Transcript - 4 August 2020 Road Committee Meeting

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Transcript - 4 August 2020 Road Committee Meeting

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[12:06] Guillaume Mistwalker: Let's get started
[12:06] Rosie Gray nods
[12:06] Guillaume Mistwalker: I will be keeping a transcript of the meeting
[12:06] Lyubov Atheria: i find "quay" confusing. what is the "quay" called in the Stella area? what is the water area called on the area east of the large bridge (named?) here?
[12:06] Guillaume Mistwalker: As well as a list of the names we choose!
[12:06] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane) fixes all typos in advance
[12:07] Rosie Gray: excellent!
[12:07] Lyubov Atheria: i have seen "quay" used here referring to different locations
[12:07] Guillaume Mistwalker: Let's get to that in a little while
[12:07] Lyubov Atheria: and i suppose i should look up "quay"..
[12:07] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): exactly
[12:07] Guillaume Mistwalker: Everyone has the list?
[12:07] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): (inner librarian appears)
[12:07] Rosie Gray: yep
[12:07] Laura Azalee: yes
[12:08] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): si
[12:08] Guillaume Mistwalker: Lyubov?
[12:08] Rosie Gray: I would like to know what the names not translated mean
[12:08] Rosie Gray: well I don't need Via Roma translated, hehe
[12:08] Guillaume Mistwalker: ㋡
[12:08] Rosie Gray: but what is Via degli Dieci?
[12:08] Guillaume Mistwalker: I'll assume Lyubov has one too
[12:09] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): is banchina bank?
[12:09] Laura Azalee: via dei dieci is street of the ten
[12:09] Laura Azalee: ten who?
[12:09] Lyubov Atheria: at least several copies
[12:09] Guillaume Mistwalker: Good!
[12:09] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ok
[12:09] Guillaume Mistwalker: So, everyone has the list.
[12:09] Guillaume Mistwalker: Here is how we have done this in the past.
[12:10] Guillaume Mistwalker: We will go street by street, discuss the suggestions, say what our initial favourites are.
[12:10] Guillaume Mistwalker: As discussion leads us, we may amend the suggestion.
[12:10] Guillaume Mistwalker: Or, we may come up with a new suggestion altogether!
[12:10] Guillaume Mistwalker: This process is consensus driven.
[12:11] Guillaume Mistwalker: So, we need everyone to be onboard with each proposal.
[12:11] Guillaume Mistwalker: And, since we are talking about two fishing villages, that metaphor is appropriate
[12:11] Guillaume Mistwalker: Are there any questions?
[12:11] Rosie Gray: no sir ㋡
[12:11] Laura Azalee: no
[12:12] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ok!
[12:12] Guillaume Mistwalker: You may want to have the map handy.
[12:12] Guillaume Mistwalker: Let us begin with road #1!
[12:12] Guillaume Mistwalker: 1. Via degli Dieci, Via Roma, strada polverosa (dusty road), Via Guillermo
[12:12] Laura Azalee: it would be via DEI dieci
[12:12] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): I like Via Guillermo
[12:12] Guillaume Mistwalker: Thank you ㋡
[12:12] Rosie Gray: what does it mean, Laura?
[12:13] Guillaume Mistwalker: Road of the 10
[12:13] Laura Azalee: street of theten
[12:13] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): 10 what?
[12:13] Laura Azalee: ten who??
[12:13] Rosie Gray: what 10 is this?
[12:13] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): ROFL
[12:13] Guillaume Mistwalker: Hahaha
[12:13] Guillaume Mistwalker: I can tell that suggestion does not move people ㋡
[12:13] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): Laura said theater?
[12:13] Laura Azalee: no
[12:14] Rosie Gray: I do like via Guillermo too
[12:14] Rosie Gray: I like the idea of honouring our citizens
[12:14] Laura Azalee: I'd go for via roma or via polverosa
[12:14] Laura Azalee: ok if we have via guillermo...
[12:14] Guillaume Mistwalker: I am not sure if I like dusty road...
[12:14] Laura Azalee: I want a via delle azalee :P
[12:15] Guillaume Mistwalker: I think that would be appropriate for C or D
[12:15] Rosie Gray: now, Laura!
[12:15] Guillaume Mistwalker: Haha
[12:15] Rosie Gray: lol
[12:15] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): we cxan fix that in the fishing village LOL
[12:15] Laura Azalee: giggles
[12:15] Lyubov Atheria: she's naming it after the Azelia flower, of course :)
[12:15] Guillaume Mistwalker: ㋡
[12:15] Laura Azalee: of course
[12:15] Laura Azalee: but then we'l have to put a row of azaleas
[12:15] Guillaume Mistwalker: What's wrong with that?
[12:15] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): fortunately I feel no need for a via Kyoko
[12:15] Lyubov Atheria: we might know a Gardener :)
[12:15] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): so you can relax
[12:16] Guillaume Mistwalker: So, it seems like via Guillermo or another name
[12:17] Guillaume Mistwalker: I like the ides of naming it after natural features
[12:17] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): and dusty it is LOL
[12:17] Rosie Gray: well thus my suggestion of the dusty road!
