/01/25 16:08:23] Shep (shep.titian): WE have tried that
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[2014/01/25 16:08:49] Tor Karlsvalt: I suggest that Chancellor look in the forums for the precedent set then and see if it might be applicable.
[2014/01/25 16:09:00] Bagheera Kristan: yes, I will, definitely
[2014/01/25 16:09:02] Tor Karlsvalt: Otherwise we can focus on the redo.
[2014/01/25 16:09:03] CLEOPATRA Xigalia:
[2014/01/25 16:09:04] Tor Karlsvalt: done
[2014/01/25 16:09:13] Shep (shep.titian): OK Cleo
[2014/01/25 16:09:42] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: I agree with you tor, not that it is necessary to follow it , but lets get it built. i agree.. and i did ask earlier about that, and time frames.. and
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[2014/01/25 16:09:48] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: it got lost in teh shuffle ..
[2014/01/25 16:09:54] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: CATZ ! hi !
[2014/01/25 16:10:05] Catz Jewell: hello cleo
[2014/01/25 16:10:05] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: so can you please let Bagheera answer again .
[2014/01/25 16:10:25] Shep (shep.titian): Bags
[2014/01/25 16:10:35] Bagheera Kristan: in part, the time frame depends on what gets approved if this gets approved as is .. some parcels would be ready within the week whereas others need Builds done
[2014/01/25 16:10:46] Bagheera Kristan: and I see I need to research how to sell this
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[2014/01/25 16:11:01] Bagheera Kristan: so, at the moment, I don't actually have a complete answer, or I am revising it now LOL
[2014/01/25 16:11:18] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me raises her hand for follow up to that answer
[2014/01/25 16:11:54] Shep (shep.titian): Is there anything different to what is agreed that needs voting on yet?
[2014/01/25 16:11:57] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: As tor said, building and selling can be separated, and i agree should, ... what are your time frames to "build" .. not to think about when to sell..
[2014/01/25 16:12:22] Bagheera Kristan: time frames - parceling and terraforming 3-4 days, building 1-3 weeks
[2014/01/25 16:12:35] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: : ty
[2014/01/25 16:13:04] Shep (shep.titian): Is the Guild still assisting with content?
[2014/01/25 16:13:10] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me raises hand. anohter question for the chancellor
[2014/01/25 16:13:14] Bagheera Kristan: yes
[2014/01/25 16:13:26] Shep (shep.titian): Cleo?
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[2014/01/25 16:13:48] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: What do you need from us today to get started. Tell us what you what, our esteeemed Chancellor:)
[2014/01/25 16:14:02] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: done
[2014/01/25 16:14:44] Bagheera Kristan: what I want... approval of this parceling OR an explanation of what needs to be changed so it can be done
[2014/01/25 16:14:59] Bagheera Kristan: please & thank you done
[2014/01/25 16:15:04] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me raises hand
[2014/01/25 16:15:12] Shep (shep.titian): Cleo
[2014/01/25 16:15:20] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: I propose we vote to approve the parceling as set forth today by Bagheera.
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[2014/01/25 16:15:42] Shep (shep.titian): I'll second
[2014/01/25 16:15:52] Rosie Gray: you'll need to form that as a proper motion, please
[2014/01/25 16:15:53] Shep (shep.titian): Please vote
[2014/01/25 16:16:00] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: AYE !!!
[2014/01/25 16:16:01] Rosie Gray: can't vote until I hear a proper motion
[2014/01/25 16:16:27] Shep (shep.titian): Rosie?
[2014/01/25 16:16:44] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: I move we vote to accept the chancellors proposal.
[2014/01/25 16:16:51] Rosie Gray: If Cleo is proposing a Motion, I'd like to hear it worded correctly as a Motion
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[2014/01/25 16:17:04] Rosie Gray: thank you
[2014/01/25 16:17:13] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: ok ..
[2014/01/25 16:17:19] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: ty rosie gray
[2014/01/25 16:17:39] Tor Karlsvalt: second
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[2014/01/25 16:18:39] Shep (shep.titian): Am I missing a post
[2014/01/25 16:18:46] Tor Karlsvalt: /me runs to get coffee.
[2014/01/25 16:18:50] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: Tor seconded it
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[2014/01/25 16:18:55] Shep (shep.titian): I did'nt see a new motion
[2014/01/25 16:18:59] Soro (soro.dagostino): /me raises hand
[2014/01/25 16:19:10] Rosie Gray: [16:16:44] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: I move we vote to accept the chancellors proposal.
