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April 15, 2019 Transcript

Post by Rosie Gray » Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:07 pm

[2019/04/15 12:04] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): good afternoon friends :) i'd like to call today's RA meeting to order :)
[2019/04/15 12:04] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): first, administrative business, review and approve agenda. everyone should have it in the most recent CDS group notice, plus a copy is in the box on the table
[2019/04/15 12:05] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): has everyone been able to review the agenda?
[2019/04/15 12:05] Rosie Gray: /me nods
[2019/04/15 12:05] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): i have
[2019/04/15 12:05] Rosie Gray: motion to approve the Agenda as presented
[2019/04/15 12:05] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): Second
[2019/04/15 12:05] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): thank you. please vote to approve the agenda as presented :)
[2019/04/15 12:05] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): aye
[2019/04/15 12:06] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): Aye
[2019/04/15 12:06] Rosie Gray: aye
[2019/04/15 12:06] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): thank you, motion passes :)
[2019/04/15 12:06] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): and now, please review the minutes from the 1-april meeting
[2019/04/15 12:06] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8919
[2019/04/15 12:07] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): has everyone reviewed the minutes?
[2019/04/15 12:07] Rosie Gray: /me nods
[2019/04/15 12:07] Rosie Gray: since I wrote them ;)
[2019/04/15 12:07] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): good job rosie! :)
[2019/04/15 12:07] Rosie Gray: lol, thanks
[2019/04/15 12:07] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): Yes
[2019/04/15 12:08] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): may we have a motion to approve the minutes as written?
[2019/04/15 12:08] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): So moved
[2019/04/15 12:08] Rosie Gray: second
[2019/04/15 12:08] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): and now please vote to approve the minutes as presented
[2019/04/15 12:08] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): aye
[2019/04/15 12:08] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): aye
[2019/04/15 12:08] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): rosie?
[2019/04/15 12:08] Rosie Gray: aye
[2019/04/15 12:08] Oakwood Nightfire: is online.
[2019/04/15 12:08] Rosie Gray: sorry
[2019/04/15 12:09] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): thank you motion passes
[2019/04/15 12:09] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): next the executive report. Chancellor, please?
[2019/04/15 12:09] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): /me bows humbly
[2019/04/15 12:09] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): We have had a modest drop in parcel occupancy
[2019/04/15 12:09] Rosie Gray: /me admires the chancellor's kimono
[2019/04/15 12:10] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): Thus profitability is down 3% from 3/12/2019 to 4/6/2019 to 109%,.
[2019/04/15 12:10] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): (100% is break even)
[2019/04/15 12:10] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): This is still above where we were in December through early February.
[2019/04/15 12:10] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): a side-note
[2019/04/15 12:10] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): yes?
[2019/04/15 12:11] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): It seems to me watching this over time that it is a normal seasonal fluctuation
[2019/04/15 12:11] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): Since April 6 it has stabilized a bit with a couple of new citizens.
[2019/04/15 12:11] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): Monastery unusually has three parcels available, including Seaview 1, which, in my judgment has the best view of a 512 sq m. in our sims. Friedsee also has several delightful parcels available.
[2[2019/04/15 12:11] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): We will work on raising occupancy at the executive end, but if you know someone who might enjoy our community, don't be shy about inviting them over. We can do real estate tours for them :)
[2019/04/15 12:12] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): (Did I mention that Seaview 1 rocks?)
[2019/04/15 12:12] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): this seems to be well within the seasonal variances. january is typically a high point.
[2019/04/15 12:12] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): actually January was a low point this year
[2019/04/15 12:13] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): It picked up in mid-February
[2019/04/15 12:13] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): The latest census shows us at 64 citizens, up 2 from the previous census.
[2019/04/15 12:13] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): As for elections... The Scientific Council is in charge of those.
[2019/04/15 12:14] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): We had a great event with Naftali Torok, christening Stella Marina as a great party venue..
