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Transcript of Scientific Council meeting Sunday 2 September 2018

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Transcript of Scientific Council meeting Sunday 2 September 2018

Meeting called to order at 1044 SLT

Members present: Dean Lilith Ivory, Soro Dagostino, Callipygian Christensen, RG Cooperstone, Arria Perreault, Aliasi Stonebender

Agenda was approved

New business was discussion about by-election of the vacant RA seat due to the resignation of Bagheera Kristan. Dates for the by-election were confirmed, and there was discussion about the timing of notices.

Election of New Dean and Archivist were tabled until next meeting.

Perreault volunteered to project dates for upcoming elections. Dates have been calculated for the rest of this year.

Old business was continued discussion about replacement of the domain admin for the forum under CDSL 23-04, and change in where the forum is hosted. Cooperstone volunteered to gather hosting information.

Perreault moved to adjourn at 1221 SLT, with second from Christensen. Voted aye unanimously.

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Lilith Ivory: the agenda is behind me in the box
Callipygian Christensen: SL did not want me here today
Lilith Ivory: yes I saw you coming online twice
Lilith Ivory: but I am glad it?s just SL that wanted to hinder you and not problems with your deughter :)
Lilith Ivory: if you have all the agenda can we agree on it?
Soro Dagostino: Move approval of the Agenda.
Aliasi Stonebender: second.
Arria Perreault: aye
Callipygian Christensen: aye
Soro Dagostino: Aye
RogueGeek Cooperstone: Aye
Lilith Ivory: aye
Lilith Ivory: ok so let?s move on
Lilith Ivory: first item at new business is by-election of the vacant RA seat
Lilith Ivory: I think you all have seen the election timeline Calli made and agree with it?
RogueGeek Cooperstone: Yes, and I do.
Lilith Ivory: /me smiles
Soro Dagostino: Raising hand.
Callipygian Christensen: should probably post it here for the transcript
Lilith Ivory: yes Soro?
Soro Dagostino: Please do.
Lilith Ivory: you have a point here Calli :)
Aliasi Stonebender: yeah, I'm still a bit foggy so an official reminder seems good.
Soro Dagostino: I haven't seen it.
Lilith Ivory: I?m a bit stressed atm as tonns of work are waiting for me in RL right now
Soro Dagostino: Posting is enough.
Lilith Ivory: Election timeline:
Call for Candidates - Wed Aug. 29
Nominations close Monday Sept 3 with publication of candidates immediate
Campaigning starts Sept 10
Polls open at Sept 17 and close at Sept 24
Lilith Ivory: I have sent this out at wednesday aug 29th
Lilith Ivory: are we all fine with this timeline?
Aliasi Stonebender: Seems knid of short notice since we're only now approving it, and closing nominations tomorrow...
Callipygian Christensen: The call for nominations went out on time
Aliasi Stonebender: Fair enough.
Arria Perreault: was it posted in the forums ?
RogueGeek Cooperstone: Yes
Lilith Ivory: well this has been part of the email conversation we had before agreeing on this meeting time
Lilith Ivory: asking for approval here again is just for the protocol I?d say
Lilith Ivory: any objections?
Aliasi Stonebender: None here.
Lilith Ivory: I think we should do what we can to get a full RA as soon as possible again :)
RogueGeek Cooperstone: none from me
Lilith Ivory: good
Arria Perreault: none
Soro Dagostino: I yield.
Lilith Ivory: we got one candidate already and I want to thank Lyubov for wanting to join the RA :)
Tanoujin Milestone: yay
Arria Perreault: The most important ist that all people are informed
Rosie Gray: clap clap clap
Arria Perreault: is*
Lilith Ivory: I agree and my call for candidates went out inworl and at the forum in time
Pip Torok: /me belatedly claps
RogueGeek Cooperstone: I think we're covered. It went notice and forum, so we have coverage
