RA Transcript Meeting February 15, 2014

Rosie Gray · Post by **Rosie Gray** » Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:56 pm

[2014/02/15 09:59:57] Rosie Gray: hello Andromeda
[2014/02/15 10:01:05] Vic Mornington: entered chat range (19.01 m).
[2014/02/15 10:01:16] Rosie Gray: hi Vic
[2014/02/15 10:01:43] Andromeda Mesmer: hello Rosie.
[2014/02/15 10:01:47] Rosie Gray: hmmm.... if we don't get some more RA members it doesn't look like we'll have a meeting
[2014/02/15 10:01:56] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: nods at rosie
[2014/02/15 10:03:12] Soro (soro.dagostino): Hello again all, offline checking on Shep.
[2014/02/15 10:03:16] Bagheera Kristan: entered chat range (17.65 m).
[2014/02/15 10:03:22] Bagheera Kristan: left chat range.
[2014/02/15 10:03:25] Soro (soro.dagostino): No connection.
[2014/02/15 10:03:34] Second Life: SDolphin is offline.
[2014/02/15 10:03:53] Bagheera Kristan: entered chat range (19.43 m).
[2014/02/15 10:04:03] Ceasar Xigalia: Hi Bagheera
[2014/02/15 10:04:06] Ceasar Xigalia: welcome
[2014/02/15 10:04:19] Bagheera Kristan: Hello *waves*
[2014/02/15 10:04:30] Rosie Gray: hello Bagheera
[2014/02/15 10:05:05] Bagheera Kristan: Hello Ceasar, hello Rosie
[2014/02/15 10:05:30] Rosie Gray: it's not looking good for other RA members attending
[2014/02/15 10:05:52] Second Life: Pat (patroklus.murakami) is online.
[2014/02/15 10:06:04] Spider22997 Upshaw: entered chat range (18.10 m).
[2014/02/15 10:06:05] Rosie Gray: maybe we wait another 5 minutes, and if none of them appear, we could have citizens concerns... of course nothing can be voted on
[2014/02/15 10:06:17] Pat: entered chat range (13.47 m).
[2014/02/15 10:06:19] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: ok give it five
[2014/02/15 10:06:21] Rosie Gray: hi Pat
[2014/02/15 10:06:39] Pat (patroklus.murakami): hi all
[2014/02/15 10:06:42] Rosie Gray: hello Spider ㋡
[2014/02/15 10:06:54] Spider22997 Upshaw: hey Rosie
[2014/02/15 10:06:59] Spider22997 Upshaw: hello everyone
[2014/02/15 10:07:01] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: hello Spider
[2014/02/15 10:07:07] Andromeda Mesmer: Weather is still bad in many parts of the benighted states - might be causing problems.
[2014/02/15 10:07:17] Rosie Gray: aah, good point Andromeda
[2014/02/15 10:07:40] Andromeda Mesmer: Widget Whiteberry has had problems with her regular meetings.
[2014/02/15 10:07:59] Rosie Gray: /me nods
[2014/02/15 10:08:21] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: keep them in our prayers
[2014/02/15 10:10:33] Rosie Gray: well... how about we have any citizens concerns... anyone have something they'd like to talk about?
[2014/02/15 10:10:47] Bagheera Kristan: raises hand
[2014/02/15 10:11:06] Rosie Gray: yes Bagheera?
[2014/02/15 10:11:16] Bagheera Kristan: Thank you, Rosie
[2014/02/15 10:11:35] Second Life: Kate Miranda is online.
[2014/02/15 10:11:53] Bagheera Kristan: Some of you know that I have been seriously considering giving up my position as Chancellor mid-term... however, as of this morning, I have decided to stay
[2014/02/15 10:12:11] Bagheera Kristan: Once upon a time, I was given a horse that had been abused because no one else could have him. When I started, I didn’t realize how badly he had been abused and our first ride ended with me coming off and sliding across my back under a horse trailer. As I rolled over to watch the hind of the horse gallop back to his stall, I thought to myself “ah, that’s okay, I never have to ride that horse again” and then I realized he was mine.
[2014/02/15 10:12:11] Rosie Gray: excellent news
[2014/02/15 10:12:12] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: ☆Applause☆
[2014/02/15 10:12:16] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: yay !
[2014/02/15 10:12:28] Second Life: Tor Karlsvalt is online.
[2014/02/15 10:12:33] Ceasar Xigalia: excellent
[2014/02/15 10:12:34] Bagheera Kristan: so I know I am probably in over my head, but I am going to do the best I can here
[2014/02/15 10:12:35] Ludo Merit: entered chat range (2.07 m).
[2014/02/15 10:12:51] Rosie Gray: ㋡
[2014/02/15 10:12:53] Rosie Gray: hi Ludo
[2014/02/15 10:13:05] Ludo Merit: Hi Rosie, everyone
[2014/02/15 10:13:22] Rosie Gray: oh there Tor has logged on
[2014/02/15 10:13:30] Bagheera Kristan: with everyone's help, I think we will get through this thank you, I'm done
[2014/02/15 10:13:34] Tor Karlsvalt: entered chat range (16.49 m).
[2014/02/15 10:13:45] Ceasar Xigalia: well done Bagheera
[2014/02/15 10:13:47] Rosie Gray: thanks Bagheera
[2014/02/15 10:13:54] Rosie Gray: hi Tor
[2014/02/15 10:13:54] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: everyone's help
[2014/02/15 10:14:04] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: hello Tor !
[2014/02/15 10:14:05] Ceasar Xigalia: I'm happy to help anytime Bagheera
[2014/02/15 10:14:11] Tor Karlsvalt: Hi Cleo
[2014/02/15 10:14:15] Tor Karlsvalt: Hi Rosie
[2014/02/15 10:14:18] Rosie Gray: we were just having some citizen's comments while waiting to see if any more RA could show up
[2014/02/15 10:14:20] Tor Karlsvalt: Hi everyone
[2014/02/15 10:14:52] Tor Karlsvalt: Oh and I have to go early as a friend in RL needs me to drive her to a nursing home.
[2014/02/15 10:15:06] Rosie Gray: what time do you have to leave Tor?
