Shep Titian [08:08] Ok .. well we are quorate so we will begin
[08:08] Calling the meeting to order
[08:08] Hi Calli
Callipygian Christensen [08:08] Callipygian Christensen waves
Soro Dagostino [08:09] Soro Dagostino waves at Calli
Lilith Ivory [08:09] HI Rosie, Hi Calli
Shep Titian [08:09] Ok Birch approves the agenda as stated .. Ranma do you aprove the agenda?
Rosie Gray [08:09] ?
Soro Dagostino [08:09] Soro Dagostino Rosie too
Ranma Tardis [08:09] aye
[08:10] I move to approve the agenda
[08:10] am off this am
Shep Titian [08:10] Speakers on todays agenda items are Rosie Gray .. representing the Guild
[08:11] Ok Any citizens concerns other than the item on agenda?
Bagheera Kristan [08:11] raises hand
Shep Titian [08:11] Bags
Bagheera Kristan [08:12] At Gwyn's last meeting, it came out that I - as RA Archivist - was supposed to be extracting laws as they were passed and posting them... I didn't know I was supposed to be doing that, so I am currently going through the transcripts and doing that now just for the record
[08:13] trying to get all the laws current
[08:13] I expect to have that done this week
[08:13] done
Pip Torok [08:14] Pip Torok hopes we'll all be instant lawyers for the election ...
Shep Titian [08:14] Awww thank you Bags ... I don't think we changed anything important this last session ... we've been focussed on building
Bagheera Kristan [08:14] yes
Shep Titian [08:15] Anyone else?
[08:15] Ok
[08:15] moving on
[08:15] RA any concerns other than the main item ?
Moonrise Azalee [08:15] good lord, ok im back
[08:16] (sorry)
Shep Titian [08:16] WB .. nourished I hope
Moonrise Azalee [08:16] well, im aiming for quiet but well nourished is good too
Rosie Gray [08:16]
Shep Titian [08:16] Lets Birch catch up
Moonrise Azalee [08:16] scrolling
Shep Titian [08:17] Are you ready Rosie?
Moonrise Azalee [08:17] ok. caught up
Shep Titian [08:17] ok cool
Rosie Gray [08:17] yes
[08:18] ?
Shep Titian [08:18] AS there is no old business we move on to the main item .. redesign of LA .. Rosie I give you the floor
Rosie Gray [08:18] thank you Shep
[08:19] As the representative of the CDS Artisan Guild
[08:19] I'd like to present this design you've all been looking at... Calli's design
[08:19] as the one we'd like to recommend for reworking the Locus Amoenus sim
[08:20] as you can see it enlarges the harbour area
[08:20] and creates a focal point, with the little fishing village
[08:20] this would give us some small lots, similar to the walled city in NFS too
[08:20] and of course there are the other varied sized lots
[08:21] with this plan, we can leave the Time Machine where it is
[08:21] and there are a few other lots that can stay as they are too
Bagheera Kristan [08:22] raises hand
Rosie Gray [08:22] I think we may need to adjust the road on the far right so that it stays where it is now, since it connects up with the road on CN
Shep Titian [08:22] When Rosie is done Bags
Bagheera Kristan [08:22]
Rosie Gray [08:23] this plan is to work with the new them of Tuscany that was approved by the RA
[08:23] now, for those people that may have to move some
[08:23] I've discussed with our Chancellor the need to compensate people
[08:24] by giving them same sized lots, or buying them out at what they paid, at their choice
[08:25] the details of this need to be worked out still
[08:25] so, waiting for questions now
Shep Titian [08:26] Ok Bags
Moonrise Azalee [08:26] Moonrise Azalee raises hand
Bagheera Kristan [08:26] okay just a moment... let me type this out
Shep Titian [08:26] After Bags Birch
Ranma Tardis [08:26] raises hand
Moonrise Azalee [08:26] Moonrise Azalee nods
Shep Titian [08:26] Ran after Birch
Ranma Tardis [08:26] nods
Bagheera Kristan [08:28] Since it appears both my builds... the Insulae which belongs to CDS and my own building and lot, the Library, are both off this map I'd like to hear the benefits and thought behind each parcel created... the reason I am asking is because I did build both of my builds with careful consideration for making the whole sim better so - not a judgment, just a question "why these parcels? what makes each parcel size/location something appealing to a prospective citizen?