[2014/01/25 16:19:10] Shep (shep.titian): Soro
[2014/01/25 16:19:12] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: CLEOPATRA Xigalia: I move we vote to accept the chancellors proposal.
[2014/01/25 16:19:25] Soro (soro.dagostino): Point of Order.
[2014/01/25 16:19:30] Shep (shep.titian): OOoh I don't have that
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[2014/01/25 16:19:45] Tor Karlsvalt: back
[2014/01/25 16:19:50] Tor Karlsvalt: /me repeats.
[2014/01/25 16:19:53] Shep (shep.titian): Soro
[2014/01/25 16:19:59] Tor Karlsvalt: second, Cleo's motion.
[2014/01/25 16:20:00] Soro (soro.dagostino): No motion was properly made, how can there be a second?
[2014/01/25 16:20:16] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me riases hand
[2014/01/25 16:20:26] Pip Torok: /me agrees with soro
[2014/01/25 16:21:17] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: I move that we accept the chancellors proposal to renovate L A .
[2014/01/25 16:21:51] Soro (soro.dagostino): . . . as published today as exhibit XXX?
[2014/01/25 16:21:57] Shep (shep.titian): OK I'll do it .. I propse we accept the Chancellors Plan for LA .. including the parcelling and terraforming plans .. the work to commence imediately
[2014/01/25 16:22:01] Rosie Gray: ...as presented?
[2014/01/25 16:22:16] Rosie Gray: /me sighs
[2014/01/25 16:22:57] Shep (shep.titian): . I propse we accept the Chancellors Plan for LA .. including the parcelling and terraforming plans .. the work to commence imediately as presented
[2014/01/25 16:23:10] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: second
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[2014/01/25 16:23:12] Rosie Gray: Shep, that's a proposal, not a Motion
[2014/01/25 16:23:32] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: substitute the word move for proposal.
[2014/01/25 16:23:44] Shep (shep.titian): FGS!
[2014/01/25 16:23:53] CLEOPATRA Xigalia:
[2014/01/25 16:23:54] Rosie Gray: sorry, but it's how you do it
[2014/01/25 16:24:14] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: . I move we accept the Chancellors Plan for LA .. including the parcelling and terraforming plans .. the work to commence imediately as presented
[2014/01/25 16:24:26] Rosie Gray: I second the motion
[2014/01/25 16:24:29] Rosie Gray: thank you Cleo
[2014/01/25 16:24:37] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: thank you rosie
[2014/01/25 16:24:47] Shep (shep.titian): Vote
[2014/01/25 16:24:58] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: AYE !
[2014/01/25 16:25:00] Rosie Gray: aye
[2014/01/25 16:25:11] Shep (shep.titian): Aye
[2014/01/25 16:25:12] Rosie Gray: /me pokes Tor
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[2014/01/25 16:25:39] Tor Karlsvalt: sure he voted but aye
[2014/01/25 16:25:45] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: ☆Applause☆
[2014/01/25 16:25:45] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: to Bagheera and the guild
[2014/01/25 16:25:53] Bagheera Kristan: whew thank you
[2014/01/25 16:26:07] Bagheera Kristan: raises hand
[2014/01/25 16:26:10] Shep (shep.titian): Well done Bags .. got there in the end
[2014/01/25 16:26:22] Shep (shep.titian): Bags
[2014/01/25 16:27:07] Bagheera Kristan: LOL..I forgot to say... I'd like to honor the people who contributed over the years - Tor, Rosie, Sudane, by naming some thing like streets or paths after them in the new build.. not for a vote, just a comment for later
[2014/01/25 16:27:23] Tor Karlsvalt:
[2014/01/25 16:27:29] Rosie Gray: cool
[2014/01/25 16:27:39] Bagheera Kristan: done *smiles*
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[2014/01/25 16:28:35] Shep (shep.titian): That would be sweet
[2014/01/25 16:29:24] Shep (shep.titian): Ok moving on
[2014/01/25 16:29:37] Shep (shep.titian): By-elections
[2014/01/25 16:30:24] Shep (shep.titian): We all seem to have put differing ideas on the forum ...
[2014/01/25 16:30:33] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me nods
[2014/01/25 16:31:14] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me raises hand
[2014/01/25 16:31:18] Shep (shep.titian): Now the one person who has made the most sense to me is Calli ...
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[2014/01/25 16:32:50] Shep (shep.titian): And as she knows some mysteries of our voting system .. could I ask you to give us your idea Calli?
[2014/01/25 16:33:56] Callipygian Christensen: sorry..was afk a second
[2014/01/25 16:34:06] Shep (shep.titian): thats ok
[2014/01/25 16:34:32] Callipygian Christensen: ok
[2014/01/25 16:34:56] Callipygian Christensen: the appoint from the previous election candidates if they are till willing is quite workable..