[2014/02/15 10:15:19] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me passes tor a hall pass
[2014/02/15 10:15:28] Tor Karlsvalt: I can stay until a bit after 11SLT
[2014/02/15 10:15:44] Rosie Gray: maybe we can get something done by then
[2014/02/15 10:15:45] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me move that rosie conduct the meeting in sheps absence
[2014/02/15 10:15:53] Tor Karlsvalt: second
[2014/02/15 10:15:58] Rosie Gray: oh jeez, okay
[2014/02/15 10:16:10] Rosie Gray: has everyone got the Agenda?
[2014/02/15 10:16:15] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: yes
[2014/02/15 10:16:27] Rosie Gray: okay I have to find it too
[2014/02/15 10:16:28] Rosie Gray: lol
[2014/02/15 10:16:30] Tor Karlsvalt: yes
[2014/02/15 10:16:30] Rosie Gray: one sec
[2014/02/15 10:16:49] Rosie Gray: thanks Ceasar
[2014/02/15 10:16:52] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: first is minutes approval
[2014/02/15 10:17:03] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: admin
[2014/02/15 10:17:04] Rosie Gray: first is Agenda approval
[2014/02/15 10:17:17] Rosie Gray: do we have a motion to accept the Agenda?
[2014/02/15 10:17:33] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me moves we approve the agenda
[2014/02/15 10:17:37] Tor Karlsvalt: second
[2014/02/15 10:17:41] Rosie Gray: vote
[2014/02/15 10:17:42] Rosie Gray: aye
[2014/02/15 10:17:48] Tor Karlsvalt: aye
[2014/02/15 10:17:48] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: aye
[2014/02/15 10:18:21] Rosie Gray: great, next review the Minutes of the previous meeting
[2014/02/15 10:18:29] Rosie Gray: http://forums.slcds.info/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4295
[2014/02/15 10:18:33] Rosie Gray: link to the Minutes
[2014/02/15 10:18:59] Rosie Gray: do we have a motion to accept the previous Minutes as presented?
[2014/02/15 10:19:14] Tor Karlsvalt: I move that we accept the minutes as written.
[2014/02/15 10:19:35] Rosie Gray: Cleo?
[2014/02/15 10:19:51] Rosie Gray: okay I'll second
[2014/02/15 10:19:55] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: aye
[2014/02/15 10:19:56] Lam Erin: entered chat range (19.20 m).
[2014/02/15 10:19:57] Rosie Gray: vote
[2014/02/15 10:19:58] Tor Karlsvalt: aye
[2014/02/15 10:19:58] Rosie Gray: aye
[2014/02/15 10:20:09] Rosie Gray: thank you
[2014/02/15 10:20:09] Second Life: claudia222 (claudia222.jewell) is offline.
[2014/02/15 10:20:22] Second Life: Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker) is online.
[2014/02/15 10:20:29] Rosie Gray: Who will speak to today's agenda items?
[2014/02/15 10:20:56] Rosie Gray: anyone?
[2014/02/15 10:20:57] Pat (patroklus.murakami): i'd like to speak on byelections
[2014/02/15 10:21:01] Rosie Gray: thank you Pat
[2014/02/15 10:21:07] Rosie Gray: anyone else?
[2014/02/15 10:21:18] Callipygian Christensen: /me riases hand
[2014/02/15 10:21:22] Rosie Gray: yes Calli?
[2014/02/15 10:21:30] Soro (soro.dagostino): /me raises hand
[2014/02/15 10:21:41] Callipygian Christensen: Probably mmultiple subjects
[2014/02/15 10:21:50] Bagheera Kristan: raises hand
[2014/02/15 10:21:51] Rosie Gray: okay... and yes Soro?
[2014/02/15 10:21:51] Soro (soro.dagostino): Same
[2014/02/15 10:21:51] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me raises hand
[2014/02/15 10:22:00] Rosie Gray: okay... Bags?
[2014/02/15 10:22:20] Ludo Merit: /me raises hand
[2014/02/15 10:22:24] Bagheera Kristan: well, it wasn't exactly what I had said to Shep, she had her own concerns o add.. but I think part of Estate Managers is something I had
[2014/02/15 10:22:38] Rosie Gray: okay
[2014/02/15 10:22:41] Rosie Gray: Cleo?
[2014/02/15 10:22:57] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: what is the question ?
[2014/02/15 10:23:09] Lam Erin: /me raises hand
[2014/02/15 10:23:20] Rosie Gray: oh you raised your hand.. thought you wanted to say something about speaking to a topic
[2014/02/15 10:23:46] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me takes down her hand, sorry
[2014/02/15 10:23:55] Rosie Gray: okay... Lam?
[2014/02/15 10:24:28] Lam Erin: I am for the grievance committeee and any other matter arising
[2014/02/15 10:24:42] Rosie Gray: thank you
[2014/02/15 10:24:58] Rosie Gray: okay then... Citizen's Concerns
[2014/02/15 10:25:17] Gaius Tiberius Curio: entered chat range (19.81 m).
[2014/02/15 10:25:17] Rosie Gray: anyone in the audience have a concern to speak to?
[2014/02/15 10:25:25] Pat (patroklus.murakami): /me raises hand
[2014/02/15 10:25:30] Rosie Gray: yes Pat
[2014/02/15 10:26:18] Second Life: Now playing: Various Artists - Pride And Prejudice: A Postcard To Henry Purcell - Pride And Prejudice (Original Soundtrack) - Dario Marianelli
[2014/02/15 10:26:31] Pat (patroklus.murakami): i toured LA today. i understand the remodel is a work in progress but it looks pretty bad. we need our chancellor to work with expert builders not alienate tehm. as seems to be the current policy
[2014/02/15 10:26:51] Rosie Gray: are you done Pat?
[2014/02/15 10:26:55] Pat (patroklus.murakami): done
[2014/02/15 10:27:02] JerryDon Lane: entered chat range (0.78 m).
[2014/02/15 10:27:04] Lam Erin: me raises hand6
[2014/02/15 10:27:09] Rosie Gray: yes Lam
[2014/02/15 10:27:35] Lam Erin: can you ellaborate further Pat? Who are the experts and who alliebnates them and how?
[2014/02/15 10:27:57] Second Life: Now playing: The Poseidon Adventure Track List - -
[2014/02/15 10:28:06] Pat (patroklus.murakami): yes lam.
