RA Transcript: July 12, 2009

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RA Transcript: July 12, 2009

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Note: This transcript is in two parts. I had to leave the meeting before its conclusion, so this portion of the transcript ends at 10:39 AM SLT. Soro recorded the remainder of the meeting and will post it as soon as possible.

[9:21] Gwyneth Llewelyn: mmmh do we have a quorum?
[9:21] Gwyneth Llewelyn: no ty
[9:21] Gwyneth Llewelyn: :)
[9:22] Patroklus Murakami: we are quorate
[9:22] Brian Livingston: e-mail sent
[9:22] Pip Torok: apparently yes
[9:22] Sonja Strom: Thanks Brian
[9:22] Gwyneth Llewelyn: thanks,. Brian!
[9:22] Patroklus Murakami: i nominate brian as leader pro-tem :)
[9:22] Brian Livingston: Not it!
[9:22] Brian Livingston hides
[9:22] Sonja Strom: lol
[9:23] Pip Torok: as bad as the speaker of the UK Commons!
[9:23] Brian Livingston is easing into RA retirement :)
[9:23] Pip Torok: (he has to be dragged to the Speaker's chair)
[9:24] Patroklus Murakami: sonja/pip. can we drag either of you to the chair? please!
[9:24] Brian Livingston: Hmm, but alas, I'll do it to keep the meeting movign if so requested
[9:24] Pip Torok: sonja?
[9:24] Patroklus Murakami: ty brian!
[9:24] Brian Livingston has a busy day and needs to get a moving :p
[9:25] Brian Livingston: So, hmm, it's been a while since i've chaired...
[9:25] Sonja Strom: I will do it to get the discussion started.
[9:25] Gwyneth Llewelyn: goodie, I second brian as pro-tem LRA
[9:25] Gwyneth Llewelyn: ah
[9:25] Gwyneth Llewelyn: lol
[9:25] Pip Torok: great!
[9:25] Patroklus Murakami: we have a motion to make brian leader pro-tem. we should vote on that?
[9:26] Sonja Strom: yes
[9:26] Patroklus Murakami is unsure of new rules
[9:26] Pip Torok: i vote aye
[9:26] Gwyneth Llewelyn: aye
[9:26] Patroklus Murakami: i vote aye
[9:26] Brian Livingston: abstain :p
[9:26] Sonja Strom: aye
[9:26] Gwyneth Llewelyn: :)
[9:26] Brian Livingston: Ok then...
[9:26] Patroklus Murakami: gratz bri :) you're it!
[9:26] Brian Livingston: Could everone assent to this meeting and their remarks being recorded and published as a matter of public record?
[9:26] Sonja Strom: We out-voted you Brian.
[9:26] Patroklus Murakami: i assent
[9:26] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I consent to being recorded.
[9:26] Sonja Strom: I assent
[9:26] Pip Torok: i consent to be recorded
[9:27] Brian Livingston: Sure, I consent as well :)
[9:27] Brian Livingston: Ok, the agenda is located on the forums here: http://forums.slcds.info/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2493
[9:27] Pip Torok: i have an agenda copy if anyone wants it
[9:27] Brian Livingston: are there any other changes, besides the LRA's corretion of a typographical error on item III
[9:27] Brian Livingston: ?
[9:28] Pip Torok: nope
[9:28] Brian Livingston looks around the room
[9:28] Patroklus Murakami: no
[9:28] Brian Livingston: Ok then, I'm proposign we accept this agenda and continue the meeting, second?
[9:28] Patroklus Murakami: second
[9:28] Pip Torok: seconded
[9:28] Brian Livingston: Votes please?
[9:28] Sonja Strom: aye
[9:28] Patroklus Murakami: aye
[9:28] Pip Torok: aye
[9:29] Brian Livingston: Gwyn?
[9:29] Brian Livingston votes aye
[9:29] Gwyneth Llewelyn: aye
[9:29] Brian Livingston: Wonderful, 5-0. Next item...
[9:29] Brian Livingston: Do we have any speakers for any items on torday's agenda?
