[08:15] Lilith Ivory: thank you all for being here today
[08:15] Lilith Ivory: let me know when you are ready to start
[08:16] Lilith Ivory: (the agenda is behind me in the box)
[08:16] Delia Lake: I can speak and hear, but not move
[08:17] Lilith Ivory: Aliasi, Calli, are you ready to start?
[08:17] Aliasi Stonebender: as ready as possible.
[08:18] Lilith Ivory: aaww ok
[08:18] Lilith Ivory: I might crash sometimes as my laptop gets hot like hell because of the weather
[08:19] Rosie Gray: hi Kyoko ㋡
[08:19] Lilith Ivory: do you all have the agenda (it´s the one from aug 1th) and are you ready to approve?
[08:19] Lilith Ivory: Hi Kyoko
[08:19] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): Morning Rosie and the august members of SC
[08:19] Delia Lake: yes and yes
[08:20] Aliasi Stonebender: alright..
[08:20] Aliasi Stonebender: yes and yes, yes.
[08:20] Lilith Ivory smiles
[08:21] Lilith Ivory: I move to approve the agenda for this meeting
[08:21] Delia Lake: second
[08:21] Lilith Ivory: all in favour vote aye please
[08:21] Delia Lake: aye
[08:21] Aliasi Stonebender: aye
[08:23] Lilith Ivory: Calli?
[08:25] Lilith Ivory: Calli, are you still with us?
[08:27] Callipygian Christensen: sorry - had a call I had to take
[08:27] Aliasi Stonebender: (eep!)
[08:27] Lilith Ivory: welcome back
[08:27] Lilith Ivory: we are voting on approving the agenda
[08:28] Lilith Ivory: waiting for you to say aye or nay
[08:29] Rosie Gray pats herself to see if she still exists
[08:30] Delia Lake: sl is pretty awful today
[08:31] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): I'm doing fine thanks to the i5 core
[08:32] Callipygian Christensen: vote aye
[08:32] Lilith Ivory: thank you Calli
[08:32] Lilith Ivory: next agenda item is the dean election
[08:33] Lilith Ivory: as all of you know I have serious issues with my health at the moment and would highly appreciate it if someone would be willing to hold the office of the dean for a while
[08:34] Lilith Ivory: I just can´t promise to be able to take care about SC and CDS business as doctors keep me mostly in the dark about what to expect during the next 6 month or more
[08:34] Delia Lake: I haven't taken a turn for a while and would be willing unless someone else would want to be Dean
[08:34] Aliasi Stonebender: That seems fine to me.
[08:35] Callipygian Christensen: I cannot, since I am currently on the slate for a national board in RL but am happy to nominate Delia
[08:35] Lilith Ivory: Thank you for stepping up Delia
[08:35] Lilith Ivory: I gladly move to elect Delia as dean for the next year
[08:36] Aliasi Stonebender: second.
[08:36] Lilith Ivory: all in favour vote aye please
[08:37] Aliasi Stonebender: aye
[08:37] Callipygian Christensen: aye
[08:37] Delia Lake: abstain
[08:37] Lilith Ivory: aye
[08:37] Lilith Ivory: thank you so much Delia
[08:37] Lilith Ivory: I am willing to help in any way I can
[08:37] Rosie Gray: clap clap clap
[08:37] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): Applause!!
[08:38] Delia Lake: you're welcome. as I said I havent taken my turn for a few years now
[08:38] Callipygian Christensen: thank you Delia!
[08:38] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): Yes thank you Delia
[08:38] Lilith Ivory: should I pass the chair over to you right now?
[08:38] Delia Lake: thank you for your serrvice, Lil
[08:38] Lilith Ivory: (not sure how long my laptop allows me to stay
[08:38] Lilith Ivory: my pleasure
[08:39] Delia Lake: if you would, since I am not up to date on the other items on the agenda Id appreciate if you would chair them Lil for today
[08:39] Lilith Ivory: ok , no problem
[08:39] Lilith Ivory: the next item on the agenda is the schedule for our elections
[08:40] Lilith Ivory: if I saw that right we only have two more terms scheduled and I was thinking it might be about time to add a few more
[08:40] Lilith Ivory: let me get the link
[08:40] Delia Lake: ty
[08:41] Lilith Ivory:
[08:41] Lilith Ivory: it´s scheduled till elections for term 35 if I see that correctly
[08:42] Lilith Ivory: are there volunteers to add a few more?
[08:42] Callipygian Christensen: Can I suggest that you ask Soro if he'd like to do that?