[2014/02/15 10:29:02] Second Life: Now playing: City of Prague Philharmonic / Nic Raine - Heavy Metal - Taarna's Theme - The Essential Elmer Bernstein Film Music Collection -
[2014/02/15 10:29:07] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me raises hand
[2014/02/15 10:29:08] Pat (patroklus.murakami): so far, teh guild has been alienated from working on LA. Vic, one of our expert builders, has complained about his work being rejected. and yet the acutal build looks amateurish and with elements that are completely out of place
[2014/02/15 10:29:41] Pat (patroklus.murakami): done
[2014/02/15 10:29:43] Lam Erin: who is responsible in your opinion Pat and why?
[2014/02/15 10:29:53] Tor Karlsvalt: test
[2014/02/15 10:30:21] Lam Erin: by the half of CN look amateurish but I see no complaints
[2014/02/15 10:30:48] Bagheera Kristan: raises hand
[2014/02/15 10:30:50] Pat (patroklus.murakami): lam. the chancelllor appears to have taken sole charge of this project. so i lay the blame partly at her her door. there have been others stirring the pot too
[2014/02/15 10:31:22] Lam Erin: any counter proposals about how it can be resolved?
[2014/02/15 10:31:28] Ludo Merit: Point of order
[2014/02/15 10:31:41] Rosie Gray: perhaps we could table this discussion for the moment
[2014/02/15 10:31:52] Pat (patroklus.murakami): /me raise hand. will wait to speak when called
[2014/02/15 10:31:59] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me raises hand
[2014/02/15 10:31:59] Lam Erin: because critique is always easy in cds
[2014/02/15 10:32:13] Lam Erin: done
[2014/02/15 10:32:16] Rosie Gray: Ludo, what is your Point of Order?
[2014/02/15 10:32:35] Ludo Merit: What you just said. THe item is on the agenda so why not discuss it there.
[2014/02/15 10:32:41] Rosie Gray: thank you
[2014/02/15 10:32:45] Rosie Gray: Cleo?
[2014/02/15 10:32:49] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: done
[2014/02/15 10:32:58] Rosie Gray: lol, okay
[2014/02/15 10:33:00] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: per ludos point of order
[2014/02/15 10:33:07] Rosie Gray: any other citizen's concerns?
[2014/02/15 10:33:15] Rosie Gray: different topic... ㋡
[2014/02/15 10:33:35] Rosie Gray: no?
[2014/02/15 10:33:41] Rosie Gray: okay, moving on then
[2014/02/15 10:33:44] Rosie Gray: Old Business
[2014/02/15 10:33:54] Rosie Gray: Chancellor and Guild working together on LA plan
[2014/02/15 10:34:02] Rosie Gray: Bagheera, would you like to speak to this?
[2014/02/15 10:34:25] Bagheera Kristan: lol, if I must, yes... lol
[2014/02/15 10:35:10] Bagheera Kristan: so, apparently when I presented a notecard outlining the work I saw needing to be done to finish LA, the Guild voted that they couldn't endorse it and have chosen to not work with the Chancellor by unanimous vote
[2014/02/15 10:35:51] Bagheera Kristan: however individual Guild members are free to contact me to work with me
[2014/02/15 10:35:57] Second Life: Now playing: Richard Harvey - More Equal Than Others - Animal Farm - Richard Harvey
[2014/02/15 10:36:01] Bagheera Kristan: and a number of them have, as well as other builders in CDS
[2014/02/15 10:36:21] Bagheera Kristan: so, although the Guild has withdrawn from this project, LA can still proceed, I believe
[2014/02/15 10:36:28] Second Life: The Doctor (doctor.copperfield) is offline.
[2014/02/15 10:36:37] Bagheera Kristan: done. thank you
[2014/02/15 10:36:41] Bagheera Kristan: oh wait
[2014/02/15 10:36:42] Bagheera Kristan: sorry
[2014/02/15 10:37:06] Bagheera Kristan: to address Pat's concern.. I realize one thing I haven't done well at all is communicate on progress
[2014/02/15 10:37:24] Bagheera Kristan: so, I will post in the forums upcoming things.. what is going on, so people are not in the dark... for example
[2014/02/15 10:37:36] Bagheera Kristan: this weekend, Sudane will be terraforming, as she is much bettr at it than me
[2014/02/15 10:37:51] Bagheera Kristan: now I am done, thank you
[2014/02/15 10:37:59] Rosie Gray: thank you
[2014/02/15 10:38:14] Ceasar Xigalia: /me claps
[2014/02/15 10:38:17] Rosie Gray: any further comments from anyone?
[2014/02/15 10:38:21] Pat (patroklus.murakami): /me raises hand
[2014/02/15 10:38:26] Tor Karlsvalt: /me raises hand
[2014/02/15 10:39:05] Rosie Gray: Pat, then Tor
[2014/02/15 10:39:13] Pat (patroklus.murakami): thx rosie.
[2014/02/15 10:40:15] Pat (patroklus.murakami): this project cannot proceed without expert input. and our chancellor is systematically alienating everyone who could do a good job. the Guild won't touch it, vic has had perfeclty good work rejected and what is left is amateurish and out of theme
[2014/02/15 10:40:23] Second Life: Now playing: Catherine Bott - As You Like It - A Poem for Orchestra after Shakespeare (arr - WALTON: Film Music, Vol. 1 - William Walton
[2014/02/15 10:40:27] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me raises hand
[2014/02/15 10:40:56] Pat (patroklus.murakami): why would any builder worth their salt get involved with this mess? i repeat: the chancellor needs to reach out to expert builders and get them onside rather than putting them off
[2014/02/15 10:40:58] Pat (patroklus.murakami): done
[2014/02/15 10:41:00] Lam Erin: /me raises hand
[2014/02/15 10:41:01] Lia V (venra.aries): /me raises hand
[2014/02/15 10:41:12] Rosie Gray: thanks Pat, now Tor
[2014/02/15 10:41:38] Ceasar Xigalia: /me raises hand
[2014/02/15 10:42:11] Rosie Gray: (followed by Cleo, Lam, Lia, Ceasar)
[2014/02/15 10:42:31] Tor Karlsvalt: I have a concern about the plan now that I see it taking from. The harbor/bay area seems disjointed and spit in two sections. I still think we should consider terraforing thearea before the warehouse to link the bay more naturally to the ocean.
