Transcript of CDS Representative Assembly meeting, October 22, 2016
Representatives present:
Ranma Tardis
Tanoujin Milstone
Hanna Marie Bloodwolf
Leslie Allandale
Em Warden
Guests present:
K.T. Burnett
RG Cooperstone
Delia Lake
Kate Amdahl
Gaius Tiberius Curio
[12:07] Ranma Tardis: We have 5 members present, so I call the RA to order
[12:07] Ranma Tardis: first order of business is the agenda, is there any discussion?
[12:07] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): I read it, no disucssion from me.
[12:08] Tanoujin Milestone: ready to approve
[12:08] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held) too
[12:08] Em Warden (mothercard.warden): Me too
[12:08] Leslie Allandale: ditto
[12:08] Tanoujin Milestone: I move we approve the agenda
[12:08] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): second
[12:08] Em Warden (mothercard.warden): Second
[12:08] Ranma Tardis: please vote
[12:08] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): aye
[12:08] Tanoujin Milestone: aye
[12:08] Leslie Allandale: aye
[12:08] Em Warden (mothercard.warden): Aye
[12:09] Ranma Tardis: motion carried, so we move on to last meetings minutes
[12:09] Ranma Tardis: any discussion?
[12:09] Tanoujin Milestone: i only see a transcript...
[12:09] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): I read those on the forumm, and I'm ready to approve them....I don't see them inworld, tho
[12:09] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): er, wait...I'm thinking of Sept's minutes...I'm not sure about the minutes from Oct 8th; I couldn't find those.
[12:10] Em Warden (mothercard.warden): Nothing contradictional as far as I could see
[12:10] Ranma Tardis: well I posted it and never got around to writing them
[12:10] Ranma Tardis: been not feeling well
[12:10] Tanoujin Milestone: so we have no minutes from last time, do I get that right?
[12:10] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): To be clear; is this the last meeting? http://forums.slcds.info/viewtopic.php? ... 715#p43717
[12:10] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): Transcript, but no minutes
[12:11] Ranma Tardis: transcript only
[12:11] Em Warden (mothercard.warden): We had only the transcripts for a lonng time before
[12:11] Leslie Allandale: I have done minutes of the meetings I have attended
[12:11] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): I move we accept the transcript as posted in leiu of minutes
[12:11] Em Warden (mothercard.warden): Second
[12:11] Leslie Allandale: I can go back and distill those I messed
[12:11] Ranma Tardis: please vote
[12:11] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): aye
[12:11] Tanoujin Milestone: aye
[12:11] Leslie Allandale: aye
[12:11] Em Warden (mothercard.warden): aye
[12:11] Ranma Tardis: aye
[12:12] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): I will try to match up the transcript with the Sept agenda and write it up as a minute type of post
[12:12] Ranma Tardis: motion carries and this is the time for citizens concerns
[12:12] Tanoujin Milestone: thank you han....
[12:12] Ranma Tardis: Thank You, Han
[12:13] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): Ranma's opened up the floor for citizen concerns....are there any?
[12:13] Ranma Tardis: anyone have anything to say? I will take criticism well.
[12:13] K.T. Burnett (kayt): I haven't seen Rosie online in a while, is she alright? 
[12:14] K.T. Burnett (kayt): that's, like, my only concern
[12:14] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): I think she is, I know she was on 3, 4 days ago.
[12:14] Tanoujin Milestone: according to fb she is okay
[12:14] Ranma Tardis: she IM me and said she was busy in rl
[12:14] K.T. Burnett (kayt): Ah, thanks
[12:14] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): wb, Delia; you're in time for Citizen Concerns
[12:14] Delia Lake: I think Rosie is away/out of town in rl
[12:14] Ranma Tardis: yes, it is you chance to address the LRA and RA
[12:15] Ranma Tardis: I know people are unhappy with my shaking of the tree
[12:15] Em Warden (mothercard.warden): Well, you withdrawyour suggestion...
[12:16] Em Warden (mothercard.warden): withdrew
[12:16] RG Cooperstone (roguegeek.cooperstone): I hope we have enough folks step up so we can have an actual election
[12:16] Ranma Tardis: got it legal but the vote would of been 5 nays
[12:16] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): I'm worried about that too, Coop
[12:17] RG Cooperstone (roguegeek.cooperstone): We didn't get the preelection surge this year
[12:18] Ranma Tardis: I may have to run so there will be a full RA but my health prevents me from taking a leadership role
[12:18] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): We'll be in competition, I am interested to see how many votes I'd get if there was more than 5 candidates.