[12:17] Rosie Gray: hehe
[12:17] Laura Azalee: I like it
[12:17] Lyubov Atheria: everything sounds nice in italian, even "dusty road" :)
[12:17] Guillaume Mistwalker: ㋡
[12:17] Rosie Gray: it does!
[12:17] Laura Azalee: Idk
[12:17] Guillaume Mistwalker: Well, it seems like people like Via Polverosa!
[12:18] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): or there are lots of Italian pines or somesuch near the CN gate via de pins? correct mwe Laura
[12:18] Laura Azalee: via polverosa then?
[12:18] Guillaume Mistwalker: Shall we decide on that one?
[12:18] Rosie Gray: should we vote on them?
[12:18] Laura Azalee: it would be via dei pini
[12:18] Guillaume Mistwalker: Sure!
[12:18] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane) thjinks Gaius has espcaped too easily
[12:18] Guillaume Mistwalker: All for Via Polverosa, please vote
[12:19] Laura Azalee: aye
[12:19] Lyubov Atheria: is this correct Laura? well if laura votes "aye" :)
[12:19] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): LOL
[12:19] Rosie Gray: ㋡
[12:19] Guillaume Mistwalker: She voted aye so I suspect it is!
[12:19] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): I'm torn
[12:19] Laura Azalee: yeah
[12:19] Rosie Gray: I do like Via Guillermo though
[12:20] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): guiermo pines and dusty all work for me
[12:20] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): If I had to pick I'd pick Guillermo
[12:20] Guillaume Mistwalker: Hm...
[12:20] Rosie Gray: what do you think, Lyubov?
[12:21] Lyubov Atheria: well, what is the intent, exactly, of today's meeting? i thought we were not necessarily choosing *the* road names, but at least narrowing down a "suggested" collection of names, then asking "all" citizens to weign-in (via forum, poll, etc?)
[12:21] Laura Azalee: ok I have an idea
[12:21] Rosie Gray: no, we are choosing the names
[12:21] Rosie Gray: that's what we did last time anyway
[12:21] Laura Azalee: Lyubov we cant go forum for everything!
[12:21] Laura Azalee: anyway my idea
[12:21] Rosie Gray: yeah I agree, if you ask 10 people you will get ten different answers
[12:22] Guillaume Mistwalker: Plus a survey would be very long
[12:22] Laura Azalee: we call this road via dei pini - or via polverosa - natural name BUT
[12:22] Lyubov Atheria: i was only going by what i understood from the forum discusison on this topic and our RA chat...so yes, i am confused
[12:22] Laura Azalee: we keep gllermo for #2
[12:22] Guillaume Mistwalker: And we would probably have few respondents if we had a survey
[12:22] Rosie Gray: I was hoping for Cadence for #2
[12:22] Laura Azalee: as none of the suggested names really works
[12:22] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): me too
[12:22] Rosie Gray: she was here for a very long time, and now is mysteriously vanished
[12:23] Guillaume Mistwalker: Oh no... :(
[12:23] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): well thjere was turmoil in her country
[12:23] Rosie Gray: she was here for years and was an important part of the community
[12:23] Laura Azalee: ok Idk who cadence is but if you want that name, it has to say in English
[12:23] Guillaume Mistwalker: In Colombia?
[12:23] Laura Azalee: definitely
[12:23] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): yes
[12:23] Rosie Gray: yes, Colombia
[12:23] Rosie Gray: oh why is that, Laura?
[12:24] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): and he internet was through the uni whivh they closed
[12:24] Rosie Gray: Cadenza doesn't work?
[12:24] Laura Azalee: becuse it's appalling in italian, means nothing
[12:24] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): cadenza is good because it suggests music as does Cadence
[12:24] Rosie Gray: yes that was my thought
[12:24] Laura Azalee: it's not a name tho
[12:25] Rosie Gray: could it be phrased somehow so that it refers to the musical term?
[12:25] Lyubov Atheria: "appalling" probably isn't the "vibe" we want
[12:25] Laura Azalee: really you can call all the roads fnboij0i and wrloteke0'g if you like but
[12:25] Laura Azalee: if you want something that makes sense...
[12:25] Guillaume Mistwalker: Cadence isn't really a name in English, either, though it has become one.
[12:26] Rosie Gray: it is a name in English
[12:26] Rosie Gray: I know 2 people named Cadence ㋡
[12:26] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): what is important is that it is HER name
[12:26] Guillaume Mistwalker: I stand corrected
[12:26] Guillaume Mistwalker: Yes
[12:26] Laura Azalee: then... leave it at Cadence's quay
[12:26] Rosie Gray: yes, exactly Kyoko
[12:26] Guillaume Mistwalker: Quay di Cadence?
[12:26] Laura Azalee: no
[12:26] Laura Azalee: sounds awful
[12:26] Lyubov Atheria: what about adding a title to her name, like "
Sig.ra Cadence...." less bad?