Callipygian Christensen [08:28] Callipygian Christensen raises her hand
Bagheera Kristan [08:29] done
Alexia Carnell [08:29] Alexia Carnell raises hand
Shep Titian [08:29] Rosie do you want to respond?
Rosie Gray [08:29] sure
[08:29] good question Bags ?
Bagheera Kristan [08:29]
Shep Titian [08:30] Calli after Ranma and Alexia after Calli
Rosie Gray [08:30] the plan, although it's a bit hard to tell from the drawing, was to generally have a cliff down to beach along the left side of the drawing
[08:31] and I also wanted to say, that just because some lots are changing around a bit
[08:31] that it doesn't mean we can't keep existing builds
[08:31] they might have to be picked up for a time though
Bagheera Kristan [08:31]
Rosie Gray [08:31] there does need to be some terrascaping done
Shep Titian [08:32] ok Bags?
Rosie Gray [08:32] the biggist part of the plan centres on the enlarged harbour area and the fishing village, which is all currently common land
[08:32] does that answer your question Bags?
Shep Titian [08:32] OK Birch
Bagheera Kristan [08:32] I was wondering about t lines, what does a citizen see - what is their view - from their parcels?
Shep Titian [08:32] oop
Bagheera Kristan [08:32] sorry
Moonrise Azalee [08:32] Moonrise Azalee waits
Rosie Gray [08:32] well there needs to be terrascaping done
Bagheera Kristan [08:32] yes
Rosie Gray [08:32] some of this you'll have to imagine
Bagheera Kristan [08:33] okay - I guess I just want to say that each citizen should have some sort of view that's all
Rosie Gray [08:33] but the idea was to have the sim finished around the edges (down to beach)
[08:33] aah, yes
Bagheera Kristan [08:33] nice & nice job, calli
Shep Titian [08:33] k Birch
Moonrise Azalee [08:34] k... well first of all, i just wanted to know is the top of the image West and the bottom East?
Rosie Gray [08:34] the harbour to sea is where it is currently
Moonrise Azalee [08:35] so the top is flowing into CN?
Rosie Gray [08:35] yes
[08:35] and to the right is Monastery
Moonrise Azalee [08:36] Okay, well I just wanted to say I really like the layout, I think it makes a far better use of land. LA has always seemed so random to me. This looks nice. Done
Shep Titian [08:36] thanks
[08:36] Ranma
Ranma Tardis [08:38] I am concerned about citizens being forced to relocate. I do not find your compensation plan correct. Also there will be cries of favoritism by some. How will this be managed and what is the due process to assure fairness?
Rosie Gray [08:39] these details need to be worked out, with the Chancellor
[08:39] but the idea is to keep people happy
Ranma Tardis [08:40] Again there is no due process of law? I like the plan but representing the citizens makes me have to ask.
Rosie Gray [08:40] I don't think the laws address this issue
Ranma Tardis [08:41] ok, done
Shep Titian [08:41] thanks
Rosie Gray [08:41] and this is why we do need to write it out carefully so that everyone understands the process
Shep Titian [08:41] Calli
Callipygian Christensen [08:41] thank you - just to clarify, this was a draft done with some specifics in mind from the group disscussions1 A fishing village on a larger harbour, 2 Time Machine in same spot for LM access 3 All prcels having road access or water access or both
[08:42] keeping canal and river 'in line' as well. Other thn that the parcels were meant to just be 'there' I have no idea if there are too many or not enough - so this was just to get the main 'we wants' of people in a concept
[08:42] done
Pip Torok [08:42] Pip Torok raises hand
Shep Titian [08:43] alexia then Pip
Alexia Carnell [08:43] More or less same question as Ranma's - for the moment - this plan was made when LA was a desert - did you consider carefully the troubles it will create, carrying it on now, for LA (and other sims) new citizens?
Shep Titian [08:44] there is still a lot empty Alexia
Alexia Carnell [08:44] done
Shep Titian [08:44] Pip
Pip Torok [08:45] May I suggest that the map forms part of the transcript to this meeting (for obvious reason)? done
Alexia Carnell [08:46] Alexia Carnell raises hand
Lilith Ivory [08:46] Lilith Ivory raises her hand too
Shep Titian [08:46] Alexia
Alexia Carnell [08:46] I must thank anybody who ed with the "favoritism" of preserving my shop location in LA in this plan.
But i think at this point there is SOMETHING MUCH MORE IMPORTANT than my shop, and it's some basic principles i will try to resume here, if you allow me... can i go on?.