[12:18] RG Cooperstone (roguegeek.cooperstone): and there is the matter of the Chancellor
[12:18] Em Warden (mothercard.warden): Perhaps things are to everyone's pleasing... if citizens were very displeased, we would have more candidates 
[12:18] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): YeSaH! there is, Coop
[12:18] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): Rosie hasn't thrown her hait in the ring.
[12:19] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): heh, good point, Em
[12:19] RG Cooperstone (roguegeek.cooperstone): She can't run again
[12:19] Ranma Tardis: yes we need a candidate, perhaps you RG? smiles
[12:19] RG Cooperstone (roguegeek.cooperstone): No
[12:19] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): Oh. In my official capacity as Pro Tempre let me say: *CENSORED*
[12:19] RG Cooperstone (roguegeek.cooperstone): I have my job.
[12:19] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): I've thrown my hat in to the RA ring, and the best I could do would be a caretaker anyway
[12:20] Ranma Tardis: me as well
[12:20] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): So...what do we do if no one is chancellor?
[12:20] Ranma Tardis: nods
[12:20] Em Warden (mothercard.warden): We have a joint citizens' and RA concerns here...
[12:21] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held) nods to Em
[12:21] Ranma Tardis: yes, am combining them into one
[12:21] RG Cooperstone (roguegeek.cooperstone): I would bet that someone would wander out of the shadows
[12:21] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): They probably would.... cleo II for the fail!
[12:21] RG Cooperstone (roguegeek.cooperstone): But, they'd have to be on that October census
[12:21] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): Good point.
[12:22] Ranma Tardis: lets hope so and I have a tremulous respect for all present
[12:22] Ranma Tardis: I get this short burst of background noise
[12:23] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): Coop, please remind me....when is the deadline to announce one's candidacy?
[12:23] RG Cooperstone (roguegeek.cooperstone): 2 November
[12:23] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): Thanks.
[12:24] Tanoujin Milestone: Do I have to wait for RA member concerns ore are we at it?
[12:24] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): Rosie threw her hat in at the last minute last time, we should figure out what to do if no one runs, but I suspect someone will.
[12:24] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): Ranma is combining them; so go for it, Tan.
[12:24] Ranma Tardis: any citizen ones as well?
[12:24] RG Cooperstone (roguegeek.cooperstone): She can't for Chancellor.
[12:24] RG Cooperstone (roguegeek.cooperstone): Term limits
[12:24] Tanoujin Milestone: the two updates for the portal...
[12:24] RG Cooperstone (roguegeek.cooperstone): ah
[12:24] Tanoujin Milestone: procedures and Government question hour
[12:24] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): sorry, hope htat didn't sound bitchy; typing fast
[12:24] Leslie Allandale: I will back up the Chancellor spot
[12:24] Tanoujin Milestone: last time i looked it was not updated...
[12:25] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): Have we reinstated term limits again?
[12:25] Leslie Allandale: If I can get major help
[12:25] Tanoujin Milestone: is there any chance that gets be done this term?
[12:25] Gaius Tiberius Curio (guillaume.mistwalker): The 16th RA removed term limits.
[12:25] Ranma Tardis: we can have a meeting in 2 weeks
[12:25] RG Cooperstone (roguegeek.cooperstone): it was back on as far as I can tell
[12:25] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): I think we REALLY need to get back to using the speaking stick here, folks. We're talking over one another.
[12:25] Leslie Allandale: I don't think Rosie will run anyway
[12:25] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): rn we have two different discussions going on.
[12:26] Ranma Tardis: right speaking stick now please
[12:26] Delia Lake: I may be incorrect but I thought the term limit lifting was for the RA not the Chancellor
[12:26] Tanoujin Milestone leans back and waits until the candidacy topic is done
[12:26] Leslie Allandale: soz
[12:26] Karlie Golden (karlieredd) is offline.
[12:26] Leslie Allandale: done
[12:26] Ranma Tardis: Tan?
[12:26] RG Cooperstone (roguegeek.cooperstone): other way around
[12:26] Ranma Tardis: you have the floor
[12:27] Tanoujin Milestone: the RA aprocedures and the government question hour law - Han, I have heard you can update it?