[9:30] Rose Springvale: i'm just here to make an announcment about the party....
[9:30] Brian Livingston: Noted :)
[9:30] Brian Livingston: Ok then, moving along. Item d is moot at this point, as this is the last session of this RA.
[9:30] Brian Livingston: err, last meeting of the term of this RA
[9:31] Gwyneth Llewelyn: mm hmm
[9:31] Brian Livingston: Regarding item e, 7 day votes, I haven't seen any request, but the LRA may have gotten a request from Cindy, so I am goign to have to defer to him upon his return
[9:31] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Uh... wait-..
[9:31] Gwyneth Llewelyn *scratches head*
[9:31] Brian Livingston waits
[9:31] Gwyneth Llewelyn: No, sorry, you're right
[9:31] Brian Livingston: We're good ? :)
[9:32] Gwyneth Llewelyn: our voting dates are soooo confusing, but I guess the 26th would be the first session of the *next* term
[9:32] Patroklus Murakami: aah no. next RA does not get sworn in until august gwyn :)
[9:32] Gwyneth Llewelyn: in that case,
[9:32] Gwyneth Llewelyn: we can meet on the 26th
[9:33] Brian Livingston: Hmm, so I guess there is the possibility of anther RA session. Traditioanlly we haven't met as a lame duck session however
[9:33] Gwyneth Llewelyn: True
[9:33] Gwyneth Llewelyn: well, we can discuss it hehe
[9:33] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I'm fine with skipping it
[9:33] Sonja Strom: me too
[9:33] Rose Springvale: sorry all, have to go to rl. see you later!
[9:34] Brian Livingston: I would suggest not planning on the lame duck session unless there is an extraordinary event that requires RA attention immediately
[9:34] Sonja Strom: ok Rose
[9:34] Brian Livingston: Thoughts?
[9:34] Pip Torok: agree
[9:34] Sonja Strom: agree
[9:34] You decline Episode Beach from A group member named Dominick Manatiso.
[9:34] Gwyneth Llewelyn agreess to
[9:34] Brian Livingston: Pat?
[9:35] Patroklus Murakami: agree
[9:35] Brian Livingston: Ok, let's move on. I don't see the Chancellor present, so I propose postponing Item II
[9:35] Pip Torok: seconded
[9:35] Brian Livingston: Votes?
[9:35] Sonja Strom: aye
[9:35] Pip Torok: aye
[9:35] Gwyneth Llewelyn: one second please
[9:36] Patroklus Murakami: mmm. we don't need jamie here to discuss the AA merger
[9:36] Patroklus Murakami: and progress on that
[9:36] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Yes...
[9:36] Gwyneth Llewelyn *scratches head*
[9:36] Gwyneth Llewelyn: well
[9:36] Brian Livingston: True, but item II is the Chancellor's report. We could discus the AA merger during item III or IV for that matter
[9:36] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I understand that point II is to discuss the *report*
[9:36] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Right
[9:37] Patroklus Murakami: brb phone
[9:37] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Sorry, Brian, I think you're right.
[9:37] Gwyneth Llewelyn: so, no chancellor, no report... :)
[9:37] Gwyneth Llewelyn votes aye to postpone as well.
[9:37] Pip Torok: aye
[9:37] Brian Livingston votes aye
[9:38] Brian Livingston: Pat?
[9:38] Patroklus Murakami: aye
[9:38] Patroklus Murakami: afk :)
[9:38] Brian Livingston: Ok, moving along to Item III: genearl Master Plan. We're slated for general discussion until 9:50a.
[9:39] Brian Livingston: Are there any speakers for this item?
[9:39] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Hmpf
[9:39] Brian Livingston: Err, General*
[9:39] Sonja Strom: I would like to speak on this item.
[9:39] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ok, Sonja!
[9:39] Brian Livingston: The floor is yours Sonja
[9:39] Gwyneth Llewelyn: well, you're RA — hyou can always speak hehe
[9:39] Brian Livingston: True :)
[9:40] Sonja Strom: Quite some time ago a Workgroup was formed in the Guild to come up with a revision of the General Master Plan.
