As per the Board Meeting of the NG on August 23, 2011, this thread is to continue the discussion about the NG Mission Statement.
The discussion at the meeting transcript (fragment of the entire meeting):
[2011/08/23 08:41] Rosie Gray: now, onto item one
[2011/08/23 08:42] Rosie Gray: here is the link: http://newguild.slcds.info/the-new-guild-charter/
[2011/08/23 08:42] Rosie Gray: Mission of the Guild is item 2 on that page
[2011/08/23 08:42] Rosie Gray: 1.To organize, plan, and execute the construction of new high-quality content including the development of territory and sims, build sim infrastructure and public buildings. To execute work contracted by the CDS to its specifications consistent with the legislation, master plan, and other regulations of the CDS.To also cooperate in projects with other entities.
[2011/08/23 08:42] Rosie Gray: first part of the Mission states the above
[2011/08/23 08:43] Rosie Gray: 2.To provide continuing hands-on education in the creation of content, as well in related areas. This education shall be free to all citizens, and may be made available to non-citizens willing to pay tuition.
[2011/08/23 08:43] Rosie Gray: 3.To provide certification in content-creation skills to the CDS Citizens.
[2011/08/23 08:43] Rosie Gray: 4.To provide technical advice and services to the office of the Chancellor and the RA as needed to plan, maintain and develop the CDS regions.
[2011/08/23 08:43] Rosie Gray: 5.To acquire and manage resources needed by New Guild volunteers for building and design such as sandbox areas and prim banks. To set rules for the use of these resources.
[2011/08/23 08:44] Trebor Warcliffe: A very ambitious mission indeed.
[2011/08/23 08:44] Guillaume Mistwalker: Rather, yes.
[2011/08/23 08:44] Rosie Gray: Can we have some discussion around this Mission statement? I am thinking that it is rather too ambitious for the number of volunteers we have
[2011/08/23 08:44] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me raises hand
[2011/08/23 08:44] josjoha: /me raises hand
[2011/08/23 08:44] Sudane Erato: /me raises hand
[2011/08/23 08:45] Mizou Vavoom: /me raises hand
[2011/08/23 08:45] Rosie Gray: yes CLEO?
[2011/08/23 08:45] Guillaume Mistwalker: /me raises hand.
[2011/08/23 08:45] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: maybe you should ask for more volunteers.
[2011/08/23 08:45] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: first
[2011/08/23 08:45] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: done
[2011/08/23 08:45] Arria Perreault: /me raisoes hands
[2011/08/23 08:45] Rosie Gray: Jos next
[2011/08/23 08:45] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: no response?
[2011/08/23 08:45] josjoha: Since the NG has no competition, and gets jobs by law and such from
[2011/08/23 08:46] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me raises hand
[2011/08/23 08:46] josjoha: theCDS Government, it seems that the NG has the role of a Gov department ?
[2011/08/23 08:46] josjoha: Just an observation, since I heard the NG si supposed to be "private non-gov". done
[2011/08/23 08:46] Rosie Gray: it is not a gov't department though Jos
[2011/08/23 08:46] Rosie Gray: but your observation is noted
[2011/08/23 08:47] Rosie Gray: Sudane?
[2011/08/23 08:47] Sudane Erato: i feel strongly that the statement should not me modified
[2011/08/23 08:47] Sudane Erato: i think that we will not necessarily do everythinbg
[2011/08/23 08:48] Sudane Erato: but having it include more than we can do enables future citizens to go in new directions
[2011/08/23 08:48] Sudane Erato: done
[2011/08/23 08:48] Rosie Gray: that's a good point Sudane, thanks
[2011/08/23 08:48] Rosie Gray: Mizou next
[2011/08/23 08:48] Trebor Warcliffe: agrees
[2011/08/23 08:48] Mizou Vavoom: i agree with Sudane
[2011/08/23 08:48] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: agrees
[2011/08/23 08:48] Mizou Vavoom: The sandbox , would be a good thing to implement soon
[2011/08/23 08:49] josjoha: /me raises hand
[2011/08/23 08:49] Rosie Gray: are you finished Mizou?