[12:27] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): yes, I can -if you don't see it by Friday, please send me a ping.
[12:27] Tanoujin Milestone: on the portal that is
[12:27] Tanoujin Milestone: ok, thats great - done
[12:28] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held):
[12:28] Em Warden (mothercard.warden): Thank you, Han
[12:28] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): if you're done, please click the stick
[12:29] Ranma Tardis: any others? we could have a RA meeting on the 5th of November
[12:29] Ranma Tardis: to our SC members is that legal?
[12:29] Tanoujin Milestone: please rememer to send a group note 24 h beforehand 
[12:30] Ranma Tardis: or does the 29th work better if we post today?
[12:30] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): With the LRA's permission; I'll take care of the announcment
[12:30] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): I'd prefer the 5th
[12:30] Em Warden (mothercard.warden): Both works for me
[12:30] Ranma Tardis: it will be too late foe chancellor
[12:30] Ranma Tardis: for
[12:31] Tanoujin Milestone: what day of week is that? Saturdays?
[12:31] Em Warden (mothercard.warden): YES
[12:31] Ranma Tardis: yes, any other day work like Monday November the 1st?
[12:31] Tanoujin Milestone:
[12:32] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): I'll need a 7 day vote, it will be much sooner than that; but at the beginning of the month I am usually gone doing errands IRL
[12:32] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): ie I can't do the meeting; but if I'm sent a transcript, I can post a vote on the forum the same day.
[12:33] Ranma Tardis: we need 4 votes to make the change
[12:33] Em Warden (mothercard.warden): Sorry- what change?
[12:33] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): Thanks, I'm confused too.
[12:33] Ranma Tardis: remove term limits
[12:33] RG Cooperstone (roguegeek.cooperstone): Ranma?
[12:34] Ranma Tardis: for the chancellor
[12:34] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): Not enough time to talk that through and make a decision
[12:34] Ranma Tardis: the other can be done on the 5th
[12:34] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): that has implications I don't even know about.
[12:34] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): I wouldn't be confident voting OR nay rn
[12:34] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): \o/ \o/ \o/
[12:34] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): gah....
[12:35] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): "voting 'yay' or 'nay' right now"
[12:35] Em Warden (mothercard.warden): It isn't on the Agenda, so there can't be any voting anyway
[12:35] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): (Coop is waiting to speak, btw)
[12:36] Ranma Tardis: do we have consensus?
[12:36] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): No
[12:36] Ranma Tardis: It should wait to next term?
[12:36] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): Something that far reaching? It needs a LOT more thrashing out than the 25th has time for.
[12:37] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): yes, it should wait.
[12:37] Em Warden (mothercard.warden): Next term we could be without a chancellor, and have an RA short of one member
[12:37] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): Also, I think Coop is still waiting to speak...?
[12:37] RG Cooperstone (roguegeek.cooperstone): Yes, he is
[12:37] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): I'll run for chancellor myself, if it comes to that.
[12:37] Em Warden (mothercard.warden):
[12:38] Ranma Tardis: we have consensus the changing of the constitution should wait until the 26th RA
[12:38] Leslie Allandale: so with me, there are two
[12:38] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): Yes, Ranma; also could you please call Coop?
[12:38] Tanoujin Milestone: soso I would like to hear Coop, please
[12:38] Jocelyne Tennyson is online.
[12:38] Ranma Tardis: you can seek Coop, we are having a free flowing discussion
[12:39] RG Cooperstone (roguegeek.cooperstone): You said click the stick
[12:39] RG Cooperstone (roguegeek.cooperstone): so I was doing what you asked
[12:40] Ranma Tardis: got TP, home for some odd reason
[12:40] RG Cooperstone (roguegeek.cooperstone): so, on one matter you guys are technically still the RA until 30 November
[12:40] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): Ranma, may I please moderate the rest of this meeting?
[12:40] Ranma Tardis: any one wish to address the RA?
[12:40] RG Cooperstone (roguegeek.cooperstone): the new RA does not take over until 1 December
[12:40] Ranma Tardis: sure thing
[12:40] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): Thank you, Ranma
[12:40] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): And thank you, Coop, for answering that -please click the stick to clear your name
[12:41] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): if you're done
[12:41] RG Cooperstone (roguegeek.cooperstone): on the matter of Term limits, while Gaius is correct that the law was repealed, the language of 13-5 converning the Chancellor still says they can serve two consecutive terms
[12:41] RG Cooperstone (roguegeek.cooperstone): So as it stands, the RA can serve as long as they want to run.