[9:40] Sonja Strom: I was a member of this Workgroup.
[9:40] Gwyneth Llewelyn: uh-huh
[9:40] Sonja Strom: We had a series of meetings and a pretty big discussion in the CDS Forum.
[9:41] Sonja Strom: A lot of work was put into making various maps and plans, and comparing them as possibilities.
[9:42] Sonja Strom: I feel the Workgroup was able to bring all this together into a really positive possible revision of the General Master Plan.
[9:42] Sonja Strom: This happened somewhere around two months ago.
[9:42] Sonja Strom: But then, so far as I know, nothing more was done with it.
[9:43] Sonja Strom: The General Master Plan has not been revised at all from this work,
[9:43] Gwyneth Llewelyn: The NG hasn't met in over a month, right?
[9:43] Gwyneth Llewelyn *nods*
[9:43] Sonja Strom: right Gwyn, thanks :-)
[9:43] Brian Livingston: It seemed from the last forum thread on the subject that there was still work to be completed regardign terrain, unless I misread the post
[9:44] Brian Livingston: http://forums.slcds.info/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=2403
[9:44] Sonja Strom: and so far as I know there has not any movement in a direction of actually incorporating any of this work into the Plan.
[9:44] Sonja Strom: Thanks
[9:45] Brian Livingston: So, what is our proposed method of recitfyign hte situation? Reach out to the NG and request an update regardign the status of the GMP updates?
[9:45] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Definitely, the work should not be wasted.
[9:45] Pip Torok: unless we know that work is completed regarding terrain we cant very well endorse it
[9:45] Brian Livingston: Agreed Pip, Gwyn.
[9:45] Sonja Strom: What terrain work needs to be done?
[9:46] Pip Torok: can i suggest sonja looks over the transcript and come up with a recommendation to endorse?
[9:46] Sonja Strom: ok, I will read through it ;-)
[9:47] Brian Livingston: Unfortuantely i'm not a member of the GMP WG so I am nto tthat familiar with the workload and tasks yet to be completed. It appears from the last post that the overall GMP terrain needs to be reviewed, but again, I'm not 100% sure on that interpretation/
[9:47] Brian Livingston: Thanks Sonja ;)
[9:48] Brian Livingston: Hmm, are there any other discussion points to be raised in regards to Item III, the General Master Plan?
[9:48] Patroklus Murakami: AA merger?
[9:48] Pip Torok: i take it the latest version incorportaes Monastery and option 2? of the AA merger?
[9:49] Gwyneth Llewelyn: mmmh
[9:49] Gwyneth Llewelyn: the last time I saw the GMP, it didn't
[9:49] Gwyneth Llewelyn: well
[9:49] Gwyneth Llewelyn: the Monastery was 'suggested' right?
[9:50] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Also... *how* will the AA sims fit? I didn't read the forums so I don't know when and where gthat will happen :)
[9:50] Pip Torok: so if we dont know these we cant yet even tjink about endorsing!
[9:50] Patroklus Murakami: i think the AA sims will be relocated near us in due course (and perhaps we have to move the whole estate to accommodate that?)
[9:50] Sonja Strom: Hi zaphod :-)
[9:51] zaphod Enoch: hi there
[9:51] Brian Livingston: They're being combined to the north of CN, at some point after the election, not sure on the date.
[9:51] Gwyneth Llewelyn: hello zaphod!
[9:51] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ok, Brian, thank you
[9:51] Brian Livingston: Hiya zaphod, please consent to your remarks being recorded and published as part of the public record of this meeting :)
[9:51] Pip Torok: but until we know the proposed fit .. how can we endorse the present GMP?
[9:52] Gwyneth Llewelyn *shrugs*
[9:52] Gwyneth Llewelyn looks at Sonja's forum post
[9:52] Patroklus Murakami: i thought the RA had already approved three possible options for the relocation of AA? wasn't the final decision down to them?
[9:52] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Yes, down to them
[9:52] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Thus my question
[9:53] Brian Livingston: I think we need to consult with the NG regarding incorporating the AA merger into the GMP.