[08:43] Callipygian Christensen: He's been eager to offer help with things, but struggles at early meeting times etc - it might be a 'fit' for him right now
[08:44] Lilith Ivory: I can give it a try if you want me to do
[08:44] Delia Lake: I can ask him
[08:44] Delia Lake: and if he can't I can put 3 more sets oof draft dates in
[08:45] Delia Lake is still not used to her new keyboard
[08:45] Lilith Ivory: fine with me
[08:45] Lilith Ivory: we still have a bit time left till we need it
[08:45] Delia Lake: yes
[08:46] Lilith Ivory: and sorry, I completely forgot to call for volunteers for the office of an SC archivist and dean pro tempore
[08:46] Lilith Ivory: any volunteers?
[08:47] Aliasi Stonebender: Considering I've already proposed getting another member due to *my* difficulties in showing up, I'm not sure I should.
[08:48] Delia Lake: if we actively look for another member, Aliasi, would you be willing on a short term temp basis?
[08:49] Aliasi Stonebender: I could consider it, yes.
[08:50] Lilith Ivory: I could do but I am not sure if I can make it to all meetings
[08:51] Aliasi Stonebender: obviously my issue as well, heh. the problem with early Sunday meetings is it's something I can *technically* meet, but it's after a 12-hour work shift with a couple hours sleep.
[08:54] Delia Lake: pro temp would really only be required too do anything if we had a meeting with a really urgent matter and I either couldn't make it in or crashed out in the middle
[08:54] Delia Lake: otherwise we would simply reschedule the meeting
[08:56] Lilith Ivory: I had to be my own pro temp and archivist too while I was dean
[08:56] Delia Lake: archivist we need because on occasion we need to look back to find decisions and precedences for current decisions
[08:56] Rosie Gray:
[08:56] Lilith Ivory: it´s mainly for taking the transcript
[08:56] Delia Lake: yes
[08:57] Callipygian Christensen: I can do that
[08:57] Lilith Ivory: thank you Calli
[08:58] Lilith Ivory: are you volunteering for Archivist or Pro temp or both?
[08:58] Lilith Ivory: just to be clear so we don´t vote you into anything you don´t want
[08:58] Callipygian Christensen: archivist I can do
[08:58] Delia Lake: Lil would you be willing to be pro temp for the time being?
[08:58] Delia Lake: it would almost never be necessary
[08:58] Lilith Ivory: I can do as long as I am around
[08:58] Callipygian Christensen: if Aliasi can cover pro tem, then we are good until we find a new member or two
[08:59] Lilith Ivory: if not I will let you know
[08:59] Callipygian Christensen: ok.Lil then
[08:59] Delia Lake: ok
[08:59] Lilith Ivory: ok I move to appoint Calli as SC archivist and me as Delias Pro Temp
[08:59] Lilith Ivory: is that correct?
[08:59] Aliasi Stonebender: works, seconded and aye.
[09:00] Delia Lake: aye
[09:00] Lilith Ivory: aye
[09:02] Lilith Ivory: Calli?
[09:02] Callipygian Christensen: umm..aye since I cant partially abstain lol
[09:03] Lilith Ivory: ok
[09:04] Lilith Ivory: the next agenda items are old business from our last meeting
[09:04] Lilith Ivory: I have question marks there as I personally don´t really know if there is still need to discuss
[09:05] Lilith Ivory: 1. Delia mentioned it might be a good idea to write a petition to LL about what happens when an EO disappears
[09:05] Lilith Ivory: I am not sure if this is something for the SC to handle
[09:05] Lilith Ivory: any comments?
[09:06] Aliasi Stonebender: Yeah, I don't think this is really our territory, directly.
[09:06] Callipygian Christensen: Was the idea to petition them for a change in what occurs?
[09:06] Callipygian Christensen: If so, and I think that was more the idea Delia? - then it is something for the RA to do I think
[09:07] Lilith Ivory: a commitee perhaps?
[09:07] Aliasi Stonebender: mmhm. Or at the very least, the RA drafts the instructions to the Chancellor or some other designate.
[09:08] Delia Lake: yes. so that if something happened to Sudane the CDS would still belong to the CDS not revert to LL. there is a missing piece in LL policy that affects a number of communities. I think we need to work with the RA, thhe Chancelloor and Sudane on this
[09:08] Delia Lake: If we draft something we should I think circulate it to other SL communities that would be affected so any petition would be from a number of groups
[09:09] Aliasi Stonebender: I mean, I do know that it's possible to *will* things to other SL users (and you can contact LL to set it up), but I don't know if it's ever been done on the scale of something like the CDS.