[2014/01/25 16:35:23] Callipygian Christensen: return to factions did not seem to be a popular suggestion..
[2014/01/25 16:35:51] Garnet Psaltery: Sorry, have to go off and file AR against Cleo
[2014/01/25 16:35:56] Callipygian Christensen: so I posted what I think can work in the event an actual by-election - no matter what kind of vote..has to be held..
[2014/01/25 16:36:00] Callipygian Christensen: it is here http://forums.slcds.info/viewtopic.php? ... =15#p21445
[2014/01/25 16:36:33] Garnet Psaltery: I told you not to IM me - in front of witnesses yet here you are doing it again
[2014/01/25 16:36:36] Shep (shep.titian): Garnet .. do you have a problem?
[2014/01/25 16:36:44] Garnet Psaltery: whispers: NOW GET THE HELL OUT OF MY FACE
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[2014/01/25 16:37:26] Callipygian Christensen: That post explains the difficulty, timewise, of what we currently need to do and gives an option to address it.
[2014/01/25 16:38:52] Callipygian Christensen: If it is something that RA would like to consider, I'll be happy to post wording of an actual motion to the forums for discussion and vote at the next RA
[2014/01/25 16:38:55] Callipygian Christensen: done
[2014/01/25 16:40:18] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me raises hand
[2014/01/25 16:40:22] Shep (shep.titian): PLease if you could Calli ...
[2014/01/25 16:40:33] Shep (shep.titian): Cleo
[2014/01/25 16:40:36] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me moves we table this til we can get a meeting with a time that works for Gwyn, she needs to have meetings alternate from weekdays to weekends.
[2014/01/25 16:40:54] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: its what we agreed. done
[2014/01/25 16:41:10] Shep (shep.titian): She can post to the forum though
[2014/01/25 16:41:22] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me raises hand
[2014/01/25 16:41:24] Rosie Gray: /me raises hand
[2014/01/25 16:41:28] Shep (shep.titian): Cleo
[2014/01/25 16:41:55] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: But she cannot take part in the pre vote debate if the meetings arent at a time she can be here, We were both gone last saturday so , obviously its nto a good time.
[2014/01/25 16:42:26] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: last satuday meeting .. done
[2014/01/25 16:42:38] Shep (shep.titian): No and this vote needs a 4 of five aye
[2014/01/25 16:42:54] Callipygian Christensen: Since I am suggesting it be discussed in the Forums *before* the next meeting, I dont see the problem - it is just efficient to have the background discussion done ahead of time.
[2014/01/25 16:43:13] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me raises her hand.
[2014/01/25 16:43:13] Shep (shep.titian): But again it could be forum done with a 7 day vote
[2014/01/25 16:43:25] Shep (shep.titian): Cleo
[2014/01/25 16:43:26] Rosie Gray: /me notices her hand still in the air
[2014/01/25 16:43:33] Rosie Gray: ahem
[2014/01/25 16:43:37] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: they were before me.. and a motion is on the table
[2014/01/25 16:43:43] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: done
[2014/01/25 16:43:54] Shep (shep.titian): Rosie
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[2014/01/25 16:44:03] Rosie Gray: thanks
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[2014/01/25 16:44:14] Shep (shep.titian): No motion
[2014/01/25 16:44:33] Rosie Gray: I'm not opposed to a weekday meeting, but I know Tor can't do them in the daytime and I can't usually do evenings
[2014/01/25 16:44:47] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: [16:40] CLEOPATRA Xigalia moves we table this til we can get a meeting with a time that works for Gwyn, she needs to have meetings alternate from weekdays to weekends.
[2014/01/25 16:44:48] Rosie Gray: when Gwyn was asked when she is available, she didn't really have a 'good' time
[2014/01/25 16:44:58] Rosie Gray: nobody has seconded your motion though Cleo
[2014/01/25 16:45:18] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me sighs.. the LRA should ask for a second. but so be it. and
[2014/01/25 16:45:36] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: we all agreed to alternate weekly meetings from weekdays to weekend if i recall
[2014/01/25 16:45:41] Rosie Gray: I just think it's difficult to pick a time when Gwyn can be here, because she's said no particular time is best for her
[2014/01/25 16:45:43] Shep (shep.titian): I concur with Rosie .. meetings are done when best for all
[2014/01/25 16:45:51] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: all is all five of us
[2014/01/25 16:45:59] Tor Karlsvalt: yeah
[2014/01/25 16:46:27] Shep (shep.titian): We are'nt the musketeers
[2014/01/25 16:46:27] Rosie Gray: done
[2014/01/25 16:46:29] Tor Karlsvalt: She mentiond that Sat moring wasn't good I think, nor it seems Sat. evening.