[9:53] Patroklus Murakami: don't know if we've heard a decision from AA though...
[9:53] Pip Torok: agree
[9:53] Gwyneth Llewelyn: That is, I'm not sure if the RA was ever told what the final decision was
[9:53] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Perhaps that was for the Chancellor report today :)
[9:53] Pip Torok: i definitely remember nothing from them to the RA
[9:53] Gwyneth Llewelyn: But Brian, you're right too
[9:54] Gwyneth Llewelyn: The *new* layhout should be updated on the official GMP
[9:54] Gwyneth Llewelyn: *layout
[9:54] Brian Livingston: I thoguht I recall something in the forums, but not positive.
[9:55] Sonja Strom: The final location for the AA sims was decided by AA and told to us in their Letter of Acceptance.
[9:55] Sonja Strom: The RA left the decision to them...
[9:55] Gwyneth Llewelyn: ah
[9:55] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ok thanks, Sonja :)
[9:55] Gwyneth Llewelyn: so that's settled then? Good!
[9:55] Sonja Strom: and they chose option #2, that is having the southernmost AA sim -
[9:55] Sonja Strom: the one with the libraries on it -
[9:55] Pip Torok: fort the record what WAS their decision?
[9:56] Pip Torok: right! ...
[9:56] Sonja Strom: come in on the north side of Colonia Nova.
[9:56] Patroklus Murakami: i asked rose, before she went, how many new citizens would be joining us and how many RA reps that would make...
[9:56] Gwyneth Llewelyn: hehe thanks for asking that, Pip — I remember seeing Jamie's post, but besides 'acceptance', I don't remember
[9:56] Brian Livingston: Either way, we are past the tiem frame for this discussion item, so I would propose that we reach out to the NG to request an update on the status of the GMP and the positioning of AA in the plan.
[9:56] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Sonja: and in which configuration?
[9:56] Patroklus Murakami: depending on the final count, it could be 50 or 60 or more new citizens. and 5/6 new RA reps
[9:56] Gwyneth Llewelyn: You're right Brian
[9:57] zaphod Enoch: may i ask what gmp is
[9:57] Gwyneth Llewelyn: General Master Plan
[9:57] Pip Torok: general master plan
[9:57] zaphod Enoch: okay
[9:57] zaphod Enoch: thanks
[9:57] Brian Livingston: General Master Plan, it is the blue print for future expansion for our community
[9:57] Sonja Strom: Gwyneth, did I answer your question about the configuration?
[9:57] Gwyneth Llewelyn: That's the official 'expansion' map for the CDS
[9:57] Pip Torok: you did
[9:58] Brian Livingston: Thoughts on my proposed actions?
[9:58] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Barely, Sonja, but I'm sure that when the Guild publishes the updated map, we'll know how it will look like :)
[9:58] zaphod Enoch: the ones i could see down in the sandbox ?
[9:58] Pip Torok: yes xaphod
[9:58] Sonja Strom: There are 3d maps in the sandbox...
[9:58] zaphod Enoch: thanks
[9:58] Sonja Strom: The option that was chosen is the middle one there in the display,
[9:59] Sonja Strom: Option #2.
[9:59] zaphod Enoch: okay
[9:59] Brian Livingston: If there are no objections, I move to consult with the NG regarding the status of the GMP and the addition of AA's positioning into the final plan, and continue on to Discussion point IV
[9:59] Gwyneth Llewelyn: oh, that helps too, Sonja!
[9:59] zaphod Enoch: i have examined them
[9:59] Pip Torok: seconded
[9:59] Gwyneth Llewelyn: thank you brian, I agree — 'aye' on the motion
[9:59] Sonja Strom: Yes, I have not yet had time to read all the way through that transcript.
[9:59] Patroklus Murakami: aye
[9:59] Pip Torok: aye
[9:59] Sonja Strom: aye
[9:59] Brian Livingston: Aye
[10:00] Brian Livingston: COntinuing to Point IV, Economic Development, I'll open the floor to discussion for the alloted tiem period :)
[10:00] Patroklus Murakami: can we stick with AA though as a topic?