Shep Titian [08:47] Yes go on
Alexia Carnell [08:47] First. As a citizen i have to say the whole LA issue has been managed in a weird way (least i can say). Forcing theme changes. Encouraging spontaneous rezzings. Preparing redesign plans at the desk without sharing enough with citizens. Locking estate transactions to new citizens. Spreading rumours. All this lead to an escalation of misunderstandings, bullying, griefing from citizens against other citizens. So what i ask to our rulers is to step down from their hyperuranian meetings and see what happens on the ground, discuss, share, spend some of their precious time LISTENING and COMMUNICATING in world. Relations work better in world than in a freezing forum, which works well as an archive but is not a problem solver.
[08:47] Second. I had a nice experience in the last days ing a noob to organize his plot. I could see Cds from his point of view, and it all sounded hard-to.understand, hostile, cumbersome. I suddenly realized that ING NEW CITIZENS to deal with strict covenants and impositions or whatever their needs are, is a priority, if we dont want to lose them. So again some more bottom - up approach would not be bad: and never impose.
[08:47] I had another experience i want to share with you. Last year i got a residential plot in another Sim. I wanted some terraforming changes and i had it in one day. I was allowed to build but I had to get my house approved, rezzin it in the sky first. They came and gave me some suggestions. I made some changes, they approved and i was allowed to rez. The whole process took a couple of days. A couple of days!!!. How do we call it? Customer care?
[08:48] Fourth. A special attention should be dedicated to citizens who bring in new people, in spite of their bad tempers, and to citizens who want to organize events, open activities as schools, bars, shops. For some weeks i opened a bellydance school near the Time Machine last year and i have to say i brought a lot of visitors. I think Cds should promoting citizen's activities. Be their LOUDSPEAKERS in world, and not their daily nightmare.
[08:48] LAST. My dear friends, THESE above should be our priorities. I understand REDESIGNING a sim, building and landscaping is much more fun. But very simply it's not our core problem. Do you really think that changing a Sim theme or having a top quality landscape will change things and attract more people? Alas you are totally wrong if you believe it. I have seen in these years tens of top quality sims disappear for lack of traffic and business. I have seen some low quality sims surviving and beeing lively and having traffic after five years, just because they had a strong "glue" in their activities that attracted people and made rulers happy to organize them.
[08:49] I suggest you suspend this plan and consider with a bit more attentionn
[08:49] Done
Callipygian Christensen [08:50] Callipygian Christensen has to leave - I wont comment on the speech but will point out this:It isn't 'favouritism', it's courtesy to a long time location with LMs out in the world - feel free to ignore the courtesy offered and move
Soro Dagostino [08:50] Soro Dagostino raises hand
Alexia Carnell [08:50] oh so kind Cally
Shep Titian [08:51] Lil then Soro
Callipygian Christensen [08:51] Callipygian Christensen waves and heads to the chiro
Shep Titian [08:51] Just an aside from me .. well done Calli for writing your speech
Lilith Ivory [08:51] Lilith Ivory lowers her hand again as she is shocked
Rosie Gray [08:51] Calli, and thanks for the excellent plan
Lilith Ivory [08:51] nothing to say atm
Moonrise Azalee [08:52] Calli
Pip Torok [08:52] Pip Torok eraises hand
Lilith Ivory [08:52] Calli
Soro Dagostino [08:52] Soro Dagostino yields to Pip.
Alexia Carnell [08:52] Thanks Cally, i will consider your proposal
Bagheera Kristan [08:53] ((afk for a bit))
Pip Torok [08:53] i take Alexs point about providing "glue" but i fail to see how _cancelling_ the plan will /hinder this necessary process done
Shep Titian [08:54] Soro?
Soro Dagostino [08:54] I believe there needs to be some planning done. LA is a little occupied space and horse lots.
[08:55] It needs covenants. It needs supervision by the "government"
[08:55] Leaving it to the wishes of citizens, without an agreed plan, will lead to disaster.
Tor Karlsvalt [08:56] Tor Karlsvalt listens to everything but is in some bad lag.
Soro Dagostino [08:56] That is unless those who want to "bubble up" want to guaranty the tier for the Sim.
Alexia Carnell [08:56] wonders what the word "agreed" means
Shep Titian [08:57] I believe it will have covenants Soro .. not a free for all
Soro Dagostino [08:57] Done.
[08:59] brb -- warming coffee.
Pip Torok [08:59] Pip Torok raises hand
Shep Titian [08:59] Nice
[08:59] Ok ...