[2011/08/23 08:49] Mizou Vavoom: yes
[2011/08/23 08:49] Mizou Vavoom: done
[2011/08/23 08:50] Rosie Gray: okay... well that is another topic I think ㋡
[2011/08/23 08:50] Arria Perreault: me/ has raised hand
[2011/08/23 08:50] Rosie Gray: Arria is next
[2011/08/23 08:50] Arria Perreault: thx
[2011/08/23 08:50] Arria Perreault: I will talk as former Chair of Faculty about this point
[2011/08/23 08:51] Arria Perreault: The Faculty is in charge of all education activities of the NG
[2011/08/23 08:52] Arria Perreault: and also for building approvement
[2011/08/23 08:52] Arria Perreault: despite the fact we have tried to make some activities in the domain of education, it was not very succesfull
[2011/08/23 08:52] Rosie Gray: Arria, we are talking about the Mission statement right now
[2011/08/23 08:52] Arria Perreault: I know
[2011/08/23 08:53] Rosie Gray: please keep to the topic
[2011/08/23 08:53] Arria Perreault: I just question the education mission of the new Guild
[2011/08/23 08:53] Rosie Gray: ah okay
[2011/08/23 08:53] Arria Perreault: should we keep it?
[2011/08/23 08:53] Pip Torok: /me raises hand
[2011/08/23 08:54] Arria Perreault: I think the certification and approval activities are important
[2011/08/23 08:54] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me raises hand
[2011/08/23 08:54] Arria Perreault: in education, we have a lot of competition outside SL and CDS is too small as audience
[2011/08/23 08:54] Arria Perreault: done
[2011/08/23 08:54] Mizou Vavoom: /me raises hand
[2011/08/23 08:54] Rosie Gray: Guillaume is next
[2011/08/23 08:54] Guillaume Mistwalker: I believe it would be right to comment, Mme Secretary, as to how certain parts have never have been or have recently not been implemented. I believe that it would make most sense, Mme Secretary, to rule out certain areas of that mission and focus this organisation's mission on what is required most of it until we have more willing and viable volunteers to this organisation: build, re-build and keep the CDS a constant high-quality group of sims. I must note, too, that Jos is right in his noting that his organisation has governmental responsibilities -- something that should be developed, I think, in the simplification of this organisation. I am sure it would certainly be benefitial to the CDS as a whole to do such. The broad characteristics of the mission certainly make the task of the NG frightening, perhaps detering interested volunteers -- such as myself, even recently. I believe it would make sense to object the education mission -- esp. due to the classrooms. Done; pardon for the length.
[2011/08/23 08:55] Trebor Warcliffe: Raises hand
[2011/08/23 08:55] Rosie Gray: thanks Guillaume, so that is two people questioning the educational aspects of the Mission
[2011/08/23 08:56] Rosie Gray: Cleo is next
[2011/08/23 08:57] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: perhaps i was too succinct , but is there a volunteer coordinator? because in my observation not enough has been done to recruit volunteers.. and that would allow what sudane said and arria that we keep our high goals going and in place. not lower our bar
[2011/08/23 08:57] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: i feel strongly about also that we could coordinate with orgs like BB and maybe by looking elsewhere
[2011/08/23 08:57] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: for volunteers we also simujltaineously will be getting people
[2011/08/23 08:57] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: interesting and interested in being part of CDS
[2011/08/23 08:57] Guillaume Mistwalker: /me raises hand.
[2011/08/23 08:58] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: pershaps we think outside the box a little more
[2011/08/23 08:58] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: done
[2011/08/23 08:58] Rosie Gray: right now there has been no activity at all with the New Guild
[2011/08/23 08:58] Rosie Gray: for quite some time
[2011/08/23 08:58] Rosie Gray: so there is nobody in charge of volunteers or faculty
[2011/08/23 08:58] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: so how od you kow that there are no more voulteers
[2011/08/23 08:59] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: not enough
[2011/08/23 08:59] Rosie Gray: or anything else
[2011/08/23 08:59] Rosie Gray: I was speaking of all of the CDS
[2011/08/23 08:59] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: so why did you say we dont have enough
[2011/08/23 08:59] Mizou Vavoom: /meexcuses herself but she has to leave meeting to take RL bus home. Thanks
[2011/08/23 08:59] Rosie Gray: thanks for coming Mizou
[2011/08/23 08:59] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: bye mizou
[2011/08/23 08:59] josjoha: bye Miz
[2011/08/23 08:59] Ulysse Alexandre: bye Mizou
[2011/08/23 08:59] Mizou Vavoom: bye althanks
[2011/08/23 08:59] Sonja Strom: bye for now Mizou
[2011/08/23 08:59] Second Life: Mizou Vavoom is offline.