[12:26] Rosie Gray: what about Theas, as that is her last name
[12:26] Laura Azalee: even more awful with signora
[12:27] Laura Azalee: unless
[12:27] Laura Azalee: i italian we usually call the roads along the sea front "lungomare"
[12:27] Laura Azalee: and you'll have lungomare Rossini or whatever other name
[12:28] Laura Azalee: so Lungomare Cadence might be aceptable
[12:28] Rosie Gray: well #2 isn't a road, it's this quay
[12:28] Star (jasmine.lordenwych) is online.
[12:28] Laura Azalee: it's not even a lungomare then
[12:28] Guillaume Mistwalker: Banchina di Cadence?
[12:28] Laura Azalee: nooooooooooo
[12:28] Rosie Gray: Piazza Cadence?
[12:28] Laura Azalee: noooooooooooo
[12:28] Laura Azalee: and noooooo
[12:28] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): to me the concrete is the quai
[12:28] Laura Azalee: Piazza Cadence yes
[12:28] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): the water is a basin
[12:28] Rosie Gray: yes me too
[12:28] Lyubov Atheria: she basically *hates* anything with "cadence".
[12:28] Lyubov Atheria: oh ok
[12:29] Laura Azalee: yes I do
[12:29] Rosie Gray: Piazza Cadence works?
[12:29] Rosie Gray: we don't need to call it a quay
[12:29] Laura Azalee: it sonds wrong unless you leave it at cadence's qay
[12:29] Laura Azalee: but Piazza is ok
[12:29] Lyubov Atheria: so: keep it plain english, or get rid of "cadence"
[12:29] Laura Azalee: you can have piazza anything
[12:30] Laura Azalee: pazza fursane or piazza mistwalker or whatever
[12:30] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ok
[12:30] Laura Azalee: piazza
[12:30] Rosie Gray: I think it's important that we remember our long-term serving citizens
[12:30] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): I've seen squares etc.. named with a full name
[12:30] Rosie Gray: oh interesting thought, Kyoko
[12:30] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): such as vittorio emmanuel
[12:30] Laura Azalee: this is not really a square either... but ok
[12:31] Rosie Gray: Piazza Cadence Theas?
[12:31] Guillaume Mistwalker: How would you call this then, Laura?
[12:31] Laura Azalee: vittorio emauele
[12:31] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): what is the Italian word for promenade?
[12:31] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): close
[12:31] Laura Azalee: plus the number... II
[12:31] Laura Azalee: passeggiata
[12:31] Laura Azalee: but then lungomare would be better
[12:32] Rosie Gray: I made that part of a suggestion for #4
[12:32] Laura Azalee: Passeggiata cadence would be ok.... I guess
[12:32] Guillaume Mistwalker: If I may interrupt
[12:32] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): I think we need to remind ourselves that this is virtual reality
[12:32] Guillaume Mistwalker: We have been here for thirty minutes
[12:33] Laura Azalee: so just leave the darn name in English...
[12:33] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): I'd like to think we can bend here and there
[12:33] Rosie Gray: we've bent here and there in German ;)
[12:33] Laura Azalee: cadence's quay is not too ugly
[12:33] Lyubov Atheria: oh yes Rosie, and Almut is on top of that too! :D
[12:33] Guillaume Mistwalker: Why not just "the Quay"?
[12:33] Rosie Gray: boring
[12:34] Rosie Gray: lol, true Lyubov
[12:34] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): Quai-simodo?
[12:34] Lyubov Atheria: umm porbably not :)
[12:34] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ok, then Cadence's Quay?
[12:34] Rosie Gray laughs
[12:34] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane) giggles
[12:34] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): fine with me
[12:34] Laura Azalee: Id leave it at that Gillaume
[12:34] Rosie Gray: okay
[12:35] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): our CDS militia can practice thier marrching cadences here
[12:35] Laura Azalee: rolls eyes....
[12:35] Rosie Gray: hehe
[12:35] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ok
[12:35] Lyubov Atheria: maybe try a "limit debate" format, say 2 to 5 minutes? do what can be done quickly, come back to more challenging names later, maybe even ask for additional input later if needed...
[12:35] Guillaume Mistwalker: Sure.
[12:36] Guillaume Mistwalker: Let's do that ㋡
[12:36] Rosie Gray: okay!
[12:36] Laura Azalee: yes lyubov or we'l never finis
[12:36] Laura Azalee: finish
[12:36] Guillaume Mistwalker: I am also going to ask for people to say that suggestions they like
[12:36] Rosie Gray: let's try to make the names meaningful though, or there's no point in doing it
[12:36] Lyubov Atheria: yes i'm afraid this meeting might run into the RA meeting (at this time next tuesday!) :D
[12:36] Guillaume Mistwalker: #3: what suggestions do people like?
[12:37] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): is this the big pont?
[12:37] Rosie Gray: do any of them sound awful, Laura?