Pip Torok [09:00] Pip Torok has hand still in the air .....
Shep Titian [09:00] Sorry Pip
Tor Karlsvalt [09:01] brb
Bagheera Kristan [09:01] raises hand
Pip Torok [09:02] just to say that i wd go one further than soro .. i wd empower the chancellor to negotiate with citizens who _seriously_ compromise the theme and in necessary to remo ve the build done
Alexia Carnell [09:02]
Pip Torok [09:02] if necessary
Alexia Carnell [09:02] Alexia Carnell wonders if Time Machin could become tuscan
Bagheera Kristan [09:03] ((I may have to run to the kitchen really quick as I have something on the stove, but I do have my hand up- ))
Pip Torok [09:03]
Moonrise Azalee [09:03] Moonrise Azalee raises hand
Shep Titian [09:03] Pip did you change your mind?
Moonrise Azalee [09:04] Moonrise Azalee whispers... he spoke
Pip Torok [09:04] no .. in what respect?
Shep Titian [09:04] Oop sorry
Pip Torok [09:04] np! )
Shep Titian [09:04] Bags then Birch
Bagheera Kristan [09:05] thank you okay... so, considering what Alexia said, and I feelher thoughts are valid, and weighing it against all that has transpired here... the last RA voted on making this change, so it isn't a surprise...
[09:05] but I think Alexia makes some valid points and...
[09:06] I think it is important to acknowledge those who have settled in LA... I do believe there is harmony between the new theme as proposed and the current citizenry, as long as there is flexibility and respect on both sides. The people who settled in LA, I believe chose to be there because they LIKE it
[09:06] so they are not the enemies of the government's plans - - they are the reason for the government's being
[09:07] and I believe there is good common ground as long as effort is made to listen and consider the people who are there
[09:07] done
Shep Titian [09:07] I have to interject .. there were meetings after meetings about this .. not one did I se Alexia there ,.. in fact I told her I would look out for her interests
Bagheera Kristan [09:07] nevertheless, she is a citizen of LA, as am I
Pip Torok [09:07] Pip Torok guesses that the new citizens like the community spirit fully as much as the landscape
Tor Karlsvalt [09:07] Tor Karlsvalt raises hand
Alexia Carnell [09:08] i never receive a guild meeting btw
[09:08] *received
Bagheera Kristan [09:08] okay, done
Shep Titian [09:08] Birch
Moonrise Azalee [09:09] ok....
Shep Titian [09:09] After Birch Tor
Rosie Gray [09:09] guild meetings have been announced through the group, and on the forum
Alexia Carnell [09:10] and i already said my opinions in a previous RA meeting
[09:10] group notices last a whim
Moonrise Azalee [09:10] Well first of all, to address Alexia --- since being a member of the RA there has been lots of talk about how to get new people here. The only thing we didnt do was change the theme. ITs an issue in SL period as many people find more prims and less cost in other grids ---
[09:10] secondly, the point about noobs.....
[09:10] yes, it is a reason i argue for clearer covenants. Not necessarily 'less stringent' butmore clear meaning.....
[09:10] thirdly
[09:11] I am a sim owner.... i am full
[09:11] i have people lined up right now to rent parcels...
[09:12] and my prices are an in between.. but do you know what each new tenant says to me..... 'this place is beautiful.. what a peaceful, attractive place to 'live' ' so yes, aesthetics DOES play a huge role. LA is currently a rather chaotic mess and does not feel 'real' its not very immersive in its appearnce and i feel that the new look is a big step in the right direction. Done.
Ranma Tardis [09:12] raises hand
Tor Karlsvalt [09:13] Thanks
[09:13] Pleahaving some chat lag problems but here goes
[09:14] Last winter I held three long meetings in LA on a theme redo at three different times.
[09:15] The general consensus was a theme change would be a good idea and that Tuscan or Mediterranean would be preferable.
[09:16] As far as promoting citizen interests, that is an excellent idea but I think CDS channels have been open for individuals to promote their interests.
Moonrise Azalee [09:16] Moonrise Azalee nods in agreement
Tor Karlsvalt [09:16] I also would point out that many SL sims have reduced sims. ROMA has cut two sims I think,
[09:16] Ars Avete I understand is out of business.
[09:16] Caledon has downgraded sims.
Bagheera Kristan [09:17] (in counterpoint, Blake Sea Battles has added 5 sims)
Tor Karlsvalt [09:18] Without doubt competition for residents is firerse in SL and other grids do take people from SL. I think generally tho, these numbers are small.