[2011/08/23 09:00] josjoha: /me raises hand
[2011/08/23 09:00] Rosie Gray: so, when I said there are very few volunteers, I was actually referring to active citizens of all of the CDS
[2011/08/23 09:00] Rosie Gray: Jos is next
[2011/08/23 09:00] josjoha: (i have a new point tho)
[2011/08/23 09:00] Guillaume Mistwalker: /me nods in agreeing with Rosie.
[2011/08/23 09:00] josjoha: (is that ok ?)
[2011/08/23 09:01] Rosie Gray: yes
[2011/08/23 09:01] Rosie Gray: as long as it is to do withe the Mission statement
[2011/08/23 09:01] josjoha: The NG is in a monopoly position, and I was just thinking that it is one option to divide the NG up into several orgs around parts of the mission statement,
[2011/08/23 09:01] josjoha: you could get some competition then, which is normal for 'private enterprise'
[2011/08/23 09:02] josjoha: if the missions overlap, but
[2011/08/23 09:02] josjoha: it seems doubtful the population is big enough to sustain several private orgs. done
[2011/08/23 09:02] josjoha: ty
[2011/08/23 09:02] Guillaume Mistwalker: /me nods.
[2011/08/23 09:02] Rosie Gray: Trebor
[2011/08/23 09:02] Pip Torok: /me raises hand
[2011/08/23 09:03] Trebor Warcliffe: I'll make this short and sweet becaus eI have to leave after i type
[2011/08/23 09:03] Trebor Warcliffe: In regards to the Mission of the NG
[2011/08/23 09:03] Arria Perreault: /me wants to answer to Jos
[2011/08/23 09:03] Trebor Warcliffe: Yes it is ambitious but
[2011/08/23 09:03] Trebor Warcliffe: it is a noble mission
[2011/08/23 09:04] Trebor Warcliffe: and even though we dont have the population to act on all aspects of that mission
[2011/08/23 09:04] Trebor Warcliffe: doesnt mean we should simplify the mission
[2011/08/23 09:04] Trebor Warcliffe: we work with what we have and try to make it better.
[2011/08/23 09:05] Trebor Warcliffe: As we grow, which is a long process, hopefully more interest will be shown by the citizens for the guild
[2011/08/23 09:05] Trebor Warcliffe: I thank you, I have to leave to go back to rl.
[2011/08/23 09:05] Trebor Warcliffe: Done
[2011/08/23 09:05] Rosie Gray: thanks Trebor
[2011/08/23 09:05] Rosie Gray: bye for now
[2011/08/23 09:05] Second Life: Trebor Warcliffe is offline.
[2011/08/23 09:05] Ulysse Alexandre: bye bye Trebor
[2011/08/23 09:05] Rosie Gray: Pip, you are next
[2011/08/23 09:06] Rosie Gray: are you there Pip?
[2011/08/23 09:06] Rosie Gray: hmmmmm
[2011/08/23 09:06] Pip Torok: just to reinforce trebors point and respectfully oppose jos in splitting up the NG as we wd be "putting the cart before the horse" done
[2011/08/23 09:07] Rosie Gray: okay, thanks Pip
[2011/08/23 09:07] Rosie Gray: has everyone who wants to speak about the Mission Statement been able to address it at least once?
[2011/08/23 09:07] Guillaume Mistwalker: /me raises hand.
[2011/08/23 09:07] josjoha: /me I was only giving a possibility, not one I would necessarily agree with, though it has some logic, ty Pip.
[2011/08/23 09:07] Rosie Gray: lol
[2011/08/23 09:07] Arria Perreault: /me wants to answer to Jos
[2011/08/23 09:08] Rosie Gray: okay, I would like to give my opinion now too
[2011/08/23 09:08] josjoha: /me (assumes that it is OK to answer without raising hand.)
[2011/08/23 09:08] Rosie Gray: I think it is very ambitious , due to the number of active people that we usually have in CDS
[2011/08/23 09:08] Arria Perreault: after Rosie 
[2011/08/23 09:08] Rosie Gray: but I do agree with Sudane and a few others here that we should keep the Mission Statement as it is
[2011/08/23 09:09] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me raises hand
[2011/08/23 09:09] josjoha: /me Arria is waiting
[2011/08/23 09:09] josjoha: (oops sorry Rosie)
[2011/08/23 09:09] Rosie Gray: I just want to recognize that it IS ambitious, and that we are essentially starting with this organization again, building it from the ground up
[2011/08/23 09:09] Rosie Gray: Arria?