[10:01] Brian Livingston: If we are concerning the discussion with economic development ,I don't see an problem with discussing AA
[10:01] Patroklus Murakami: i've updated with what i know about the political situation. number of new citizens, RA reps. does anyone else have any news on the merger?
[10:01] Gwyneth Llewelyn would naturally second that :)
[10:01] Gwyneth Llewelyn: a pity Rose had to leave
[10:01] Patroklus Murakami: ty gwyn, brian :)
[10:01] Pip Torok: hi Soro!
[10:01] Sonja Strom: Hi Soro
[10:01] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Soro!!! welcome! :)
[10:01] Brian Livingston: Pat, I believe that the Chancellor is the natural avenue for answers on that question, we should request a written report given his absence today and point hat as a question for the report
[10:01] Patroklus Murakami: hi soro
[10:01] Soro Dagostino: sorry -- 'puter problems.
[10:02] Brian Livingston: Hello Mr. LRA!
[10:02] Soro Dagostino: I hope you had a great meeting
[10:02] Brian Livingston tosses the scepter and LRA crown to Soro :)
[10:02] Gwyneth Llewelyn: You're here, and that's what counts :)
[10:02] Patroklus Murakami: i agree brian. but, since jamie isn't here to tell us anything, does anyone else have news?
[10:02] Pip Torok: (lol)
[10:02] Sonja Strom: I have something more about the last item.
[10:02] zaphod Enoch: may i ask what lra is ?
[10:02] Brian Livingston: Leader of the Representative Assembly
[10:03] zaphod Enoch: okie thanks
[10:03] Pip Torok: leader of the representatives assebly
[10:03] Soro Dagostino: More the referree
[10:03] Soro Dagostino: Keeping order . . .
[10:03] Gwyneth Llewelyn: :)
[10:03] Soro Dagostino: And keeping folk in turn
[10:03] zaphod Enoch: okay now i know thanks soro
[10:03] Pip Torok: (sort of traffic-cop)
[10:03] Brian Livingston: I'll remind the assembly that discussions durign this point should be regarding economic development, regardless of the subject or region we are discussing.
[10:03] Sonja Strom: I found the acceptance letter from Al Andalus in the second post here: http://forums.slcds.info/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=2448
[10:03] Sonja Strom: In that letter their choice is given in their point Nr. 2.
[10:04] Gwyneth Llewelyn: ah excellent Sonja... I had missed the *choice*
[10:04] Brian Livingston: Thanks for the update Sonja :) The link cleares up some prior questions :)
[10:04] Gwyneth Llewelyn: thank you !
[10:04] Gwyneth Llewelyn: it does :)
[10:05] Pip Torok: wd it be possible for us to endorse the GMP then?
[10:05] Soro Dagostino: Since I have no transcrip log -- can someone tell me where the body is?
[10:05] Soro Dagostino: Agenda wise.
[10:05] Pip Torok: item III open discussion
[10:05] Soro Dagostino: TY
[10:05] Brian Livingston: We're on discussion point IV, CDS Economic Development, althoguh we are clsoing in on the end of the alloted tiem for such discussion
[10:06] Patroklus Murakami: i propose that this item be a general news sharing and discussion item regarding the AA merger given that we don't have jamie to upated us under item II
[10:06] Sonja Strom: I would like to bring up something in this area.
[10:06] Patroklus Murakami: and that we extend the discussion time, if needs be
[10:06] Brian Livingston: Either way, we have exceeded the time alloted for points III and IV combined and then some.
[10:06] Gwyneth Llewelyn: hehe true... mmmh
[10:06] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I'd still like to hear any further news on AA
[10:07] Patroklus Murakami: i don't see anyone here for items V or VI....
[10:07] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Besides 'rumours'. For instance, yesterday I was presented to Stui and someone mentioned he'd be one of the appointed representatives. It would be nice to 'show them the ropes' so to speak
[10:07] Brian Livingston: If there is news to be reported, sure, but without the Chancellor or the EO or AA, or a rep from the NG, I don't see much new news persay.