[2014/02/15 10:42:50] Tor Karlsvalt: done.
[2014/02/15 10:42:56] Rosie Gray: thanks Tor, Cleo?
[2014/02/15 10:43:00] Second Life: Now playing: Finale - -
[2014/02/15 10:43:08] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: First to Mr. Marku and others..
[2014/02/15 10:43:10] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: "it looks pretty bad" is not relvant as it is a work in progress. and i appreciate Mr. Murak's concern bu t request he be part of the solution, not continue to create more of the same problems.
[2014/02/15 10:43:31] Pat (patroklus.murakami): /me raises hand
[2014/02/15 10:43:33] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: I believe our chancellor did just ask for ANY CDS Citizen to help build by asking her
[2014/02/15 10:44:14] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: I look forward to seeing lots of different people working together to build a wonderful sim We have many talented citizens. done
[2014/02/15 10:44:26] Rosie Gray: thank you Cleo, Lam?
[2014/02/15 10:44:29] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): /me raises hand.
[2014/02/15 10:44:30] Lam Erin: ok
[2014/02/15 10:45:03] Lam Erin: My comment is that the LA is a collaborative community project
[2014/02/15 10:45:27] Lam Erin: collaborative projects require cooperation and coordination
[2014/02/15 10:45:38] Lam Erin: between those involved
[2014/02/15 10:46:07] Lam Erin: part of this process includes making comments, suggestions for amendmentsand modifications etc
[2014/02/15 10:46:31] Lam Erin: and all these issues can be dealt with through constructive dialogue between all.
[2014/02/15 10:46:48] Lam Erin: which unfortunately doesnt happen oftne here.
[2014/02/15 10:46:51] Second Life: Now playing: BBC Philharmonic, Conducted By Rumon Gamba - /CD01 TK 11 Christopher Gunning Five Little Pigs - The Film & Television Music of Christopher Gunning (CHAN 10625W) - Christopher Gunning
[2014/02/15 10:46:59] Lam Erin: hiring professionals or exerts to do the wrk is a solution
[2014/02/15 10:46:59] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me raises hand
[2014/02/15 10:47:03] Lam Erin: but
[2014/02/15 10:47:17] Lam Erin: this will kill the sense of community
[2014/02/15 10:47:25] Second Life: The Doctor (doctor.copperfield) is online.
[2014/02/15 10:47:33] Lam Erin: part of which includes having citizens vounteering to develop the sims
[2014/02/15 10:47:45] Lam Erin: the builders available in cds are not all of them experts
[2014/02/15 10:47:58] Lam Erin: but have helped to make this community live and vibrant
[2014/02/15 10:48:15] Lam Erin: i believe they should be supported in the project as well
[2014/02/15 10:48:20] Lam Erin: done.
[2014/02/15 10:48:27] Rosie Gray: thank you Lam, Lia?
[2014/02/15 10:49:20] Lia V (venra.aries): What amazes me is everyone keep ssaying this is a community project, it was less than a handfull of the "community" which voiced their dislike of the brige to Bags, and bags herself didnt like it, so Vic bridge was pulled.
[2014/02/15 10:49:30] Second Life: alial Allen is offline.
[2014/02/15 10:49:35] Lia V (venra.aries): There is also no sign of the tuscan port power that vic made being used...
[2014/02/15 10:50:01] Lia V (venra.aries): I lived in Porto Santo Stefano and florence for a year and a half, what is down there in LA is not tuscan, its nowehere hear it, its more like a spanish port town than a tuscan one
[2014/02/15 10:50:06] Second Life: alial Allen is online.
[2014/02/15 10:50:11] Lia V (venra.aries): done
[2014/02/15 10:50:18] Second Life: Now playing: David Hirschfelder & The Bogo Pogo Orchestra - The Blue Danube - Strictly Ballroom - Johann Strauss
[2014/02/15 10:50:21] Rosie Gray: thank you Lia
[2014/02/15 10:50:23] Rosie Gray: Ceasar?
[2014/02/15 10:50:49] Ceasar Xigalia: With regard to Pats statement I think its obvious that the Chancellor has just reached out to all the builders in CDS including the experts and she has laid out a plan for communication, personally I support the Chancellor.
[2014/02/15 10:51:04] Ceasar Xigalia: done
[2014/02/15 10:51:12] Rosie Gray: okay, Pat
[2014/02/15 10:51:21] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): /me coughs.
[2014/02/15 10:51:30] Rosie Gray: you are after Pat, Gaius
[2014/02/15 10:51:35] Pat (patroklus.murakami): let me be specific. the texturing of the quay is very poor as the textures do not line up and are done to different scales. the stone bridge by the water does not match anything near it. there are houseboats and junks that don't fit the theme. it's a hot mess. we risk the remodel making this sim look worse!
[2014/02/15 10:51:46] Pat (patroklus.murakami): vic spend four hours building a perfectly good bridge only to have it rejected.

under these circumstances why would anyone volunteer to help?
[2014/02/15 10:51:56] Pat (patroklus.murakami): we need more clarity on which projects are needed to be completed and less micromanagement of each build. and the chancellor needs to bring the guild - our expert builders - back on side
[2014/02/15 10:51:59] Pat (patroklus.murakami): done
[2014/02/15 10:52:14] Rosie Gray: Gaius?
[2014/02/15 10:52:18] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Thank you Rosie
[2014/02/15 10:52:19] Ceasar Xigalia: /me volunteers
[2014/02/15 10:52:19] Ludo Merit: /me raises hand
[2014/02/15 10:52:38] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): I am sure that most of you are aware of my absence, so I have a question for the Chancellor
[2014/02/15 10:52:55] Second Life: The Doctor (doctor.copperfield) is offline.
[2014/02/15 10:53:09] Vic Mornington (victor1st.mornington): /me raises hand
[2014/02/15 10:53:18] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Why hasn't the Guild, the organ traditionally meant to handle public builds such as these, been playing a role in the building of LA?
[2014/02/15 10:53:47] Bagheera Kristan: you are asking me, Gaius?
[2014/02/15 10:53:58] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Why hasn't the Executive been cooperatng with the Guild, if this is such a cooperative project?
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[2014/02/15 10:54:06] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Yes, I am
[2014/02/15 10:54:47] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Done, btw.