[12:37] Laura Azalee: most of them
[12:37] Rosie Gray sighs
[12:37] Laura Azalee: no not true
[12:37] Laura Azalee: Id delete the first one for sure
[12:37] Laura Azalee: Pons Extimum... I trst you on that Gaius?
[12:37] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): I like bridge of the lost...
[12:38] Laura Azalee: es me too
[12:38] Guillaume Mistwalker: Pons = Masculine
[12:38] Guillaume Mistwalker: Pons Extimus
[12:38] Laura Azalee: yeah i know
[12:38] Laura Azalee: extimus means the farthest?
[12:38] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): considering it checkered history and differences of opinion
[12:39] Guillaume Mistwalker: Yes
[12:39] Lyubov Atheria: that sounds um "not good"
[12:39] Guillaume Mistwalker: I also like Ponte dei Perduti
[12:39] Guillaume Mistwalker: vel sim
[12:40] Guillaume Mistwalker: Anyone else?
[12:40] Laura Azalee: Id go for ponte dei perduti too
[12:40] Guillaume Mistwalker: Rosie, Lyubov?
[12:41] Rosie Gray: yes to Ponte dei perduti
[12:41] Lyubov Atheria: i'll have what Laura's having :)
[12:41] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ok
[12:41] Laura Azalee: LOL Lyubov
[12:41] Guillaume Mistwalker writes down.
[12:41] Guillaume Mistwalker: #4?
[12:41] Laura Azalee: I'll have a Margarita thn!
[12:41] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): me too
[12:41] Rosie Gray: that first one is a mouthful
[12:41] Guillaume Mistwalker: I like Passeggiata di Molly, or even Lungomare
[12:41] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): on lost bridge
[12:41] Laura Azalee: ok I dont like the first one AT ALL
[12:42] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): what number are we on?
[12:42] Laura Azalee: Passeggiata di Mollly is ok
[12:42] Guillaume Mistwalker: #4
[12:42] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): thanks
[12:42] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): yeah I agree with Laura on that
[12:42] Laura Azalee: who's costero?
[12:42] Rosie Gray: what does Costero mean?
[12:42] Guillaume Mistwalker: No clue!
[12:42] Rosie Gray: oh... thought it was something in Italian
[12:43] Laura Azalee: nope
[12:43] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): Isn't Giulia a first name?
[12:43] Laura Azalee: unless they ment via costiera - coastal road
[12:43] Rosie Gray: but who is Giulia?
[12:43] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): fellini film?
[12:43] Rosie Gray: hehe
[12:43] Laura Azalee: via gilia is a classic roan name
[12:43] Lyubov Atheria: and who is molly? i like the sound of Giulia at least
[12:43] Laura Azalee: romann
[12:43] Laura Azalee: from julius Caesar
[12:43] Rosie Gray: Molly is another citizen who was here, and she died
[12:43] Guillaume Mistwalker: Molly was a former citizen
[12:43] Rosie Gray: she had a big parcel along that road
[12:44] Guillaume Mistwalker nods
[12:44] Guillaume Mistwalker: Big garden, too
[12:44] Rosie Gray: yes, lovely
[12:44] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane) sighs
[12:44] Laura Azalee: I like via Gilia, sounds very mediterranean
[12:44] Laura Azalee: Giulia
[12:44] Lyubov Atheria: i think she drives an Alpha Romeo :)
[12:44] Guillaume Mistwalker: Perhaps we could name #7 Passeggiata di Molly
[12:44] Rosie Gray: but who is it referring to?
[12:44] Widget Whiteberry is online.
[12:44] Sue Veliz is online.
[12:44] Guillaume Mistwalker: Laura said, Rosie
[12:45] Guillaume Mistwalker: From Julius Caesar
[12:45] Laura Azalee: what did I say?
[12:45] Laura Azalee: ah
[12:45] Laura Azalee: yes
[12:45] Rosie Gray: oh
[12:45] Rosie Gray shrugs
[12:45] Rosie Gray: that has no reference for us though
[12:45] Laura Azalee: one of the important roads near rome is still called via gilia
[12:45] Laura Azalee: giulia
[12:46] Laura Azalee: is this road along the seafront?
[12:46] Guillaume Mistwalker: Yup
[12:46] Rosie Gray: I vote for Passeggiata di Molly
[12:46] Laura Azalee: then it's better lungomare Molly
[12:46] Guillaume Mistwalker: I can agree to that
[12:46] Rosie Gray: okay
[12:46] Laura Azalee: o
[12:46] Laura Azalee: k
[12:46] Guillaume Mistwalker: Lungomare Molly Medier?
[12:47] Rosie Gray: what does the 'lungo' part of the word mean?
[12:47] Laura Azalee: along
[12:47] Laura Azalee: along the sea
[12:47] Rosie Gray: aah
[12:47] Rosie Gray: okay makes sense
[12:47] Guillaume Mistwalker: How do we like Lungomare Molly Medier?
[12:47] Rosie Gray: I like it
[12:47] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): Idoes someone have a map?