Shep Titian [09:18] OK
Tor Karlsvalt [09:18] Done
Shep Titian [09:18] we digress
[09:18] I'm ready to put it to the vote
[09:18] I propose that we accept the redesign plan as presented and discussed, and that the guild and Chancellor be authorized to move forward executing the plan.with a time frame "post-Roman to the end of the 19th century (or pre-WWI)"
Ranma Tardis [09:19] second
Shep Titian [09:19] Vote .. aye
Ranma Tardis [09:19] aye
Moonrise Azalee [09:20] Aye
Shep Titian [09:20] Excellent !!!!!
Alexia Carnell [09:20] Ok my friends - i take your vote and make you a favour - i will take Cally's suggestion and leave LA - and Cds - so you can feel free to build a bright future for the sim. Farewell
Rosie Gray [09:20] ··•°•··..? Applauds! ? ..··•°•··..
Pip Torok [09:20] congratulations everybody!
Rosie Gray [09:20] Rosie Gray notes that some people just cannot be accommodated
Shep Titian [09:20] Rosie and Tor .. can you take this as our request to move ahead with the redevelopment
Rosie Gray [09:21] yes thank you Shep, and thank you Ranma and Birch
Pip Torok [09:21] Pip Torok wd have liked Alexia to have continued with us ...
Moonrise Azalee [09:21] Moonrise Azalee grins. Good Job everyone involved in this redesigning
Bagheera Kristan [09:21] me too pip
Lilith Ivory [09:21] me too
Ranma Tardis [09:21] I have faith the Guild will be fair to all citizens
Rosie Gray [09:22] I don't understand why she is being like that since we said her land would be left alone
Soro Dagostino [09:22] Cleo
Shep Titian [09:22] I agree Soro
Bagheera Kristan [09:22] no, honestly, if you think about it - her brand is Roman themed - and the sim supported that as is
Moonrise Azalee [09:22] I'm looking forward to it, it's very exciting
Bagheera Kristan [09:22] to state post-Roman gives her no incentive to stay
Rosie Gray [09:23] well then she needs to have her own sim, and pay for the whole thing if that's the case
[09:23] otherwise, it would have fit just fine
Tor Karlsvalt [09:24] Alas, Roman is in decline unless supported by a strong RP policy or combat.
Bagheera Kristan [09:24] she was unhappy before Cleo, I know this because we talked, so you cannot hang this on Cleo's influence
Rosie Gray [09:24] Rosie Gray nods
Moonrise Azalee [09:24] Growth can be painful and awkward, but otherwise we risk being stagnant.... the theme as is, Roman... just isnt very attractive to the general population. There are ways that she could adjust. But sometimes giving up is easier.
Bagheera Kristan [09:24] so please don't
[09:24] true, I like the idea of a bigger harbor
Ranma Tardis [09:25] am sad
Rosie Gray [09:25] she might change her mind
Moonrise Azalee [09:25] landscape is a huge part of wanting to spend time in a fantasy life, i look at places like Chilbo, a huge community once... and its gone to peices
[09:26] they had to sell of land, it got choppy, roads broken... and now its just like the rest of mainland for the most part.
Tor Karlsvalt [09:26] Chilbo is sad
Moonrise Azalee [09:26] it was amazing once
Shep Titian [09:26] I'm talking to her
Bagheera Kristan [09:26] I've been exploring successful private communities... I think we could learn a lot from places like the Steampunks of New Babbage - 10 thriving sims
Rosie Gray [09:26] behaving like a spoilt teenager doesn't anything
Bagheera Kristan [09:26] the Blake Sea Battles, who just added 5 sims
Rosie Gray [09:26] aren't they all rp though, Bags?
Tor Karlsvalt [09:27] Oh btw, I have been asked to respond to an effort started to pull together community based sims.
Bagheera Kristan [09:27] ohyes, I guess maybe that's it
Moonrise Azalee [09:27] as times change, public and social interests change and i really feel that rome is past its time. unless, .like said, its RP. Tuscany offers a richer beauty i think
Tor Karlsvalt [09:27] One question is to suggest other community members who can be contacted.
Rosie Gray [09:27] we can have renaissance builds in Tuscany!
Moonrise Azalee [09:27]
Pip Torok [09:27] yes ... think of Renaissance art !!
Tor Karlsvalt [09:27] I thought of the RA, SC and guild members. Also people running for office this term.
[09:28] I will send you all a copy of my responce.