[2019/04/15 12:14] Rosie Gray: Indeed, and we are waiting for the Scientific Council to fullfill their responsibilities as to the election cycle
[2019/04/15 12:14] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): And thanks to all who came and enjoyed Natftali's stellar performance
[2019/04/15 12:14] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): Pun intended
[2019/04/15 12:15] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): :)
[2019/04/15 12:15] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): the census was taken as required per the SC's citizen status dates for voting and candidacy, correct?
[2019/04/15 12:15] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): Still waiting on updates from ROMA concerning the end of April
[2019/04/15 12:15] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): May's event with be our version of Chicago's famous "Venetian Night", with fireworks, a boat decorating contest and a DJ and a live performer.
[2019/04/15 12:16] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): The format and timing are still under consideration, but will be the weekend of May 18-19.
[2019/04/15 12:16] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): done
[2019/04/15 12:16] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): this will be an exciting weekend in May, ty :)
[2019/04/15 12:16] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): it will :)
[2019/04/15 12:16] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): so find your boat and start decorating
[2019/04/15 12:16] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): thank you for the citizen data and census information. the census was taken as required per the SC's citizen status dates for voting and candidacy, correct?
[2019/04/15 12:18] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): One more thing
[2019/04/15 12:18] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): yes, please
[2019/04/15 12:18] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): The welcome committee is about to wake up
[2019/04/15 12:18] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): MadMax has agreed to serve on it with us.
[2019/04/15 12:18] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): /really done
[2019/04/15 12:18] Rosie Gray: excellent
[2019/04/15 12:18] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): he will be an excellent ambassador :)
[2019/04/15 12:18] Rosie Gray: ㋡
[2019/04/15 12:18] Rosie Gray: /me raises a hand
[2019/04/15 12:18] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): yes rosie?
[2019/04/15 12:19] Rosie Gray: I'd like to address the issue of the next election
[2019/04/15 12:19] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): Is anyone ready to answer the question our LRA asked us twice before?
[2019/04/15 12:19] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): please rosie, i'm concerned
[2019/04/15 12:19] Rosie Gray: according to the posted dates from the SC, the Dean of the SC should have notified the citizens of electin dates on April 4th
[2019/04/15 12:19] Rosie Gray: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing
[2019/04/15 12:20] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): Oh...
[2019/04/15 12:20] Rosie Gray: here is a link to the spreadsheet that the Dean made
[2019/04/15 12:20] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): yes, and i understand that the census recently taken was in support of qualification dates?
[2019/04/15 12:20] Rosie Gray: the next cycle will be the 31st, so you can see the timelines
[2019/04/15 12:21] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): yes re: the 2 censuses
[2019/04/15 12:21] Rosie Gray: so, hopefully the Dean of the SC will be reading this transcript
[2019/04/15 12:21] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): i understand, that while this is the Scientific Council's responsibility, the Dean has been unavailable
[2019/04/15 12:21] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): there is another deadline on Wednesday
[2019/04/15 12:21] Rosie Gray: and I urge him to get onto it while we are still within the ballpark
[2019/04/15 12:21] Rosie Gray: yes
[2019/04/15 12:21] Rosie Gray: did you hear something about the Dean being unavailable?
[2019/04/15 12:21] Rosie Gray: I haven't heard anything
[2019/04/15 12:22] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): is there some backstop, alternate process, if the Dead fails in the process?
[2019/04/15 12:22] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): i have not heard that the Dean is "unavailable". only that he is "not responsive"
[2019/04/15 12:22] Rosie Gray: let's hope that's not a freudian slip, Lyubov ;)
[2019/04/15 12:22] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): Hehehe
[2019/04/15 12:22] Rosie Gray: ah, yes so it seems
[2019/04/15 12:22] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): the Dean Shall Rise! :)
[2019/04/15 12:23] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): Let's hope :)
[2019/04/15 12:23] Rosie Gray: for our records, according to the spreadsheet, there should be a call for candidates announced on the 17th, in 2 days
[2019/04/15 12:23] Rosie Gray: done
[2019/04/15 12:23] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): do we have any alternate methods to contact the Dean, or may an alternate send the required notices?