[2014/01/25 16:46:43] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: saturdays are not good for her or me
[2014/01/25 16:46:52] Callipygian Christensen: /me waves her hand
[2014/01/25 16:46:57] Rosie Gray: but when IS good for Gwyn?
[2014/01/25 16:47:06] Shep (shep.titian): Calli
[2014/01/25 16:47:10] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: She said tuesdays at night i believe .
[2014/01/25 16:47:30] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: did you ask her before you scheduled this one ?
[2014/01/25 16:47:48] Callipygian Christensen: thank you. Madame LRA and members of the RA, since you are veering off into other matters, I will post a motion to the leg discussssion, as a citizen, and expect it to be on th e next agenda of RA
[2014/01/25 16:47:55] Shep (shep.titian): No ... not seen her
[2014/01/25 16:48:03] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me raises hand.
[2014/01/25 16:48:07] Callipygian Christensen: No need for any further discussion
[2014/01/25 16:48:15] Rosie Gray: lol
[2014/01/25 16:48:18] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: wonders who is in charge of the RA ?
[2014/01/25 16:48:26] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: dean of the SC is out of order
[2014/01/25 16:48:29] Shep (shep.titian): Nor has she been in touch to suggest a tim,e she is available
[2014/01/25 16:48:30] Soro (soro.dagostino): The LRA
[2014/01/25 16:48:37] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: She has no right to demand we do anything.
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[2014/01/25 16:49:27] Shep (shep.titian): Cleo pull your head in please
[2014/01/25 16:49:35] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me raises hand
[2014/01/25 16:49:42] Shep (shep.titian): Cleo
[2014/01/25 16:49:51] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: What does "pull your head in " mean?
[2014/01/25 16:49:57] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: im not familiar with that term. done
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[2014/01/25 16:50:15] Shep (shep.titian): Brit expression meaning be quiet
[2014/01/25 16:50:25] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me raises hand
[2014/01/25 16:50:31] Rosie Gray: /me raises hand
[2014/01/25 16:50:32] Shep (shep.titian): Cleo
[2014/01/25 16:50:50] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: I move we table this until we can have an inworld discussion with all five members as it is a constitutional change.
[2014/01/25 16:51:29] Shep (shep.titian): We can table it .. but Forum will do ...
[2014/01/25 16:51:33] Shep (shep.titian): Rosie
[2014/01/25 16:51:50] Rosie Gray: I'd consider seconding that motion, but amended
[2014/01/25 16:52:15] Rosie Gray: that instead of inworld discussion, the discussion be on the forum
[2014/01/25 16:52:28] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me raises hand
[2014/01/25 16:52:47] Rosie Gray: and also that it include first Calli's proposed posting, so that we have some reasonable starting point
[2014/01/25 16:53:04] Rosie Gray: would you consider amending your motion to include those things, Cleo?
[2014/01/25 16:53:09] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: 1. it should be on a forum post that is ONLY RA members.. and its not the same.. anyway as a live proposal
[2014/01/25 16:53:10] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: NO
[2014/01/25 16:53:33] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: and i think we need to always do forums and debate live a constitutional change
[2014/01/25 16:53:36] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: done
[2014/01/25 16:53:55] Callipygian Christensen: /me raises her hand
[2014/01/25 16:54:05] Shep (shep.titian): Calli
[2014/01/25 16:54:21] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me raises hand.
[2014/01/25 16:54:30] Callipygian Christensen: thank you. Any citizen has the right to propose legislation and ask a member of RA to present it.
[2014/01/25 16:55:07] Shep (shep.titian): Yes
[2014/01/25 16:55:38] Callipygian Christensen: So to say that I ( and I am speaking as a citizen, not as the Dean) am out of order is incorrect. YOu are welcome to debate and discuss it in your private forum..but I will post it, as a citizen. done
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[2014/01/25 16:55:43] Tor Karlsvalt: /me nods
[2014/01/25 16:55:47] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me raises hand
[2014/01/25 16:56:00] Rosie Gray: /me raises hand
[2014/01/25 16:56:36] Tor Karlsvalt: /me raises hand.
[2014/01/25 16:56:46] Shep (shep.titian): Cleo then Rosie and can we wrap this please it's getting silly
[2014/01/25 16:56:52] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: two things.. 1.