[2014/02/15 10:55:03] Rosie Gray: thank you Gaius... Bagheera do you want to reply?
[2014/02/15 10:55:21] Bagheera Kristan: well, I do....
[2014/02/15 10:55:40] Second Life: Now playing: John William - Give Me The Simple Life / A Certain Smile - The Poseidon Adventure -
[2014/02/15 10:55:58] Rosie Gray: (then Cleo, Ludo, Vic, and then I think we need to move on)
[2014/02/15 10:57:08] Bagheera Kristan: Gaius, I never refused the Guild's assistance.. the Guild chose - and it was a surprise to me - to not work with me. that explains part of the delay and chaos because the objects I put out were "placeholders" for what I saw the Guild replacing and I needed some time to regroup and replan how to move forward with the project
[2014/02/15 10:57:10] Bagheera Kristan: done
[2014/02/15 10:57:28] Rosie Gray: okay, Cleo?
[2014/02/15 10:57:39] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Thank you, Bagheera ㋡
[2014/02/15 10:58:10] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: I look forward to any suggestions that make the project more collaborative, more cooperative, and make it bring a sense of community to CDS as well as be beautiful to look at.. and look forward to see how our esteemed chancellor does regroup and replan .. i am glad there are many citizens willing to help with the continued progress.
[2014/02/15 10:58:17] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: hopefully we learn from this experience
[2014/02/15 10:58:30] Second Life: Widget Whiteberry is online.
[2014/02/15 10:58:32] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: for the design of the next sim
[2014/02/15 10:58:54] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: and hope that is a project that we undertake soon..
[2014/02/15 10:59:06] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: done
[2014/02/15 10:59:26] Rosie Gray: /me nods: Ludo?
[2014/02/15 10:59:41] Second Life: Attachment has been saved.
[2014/02/15 10:59:44] Tor Karlsvalt: /me raises hand.
[2014/02/15 11:00:12] Second Life: Widget Whiteberry is offline.
[2014/02/15 11:00:28] Ludo Merit: I wanted to say that discussing what the build should be is not the topic. The topic is the chancellor and the guild working together on the project.
[2014/02/15 11:00:41] Ludo Merit: Donhe
[2014/02/15 11:00:47] Rosie Gray: thank you Ludo
[2014/02/15 11:00:49] Rosie Gray: Vic?
[2014/02/15 11:01:17] Second Life: Agnes Sharple is offline.
[2014/02/15 11:01:29] Second Life: Pip Torok is online.
[2014/02/15 11:01:38] Vic Mornington (victor1st.mornington): done (dont have anything to say about the guild topic)
[2014/02/15 11:01:50] Rosie Gray: okay... Tor, because he has to leave
[2014/02/15 11:01:56] Tor Karlsvalt: thanks
[2014/02/15 11:02:58] Second Life: Now playing: On Radio Riel - The ZBS Radio Hour ~ Intro - ID/PSA -
[2014/02/15 11:03:11] Pip Torok: entered chat range (19.27 m).
[2014/02/15 11:03:18] Tor Karlsvalt: I just ask that in the spirit of community cooperation that we have Vic's bridge on display. I fear it was rejected at the request of a small group and most of us were unable to form any opinion. Done, I will waid to hear some comments but then must beg your pardon and leave.
[2014/02/15 11:03:20] Tor Karlsvalt: done
[2014/02/15 11:03:33] Second Life: Now playing: ZBS Foundation - Ah Ha Phenomenon, Wk 1 - ZBS Radio Hour 04 -
[2014/02/15 11:03:35] Rosie Gray: thank you Tor
[2014/02/15 11:03:38] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: left chat range.
[2014/02/15 11:03:47] Rosie Gray: any further comments specifically about Tor's request?
[2014/02/15 11:03:51] Bagheera Kristan: yes
[2014/02/15 11:04:01] Pat (patroklus.murakami): hear, hear!
[2014/02/15 11:04:31] Pat (patroklus.murakami): /me supports tor's request
[2014/02/15 11:04:33] Bagheera Kristan: if vic would like to replace the "placeholder" bridge I have out now with the one he built, he is welcome to do so.. but not the car, please... as I am trying to keep count on prims..
[2014/02/15 11:04:49] Bagheera Kristan: Vic has the powers, to both remove my bridge and replace his at his leiusure, if he chooses to do so
[2014/02/15 11:05:02] Vic Mornington (victor1st.mornington): i'll do it after the meeting is over
[2014/02/15 11:05:04] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: entered chat range (6.75 m).
[2014/02/15 11:05:09] Rosie Gray: okay thank you
[2014/02/15 11:05:32] Tor Karlsvalt: /me bows and thanks eveyone and must poof.
[2014/02/15 11:05:42] Second Life: Tor Karlsvalt is offline.
[2014/02/15 11:05:43] Tor Karlsvalt: left chat range.
[2014/02/15 11:05:47] Second Life: Malakyte Thorne is online.
[2014/02/15 11:05:47] Rosie Gray: we can continue with the next item, but no vote is possible
[2014/02/15 11:06:02] Lam Erin: /me raises hand
[2014/02/15 11:06:04] Rosie Gray: however it might be useful to have some discussion
[2014/02/15 11:06:15] Rosie Gray: Regarding by-elections
[2014/02/15 11:06:25] Callipygian Christensen: /me raises her hand
[2014/02/15 11:06:37] Rosie Gray: Pat would you like to address this, then Calli
[2014/02/15 11:06:48] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: left chat range.
[2014/02/15 11:06:48] Pat (patroklus.murakami): i'd like to hear calli first
[2014/02/15 11:06:49] Rosie Gray: then Lam
[2014/02/15 11:06:54] Rosie Gray: okay... Cali
[2014/02/15 11:07:24] Callipygian Christensen: thank you - beng gone for 2 weeks delayed me posting to the legislative discussion forum with my draft, as I said i would last meeting - I will do so over the weekend.
[2014/02/15 11:07:38] Rosie Gray: /me nods
[2014/02/15 11:08:02] Callipygian Christensen: It still reflects my thoughts in a forum post, referenced at the last meeting and still there for discussion
[2014/02/15 11:08:04] Callipygian Christensen: done
[2014/02/15 11:08:09] Rosie Gray: thanks Calli
[2014/02/15 11:08:11] Rosie Gray: Pat?