[10:07] Patroklus Murakami: i'd like to hear from sonja...
[10:08] Pip Torok: maybe the AA reps will all come tonights party ...?
[10:08] Brian Livingston: Sonja?
[10:08] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I hope they will
[10:08] Sonja Strom: Thank you.
[10:09] Sonja Strom: A couple of weeks ago I sent a notecard to our Chancellor about an offer being made to the CDS by MunichSL.
[10:09] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Hmm... I have a stupid idea... what about turning the July 26th meeting into a 'welcome AA reps' event? We wouldn't discuss anything, just tell them *how* we discuss things, show them the rules for discussion, etc
[10:09] Gwyneth Llewelyn: (sorry — I type too slowly...)
[10:09] Sonja Strom: He told me he would talk about it with the RA today, but he is not here...
[10:09] Sonja Strom: Gwyneth, can we talk about that after this?
[10:10] Gwyneth Llewelyn: my apologies, yes, of course
[10:10] Pip Torok: an idea gwyn ... how about an "adopt-an-AA-rep strategy?
[10:10] You decline Cuddlers Cove Beach Club , Glen Island Beach (217, 241, 22) from A group member named Mike00 Carnell.
[10:10] Brian Livingston: Sonja has the floor :)
[10:10] Sonja Strom: Pip, could we talk about that in a few minutes?
[10:10] Pip Torok: ok
[10:11] Soro Dagostino: I see you don't need me as a gate keeper! LOL
[10:11] Sonja Strom: The offer that was made was for the CDS to have a consulate exchange with Munich in SL.
[10:11] Sonja Strom: MunichSL is a 3d model of RL Munich, so their buildings are like the RL ones.
[10:11] Sonja Strom: They are offering us a very nice spot there,
[10:12] Sonja Strom: and would like to have a Consulate in Neufreistadt.
[10:12] Soro Dagostino: Who would be the consulate person
[10:12] Sonja Strom: These would basically be information centers.
[10:12] Soro Dagostino: Isn't that a Chancellor's job
[10:13] Sonja Strom: zaphod is involved in their community as well as ours, and he has offered to help with this...
[10:13] Soro Dagostino: Like was done at the last exhibition
[10:13] Sonja Strom: he has started work on a new building for it.
[10:13] Patroklus Murakami: sounds good. great collaboration :) probably for the chancellor to take forward as soro suggests
[10:13] Sonja Strom: I am very much in favour of this effort, and would like to see it go forward.
[10:13] Pip Torok: agree
[10:13] Sonja Strom: I gave this information to the Chancellor two weeks ago,
[10:14] zaphod Enoch: may i say something to that
[10:14] Soro Dagostino: You have the floor
[10:14] Sonja Strom: and he told me he would talk with us here in the RA at this meeting, and asked that zaphod be here for our discussion.
[10:14] zaphod Enoch: about my ideas
[10:14] Sonja Strom: But, unfortunately, Jamie is not here so I am bringing it up.
[10:14] Sonja Strom: Thank you.
[10:15] zaphod Enoch: is it my word now
[10:15] zaphod Enoch: ?
[10:15] Soro Dagostino: Yes.
[10:15] zaphod Enoch: thanks
[10:17] zaphod Enoch: as a citizien of munich sl and a resident of the sl i like spots as yours and munich, because the people in both worlds share the same ides of creating worlds and the first time i set my virtual foot on nfs i was really excited
[10:17] zaphod Enoch: this a sim i like very much because they are my world
[10:19] zaphod Enoch: after i had got in contact with sonja and rose and got the possibility to change the interieur of the biergarten, with the allowance of moon and all the others i thought it would be a good idea to have kinda gateway between the sims
[10:20] zaphod Enoch: so i just made the offer after i have spoken to the munich owner
[10:20] Soro Dagostino: who is?