[2014/01/25 16:56:54] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: Forum threads are not the same as having meetings in world, .. if we think the forums negate or are equal to inworld meetings, why are we here now ?
[2014/01/25 16:56:56] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: and 2.
[2014/01/25 16:57:14] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: There should be two threads, ONE that is only RA members. and another one that is public. thank you .
[2014/01/25 16:57:15] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: done
[2014/01/25 16:58:09] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: next
[2014/01/25 16:58:27] Shep (shep.titian): Rosioe
[2014/01/25 16:58:33] Rosie Gray: thank you
[2014/01/25 16:58:38] Shep (shep.titian): ooop Rosie
[2014/01/25 16:58:54] Rosie Gray: since there was no second to Cleo's motion, I will make one:
[2014/01/25 16:59:20] Shep (shep.titian): please do
[2014/01/25 17:00:00] Rosie Gray: Motion: to have discussions about by-elections moved to the forum, and have the thread follow Calli's proposed outline. After this discussion, to follow up at the next meeting.
[2014/01/25 17:00:08] Rosie Gray: done
[2014/01/25 17:00:21] Tor Karlsvalt: second
[2014/01/25 17:00:28] Shep (shep.titian): vote
[2014/01/25 17:00:31] Tor Karlsvalt: aye
[2014/01/25 17:00:32] Shep (shep.titian): aye
[2014/01/25 17:00:32] Rosie Gray: aye
[2014/01/25 17:00:36] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: abstain
[2014/01/25 17:00:56] Shep (shep.titian): Cleo behave
[2014/01/25 17:01:05] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: my vote is to abstain.
[2014/01/25 17:01:12] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: it still passes.
[2014/01/25 17:01:25] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: What do you mean behave ?
[2014/01/25 17:01:34] Shep (shep.titian): Now is that passed as its not constitutional yet ?
[2014/01/25 17:01:39] Rosie Gray: can we move on please?
[2014/01/25 17:01:40] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: yes
[2014/01/25 17:01:44] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: please do
[2014/01/25 17:02:30] Shep (shep.titian): Ok .. don't come back at me saying it should'nt have passed
[2014/01/25 17:02:36] Shep (shep.titian): Moving on
[2014/01/25 17:02:42] Shep (shep.titian): Budget
[2014/01/25 17:03:07] Shep (shep.titian): Bags .. you want to present please
[2014/01/25 17:03:19] Bagheera Kristan: Certainly, thank you Madame LRA
[2014/01/25 17:04:02] Bagheera Kristan: The budget was posted on the forums last Wednesday, here: http://forums.slcds.info/viewtopic.php? ... 423#p21423
[2014/01/25 17:04:23] Bagheera Kristan: Would the RA like to to repost or just take questions?
[2014/01/25 17:04:31] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me raises hand
[2014/01/25 17:04:36] Bagheera Kristan: like *me* to repost..
[2014/01/25 17:04:40] Shep (shep.titian): Cleo
[2014/01/25 17:05:10] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: thank you for putting this budget together Bagheera.

I would like to further understand the Revenue situation.


Where do we see the revenue month by month, for the past two years. So we can see trends in revenue etc? Can we see details in revenue by sim?
[2014/01/25 17:06:15] Bagheera Kristan: Sudane, our Treasurer, can better answer to that level of detail..I looked at the past year's performance
[2014/01/25 17:06:35] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: ok
[2014/01/25 17:06:37] Bagheera Kristan: and I looked at it as a whole, not sim by sim, so I don't have an immediate answer for you
[2014/01/25 17:06:37] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: done
[2014/01/25 17:07:02] Tor Karlsvalt: /me raises hand.
[2014/01/25 17:07:08] Shep (shep.titian): Tor
[2014/01/25 17:07:28] Tor Karlsvalt: Thanks,
[2014/01/25 17:08:32] Tor Karlsvalt: Bags thank you for the budget. I was wondering if you could agree that past years do not have too much bearing on the current situation as our income has improved last term and is likely to be good or better this term? done
[2014/01/25 17:09:10] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me raises hand
[2014/01/25 17:09:16] Bagheera Kristan: I believe and hope that to be the case, Tor.. the real world also recently has gone through an economic slump and appears in recovery.. so I think we can see that reflected in SL (I hope).
[2014/01/25 17:09:35] Shep (shep.titian): Cleo
[2014/01/25 17:09:40] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: I understand that the revenue for the month of December 2013 was L$302,665.
[2014/01/25 17:09:46] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: I move we approve the budget.