[12:47] Laura Azalee: like I said , they are all called lungomare
[12:47] Rosie Gray: the map is in the notecard
[12:47] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): df'oh
[12:48] Laura Azalee: ooohhhhhhh
[12:48] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): merci LOL
[12:48] Lyubov Atheria: 5 minutes on #4 so far...
[12:48] Guillaume Mistwalker: I think we are agreed?
[12:49] Guillaume Mistwalker: Lungomare Molly Medier?
[12:49] Laura Azalee: yes
[12:49] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): I'm ok with lungomare molly medier
[12:49] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): sorry if typos
[12:49] Rosie Gray: me too
[12:49] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ok
[12:49] Lyubov Atheria: sure
[12:49] Guillaume Mistwalker: Lyubov, you keep track of time ㋡
[12:49] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ok!
[12:49] Guillaume Mistwalker: #5
[12:49] Guillaume Mistwalker: #5 is called Via Luna in CN, I would like to keep the name.
[12:49] Laura Azalee: I like via luna most
[12:50] Laura Azalee: it's short, it's nice
[12:50] Guillaume Mistwalker: Others?
[12:50] Rosie Gray: agreed
[12:50] Guillaume Mistwalker: Or easiest road yet...?
[12:50] Rosie Gray: makes sense to keep the name continued
[12:50] Guillaume Mistwalker: *Our
[12:51] Guillaume Mistwalker: Kyoko, Lyubov?
[12:51] Lyubov Atheria: sure. next? :)
[12:51] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): fine with me
[12:51] Laura Azalee: I like riva dei pescatori
[12:51] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ok
[12:51] Lyubov Atheria: sure. done! :D
[12:51] Guillaume Mistwalker: I do too ㋡
[12:52] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): via luna
[12:52] Laura Azalee: ah no wait
[12:52] Laura Azalee: that is 7
[12:52] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): what is next 6?
[12:52] Guillaume Mistwalker: 6. Riva degli Rustici, Passeggiata sul Fiume, passeggiata in barca (boat slip promenade), Passerella del porto
[12:52] Lyubov Atheria: put a pin in #7 (done!) :D
[12:52] Laura Azalee: I dont like any of those sorry... they all sound weird
[12:52] Guillaume Mistwalker: Give us a suggestion then ㋡
[12:52] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): wait wgat is 7?
[12:52] Guillaume Mistwalker: Let's focus on #6
[12:52] Rosie Gray: look on the map, Kyoko
[12:52] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): I did
[12:53] Laura Azalee: thinking
[12:53] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): did we name it?
[12:53] Guillaume Mistwalker: No
[12:53] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): ok
[12:53] Rosie Gray: #6?
[12:53] Laura Azalee: Riva dei rustici could be ok
[12:53] Guillaume Mistwalker: We put a pin in Riva degli Pescatori
[12:53] Lyubov Atheria: 6 are all awful, says Laura
[12:53] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): (who's on first?
[12:53] Rosie Gray: Riva degli Rustici... does that mean Rustic Road?
[12:53] Laura Azalee: Riva dei Rustici could be ok... even if a bit weird
[12:53] Guillaume Mistwalker: Riva Agricola?
[12:54] Rosie Gray: what does it mean, Laura?
[12:54] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): Passerella del port
[12:54] Laura Azalee: no worse
[12:54] Laura Azalee: it means.... I dk!
[12:54] Guillaume Mistwalker: Rive dei Rustici = Bank of the Rustic folk
[12:54] Laura Azalee: rustico could be something like a sort of coutry cottage
[12:54] Guillaume Mistwalker: *Riva
[12:54] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): has to do with farms/agriculture
[12:54] Lyubov Atheria: (can tell Laura Loves google translate results! :)
[12:54] Laura Azalee: or maybe rustic peole
[12:54] Laura Azalee: it means nothing but
[12:54] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): there is a vineyard someplace there
[12:54] Laura Azalee: sounds good
[12:54] Laura Azalee: it sounds possible
[12:55] Guillaume Mistwalker: I like that it goes with the road across the harbor
[12:55] Laura Azalee: i HATE, HATE, HATE GOOGLE TRANSLATE
[12:55] Laura Azalee: sorry caps
[12:55] Lyubov Atheria: :D
[12:55] Lyubov Atheria: oh i Know you Meant it! :D
[12:55] Guillaume Mistwalker: Are we good with Rive dei Rustici?
[12:55] Guillaume Mistwalker: *RIVA
[12:55] Laura Azalee: riva
[12:55] Laura Azalee: yes
[12:55] Rosie Gray: lol, Laura
[12:55] Laura Azalee: it's ok
[12:55] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): yes
[12:56] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ok
[12:56] Lyubov Atheria: start fresh, laura, can you think of a different more reasonable name?
[12:56] Laura Azalee: nope
[12:56] Laura Azalee: nope
[12:56] Lyubov Atheria: oi :(
[12:56] Rosie Gray: so, let's go with it
[12:56] Guillaume Mistwalker: #7
[12:56] Laura Azalee: I think that one is ok
[12:56] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): OK
[12:56] Guillaume Mistwalker: Riva dei Pescatori?