Lilith Ivory: but if we get more willing candidates we will need to turn on our election machine and in this case I would ask for volunteers to help me collecting the email adresses
Lilith Ivory: Hi Maryl
Arria Perreault: of course
Lilith Ivory: I think we decide this best already so we are covered in case we need it
Lilith Ivory: there is still time for candidates to send me a note before midnight tomorrow
Lilith Ivory: any volunteer to collect the emails if needed?
Arria Perreault: I can help to collect email adresses
Callipygian Christensen: Usually we send out a reminder of the deadline and should definitely this time - this is a holiday weekend in north america
Lilith Ivory: ok, thank you Arria
Lilith Ivory: ah I see
RogueGeek Cooperstone: I can help too if you need me
Lilith Ivory: thank you Coop
Lilith Ivory: I have some more work to give out while we go through this agenda ;-)
Lilith Ivory: anything else that needs to be discussed about this by-election?
RogueGeek Cooperstone: I'm good
Arria Perreault: none for me
Soro Dagostino: As am I.
Lilith Ivory: Calli?
Callipygian Christensen: nope..I am fine
Lilith Ivory: ok :)
Lilith Ivory: Next item :
Lilith Ivory: election of Dean and SC Archivist
Lilith Ivory: I know this needs to be done once a year and I appologize for missing this aganda item at our last meeting
Lilith Ivory: I would be willing to stay in office but I am aware I have been extremely poor with holding meetings ..
Soro Dagostino: Raises hand.
Aliasi Stonebender: Yeah, no bad intent, but when I have to search my email and forums to remind myself when the LAST meeting was...
Lilith Ivory: and also I didn?t have success finding a qualified and willing replacement for the forum adminisrator so far
Lilith Ivory: (having the transcript of the last meeting posted would be helpful finding it again)
Lilith Ivory: so if one thinks to have more time for this office I woujld gladly step back as dean
Arria Perreault: :-)
Lilith Ivory: I would ask my fellow SC members to consider it and let us know till the next meeting with I do plan to have next month!
Lilith Ivory: not next year ;-)
Lilith Ivory: done
Lilith Ivory: any comments or questin?
Callipygian Christensen: Soro had his hand raised
Lilith Ivory: oh yes sorry
Lilith Ivory: Soro?
Soro Dagostino: Yield.
RogueGeek Cooperstone: Hand
Lilith Ivory: Coop?
RogueGeek Cooperstone: I'll be willing to be considered for Dean
RogueGeek Cooperstone: That's it
Lilith Ivory: are you fine with waiting till next meeting or do you want to vote now?
Soro Dagostino: Well, that is what I was going to move on.
Soro Dagostino: And yielded.
RogueGeek Cooperstone: Either way.
Soro Dagostino: Let's give time to honor Lilith for her effort.
Callipygian Christensen: well, to be correct I think it needs to wait til next meeting unless everyone is stating they are not interested in standing?
Arria Perreault: motion to elect the Dean and SC Archivist in the next meeting
Lilith Ivory: the office as dean does come with a lot of work .. are you sure your RL will give you the time to keep SC schedules in mind Coop?
RogueGeek Cooperstone: I think I can work it out
Lilith Ivory: ok can I have a second to wait till the next weekend?
Callipygian Christensen: Ill second
Lilith Ivory: all in favor to elect a new dean next meeting say aye please
Arria Perreault: aye
Lilith Ivory: aye
RogueGeek Cooperstone: aye
Soro Dagostino: aye
Aliasi Stonebender: aye
Callipygian Christensen: aye
Lilith Ivory: motion carried , thank you
Lilith Ivory: next agenda item: dates for furthere elections
Soro Dagostino: Let's all stand and give lilith a big round of applause?
Lilith Ivory: aawww thank you lol
Soro Dagostino: YAY!!!!!
Rosie Gray: clap clap clap
Soro Dagostino: WOOOOOT!!!!
Callipygian Christensen: I may disappear if I stand..but thankyou for your service Lilith :)