[2011/08/23 09:10] Arria Perreault: I just want to tell Jos that the NG has already made two entities: the Faculty and the Board
[2011/08/23 09:11] Arria Perreault: they act separately and the missions are already clearly defined
[2011/08/23 09:11] Arria Perreault: done
[2011/08/23 09:11] Rosie Gray: that's true Arria, but it seems that the Board is just whoever shows up
[2011/08/23 09:11] Rosie Gray: Jos?
[2011/08/23 09:11] josjoha: That's very interesting, I didn't know that ty Arria.
[2011/08/23 09:11] Arria Perreault: ㋡
[2011/08/23 09:12] Guillaume Mistwalker: /me raises hand.
[2011/08/23 09:12] Rosie Gray: are you finished Jos?
[2011/08/23 09:12] josjoha: done
[2011/08/23 09:12] josjoha: ty Rosie
[2011/08/23 09:12] Rosie Gray: Guillaume
[2011/08/23 09:14] Guillaume Mistwalker: I would just like to point out that, from a micronation point of view, it is organisational suicide to keep a mission this large, without the capacity to fulfill it. If it doesn't have the capacity to fulfill its mission, it frightens people away because of the size of the mission. And, it also scares away people who are already in the organisation because they're, essentially, failing their mission, in some respect.
[2011/08/23 09:14] Guillaume Mistwalker: Done.
[2011/08/23 09:14] Rosie Gray: /me nods
[2011/08/23 09:14] josjoha: /me nods
[2011/08/23 09:14] Rosie Gray: well that is a good point Guillaume, and that's why I wanted to raise the whole topic
[2011/08/23 09:15] Rain Ninetails: /me raises hand
[2011/08/23 09:15] Rosie Gray: since we are essentially starting this up again
[2011/08/23 09:15] Rosie Gray: Rain?
[2011/08/23 09:15] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me raises hand again
[2011/08/23 09:15] Rain Ninetails: mm
[2011/08/23 09:15] Sonja Strom: /me *raises hand*
[2011/08/23 09:15] Guillaume Mistwalker: Oh, sorry, just like to point out that I've seen perfectly wonderful organisations -- such as this one -- go under and become inactive because of their mission being too large.
[2011/08/23 09:15] Guillaume Mistwalker: I apologise, Rain.
[2011/08/23 09:16] Rain Ninetails: I wanted to ask, in whagt I saw of the mission statement, the Eduction of creation of Content.
[2011/08/23 09:16] Rain Ninetails: sif here is sometingmore specific?
[2011/08/23 09:16] Rosie Gray: there is not, that I have seen
[2011/08/23 09:17] Rain Ninetails: and maybe some aspectes are more important than others.
[2011/08/23 09:17] Rosie Gray: and I don't believe that the Educational aspect has ever been operational
[2011/08/23 09:17] Rain Ninetails: CDS specific content? or general creating skills ?
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[2011/08/23 09:17] Second Life: punchi (punchinello.philbin) is online.
[2011/08/23 09:17] Rosie Gray: does anyone present know of any time that the educational aspect was active?
[2011/08/23 09:17] Guillaume Mistwalker: /me shakes his head.
[2011/08/23 09:18] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: yes it has been when we built sims
[2011/08/23 09:18] Sudane Erato: a few events were held
[2011/08/23 09:18] Sonja Strom: yes, but mostly they were done by Jon Seattle,
[2011/08/23 09:18] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: mentoring and things like that with building
[2011/08/23 09:18] Rosie Gray: but was there ever a 'school' as such?
[2011/08/23 09:18] Pip Torok: none except that Jon on one occasion offered his skills to teach
[2011/08/23 09:18] Rosie Gray: okay, mentoring
[2011/08/23 09:18] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: but they have been done, yes
[2011/08/23 09:18] Sonja Strom: a few by Brian Livingstone.
[2011/08/23 09:18] Oskar Eddenbaum: Big Prims - LL has enabled Mesh and BIG prims grid wide. That means we can now use Mesh (sculpties but better and you need next viewer for it) and we can ALL make prims that are 60x60x60 meters big, compared to the old 10x10x10 prims. In the coming days I will be rebuilding part of Berlin (you won't notice much) and with some luck this will free up a bunch of prims for us to play with.