[2014/01/25 17:09:56] Tor Karlsvalt: second
[2014/01/25 17:09:57] Callipygian Christensen: /me raises her hand
[2014/01/25 17:10:04] Shep (shep.titian): Ok Vote
[2014/01/25 17:10:07] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: aye
[2014/01/25 17:10:12] Callipygian Christensen: /me coughs
[2014/01/25 17:10:13] Shep (shep.titian): Calli
[2014/01/25 17:10:45] Tor Karlsvalt: point of order. Callie requested the floor.
[2014/01/25 17:11:08] Shep (shep.titian): I've called her
[2014/01/25 17:11:12] Callipygian Christensen: Bags - I note the post of the advertising/promotion amount - since that amount was, I thought, meant to come from reserves or surplus, should it actually be listed there?
[2014/01/25 17:11:38] Pip Torok: /me realises that "I would like to further understand the Revenue situation." is a ploy to look good and waste ppls time ....
[2014/01/25 17:12:39] Bagheera Kristan: Calli - different organizations use different methods - as I understand it - in balance sheets. In my experience, I have seen special funding given its own line item - it is a way to retain accountability, so I followed that, to show my intention. If you think it should be struck, that is up for discussion
[2014/01/25 17:13:04] Second Life: pet Karu is offline.
[2014/01/25 17:13:11] Shep (shep.titian): Pip who called you?
[2014/01/25 17:13:26] Rosie Gray: /me raises hand
[2014/01/25 17:13:40] Callipygian Christensen: I am not sure, lol..it is a difference of a couple of hundred real dollars to the bottom line if it should be accounted for separately..so just checking
[2014/01/25 17:13:45] Shep (shep.titian): Rosie
[2014/01/25 17:13:50] Rosie Gray: thank you
[2014/01/25 17:13:56] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me raises hand too
[2014/01/25 17:14:15] Shep (shep.titian): After Rosie Cleo
[2014/01/25 17:14:46] Rosie Gray: I think if that line item is coming out of reserves, it might be better as a seperate item notated after these expenses coming out of the working budget
[2014/01/25 17:15:08] Rosie Gray: but I agree that showing it in the term budget is good, if that's what we are going to be doing
[2014/01/25 17:15:11] Rosie Gray: done
[2014/01/25 17:15:40] Rosie Gray: *showing it somewhere*
[2014/01/25 17:15:51] Tor Karlsvalt: /me nods.
[2014/01/25 17:16:12] Bagheera Kristan: I would be happy to amend the way I presented it, but I'd need help to be sure I meet specifications...my intention was just to show that the money was being spent which I think was what the RA wanted & for the purposes it wanted it for
[2014/01/25 17:16:26] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: I move that we approve the budget Bagheera presented to us ,
[2014/01/25 17:16:38] Rosie Gray: second
[2014/01/25 17:16:41] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: with
[2014/01/25 17:16:47] Shep (shep.titian): Ok vote
[2014/01/25 17:16:53] Shep (shep.titian): Aye
[2014/01/25 17:16:53] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: aye
[2014/01/25 17:16:55] Tor Karlsvalt: aye
[2014/01/25 17:16:55] Rosie Gray: aye
[2014/01/25 17:16:56] Second Life: Aliasi Stonebender is offline.
[2014/01/25 17:17:08] Rosie Gray: clap clap clap
[2014/01/25 17:17:12] Rosie Gray: yay
[2014/01/25 17:17:12] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: ☆Applause☆
[2014/01/25 17:17:16] Shep (shep.titian): Well done Bags it's passed )
[2014/01/25 17:17:25] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: thank you Bagheera for all your hard work
[2014/01/25 17:17:27] Bagheera Kristan: thank you so very much !
[2014/01/25 17:17:37] Second Life: Aliasi Stonebender is online.
[2014/01/25 17:17:48] Shep (shep.titian): Ok next meeting please
[2014/01/25 17:17:48] Second Life: Molly Medier is online.
[2014/01/25 17:18:09] Rosie Gray: what about the rest of the Agenda?
[2014/01/25 17:18:21] Callipygian Christensen: /me raises her hand
[2014/01/25 17:18:23] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: I move we set a tentative time of tuesday at 3 and ask Gwyn and change it if that doesnt workf or her.
[2014/01/25 17:18:26] Tor Karlsvalt: /me looks at his watch.
[2014/01/25 17:18:35] Shep (shep.titian): There's no reports
[2014/01/25 17:18:40] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me smells chinese food cooking
[2014/01/25 17:18:41] Shep (shep.titian): Calli?
[2014/01/25 17:18:44] Second Life: Vic Mornington (victor1st.mornington) is offline.