Arria Perreault: yeah !
Lilith Ivory: lol, we are not done here yet
Anastasia Idlemind: ???? * Applauds! * ???? ???? * Applauds! * ???? ???? * Applauds! * ???? ??
Anastasia Idlemind: clap
Arria Perreault: I am volunteering to make the dates of the next elections
Lilith Ivory: great ! thank you Arria
Keila Forager: Great job Lilith!!!
Lilith Ivory: can you post the slurl to the spreadsheet you made again Coop?
RogueGeek Cooperstone: Yes I can
Lilith Ivory: the schedule of the comming real election is the last we have
Arria Perreault: ok
Arria Perreault: you can send me an IM with the URL
RogueGeek Cooperstone:
Lilith Ivory: thank you Coop
Arria Perreault: thank you
Lilith Ivory: Next agenda item is old business already
RogueGeek Cooperstone: you're welcome
Lilith Ivory: Replacement of the forum admin
Lilith Ivory: Aliasi if I understood you correctly your RL does not allow you to take on this additional work?
Aliasi Stonebender: My plate is fairly full, yes.
Lilith Ivory: /me nods
Lilith Ivory: that?s how I understood you when we talked last about this issue
Aliasi Stonebender: Honestly I'd considered backing down from the light responsibilities I have now, which is mostly to show up here. :P
Pip Torok:
[11:22] Lilith Ivory: thank you Coop
Lilith Ivory: Pip?
Pip Torok: none from me
Lilith Ivory: where have I neen .. ah yes forum admin
Lilith Ivory: I have been looking around in the citizenship to find someone else willing and able to take over that job but without success so far
Lilith Ivory: so I would suggest either my fellow SC members try to find someone too ...
Lilith Ivory: or we just take our decission bach and keep Gwyn :)
Tanoujin Milestone: /me raises hand
Lilith Ivory: comment or questions from the SC members?
RogueGeek Cooperstone: as it stands now, is the forum still on her server?
Lilith Ivory: yes and I made sure Gwyn keeps taking care about it
Aliasi Stonebender: This is rapidly turning into a Sudane kind of situation.
Lilith Ivory: till someone else rebuilds it on another server
Lilith Ivory: I am sorry but I could not do more than asking around
Soro Dagostino: Ana would like to know more.
Soro Dagostino: Too new.
Soro Dagostino: What is involved, how much work?
Lilith Ivory: the complete forum needs to be rebuild on another server if I understood correctly and administrated
Lilith Ivory: but I ammnot the right person to talk about details as this all is a book with 7 seals for me
Lilith Ivory: so how are we going to deal with this problem?
Lilith Ivory: or should we just table it for now? but I hate it to have this unsolved
Callipygian Christensen: well everyone now knows to consider who might be suitable,
Aliasi Stonebender: This may be the sort of thing where, like the voting system, we'll need to investigate alternatives.
Callipygian Christensen: and since there may not be anyone perhaps its time to also look at options - perhaps paying someone to provide server space and forum management
Soro Dagostino: Ana is interested, but she needs to learn about the forum job.
Primone Table Rectangle: Touched.
RogueGeek Cooperstone: and we may need to consider a stipend
Lilith Ivory: I can?t say anything about that as I don?t have the knowledge needed
Soro Dagostino: Who does?
Lilith Ivory: and not the time to focus on that problem
Lilith Ivory: I would like to put this task in the hands of someone who has the knowledge about websites needed
Lilith Ivory: Hi Shep
Callipygian Christensen: Perhaps contact Gwen and ask her to make a list of what isneeded both in hardware and knowledge, ifthat wasnt already done to give to Aliasi or anyone else being considered?
Lilith Ivory: I do not have the time for things like this
Lilith Ivory: that?s why I am asking for a volunteer in this
Aliasi Stonebender: I'd once run a temporary forum before Gwen established the current, but yeah, not in the position to run a webserver.