[2014/02/15 11:08:55] Pat (patroklus.murakami): k
[2014/02/15 11:09:31] Pat (patroklus.murakami): i think we also need a way to remove irrational, incompetent or absent RA members so a recall method for voters is needed to. done
[2014/02/15 11:09:46] Rosie Gray: good point Pat
[2014/02/15 11:09:51] Rosie Gray: Lam?
[2014/02/15 11:10:35] Ceasar Xigalia: /me raises hand
[2014/02/15 11:10:44] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: entered chat range (2.27 m).
[2014/02/15 11:10:55] Lam Erin: My intervention had to do with the RA meeting. I see that it is now only you present. Is it making sense for this meeting to continue as RA one given that there is no quorum?
[2014/02/15 11:11:18] Rosie Gray: I've already said that we are only discussing, Lam, and that no votes can be taken
[2014/02/15 11:11:25] Lam Erin: Cleo is back I see but still thre is no quorum
[2014/02/15 11:11:38] Lam Erin: does this mean that in the next meeting wee will have to discuss those issues again?
[2014/02/15 11:11:45] Rosie Gray: but it's up to this gathering if everyone thinks it useful to continue discussions
[2014/02/15 11:11:52] Rosie Gray: yes it likely does
[2014/02/15 11:12:18] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: yes no quorum
[2014/02/15 11:12:23] Rosie Gray: perhaps we should take a vote of everyone present, to continue with discussions or not
[2014/02/15 11:12:26] Pat (patroklus.murakami): we can continue to talk. it might get us further along and closer to a solution. so might save time for the next RA meeting
[2014/02/15 11:12:38] Rosie Gray: /me nods: that was my thought too Pat
[2014/02/15 11:12:40] Lam Erin: this is what I thought. So for some of us including me it is better to poof
[2014/02/15 11:12:45] Rosie Gray: but let's take a vote of those present
[2014/02/15 11:13:10] Rosie Gray: all those in favour of continuing to discuss the items on Agenda, please vote aye
[2014/02/15 11:13:16] Pat (patroklus.murakami): aye
[2014/02/15 11:13:19] Callipygian Christensen: It only requires the RA members to read the transcripts, as I am sure they do anyway, and gives them some input from citizens, so aye
[2014/02/15 11:13:24] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: this can be on the forums.
[2014/02/15 11:13:24] JerryDon Lane: aye
[2014/02/15 11:13:29] Spider22997 Upshaw: aye
[2014/02/15 11:13:30] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: also
[2014/02/15 11:13:33] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: aye
[2014/02/15 11:13:42] Rosie Gray: aye
[2014/02/15 11:13:47] Vic Mornington (victor1st.mornington): aye
[2014/02/15 11:13:47] Ceasar Xigalia: aye
[2014/02/15 11:13:55] Bagheera Kristan: aye
[2014/02/15 11:13:56] Rosie Gray: any opposed?
[2014/02/15 11:14:12] Rosie Gray: vote nay if so
[2014/02/15 11:14:30] Ludo Merit: abstain, if you're waiting for me
[2014/02/15 11:14:31] Lam Erin: no, I just have to go myself, so I will present the grievance committee topic in the next RA
[2014/02/15 11:14:45] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: thank you Lam !
[2014/02/15 11:14:48] Lam Erin: as this one cant vote
[2014/02/15 11:14:59] Rosie Gray: okay, the aye's have it
[2014/02/15 11:15:06] Pat (patroklus.murakami): i'm looking fwd to that lam. could you post progress on the forums?
[2014/02/15 11:15:18] Lam Erin: I posted the draft PAT
[2014/02/15 11:15:21] Rosie Gray: the next itme is Sorting out old laws
[2014/02/15 11:15:22] Lam Erin: let me find the link
[2014/02/15 11:15:32] Lam Erin: it was not to be voted today anyway
[2014/02/15 11:15:47] Second Life: Roselys Luminos is offline.
[2014/02/15 11:15:52] Rosie Gray: Cleo do you want to speak to this?
[2014/02/15 11:15:54] Lam Erin: we intended to present the draft to RA for public consultation
[2014/02/15 11:16:07] Lia V: left chat range.
[2014/02/15 11:16:08] Rosie Gray: we'll wait until we get to that item Lam
[2014/02/15 11:16:11] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: ceasar had rasied his hand
[2014/02/15 11:16:20] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: and i do have a comment , yes
[2014/02/15 11:16:30] Rosie Gray: okay, Ceasar? sorry didn't see
[2014/02/15 11:16:42] Ceasar Xigalia: I agree with Pats point about absent RA members but regards competency that is decided by the voters every six months.
[2014/02/15 11:17:00] Ceasar Xigalia: done
[2014/02/15 11:17:07] Rosie Gray: thank you Ceasar
[2014/02/15 11:17:17] Rosie Gray: moving on to item 3
[2014/02/15 11:17:33] CLEOPATRA Xigalia:
[2014/02/15 11:17:42] Rosie Gray: are you going to speak to this Cleo?
[2014/02/15 11:17:52] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: i was yes
[2014/02/15 11:17:57] Rosie Gray: I noticed something on the forum about it
[2014/02/15 11:18:09] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: There has been an RFP posted on the forums. for the work to be done
[2014/02/15 11:18:23] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: Thank you to Delia and Ceasar for working on this project.
[2014/02/15 11:18:51] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: Rose Springvale has volunteered to do the work after the transcripts are all posted for her to use as far as i understand it ..
[2014/02/15 11:19:10] Rosie Gray: who has been speaking with Rose about this, do you know Cleo?
[2014/02/15 11:19:12] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: and so we are glad to hear of that generous offer
[2014/02/15 11:19:22] Callipygian Christensen: /me raises her hand
[2014/02/15 11:19:23] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: No i do not. She posted it on the forums.
[2014/02/15 11:19:28] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: done
[2014/02/15 11:19:32] Rosie Gray: Calli?
[2014/02/15 11:20:13] Callipygian Christensen: thankyou - since RA voted to accept Rose's offer, iirc, the only relevant partsof the RFP for discussion are the scope of work and the outcomes and monitoring..
[2014/02/15 11:20:30] Callipygian Christensen: that should save a lot of discussion time.