[2014/01/25 17:19:02] Rosie Gray: okay, then thta's good to know for the Minutes
[2014/01/25 17:19:11] Callipygian Christensen: Thank you..for those who are looking for financial statements on a monthly basis - http://portal.slcds.info/index.php/cds-treasurer/
[2014/01/25 17:19:13] Shep (shep.titian): 2hours 20 mins is enough lol
[2014/01/25 17:19:18] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: ty
[2014/01/25 17:19:31] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: did anyone second my motion
[2014/01/25 17:19:36] CLEOPATRA Xigalia:
[2014/01/25 17:19:49] Callipygian Christensen: Maybe bookmark it thistime Cleo, and anyone else who keeps forgetting where they are. done.
[2014/01/25 17:19:50] Rosie Gray: what date are you talking about?
[2014/01/25 17:19:55] Shep (shep.titian): Which one?
[2014/01/25 17:20:08] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: next tuesday please
[2014/01/25 17:20:11] Rosie Gray: Cleo's motion... didn't include a date
[2014/01/25 17:20:16] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: weekly meetings
[2014/01/25 17:20:24] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: we agreed weekly so that is next tuesday
[2014/01/25 17:20:43] Shep (shep.titian): No not next Tuesday
[2014/01/25 17:20:44] Tor Karlsvalt: grrr, weekly, really?
[2014/01/25 17:20:50] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: yes we did tor
[2014/01/25 17:20:50] Rosie Gray: are you referring to Tuesday Jan 28th?
[2014/01/25 17:20:56] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: yes ..
[2014/01/25 17:21:11] Rosie Gray: I can't meet then
[2014/01/25 17:21:33] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: ok thursday
[2014/01/25 17:21:46] Rosie Gray: sorry, can't meet then either at 3
[2014/01/25 17:21:47] Tor Karlsvalt: What times are we suggesting?
[2014/01/25 17:21:49] Shep (shep.titian): 'we' did'nt agree .. you wanted it and did'nt listen .. I do not want a weekly meeting .. it is'nt needed
[2014/01/25 17:21:49] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: you canjust read the forums then i guess rosie
[2014/01/25 17:22:01] Rosie Gray: I agree with Shep
[2014/01/25 17:22:10] Tor Karlsvalt: I agree too.
[2014/01/25 17:22:24] Rosie Gray: you said you wanted a weekly meeting, we didn't actually have a vote or even a discussion about it
[2014/01/25 17:23:14] Tor Karlsvalt: I think we should meet in two weeks.
[2014/01/25 17:23:15] Shep (shep.titian): Two weeks is twice the amount we are copmpelled to do
[2014/01/25 17:23:27] Rosie Gray: two weeks would be just fine with me
[2014/01/25 17:23:44] Tor Karlsvalt: /me says someone who has been at every meeting.
[2014/01/25 17:23:44] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: we didnt get through todays agenda
[2014/01/25 17:24:04] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: so how can you say its often enough
[2014/01/25 17:24:25] Shep (shep.titian): Plus you will find that the time it takes to get things done .. catch people available etc .. its fine twice a month
[2014/01/25 17:24:30] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: basicall y Saturday this time of day is bad for both Gwyn and me. obviously
[2014/01/25 17:24:47] Rosie Gray: Gwyn has said there is no good time for her
[2014/01/25 17:25:02] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: if twice a month was fine we would have gotten through the agenda
[2014/01/25 17:25:09] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: Tuesdays at evening time ..
[2014/01/25 17:25:11] Shep (shep.titian): We did
[2014/01/25 17:25:29] Shep (shep.titian): There are no reports
[2014/01/25 17:25:46] Tor Karlsvalt: Evenings might be good. It is hard for me to know.
[2014/01/25 17:25:57] Rosie Gray: it's hard for me to know evenings as well
[2014/01/25 17:26:14] Rosie Gray: especially when evenings start at 3 in the afternoon
[2014/01/25 17:26:16] Tor Karlsvalt: Sometimes I can be home at 6slt sometimes 9slt.
[2014/01/25 17:26:51] Shep (shep.titian): I'll try to fit in .. but it's 1,26 am here atm
[2014/01/25 17:26:51] Second Life: Aliasi Stonebender is offline.
[2014/01/25 17:26:52] Rosie Gray: what about mornings? are there any mornings SLT that would work?
[2014/01/25 17:26:54] Tor Karlsvalt: I realize I don't have to be at every meeting. So I will be flexible.
[2014/01/25 17:26:55] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: I move the LRA speak with ALL RA members this week and find a mutually agreeable time TBD
[2014/01/25 17:27:07] Tor Karlsvalt: I can be up early. Some know I usually am.