Shep Titian: Hi All :)
Lilith Ivory: is any of my fellow SC members willing to take care about this issue for now?
Keila Forager: Hi Shep
Rosie Gray: hi Shep!
Callipygian Christensen: I am away for 5 of the next 8 weeks so can't commit to things until mid October
Callipygian Christensen: I wont have access to SL for any of that time, and limited internet in general
RogueGeek Cooperstone: I can chat with our weblackeys at work and get a feel for everything
Shep Titian: Hmmm not typing really ... sorry
Shep Titian: Hmmmm typing stuck
Lilith Ivory: /me nods
Rosie Gray: /me grabs Shep's hands
Lilith Ivory: as so far the forum runns smoothly anyway I guess a dicission about this can wait till the next meeting too
RogueGeek Cooperstone: honestly we could migrate to a hosted server space somewhere, and have someone admin it remotely
Lilith Ivory: still someone has to actively do it I guess
Callipygian Christensen: /me nods at Coop's comment
Lilith Ivory: I agree but someone (who is not me) needs to investigate
Arria Perreault: the Forums are our archives ....
Lilith Ivory: Tan did you want to say something too?
Arria Perreault: A hosted server is a good idea
Tanoujin Milestone: For an ordinary citizen like me it would be extremely helpful to understand what?s going on and why we try to get away from Gwyn?s service if there was a transcript of the last SC meeting posted? possibly you will get some useful feedback from that? Done.
Tanoujin Milestone: thank you
Rosie Gray: /me nods at Tan
RogueGeek Cooperstone: yes it is, but there are all sorts of migration options
Arria Perreault: we have to work the possible scenario
Soro Dagostino: That takes knowledge and skills.
Lilith Ivory: /me nods in agreement
Arria Perreault: but with a service (Saas) we don't need a physical server somewhere
Arria Perreault: I mean: we are not responsible for it
Arria Perreault: we only use a service
Callipygian Christensen: /me nods
RogueGeek Cooperstone: Can I speak to Tan's point?
Lilith Ivory: of course Coop
RogueGeek Cooperstone: Things are all pretty equal when things work. The forum is on a physical box that Gwyn owns. When it works, it works correctly. But let's say there is a power failure at her house. Forum is down for as long as that lasts.
RogueGeek Cooperstone: Or if there is a physical fault on the machine, same deal
RogueGeek Cooperstone: On a hosted server, there would be a far less likely risk of down time or internet loss
RogueGeek Cooperstone: plus most f the server farms have regular backups, so there is less risk of a drive failure, etc
RogueGeek Cooperstone: I'm not saying she hasn't done a good job thus far. But I am saying if she goes on holiday for a couple of weeks and the drive tanks, we're down until she comes back.
Soro Dagostino: Does anyone know of a competent vendor of such a service?
Lilith Ivory: are you done Coop?
Lilith Ivory: I?d have to add something after you are :)
RogueGeek Cooperstone: Yes'm, unless someone has another question.
Soro Dagostino: Vendors?
Callipygian Christensen: And instability of connection, and multiple short and longer down times have all occurred more than once.
Lilith Ivory: for the record I want to say that the server Gwyn "owns" is not in her home but rented from a french company, server farm if you like to say so :)
Soro Dagostino: Vendors?
Lilith Ivory: but of course if the forum goes down while Gwyn is on vacation she is not available to press the button to bring it up again
Lilith Ivory: and the problem we had last year was simply as Gwyn didn?t pay the company in time she has rented her server from in time
Callipygian Christensen: Soro - there are literally thousands of vendors of server space all over the world- its more a matter of finding one that matches your needs and price point.
Soro Dagostino: Raising Hand -- waving!