[2014/02/15 11:20:34] Callipygian Christensen: Done
[2014/02/15 11:20:36] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: the draft says that
[2014/02/15 11:20:41] Rosie Gray: thank you Calli
[2014/02/15 11:20:46] Rosie Gray: anyone else on this topic?
[2014/02/15 11:21:03] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me raises hand
[2014/02/15 11:21:12] Rosie Gray: Cleo
[2014/02/15 11:21:18] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: We are still left with no archivist , which is a very important position.
[2014/02/15 11:21:38] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: I hope we can elicit more volunteers to do this work that is much needed ..
[2014/02/15 11:21:46] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: any suggestions?
[2014/02/15 11:21:49] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: done
[2014/02/15 11:21:56] Rosie Gray: when you say archivist, what specifically are you referring to Cleo?
[2014/02/15 11:22:12] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: the ongoing position of RA archivist to catalouge ongoing work
[2014/02/15 11:22:18] Rosie Gray: do you mean the posting of transcripts and Minutes?
[2014/02/15 11:22:38] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: and then collating laws as rose will be doing
[2014/02/15 11:22:45] Rosie Gray: hmmmm
[2014/02/15 11:22:54] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: on and ongoing basis
[2014/02/15 11:23:03] Rosie Gray: okay, I see yes
[2014/02/15 11:23:09] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: so we dont get in this situation again
[2014/02/15 11:23:27] Rosie Gray: so you are referring to after the initial work is done that Rose (or whoever) does
[2014/02/15 11:23:41] Rosie Gray: the cataloguing of laws
[2014/02/15 11:23:44] Lam Erin: left chat range.
[2014/02/15 11:23:47] Rosie Gray: is that right?
[2014/02/15 11:23:48] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: yes
[2014/02/15 11:23:54] Rosie Gray: okay
[2014/02/15 11:24:10] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: as well as taking the minutes and transcripts off your plate possibly if we had someone to do it
[2014/02/15 11:24:17] Rosie Gray: /me nods
[2014/02/15 11:24:39] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: not seeing a lot of volunteers
[2014/02/15 11:24:42] CLEOPATRA Xigalia:
[2014/02/15 11:24:50] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: done
[2014/02/15 11:24:55] Rosie Gray: okay, let's move on to new business
[2014/02/15 11:25:17] Rosie Gray: any comments about Cadence's idea of a place for citizen posters?
[2014/02/15 11:25:30] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me raises hand
[2014/02/15 11:25:34] Pip Torok: /me raises hand
[2014/02/15 11:25:37] Rosie Gray: Cleo
[2014/02/15 11:25:39] Ludo Merit: /me has a comment but is saving it
[2014/02/15 11:25:42] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: I posted my sentiments on the forums
[2014/02/15 11:25:47] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: done
[2014/02/15 11:25:52] Rosie Gray: /me nods
[2014/02/15 11:25:55] Rosie Gray: Pip?
[2014/02/15 11:27:07] Pip Torok: atm the forums has 2 fubctuiions ... official comms and unofficial gripes .. hopefully Cadences idea will help to separate those function ... imo we shd give it a chance
[2014/02/15 11:27:10] Pip Torok: done
[2014/02/15 11:27:32] Rosie Gray: thanks Pip... anyone else?
[2014/02/15 11:27:52] Ludo Merit: /me raises hand
[2014/02/15 11:27:58] Rosie Gray: yes Ludo?
[2014/02/15 11:28:35] Second Life: claudia222 (claudia222.jewell) is online.
[2014/02/15 11:30:07] Ludo Merit: As I read Cadence's proposal, she was proposing that a place to put up visual statements of position on issues, complaints if you will, would help defuse the bad feelings that seem to explode on the forums. I don't really know whether her idea will make things better or worse. She proposes a re-evaluation in three months. If we don't forget to do that I approve of trying the idea.
[2014/02/15 11:30:13] Bagheera Kristan: left chat range.
[2014/02/15 11:30:20] Ludo Merit: Done
[2014/02/15 11:30:23] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me raises hand
[2014/02/15 11:30:30] Rosie Gray: thanks Ludo
[2014/02/15 11:30:32] Rosie Gray: yes Cleo?
[2014/02/15 11:30:34] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: My post was called Fix the Forums first, basically if the impetus for the idea is that the forums are not a safe place to express our ideas then lets first fix that venue before we create another place we cannot control.
[2014/02/15 11:31:05] Pip Torok: /me raises hand
[2014/02/15 11:31:09] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: if though a clean doable proposal for th e park is submitted .. then i would consider that .. i see many issues that would make it very difficult to create and maintain
[2014/02/15 11:31:21] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: done
[2014/02/15 11:31:31] Rosie Gray: thank you Cleo,.. Pip?
[2014/02/15 11:32:10] Pip Torok: with respect, imo fixing the forum first is putting the cart be fore the horse done
[2014/02/15 11:32:17] Second Life: Vic Mornington (victor1st.mornington) is offline.
[2014/02/15 11:32:21] Rosie Gray: okay thanks Pip
[2014/02/15 11:32:30] Vic Mornington: left chat range.
[2014/02/15 11:32:31] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: smh
[2014/02/15 11:32:38] Rosie Gray: let's move on to the next topic, if we can
[2014/02/15 11:32:44] Vic Mornington: entered chat range (10.66 m).
[2014/02/15 11:32:45] Second Life: Vic Mornington (victor1st.mornington) is online.
[2014/02/15 11:32:53] Rosie Gray: since we can't vote to approve or not
[2014/02/15 11:33:14] Rosie Gray: I think we need to table the discussion on Estate Managers anyway, since Bags had to leave
[2014/02/15 11:33:29] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: it was actually my item
[2014/02/15 11:33:32] CLEOPATRA Xigalia:
[2014/02/15 11:33:35] Rosie Gray: oh was it?
[2014/02/15 11:33:37] Rosie Gray: sorry
[2014/02/15 11:33:42] Rosie Gray: okay do you want to speak to it?