[10:21] zaphod Enoch: if so to speak i do belong to the iner circle of the town representatives, where the owner is Lislo Mensing
[10:21] Soro Dagostino: ty
[10:23] zaphod Enoch: the others responsible for the town are Ralfi Beaumont a one for almost everything, Annabella Biedermann organising the big events, Soscho Aeon buildings and there textures, and me doing the events and some smaller buildings
[10:25] zaphod Enoch: so i thought it would be a good idea to give people the chance to exchange within the neufreistadt sims and the munich (muenchen) sl sim
[10:25] Gwyneth Llewelyn *nods*
[10:25] Patroklus Murakami: i propose that we ask the Chancellor to get in touch with zaphod at his earliest convenient time
[10:25] zaphod Enoch: finished for now
[10:25] Pip Torok: seconded
[10:25] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I certainly agree!
[10:25] Sonja Strom: Thanks zaphod.
[10:26] Patroklus Murakami: yes, ty zaphod
[10:26] Soro Dagostino: TY zaphod.
[10:26] zaphod Enoch: thanks gwyneth
[10:26] Sonja Strom: Does the RA support having this exchange of Consulates?
[10:26] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Most definitely, I do :))
[10:26] zaphod Enoch: and thanks for all the support so far
[10:26] Pip Torok: i so move
[10:26] Gwyneth Llewelyn: If that's a motion, Sonja, I second it!
[10:27] Sonja Strom: It seems to me we can simply state our preference and intention.
[10:27] Sonja Strom: I support it fully.
[10:27] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I support it fully as well.
[10:27] zaphod Enoch: thanks sonja
[10:28] Gwyneth Llewelyn: (and yes, I've been to SL Munich, mostly to watch the architecture ;) )
[10:28] Patroklus Murakami: i support an exchange of consulates, as an individual citizen, but i think it's up to the Exec branch to deal with :)
[10:28] Sonja Strom: Is there any RA member who has reservations about it?
[10:28] Brian Livingston: I'd be interested in seeign the proposal before really comittign either way
[10:28] Soro Dagostino: I agree with Pat and Brian.
[10:28] Patroklus Murakami: and i have every confidence that jamie will attend to this as soon as he is able to
[10:28] Sonja Strom: Patroklus, I agree with you, but our Executive told me he wanted to bring this topic to the RA today.
[10:28] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Yes, very likely. It might also be a model for further consulates....
[10:28] Pip Torok: just one ... can we request the visiting consulates to respect the theme of the sim in which the consulate resides?
[10:29] Sonja Strom: Then he himself did not come, but zaphod did...
[10:29] Gwyneth Llewelyn: ah, good point, Pip
[10:29] Gwyneth Llewelyn: again, preserving the theme (and noting exceptions) is up to the Exec...
[10:29] Sonja Strom: The building being made for this consulate by zaphod is in the sandbox on CN if you would like to see it.
[10:29] Soro Dagostino: I think we need his thoughts and analysis.
[10:29] Sonja Strom: It is a fachwerk house.
[10:30] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Oh.... nice lol
[10:30] Patroklus Murakami: it's a shame jamie couldn't be here but... he may have had difficulties logging in. lots of ppl have had today
[10:30] Pip Torok: yes ... but a delicate inter-regional matter dont you think?
[10:30] Soro Dagostino: I did.
[10:30] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I don't foresee any problems with SLMunich hehe
[10:30] Brian Livingston: But do they have a football club?
[10:30] Brian Livingston: ;)
[10:30] zaphod Enoch: i do have the full responsibility of the owner to talk here for munich sl
[10:30] Soro Dagostino: I do not either. But, I think we need to hear the Chancellor.
[10:30] Patroklus Murakami: LOL! i should hope so brian
[10:31] Pip Torok: mmm a fachwek on the CN sandbox?
[10:31] zaphod Enoch: nope we do noot have
[10:31] Gwyneth Llewelyn: hehe
[10:31] Gwyneth Llewelyn would like to ask how the football league is doing, but, alas, that would be part of the Chancellor report, not up to the RA to look into it ;)
[10:31] Sonja Strom: I would like to make it clear I am not saying anything at all bad about our Chancellor, only that he told me he wanted to bring this issue up here and asked that zaphod be here for the discussion, and now he is not here so I am bringing it up for him.