[12:42] RG Cooperstone (roguegeek.cooperstone): The Chancellor can't.
[12:42] RG Cooperstone (roguegeek.cooperstone): Thanks, and done
[12:42] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): Thank you, Coop ...both for clarifying those points and for your patience.
[12:42] RG Cooperstone (roguegeek.cooperstone) nods
[12:43] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): Are there any other RA OR Citizens concerns to discuss?
[12:43] Ranma Tardis: not from me
[12:43] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): If so, please clicck the stick and I'll call you in order that you appear
[12:43] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): going once,
[12:43] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): twice....
[12:43] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): Alirghty...
[12:43] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): Old business
[12:44] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): is there any old, unresolved issues to disucss?
[12:44] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): No?
[12:44] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): ANyone?
[12:44] Ranma Tardis: nope
[12:44] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): Ok...is there any NEW business to discuss?
[12:45] Ranma Tardis: nope
[12:45] Em Warden (mothercard.warden): I can't think of anyu
[12:45] Em Warden (mothercard.warden): any
[12:45] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): Okie doke; "General announcmeents"
[12:45] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): I have one, but I'll wait
[12:45] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): anyone else have anything?
[12:45] Ranma Tardis: nope
[12:46] Leslie Allandale: Ms chair
[12:46] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): Leslie, go ahead
[12:46] Leslie Allandale: I would like to mention the absence of yellow ion FS
[12:47] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): I'm not sure what you mean?
[12:47] Leslie Allandale: Only one parcel remains to be sold, so kudos to CDS worker bees
[12:47] RG Cooperstone (roguegeek.cooperstone): Friedsee is pretty booked up
[12:47] Leslie Allandale: done
[12:48] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): Thank you! I wasn't aware of that...congratulations to us! Thank you to everyone whose been showing off the CDS and talking us up
[12:48] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): WTG one and all
[12:48] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): Please clear your name if you're done, Leslie
[12:49] Leslie Allandale: Sorry my browser doesn't show names
[12:49] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): Ok. I have an announcmenet. If, on Oct 31st the chancellor issue is still unresolved, I will send Lilith Ivory a notecard retracting my RA candidacy and running for Chancellor myself
[12:49] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): I am done.
[12:50] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): Does anyone else have any announcments?
[12:50] Kate Amdahl: Hi Em and all. Sorry about the flailing around. I'm on a very, very limited viewer.
[12:50] Tanoujin Milestone: Hi Kate
[12:50] Em Warden (mothercard.warden): It's OK, Kate
[12:50] RG Cooperstone (roguegeek.cooperstone): we all have those days
[12:51] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): Let's move on..."Next meeting"
[12:51] Em Warden (mothercard.warden): As long as you don't suffocate anybody with your wings ))
[12:51] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): We have two dates in the air....when do we want to meet again?
[12:51] Ranma Tardis: November 5th at 12pm works for me
[12:51] Kate Amdahl: Em, that has only ever happened like three times, and I did remember to apologize.
[12:51] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): Do I hear a motion to that effect?
[12:52] Em Warden (mothercard.warden): The 5th is fine with me
[12:52] Leslie Allandale: I move
[12:52] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): second?
[12:52] Tanoujin Milestone: second
[12:52] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): please vote.
[12:52] Leslie Allandale: aye
[12:52] Ranma Tardis: aye
[12:52] Tanoujin Milestone: aye
[12:52] Em Warden (mothercard.warden): Aye
[12:53] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): So moved -we'll meet on Nov 5th, 12pm SLT
[12:53] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): Can I get a motion to adjourn?
[12:53] Ranma Tardis: I would like to close the meeting
[12:53] Tanoujin Milestone: so moved
[12:53] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): vote
[12:53] Em Warden (mothercard.warden): Second
[12:53] Leslie Allandale: seond
[12:53] Ranma Tardis: aye
[12:53] Leslie Allandale: aye
[12:53] Tanoujin Milestone: aye
[12:54] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): I call us adjourned at 11:53SLT, thank you to Ranma for her graciousness in allowing me to moderate the last part of the meeting
[12:54] Hannah Marie Bloodwolf (han.held): we are adjourned