[2011/08/23 09:18] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: yes but its been a while ago sudane would remember and arria
[2011/08/23 09:18] Sonja Strom: Neither of them have done that for years now.
[2011/08/23 09:18] Rosie Gray: okay, so it is a long time ago
[2011/08/23 09:19] Rain Ninetails: or if any one else is showing how to do CDS specific content?
[2011/08/23 09:19] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: i do have a question , raising hand.
[2011/08/23 09:19] Rosie Gray: are you done rain?
[2011/08/23 09:19] Rain Ninetails: done 
[2011/08/23 09:19] Rosie Gray: okay, Cleo is next
[2011/08/23 09:20] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: I am sorry to say I do not know how to say this
[2011/08/23 09:20] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: but rosie, how do you justify
[2011/08/23 09:20] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: i mean are you goign to do both the RA and lead the guild
[2011/08/23 09:20] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: and if so,
[2011/08/23 09:20] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: how then can we know that your desire to lower the bar of the guild
[2011/08/23 09:20] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: is unrlated to you personally feeling overwhelmed
[2011/08/23 09:20] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: sand not that the guild with a sole leader could handle this large mission.
[2011/08/23 09:20] Rosie Gray: you are out of order here Cleo, we are talking about the Mission Statement
[2011/08/23 09:21] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: it is due to the mission
[2011/08/23 09:21] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: directly i am sorry
[2011/08/23 09:21] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: you are wanting to lower the mission
[2011/08/23 09:21] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: and it is my quesiton if that is related to you personally feeling overwhelmed
[2011/08/23 09:21] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: it is directly related
[2011/08/23 09:21] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: i am not out of line. or out of subject.
[2011/08/23 09:21] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: you might not want to discuss it , but it is related
[2011/08/23 09:21] Rosie Gray: are you finished?
[2011/08/23 09:21] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: no
[2011/08/23 09:22] Guillaume Mistwalker: I believe it makes sense, Cleo, to lower the mission. I believe that Mme Rosie has taken personal offense to even the slightest sense of thinking of herself and not the organisation. I may be out of line, but I find such very disrespectful.
[2011/08/23 09:22] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: done, but i would like the opporuntity to respond and the rules to change so we can. when we ask a question .
[2011/08/23 09:23] Rosie Gray: Cleo, I have never said that I think we should change the Missions Statement
[2011/08/23 09:23] Rosie Gray: I wanted discussion around it, and was pointing out that it was very ambitious for thenumber of active people we have
[2011/08/23 09:23] Rosie Gray: Sonja is next
[2011/08/23 09:23] Sonja Strom: Thank you...
[2011/08/23 09:24] Sonja Strom: Actually I have questions about that topic as well, but yes, we can talk more about it later.
[2011/08/23 09:24] Sonja Strom: What I want to bring up now is,
[2011/08/23 09:24] Sonja Strom: a comment made by Guillaume earlier that I think makes sense.
[2011/08/23 09:24] Sonja Strom: The Guild classrooms up in the sky above us are using prims in Neufreistadt that maybe could be put to more active uses.
[2011/08/23 09:25] Sonja Strom: That said, even if we want to hold classes, they could be given somewhere else.
[2011/08/23 09:25] Sonja Strom: In this room for example, or on another sim in the CDS.
[2011/08/23 09:25] Sonja Strom: Thanks
[2011/08/23 09:25] Rosie Gray: I completely agree with that Sonja
[2011/08/23 09:25] Rosie Gray: they are wasted prims
[2011/08/23 09:26] Rosie Gray: I worry about how we could have an active school without a large sandbox though
[2011/08/23 09:26] Arria Perreault: there is room in LA
[2011/08/23 09:26] Guillaume Mistwalker: /me nods.
[2011/08/23 09:26] Guillaume Mistwalker: Haha.
[2011/08/23 09:26] Rosie Gray: yes there is lol
[2011/08/23 09:26] Sonja Strom: yes , there is
[2011/08/23 09:26] Sudane Erato: there is NOT room in LA if all the parcels are sold
[2011/08/23 09:26] Sonja Strom: true, true...
[2011/08/23 09:27] Rosie Gray: very true
[2011/08/23 09:27] Guillaume Mistwalker: Sad truth is, they aren't.