[2014/02/15 11:33:50] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: i think both maby but i asked shep to put on Land Managers
[2014/02/15 11:34:16] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: this came via the last point, and cadence said that she would have the land managers police the park
[2014/02/15 11:34:26] Rosie Gray: aah
[2014/02/15 11:34:28] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: i for one do not know who currently is a Land Manager or EM , what the powers are
[2014/02/15 11:34:34] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: who assigns this duty power
[2014/02/15 11:34:45] Rosie Gray: you can look it up in the group Cleo
[2014/02/15 11:34:47] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: and if it changes per administration or is delegated by sudane only
[2014/02/15 11:34:48] Rosie Gray: and see who is
[2014/02/15 11:35:06] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: but i dont know exactly what powers, granted by whom and with what authority
[2014/02/15 11:35:24] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: done
[2014/02/15 11:35:31] Second Life: Maya Freiman is online.
[2014/02/15 11:35:57] Rosie Gray: well, the only person who can assign those roles I think are Sudane
[2014/02/15 11:36:04] Rosie Gray: so she would need to speak to that
[2014/02/15 11:36:08] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: For example , Tor is a land manager now because he "used to be a chancellor "
[2014/02/15 11:36:18] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: what law says past chancellors have powers ?
[2014/02/15 11:36:32] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: May we put on the agenda for next time to ask Sudane that question.
[2014/02/15 11:36:37] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: or the SC
[2014/02/15 11:36:49] Callipygian Christensen: It is not an SC issue
[2014/02/15 11:36:55] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: seems odd the treasurer would assign the most powerful duties in CDS
[2014/02/15 11:37:00] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Always a crusade... ㋡
[2014/02/15 11:37:09] Pat (patroklus.murakami): we have an estate manager law. we have other laws. we have a constitution. i suggest that RA members should read them
[2014/02/15 11:37:11] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: and it should go by administration ..
[2014/02/15 11:37:13] Rosie Gray: lol
[2014/02/15 11:37:16] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: curousity sweet Gauius
[2014/02/15 11:37:25] Rosie Gray: she is not jsut the Treasurer though, she is the actual estate owner, which we have to have here in SL
[2014/02/15 11:37:46] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: yes so i understand she is the EO
[2014/02/15 11:37:52] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: soshe physically has to be the one
[2014/02/15 11:37:57] Rosie Gray: good suggestion Pat, but it's hard to find those laws
[2014/02/15 11:38:05] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: but under what CDS law and authority does she decide who ?
[2014/02/15 11:38:10] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: just curious
[2014/02/15 11:38:16] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: to pat
[2014/02/15 11:38:30] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: maybe you can be of help and find it for us ??
[2014/02/15 11:38:50] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: done
[2014/02/15 11:38:59] Pat (patroklus.murakami): maybe you can do your own job and look?
[2014/02/15 11:39:13] Pat (patroklus.murakami): http://portal.slcds.info/index.php/cds- ... e-of-laws/
[2014/02/15 11:39:16] Rosie Gray:
[2014/02/15 11:39:18] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: thank you for the team spirit you are so helpful. I have looked and i couldnt find it
[2014/02/15 11:39:40] Second Life: Penelope Gossamer is online.
[2014/02/15 11:39:43] Rosie Gray: well let's leave it for now
[2014/02/15 11:39:50] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: agreed
[2014/02/15 11:39:59] Rosie Gray: okay, Commission Reports
[2014/02/15 11:40:22] Pat (patroklus.murakami): NL 5-6 Estate Owner Act on the link i just gave you. *not* difficult to find
[2014/02/15 11:40:40] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: thank you so much pat
[2014/02/15 11:40:49] Rosie Gray: although Lam has left, Tor has also told me that he is planning some citizen meetings to discuss the Grievance Committee, and he is concerned that these happen before any Committee is passed into law
[2014/02/15 11:40:50] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: how very kind of you to help i appreciate that
[2014/02/15 11:41:19] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: yes i wonder if tor has had meetings ?
[2014/02/15 11:41:36] Pat (patroklus.murakami): how charming of you to say so. i so appreciate you appreciating that
[2014/02/15 11:41:50] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me blows pat a kiss
[2014/02/15 11:41:59] Rosie Gray: he hasn't been able to I think partially because Lam was away on holidays
[2014/02/15 11:42:07] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me nods
[2014/02/15 11:42:10] Rosie Gray: but anyway, he is planning on having a couple next week
[2014/02/15 11:42:17] Rosie Gray: so that's his message about it
[2014/02/15 11:42:19] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: cool i look forward to that
[2014/02/15 11:42:26] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: excellent
[2014/02/15 11:42:39] Rosie Gray: /me stretches
[2014/02/15 11:42:48] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: any citizen comments about it now ?
[2014/02/15 11:43:54] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): /me yawns.
[2014/02/15 11:43:58] Rosie Gray: no comments
[2014/02/15 11:44:06] Pip Torok: /me that's for the LRA to propose ....
[2014/02/15 11:44:06] Rosie Gray: okay.. I'd like to adjourn
[2014/02/15 11:44:12] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: any more citizen concerns on anything ?
[2014/02/15 11:44:19] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: id like to recommend two things.
[2014/02/15 11:44:31] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: That we do try to meet weekly with shorter meetings..
[2014/02/15 11:44:32] Rosie Gray: what is that Cleo?
[2014/02/15 11:44:37] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: one weekend, one weekday
[2014/02/15 11:44:41] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: alternating
[2014/02/15 11:44:42] Rosie Gray: we can't decide that with only the two of us
[2014/02/15 11:44:50] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: it was a suggestion
[2014/02/15 11:44:57] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: i knwo we cant decide
[2014/02/15 11:45:13] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: to whom it may concern
[2014/02/15 11:45:14] Rosie Gray: and, we did a Doodle where everyone said they could be here now, but still it didn't work out
[2014/02/15 11:45:32] Rosie Gray: so trying for more often might be even more futile!
[2014/02/15 11:45:33] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: i find weekends meeting very difficult
[2014/02/15 11:45:39] Soro (soro.dagostino): Good
[2014/02/15 11:45:42] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: try anyway
[2014/02/15 11:45:44] Rosie Gray: I do as well Cleo
[2014/02/15 11:45:49] Rosie Gray: okay... well next time
[2014/02/15 11:45:59] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: i think we should try for weekly and if its a short meeting hurray
[2014/02/15 11:46:05] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: long ones are no fun for anyone
[2014/02/15 11:46:09] Rosie Gray: indeed
[2014/02/15 11:46:13] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: adjourn
[2014/02/15 11:46:17] Rosie Gray: okay, well let's adjourn
[2014/02/15 11:46:23] Rosie Gray: we can't even vote on that