[2014/01/25 17:27:28] Tor Karlsvalt: Sort of depends if I have to open the office or not.
[2014/01/25 17:27:58] Shep (shep.titian): You cannot make a motion out of me
[2014/01/25 17:28:08] Tor Karlsvalt: Those of us with jobs and long commutes have difficulty. But I will be here if I can.
[2014/01/25 17:28:12] Rosie Gray: how about we use Doodle to determine a good time?
[2014/01/25 17:28:44] Rosie Gray: (Doodle is an online scheduling program for people to agree on meeting times)
[2014/01/25 17:28:52] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: hows this, shep will you get in touch with everyone asap and give us a time when its good for everyone
[2014/01/25 17:28:59] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: please madame LRA
[2014/01/25 17:29:02] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: maam
[2014/01/25 17:29:09] Tor Karlsvalt: That works for me.
[2014/01/25 17:29:10] Shep (shep.titian):
[2014/01/25 17:29:12] Rosie Gray: how can she do that Cleo?
[2014/01/25 17:29:23] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: which part
[2014/01/25 17:29:28] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: talking to us all
[2014/01/25 17:29:36] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: or seeing what works
[2014/01/25 17:29:39] Rosie Gray: go back and forth between everyone seperatly
[2014/01/25 17:29:40] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: shes smart enough
[2014/01/25 17:29:43] Rosie Gray: it's a nightmare
[2014/01/25 17:29:52] Shep (shep.titian): Its a bit of a conundrum
[2014/01/25 17:30:15] Tor Karlsvalt: How about we just pick a soft date?
[2014/01/25 17:30:25] Rosie Gray: fgs why don't we use the Doodle?
[2014/01/25 17:30:31] Rosie Gray: it's simple and effective and free
[2014/01/25 17:30:32] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: before they had doodle people had meetings and found agreeable times to everyone
[2014/01/25 17:30:34] Shep (shep.titian): ]I've no doubt I can get 5 times .. but getting them joined up is the trick
[2014/01/25 17:30:35] Tor Karlsvalt: Doodle is ok
[2014/01/25 17:30:46] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: first you find the time of the most restrictive
[2014/01/25 17:30:49] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: and then ask
[2014/01/25 17:31:04] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: ok i need to go soon. very soon
[2014/01/25 17:31:05] Delia Lake: /me softly whistles toodlie doodlie doodle...http://doodle.com/?locale=en
[2014/01/25 17:31:14] Tor Karlsvalt: haha
[2014/01/25 17:31:15] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: weekends are not good for me ever.
[2014/01/25 17:31:18] Rosie Gray: ㋡
[2014/01/25 17:31:22] Soro (soro.dagostino):
[2014/01/25 17:31:26] Shep (shep.titian): hehehehehehehehe
[2014/01/25 17:31:32] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me moves we doodle
[2014/01/25 17:31:45] Shep (shep.titian): Rosie want to Doodle it?
[2014/01/25 17:31:52] Rosie Gray: yes I'll do it if you want
[2014/01/25 17:31:59] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me gets out her crayons and a piece of paper
[2014/01/25 17:32:03] Tor Karlsvalt: I motion we all put our available times on Doodle for the LRA to determine an optimum time for the next meeting in approximately two weeks time.
[2014/01/25 17:32:04] Shep (shep.titian): SEcond if needed
[2014/01/25 17:32:07] Rosie Gray: I'll need Cleo's email address
[2014/01/25 17:32:17] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: [email protected]
[2014/01/25 17:32:20] Rosie Gray: thank you
[2014/01/25 17:32:23] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: yw
[2014/01/25 17:32:33] Shep (shep.titian): I prefer afternoon SLT time
[2014/01/25 17:32:37] Rosie Gray: okay, whew
[2014/01/25 17:32:43] Rosie Gray: /me wipes brow
[2014/01/25 17:32:51] Second Life: Colt Shostakovich (coltrane.shostakovich) is online.
[2014/01/25 17:33:03] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me looks up from her doodle of a picture of rosie
[2014/01/25 17:33:30] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: can i move we adjourn
[2014/01/25 17:33:34] Rosie Gray: please
[2014/01/25 17:33:38] Tor Karlsvalt: second
[2014/01/25 17:33:51] Shep (shep.titian): Vote
[2014/01/25 17:33:54] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: aye
[2014/01/25 17:33:54] Rosie Gray: aye
[2014/01/25 17:33:55] Shep (shep.titian): aye
[2014/01/25 17:34:02] Tor Karlsvalt: aye