[09:09] Aliasi Stonebender: And even that isn't 'let's give it to someone the CDS chooses' but "give it to this specific person'
[09:09] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane) nods
[09:10] Callipygian Christensen: Exactly ALiasi, and they totally ignore that some people might not want SL mixed into their real life will.
[09:10] Aliasi Stonebender: In a *practical* sense, we've several long-timers who would probably be okay with being the nominal and de jure EO, but it does come with hassles, yes.
[09:11] Aliasi Stonebender: Still, even if that winds up being the imperfect option we take, we should have it lined up.
[09:11] Delia Lake: Lyubov might we put this on the RA agenda to discuss as well and if people think it is worth pursuing we could draft a coommunity petition to circulate among sl groups with the intent to propose a change to LL
[09:13] Delia Lake: Etopia community changed EOs quite a while back. I dont know how they did this. although no oone died in that instance
[09:14] Callipygian Christensen: Maybe send a notecard officially asking her to do that Delia - she may be AFK and it doesnt hurt to have a record
[09:14] Delia Lake: I dont know what Hotel Chelsea will do eventuallly because their owner oof 2 regions died a few months ago
[09:14] Callipygian Christensen: You can change EO anytime - you just have to pay them the cost per sim of the transfer
[09:14] Delia Lake: I'll send Lyubov a note
[09:15] Callipygian Christensen: That becomes difficult though if the current EO isnt there to start the process
[09:15] Lilith Ivory: any time while the EO is still available I guess
[09:15] Delia Lake: yes
[09:15] Lilith Ivory: exactly
[09:15] Lilith Ivory: and that´s why Sudane has developed an imo well working Contingency Plan in march
[09:15] Lyubov Atheria: The RA could consider this as an agenda item.
[09:16] Lilith Ivory: I sent it to all SC members the weekend after our last meeting
[09:17] Delia Lake: Lil, I dont think I have that. It doesn't show in a search of inventory
[09:17] Lilith Ivory: I sent it to all SC members via email
[09:17] Lilith Ivory: it´s a PDF document
[09:18] Lilith Ivory: I can email again
[09:18] Delia Lake: please do. ty
[09:18] Aliasi Stonebender: yeah, I just pulled it up in gmail.
[09:19] Aliasi Stonebender: (and yowch, yeah, didn't really think about how the current global health crisis further complicates things...)
[09:20] Delia Lake: right
[09:21] Lilith Ivory: afk for a moment while resending the plan
[09:21] Aliasi Stonebender: in any case, it seems like the part that involves communicating with LL isn't really our domain.
[09:21] Lilith Ivory: Sudane developed a plan so we can survive without having to bother LL
[09:22] Lilith Ivory: to simplify things and buy us time
[09:22] Aliasi Stonebender: We're already the shadowy elder council of the place - it's better for the RA to come to an agreement as to a plan, even if we're required to execute some part of it for whatever reason.
[09:23] Delia Lake: I think we need to review and discuss that keeping in mind any laws we might need too change to accmmodate the plan working with the RA to do so
[09:23] Delia Lake: better to plan ahead and never need to implement it
[09:24] Lilith Ivory: the existance of this plan and basic info about it already has been included in the EO act
[09:24] Lilith Ivory: ... trying to find the link to that law
[09:25] Aliasi Stonebender: (Aside from this and figuring out the next meeting, do we have much else on the agenda? I'm beginning to fade.)
[09:25] Delia Lake: ok
[09:25] Lilith Ivory: NL 5-6 Estate Owner Act
[09:26] Lilith Ivory: I need to go too as I have visitors here who are about to leave
[09:26] Delia Lake: regarding next meeting, do Sunday mornings work? Might we schedule for Sunday, September 13 at 8 am?
[09:27] Lilith Ivory: as far as I can see it will work
[09:27] Callipygian Christensen: I should be fine with that - my dreams of a trip to Europe while it is crowd free is dimming :/
[09:27] Aliasi Stonebender: I can try it.
[09:28] Delia Lake: you may still be able to dream. if one is a US citizen the only place that will take us is Turkey. shut out of all other countries right now
[09:28] Delia Lake: So we will plan on Sunday, Sept 13 @ 8
[09:29] Lilith Ivory: aye for me
[09:29] Callipygian Christensen: We Canadians are welcome - the problem is that things can change overnight - so anything including a few days in England to see family might mean quarantine issues depending on where we come in from :/
[09:29] Aliasi Stonebender: alright, sounds good.
[09:29] Aliasi Stonebender: aye
[09:29] Callipygian Christensen: aye
[09:30] Delia Lake: thank you everyone move to adjourn
[09:30] Lilith Ivory: second and aye
[09:30] Callipygian Christensen: second and aye
[09:30] Callipygian Christensen: haha
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