[2011/08/23 09:27] Rosie Gray: and it is also not set up as a sandbox
[2011/08/23 09:27] Arria Perreault: well ... I had an idea, but it's not for today
[2011/08/23 09:27] Rosie Gray: /me nods
[2011/08/23 09:27] Rosie Gray: I think we can move on to the next topic if everyone has finished about the Mission Statement
[2011/08/23 09:28] Guillaume Mistwalker: /me nods.
[2011/08/23 09:28] Pip Torok: n ods
[2011/08/23 09:28] Rosie Gray: can we all agree to do that?
[2011/08/23 09:28] Sudane Erato: sure
[2011/08/23 09:28] josjoha: raises hand
[2011/08/23 09:28] Rosie Gray: Jos?
[2011/08/23 09:28] josjoha: did we reach real conclusions that can be done ?
[2011/08/23 09:28] josjoha: done
[2011/08/23 09:29] Arria Perreault: (I had the same question)
[2011/08/23 09:29] Rosie Gray: it is my understanding from the general discussion that the majority would like to keep the mission statement the way it is, even though recognizing that it is ambitious
[2011/08/23 09:29] josjoha: Maybe we can have a vote, or does it not work like so ?
[2011/08/23 09:29] Rosie Gray: does anyone wish to make a motion about it?
[2011/08/23 09:30] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: /me moves the mission stays the same
[2011/08/23 09:30] josjoha: /me motion to have a vote on whether the mission statement is ok
[2011/08/23 09:30] Pip Torok: /me agrees and that it is better to pressn rather than query how far we will get
[2011/08/23 09:30] Arria Perreault: second Jos's motion
[2011/08/23 09:30] Sonja Strom: jos, I think we are sort of making this up as we go, hehe
[2011/08/23 09:30] Rosie Gray: doe we have a second for Cleo's Motion?
[2011/08/23 09:30] josjoha: Sonja, lovely
[2011/08/23 09:30] Sonja Strom:
[2011/08/23 09:30] Rosie Gray: Cleo has made a motion
[2011/08/23 09:30] Rosie Gray: to keep the missions statement
[2011/08/23 09:31] Arria Perreault: Jos's motion has asecond
[2011/08/23 09:31] josjoha: /me motion to review this subject again
[2011/08/23 09:31] Arria Perreault: second
[2011/08/23 09:31] Rosie Gray: your motion is to talk about the Missions kStatement again?
[2011/08/23 09:32] Rosie Gray: okay, let us vote on that
[2011/08/23 09:32] josjoha: yes
[2011/08/23 09:32] Arria Perreault: to decide if we change them or not
[2011/08/23 09:32] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: [9:30] josjoha Resident motion to have a vote on whether the mission statement is ok
[2011/08/23 09:32] Rosie Gray: all those in favour of reviewing the Mission Statement again?
[2011/08/23 09:32] josjoha: (sorry i was getting confused on 2 motions)
[2011/08/23 09:32] Pip Torok: nay
[2011/08/23 09:32] josjoha: aye
[2011/08/23 09:33] Arria Perreault: aye
[2011/08/23 09:33] Guillaume Mistwalker: Aye -- I think it must be resolved.
[2011/08/23 09:33] Sonja Strom: aye
[2011/08/23 09:33] Ulysse Alexandre: aye
[2011/08/23 09:33] CLEOPATRA Xigalia: pass
[2011/08/23 09:33] Sudane Erato: aye, but i don't think it needs changing... no harm in talk
[2011/08/23 09:33] Rosie Gray: aye
[2011/08/23 09:34] Rosie Gray: okay, so for the next meeting, we can talk about it some more
[2011/08/23 09:34] Sudane Erato:
[2011/08/23 09:34] Arria Perreault: can we talk in the forums too?
[2011/08/23 09:34] Rosie Gray: Now, for the second point on the Agenda
[2011/08/23 09:34] josjoha: /me previous motion to vote on mission statement withdrawn
[2011/08/23 09:34] Rosie Gray: oh good idea Arria
[2011/08/23 09:34] Rosie Gray: I will start a thread for it
[2011/08/23 09:34] Arria Perreault: thx
[2011/08/23 09:35] Rosie Gray: if everyone can participate there, it would help our discussion ㋡
[2011/08/23 09:35] Rosie Gray: and then when we reconvene we will hopefully have reached some conclusions