[10:32] Soro Dagostino: Gwyn & Sonja -- would you put the topic on the forums and ask for a response from the chancellor?
[10:32] Brian Livingston: Folks, it is 10:30 and I must take my leave (really tight schedule today).
[10:32] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I understand, Sonja. My point was just manifesting interest. I understand that the Executive will deal with the details. But we could today strictly forbid — or encourage — the Chancellor to go ahead
[10:32] Soro Dagostino: Post something about the discussions and lets read them before we take action
[10:33] Brian Livingston: One quick point: Rose asked me to remind everyone of the "Meet the Candidates" party taking place in LA today at noon!
[10:33] Gwyneth Llewelyn: yes :)
[10:33] Sonja Strom: It seems to me we could simply say what our feeling about this is,
[10:33] Patroklus Murakami hopes to be there
[10:33] zaphod Enoch: on the other hand i am about to design your building in munich, means the place you will have there because munich is build as the real munich so there is no chance to build anything new
[10:33] Soro Dagostino: Is there any further business before the Body?
[10:33] Sonja Strom: which would take about 45 seconds, and most of us have.
[10:33] zaphod Enoch: you will reside in a building which exists real in munich sl
[10:33] Sonja Strom: Maybe I should make it an official bill...
[10:34] Sonja Strom: a clear yes or no.
[10:34] Soro Dagostino: I think we need the chancellor's input before RA can consider all the details.
[10:34] Brian Livingston: Agreed, Soro.
[10:34] Pip Torok: agreed
[10:34] Sonja Strom: ok
[10:35] Gwyneth Llewelyn: My feeling is that we can talk about our feelings, with or without the chancellor ;)
[10:35] Gwyneth Llewelyn: hehe
[10:35] Soro Dagostino: As a point, please know I am in support of the proposition -- but I want the Chancellor's input.
[10:35] Gwyneth Llewelyn: And in this case, I'm personally all for it — leaving, of course, the details for the Exec to figure out.
[10:35] Pip Torok: certainly gwyn but his impurt wd be valuable imho
[10:35] zaphod Enoch: well i do not have a hurry
[10:35] Soro Dagostino: Good.
[10:36] Soro Dagostino: Let's build a fire under Jamie.
[10:36] Sonja Strom laughs
[10:36] Patroklus Murakami: indeed gwyn :) we don't *need* the chancellor's input in order to reach a decision but, this is within the Exec branch perview so, i'd like the Chancellor to take it forward
[10:36] Soro Dagostino: Make him do the hurrying
[10:36] Sonja Strom: For now we can move on to the next topic I think.
[10:36] Soro Dagostino: Are there more?
[10:36] Sonja Strom: Thank you everybody.
[10:37] Brian Livingston: The last point was SC interviews, but there are no candidates before us
[10:37] Gwyneth Llewelyn: *sigh*
[10:37] Soro Dagostino: From what I can see -- we have reached the end of the Agenda.
[10:37] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Can we somehow talk to Claude about this?
[10:38] Patroklus Murakami: who were the latest candidates?
[10:38] Gwyneth Llewelyn: The issue he wishes to bring up is pertinent
[10:38] Pip Torok: agree gwyn
[10:38] Soro Dagostino: Delia
[10:38] Soro Dagostino: Stanton
[10:38] Soro Dagostino: They were here last week.
[10:38] Patroklus Murakami: ty soro :)
[10:38] Gwyneth Llewelyn *nods*
[10:38] Pip Torok: and getting more pertinent each week ... :|
[10:38] Patroklus Murakami: they were? when we didn't have a meeting?
[10:38] Soro Dagostino: No . . . week before.
[10:39] Patroklus Murakami: ah, i see :)
[10:39] Soro Dagostino: Last RA Session.
[10:39] Soro Dagostino: Last RA Session.
[10:39] Soro Dagostino: SC had not met -- I think.
[10:39] Soro Dagostino: And Claude didn't make the announcement by then
[10:39] Patroklus Murakami: (Stanton or Danton?)

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