[09:28] response.
Moonrise Azalee [09:28] What exactly is it Tor?
Bagheera Kristan [09:28] true - I guess where I got stuck was outright stating "post-roman" since even today, you can see Roman era buildings
Tor Karlsvalt [09:28] Well it seems to be an effort forming among some community bases sims.
[09:28] based
Moonrise Azalee [09:29] like to have joint events etc?
Rosie Gray [09:29] I was taking the post-Roman to mean that the Roman buildings would be old
[09:29] Rosie Gray shuts up now
Bagheera Kristan [09:29] ah
Tor Karlsvalt [09:29] sort of an inter communication effort.
Moonrise Azalee [09:29] Moonrise Azalee grins
[09:29] ahh yes that makes sense
Tor Karlsvalt [09:29] Or at least promote eachother's events.
Rosie Gray [09:29] sounds interesting, Tor
Moonrise Azalee [09:29] indeed yes
Tor Karlsvalt [09:30] I think we can have some Roman builds. Look at the Pantheon in Rome.
[09:31] That build survives to this day as a functioning building.
Lilith Ivory [09:31] I think we agreed on this theme as it is a way citizens don´t have to change their homes
Rosie Gray [09:31] Rosie Gray nods
Pip Torok [09:31] has anyone given thought to giving LA a new Italian name?
Rosie Gray [09:31] we would have to pay to rename the sim
Lilith Ivory [09:31] changing the name of a Sim costs some money
Bagheera Kristan [09:31] don't you have to pay Linden
Tor Karlsvalt [09:31] Some people like the name.
Pip Torok [09:31] (or is that not possible?)
Bagheera Kristan [09:31] yes
Tor Karlsvalt [09:31] Nice place
Lilith Ivory [09:32] it´s possible but not cheap
Bagheera Kristan [09:32] have to be a compelling reason to spend the money
Shep Titian [09:32] OK folks .. order please
Pip Torok [09:32] well .. since i'm not bowled-over in the rush .. I'll forget I said that !! :-]
Rosie Gray [09:33] ?
Bagheera Kristan [09:33]
Shep Titian [09:33] Moving on
[09:33] No reports
[09:33] Tor anything from the exec?
Tor Karlsvalt [09:34] yes
[09:34] Thank you Madam LRA
[09:35] I would like to point out that hippo shows occupancy at 88 percent
Shep Titian [09:35] Thats wonderful
Tor Karlsvalt [09:36] Also, talking to several of our new people, I think a Tuscan theame would be welcomed. One might even be interested in ing to build the new sim.
[09:37] Done
Shep Titian [09:37] THank you Tor
[09:37] No announcements
[09:37] So next RA meeting
Lilith Ivory [09:38] Lilith Ivory looks around and is sad to see none of the new citizens
Rosie Gray [09:38] Rosie Gray nods at Lil and agrees
Shep Titian [09:39] A number have said Lil that they love the sims .. mountains etc .. and are'nt here for politics but community
[09:39] Which is cool in my book
Moonrise Azalee [09:39] Moonrise Azalee notes that there are many anti-politic sorts these days
Rosie Gray [09:39]
Tor Karlsvalt [09:39] Well one may follow the other in time.
Moonrise Azalee [09:39] they come here to be stress free
Shep Titian [09:40] Yes Tor you're right
[09:40] But they are happy to be here
Tor Karlsvalt [09:40] I have to say the shops on the quay were very nice.
Lilith Ivory [09:40] Lilith Ivory is not a very political person too
Shep Titian [09:41] Ok .. date
Moonrise Azalee [09:41] Moonrise Azalee grins
Shep Titian [09:41] Is two weeks ok
[09:41] or three .. getting close to the end
Ranma Tardis [09:41] nods
Moonrise Azalee [09:41] im good for two
Tor Karlsvalt [09:41] Yay!
Moonrise Azalee [09:41] or three, or whatever
Shep Titian [09:41] ok two weeks
Ranma Tardis [09:42] me too
Shep Titian [09:42] Sat 9th Nov at 8am
Tor Karlsvalt [09:42] Tor Karlsvalt needs to find someone to organize debates.
Moonrise Azalee [09:42]
Ranma Tardis [09:42]
Shep Titian [09:42] I propose we adjourn
Moonrise Azalee [09:42] second
Ranma Tardis [09:42] second
[09:43] aye
Moonrise Azalee [09:43] aye
Shep Titian [09:43] aye
[09:43] Finis