[12:56] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): I have something to say about #7
[12:56] Laura Azalee: like i said, i vote for riva dei pescaori
[12:57] Guillaume Mistwalker: Yes, Kyoko?
[12:57] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): we have two galleries a shop and a restaurant.
[12:57] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): Maybe via de artisani (sp?)
[12:57] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): or via commerciale?
[12:57] Laura Azalee: via degli artigiani
[12:57] Guillaume Mistwalker: I like that suggestion
[12:57] Guillaume Mistwalker: Oooh
[12:57] Laura Azalee: but artigiano is craftsmann
[12:57] Guillaume Mistwalker: I like that.
[12:58] Laura Azalee: it sounds good tho
[12:58] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): that's fine
[12:58] Guillaume Mistwalker: We do have more craftspeople than fisherpeople
[12:58] Rosie Gray: is there a different word for 'artisan'?
[12:58] Laura Azalee: not that I can think of
[12:59] Guillaume Mistwalker: According to my dictionary, that's the only one that works
[12:59] Guillaume Mistwalker: Riva degli Artigiani?
[12:59] Laura Azalee: yeah
[12:59] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): fine with me
[12:59] Guillaume Mistwalker: I like it.
[12:59] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): it might encourage it to stay is a mixed commercial use
[13:00] Guillaume Mistwalker: Wait
[13:00] Guillaume Mistwalker: Are all the people who are artisans there women?
[13:00] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): but by kittycat eats all my profits LOL
[13:00] Guillaume Mistwalker: Riva delle Artigiane?
[13:00] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): at the moment
[13:00] Laura Azalee: no please
[13:00] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): but they may be men or women
[13:00] Laura Azalee: exactly
[13:00] Guillaume Mistwalker: Yes, it can be
[13:00] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): and mixed uses the masculine
[13:00] Rosie Gray: there's a photographer studio up a bit that's a man's
[13:00] Guillaume Mistwalker: I just know that some may want the feminine ㋡
[13:01] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ok
[13:01] Guillaume Mistwalker: Lyubov, Rosie
[13:01] Rosie Gray: thank you for thinking of that, Guillaume!
[13:01] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): nbot this rabid feminists
[13:01] Guillaume Mistwalker: degli Artigiani?
[13:01] Laura Azalee: not me!!! they are torturing the language right now
[13:01] Laura Azalee: introducinng female words that dont exist
[13:01] Rosie Gray: well we don't want to introduce words that don't exist
[13:02] Lyubov Atheria: we'll just add an "X" to the gender endings instead to be neutral " :(
[13:02] Laura Azalee: ggggghhhh
[13:02] Guillaume Mistwalker: I'm writing down Riva degli Artigiani
[13:03] Rosie Gray: sounds good, Guill
[13:03] Guillaume Mistwalker: #8?
[13:03] Guillaume Mistwalker: I like Soro's Dock
[13:03] Laura Azalee: none of them means anything
[13:03] Laura Azalee: apart fromm arsenale
[13:03] Guillaume Mistwalker: Or Arsenale
[13:03] Laura Azalee: which is where they bild ships
[13:03] Rosie Gray: Laura, does Bacino di... is that part correct?
[13:03] Laura Azalee: do they build ships there?
[13:04] Laura Azalee: bacino is a word that exists, but i dont think it would be used in that context
[13:04] Guillaume Mistwalker: Well, build, no, but that's where houseboats are located
[13:04] Guillaume Mistwalker: I like Arsenale
[13:04] Rosie Gray: and it's where Soro has been with his ugly houseboat for years
[13:04] Laura Azalee: ahhhh...where my swimming pool is?
[13:04] Guillaume Mistwalker: Yes
[13:04] Rosie Gray: yes, along there
[13:05] Guillaume Mistwalker: I hope Soro won't see this transcript ㋡
[13:05] Laura Azalee: well if you call it l'arsenale it may mean that in old time there WAS ship building and the name has sayed
[13:05] Rosie Gray: it's just a little wooden dock
[13:05] Laura Azalee: l'Arsenale then
[13:05] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): that's nice really
[13:06] Guillaume Mistwalker: Any opposed?
[13:06] Guillaume Mistwalker: Rosie, Lyubov?
[13:06] Rosie Gray: I'm neutral
[13:06] Lyubov Atheria: same as rosie
[13:06] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ok
[13:06] Guillaume Mistwalker: Let's return to it
[13:07] Guillaume Mistwalker: #9
[13:07] Laura Azalee: wait
[13:07] Guillaume Mistwalker: Yes?
[13:07] Guillaume Mistwalker: Sorry.
[13:07] Laura Azalee: how about that riva dei pescatori which was previously suggested?