Lilith Ivory: Soro?
Soro Dagostino: Which Vendor? Does anyone know?
Aliasi Stonebender: that Gwyn uses? I'm not sure off the top of my head.
Soro Dagostino: A list of them.
Lilith Ivory: I guess she told me but I?d have to look it up again
Soro Dagostino: A shopping list.
Callipygian Christensen: Soro..see what I said above..there are thousands
Soro Dagostino: So, what are "some" of the names?
Lilith Ivory: the problem with the server Gwyn has rented is that only a little part of the space is used for CDS and the rest for other things ..
RogueGeek Cooperstone: GoDaddy.com
Callipygian Christensen: sonarrowing down is by asking people what they use, checking services offered and so on
Lilith Ivory: that?s why she won?t give access to anyone to "her" server
Soro Dagostino: I am one of their RL customers.
Soro Dagostino: GoDaddy.
Soro Dagostino: They would laugh their collective asses off if this "Serious Lawyer" came asking for an Sl CONNECTION.
Aliasi Stonebender: I think you badly overestimate how much of a damn they give.
Soro Dagostino: Well, that is "SL" too!
Callipygian Christensen: They dont give a damn as long as the bill is paid Soro..and its a space for a hosted Forum.godaddy probably has thousands of them
Soro Dagostino: Shall we try them -- Go Daddy.
Tanoujin Milestone: we are as good as any chicken breeders, just saying
RogueGeek Cooperstone: I'd say check around and get prices
Aliasi Stonebender: I admit I'm not wild about GoDaddy specifically, but yes, there are quite a lot of options.
Lilith Ivory: are you volunteering to check those things out Coop?
RogueGeek Cooperstone: I can
Lilith Ivory: great!
Soro Dagostino: Coop is our guardian Angel!! Herewith knighted!
Arria Perreault: ?
Soro Dagostino: At least until next week.
Lilith Ivory: /me smiles
Lilith Ivory: is there anything else to be disscussed on this topic?
Lilith Ivory: or can we move to our next meeting time?
RogueGeek Cooperstone: Move on
Aliasi Stonebender: please do
Lilith Ivory: what ab out the weekend of the 6th/7th october?
Callipygian Christensen: I will not be here for that, but as long as you are quorate you can still elect a Dean with me absent
Lilith Ivory: the weekend before does not work for yu too?
Callipygian Christensen: I am away from Sept 27 - Oct 22
Lilith Ivory: ah ok :)
Lilith Ivory: /me looks to her other SC members
RogueGeek Cooperstone: I'm ok with 6-7
Soro Dagostino: Sept. 26?
Arria Perreault: I am ok with 6-7
Aliasi Stonebender: should be okay, although I'm not certain yet
Lilith Ivory: Saturday the 6th or sunday the 7th? and same time as today?
Arria Perreault: both are fine foe me
Arria Perreault: for*
Soro Dagostino: The 7th is good.
RogueGeek Cooperstone: I can do the 7th
Lilith Ivory: ok so the next meeting will be at Sunday Okt 7th at 10:30 ?
Lilith Ivory: can we vote for this
Soro Dagostino: So move.
Aliasi Stonebender: let's.
Soro Dagostino: ((a second!))
Soro Dagostino: aye.
Lilith Ivory: fine with me
RogueGeek Cooperstone: Aye
Aliasi Stonebender: aye
Lilith Ivory: sunday the 7th it is
Arria Perreault: aye
Arria Perreault: aye
Lilith Ivory: is there anything else or can I have a motion to adjourn
Arria Perreault: motion to adjourn
Callipygian Christensen: motion to adjourn
RogueGeek Cooperstone: second
Callipygian Christensen: consider that a second then
Callipygian Christensen: or a third
Callipygian Christensen: lol
Lilith Ivory: Aria can you make sure we have an election timeline to vote on at this date?
Arria Perreault: for the next terms you mean ?
Lilith Ivory: if possible it would be good to have something
Arria Perreault: yes, I will make a proposal
Soro Dagostino: Byeeeeeee all. Ana sends her best.
Lilith Ivory: thank you Arria :)

I now lay down the command of my legions and retire to private life. Marcus Licinius Crassus
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