[13:07] Guillaume Mistwalker: Oh ㋡
[13:07] Laura Azalee: I think it would be cute
[13:07] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): yes
[13:07] Lyubov Atheria: like it :)
[13:07] Laura Azalee: there is some fishing gear
[13:08] Guillaume Mistwalker: That's the most optimistic response you've given yet, Laura ㋡
[13:08] Laura Azalee: LOL
[13:08] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): maybe my kittycat will fish for dinner rather that eating my inventory
[13:08] Laura Azalee: LOL
[13:08] Laura Azalee: my merkitty does!
[13:08] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane) grins
[13:08] Rosie Gray: are we on number 9?
[13:08] Guillaume Mistwalker: No, still on #8
[13:08] Rosie Gray: oh
[13:09] Guillaume Mistwalker: Do you like Riva dei Pescatori?
[13:09] Guillaume Mistwalker: Seems everyone else is agreed
[13:09] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): I like it
[13:09] Rosie Gray: yes
[13:09] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ok
[13:09] Guillaume Mistwalker: Then now we are on #9!
[13:09] Rosie Gray: whew
[13:09] Guillaume Mistwalker: I like Piazza della Libertà
[13:09] Lyubov Atheria: oh "dusty" again :)
[13:09] Laura Azalee: yeah me too
[13:09] Rosie Gray: I actually don't think we need to name that little circle
[13:09] Laura Azalee: I'd leave it to that
[13:10] Rosie Gray: it's just a road junction
[13:10] Laura Azalee: ah
[13:10] Laura Azalee: then why name it?
[13:10] Guillaume Mistwalker: Because it is a little circle
[13:10] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): I like greek alley
[13:10] Rosie Gray: because Guillaume wants to
[13:10] Guillaume Mistwalker: We don't have to
[13:10] Lyubov Atheria: you can name anything...maybe mizou's roundabout here needs a name too :)
[13:11] Rosie Gray: oh, Greek Alley is for a.
[13:11] Laura Azalee: an alley is not a square... so what is it... an alley or a square?
[13:11] Lyubov Atheria: it's a circle :D
[13:11] Guillaume Mistwalker: I think even circular "squares" are called piazze
[13:11] Rosie Gray: it's just a roads junction, I thought
[13:11] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): then why is the road bright yellow?
[13:12] Laura Azalee: there is another word, but i cant remember it
[13:12] Laura Azalee: or maye I am imagining it
[13:12] Guillaume Mistwalker: It is an intersection
[13:12] Rosie Gray: yes
[13:12] Guillaume Mistwalker: But it is a big intersection
[13:12] Laura Azalee: so lets just not name it?
[13:12] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ok ㋡
[13:12] Lyubov Atheria: Big Junction :)
[13:12] Rosie Gray: hehe
[13:13] Guillaume Mistwalker: Now that's a name you'd hear in North America I think
[13:13] Lyubov Atheria: (hey, we use names like "Big Theater" and it sounds good!)
[13:13] Rosie Gray: what's the Italian of "undecided junction'?
[13:13] Laura Azalee: no idea!
[13:13] Laura Azalee: incrocio senza nome?
[13:13] Guillaume Mistwalker: Hahaha
[13:13] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): I have a faint yen for Tortuosa Strada
[13:13] Laura Azalee: (nameless crossroads
[13:13] Guillaume Mistwalker: I kind of like that...
[13:14] Laura Azalee: ok it wouuld be strada tortuosa
[13:14] Guillaume Mistwalker: Which one?
[13:14] Guillaume Mistwalker: B?
[13:14] Laura Azalee: the long and winding roaaaad....
[13:14] Laura Azalee: tat leads to your homeeee...
[13:14] Laura Azalee: sorry
[13:14] Guillaume Mistwalker: ㋡
[13:14] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ok, I will delete #9
[13:15] Guillaume Mistwalker: Are there thoughts on A?
[13:15] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): crocevia senza nome
[13:15] Laura Azalee: greek alley for me too
[13:15] Guillaume Mistwalker: I like Greek Alley
[13:15] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): is there another map?
[13:15] Guillaume Mistwalker: Nope
[13:15] Lyubov Atheria: zoom in...
[13:15] Rosie Gray: no, you just have to look very closely
[13:15] Guillaume Mistwalker: The lettered roads are small
[13:16] Guillaume Mistwalker: Vicolo Greco?
[13:16] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): you will make me blind
[13:16] Guillaume Mistwalker: It's near Sudane's shop
[13:16] Lyubov Atheria: sounds good, greek alley :)
[13:16] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): I know LOL
[13:16] Laura Azalee: o
[13:16] Laura Azalee: vicolo greco
[13:16] Guillaume Mistwalker: Does it have the Laura seal of approval?
[13:16] Rosie Gray nods
[13:16] Laura Azalee: yes
[13:16] Laura Azalee: lol
[13:16] Rosie Gray: yay!
[13:16] Lyubov Atheria: done. next!
[13:16] Guillaume Mistwalker: B!
[13:16] Lyubov Atheria: winding road...
[13:17] Guillaume Mistwalker: Strada Tortuosa?
[13:17] Laura Azalee: via tortuosa
[13:17] Laura Azalee: I like via better
[13:17] Lyubov Atheria: via it is! :)
[13:17] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ok ㋡
[13:17] Lyubov Atheria: next! :)
[13:17] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): me too
[13:17] Guillaume Mistwalker: Rosie?
[13:17] Rosie Gray: we are on B?
[13:18] Guillaume Mistwalker: Yup
[13:18] Guillaume Mistwalker: Suggestion is Via Tortuosa
[13:18] Rosie Gray: yes I like that
[13:18] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ok!
[13:18] Guillaume Mistwalker: C
[13:18] Guillaume Mistwalker: c. Strada della Arte, Strada Breve, Vicolo dei pescatori (fisherman's alley)
[13:18] Laura Azalee: strada dell'arte - is there a gallery?
[13:18] Guillaume Mistwalker: There used to be
[13:19] Laura Azalee: ok then
[13:19] Guillaume Mistwalker: Calli used to have a gallery next to it
[13:19] Laura Azalee: the name has stayed from past times
[13:19] Rosie Gray: right
[13:19] Guillaume Mistwalker: Strada dell'Arte?
[13:19] Rosie Gray: yes
[13:19] Laura Azalee: I think its fine
[13:19] Lyubov Atheria: lots of art....
[13:20] Guillaume Mistwalker: Or Strada of the pine?
[13:20] Laura Azalee: oh it's STRADA DELL'ARTE
[13:20] Lyubov Atheria: i need to leave in about 10 minutes...looks like we might be able to get through the rest of the LA by then?
[13:20] Laura Azalee: the pne?
[13:20] Laura Azalee: strada dei pini would be nice
[13:20] Laura Azalee: are there any pines?
[13:20] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): agrees
[13:20] Guillaume Mistwalker: Someone suggested naming a road near there after pines
[13:21] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): me
[13:21] Laura Azalee: but...are there pies?
[13:21] Laura Azalee: pines
[13:21] Rosie Gray: no pines there
[13:21] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): plant some
[13:21] Laura Azalee: we can put them!!!
[13:21] Guillaume Mistwalker: There are Cyrpresses
[13:21] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane) grins
[13:22] Laura Azalee: via dei cipressi then
[13:22] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): ok cypre?
[13:22] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): I'm easy
[13:22] Lyubov Atheria: sounds good laura
[13:22] Guillaume Mistwalker: Via dei Cipressi?
[13:22] Guillaume Mistwalker: Rosie?
[13:22] Rosie Gray: are we still on C?
[13:22] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): however cypress is spelled in italian
[13:22] Guillaume Mistwalker: Yes
[13:22] Laura Azalee: cipressi
[13:23] Guillaume Mistwalker: Or perhaps that can be D
[13:23] Rosie Gray: there's no trees there on C
[13:23] Guillaume Mistwalker: And C and be Strada di Callipige?
[13:23] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): OK I have some RL rearing it's head
[13:23] Rosie Gray: D has the trees
[13:23] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): Carry on my friends
[13:23] Rosie Gray: and they are olives
[13:23] Rosie Gray: okay see you Kyoko!
[13:23] Laura Azalee: via degli ulivi would be nice then!!!
[13:23] Guillaume Mistwalker: We could adjourn
[13:23] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ok!
[13:23] Guillaume Mistwalker: D = Via degli Ulivi
[13:24] Guillaume Mistwalker: C?
[13:24] Guillaume Mistwalker: C could be Strada dell'Arte still
[13:24] Rosie Gray: C has the olive trees
[13:24] Rosie Gray: sorry, not C.. D!
[13:24] Guillaume Mistwalker laughs
[13:25] Rosie Gray: omg
[13:25] Laura Azalee: via degli ulivi is prettier - considering there are no art galleries there
[13:25] Rosie Gray: /laughs too
[13:25] Guillaume Mistwalker: But now we need a name for C
[13:25] Laura Azalee: I move to adjourn...
[13:25] Guillaume Mistwalker: Ok
[13:25] Rosie Gray: why don't we leave C with the art gallery
[13:25] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane) is offline.
[13:25] Guillaume Mistwalker: Let us adjourn, since we've been at this for an hour and a half.
[13:25] Rosie Gray: okay
[13:26] Laura Azalee: because the olive trees are there and the gallery isnt?
[13:26] Lyubov Atheria: good work, lots of progress today, thank you gaius :)
[13:26] Guillaume Mistwalker: Thank you, Lyubov ㋡
[13:26] Rosie Gray: ㋡
[13:26] Guillaume Mistwalker: We could also combine C and D...
[13:26] Laura Azalee: we've done most of it
[13:26] Laura Azalee: next time should be shorter
[13:27] Rosie Gray: yes, not so many in CN

Gaius Nebuliens Curio (Guillaume Mistwalker)
si enim pecunias aequari non placet, si ingenia omnium paria esse non possunt, iura certe paria debent esse eorum inter se, qui sunt cives in eadem re publica. (Cic. De Rep. 1.32.49)
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