[2019/04/15 12:23] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): ty rosie
[2019/04/15 12:23] Rosie Gray: it's not our responsibility, Lyubov
[2019/04/15 12:24] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): it may not be our responsiblity, but it needs to be done
[2019/04/15 12:24] Rosie Gray: it has been done by Lilith
[[2019/04/15 12:24] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): ok. thank you for helping to clarify Rosie, and ty Chancellor for your repprt
[2019/04/15 12:25] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): next on the Agenda, back to Rosie for the LUC report. i undertand that the meeting failed to achieve quorom yesterday?
[2019/04/15 12:25] Rosie Gray: yes that's correct
[2019/04/15 12:25] Rosie Gray: so, no report
[2019/04/15 12:25] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): the Chancellor did report a wonderful event at Stella Marina :)
[2019/04/15 12:26] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): It is made for parties
[2019/04/15 12:26] Rosie Gray: it was great to hear Naftali playing again in SL
[2019/04/15 12:26] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): we were hoping for our past-due new Covenant to be drafted or disccussed at the LUC...when will the next LUC meeting be then?
[2019/04/15 12:26] Rosie Gray: I don't know Lyubov
[2019/04/15 12:26] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): ok
[2019/04/15 12:26] Rosie Gray: I have to canvas the committee to see
[2019/04/15 12:27] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): next the MoCA working group report...i understand there is "no report" here as well?
[2019/04/15 12:27] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): Right
[2019/04/15 12:27] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): has the group met yet?
[2019/04/15 12:27] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): I've sort of been waiting for the new museum to formally open
[2019/04/15 12:28] Second Life: Now playing: Gabrielle Riel - ID/PSA - NeoVictoria ~ visit the Steampunk skymall [2Aw]
[2019/04/15 12:28] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): Just so we have that as part of the equation
[2019/04/15 12:28] Rosie Gray: good idea
[2019/04/15 12:28] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): They are separate, obviously, but
[2019/04/15 12:28] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): maybe MoCA should instead continue with its plans? the Museum seems to have its own schedule?
[2019/04/15 12:28] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): well anyway
[[2019/04/15 12:28] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): How about May?
[2019/04/15 12:29] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): We'll either have a report,
[2019/04/15 12:29] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): May for a MoCA report?
[2019/04/15 12:29] Rosie Gray: /me raises a hand
[2019/04/15 12:29] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): o rnot
[2019/04/15 12:29] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): yes Rosie?
[2019/04/15 12:29] Rosie Gray: just to ppoint out that we have a couple of items on the New Business list here, that affect the MoCa
[2019/04/15 12:29] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): ok
[2019/04/15 12:29] Rosie Gray: so it might work out better this way anyway
[2019/04/15 12:30] Rosie Gray: done
[2019/04/15 12:30] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): ty rosie :)
[2019/04/15 12:30] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): I didn't mean to be flippant
[2019/04/15 12:30] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): It's just been a busy couple of months for me in all lives
[2019/04/15 12:31] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): ty re MoCA report. we'll look again during the next RA meeting
[2019/04/15 12:31] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): next, do we have any Citizen Concerns?
[2019/04/15 12:31] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): Max, Awen?
[2019/04/15 12:31] Awenbunny Lisle: hmm
[2019/04/15 12:32] MadmaxSoulLover Resident: Nothing I can think of
[2019/04/15 12:32] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): ty :) we'll move on now to RA member concerns then
[2019/04/15 12:32] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): any RA concerns?
[2019/04/15 12:32] Rosie Gray: Awen is typing
[2019/04/15 12:32] Awenbunny Lisle: nothing i can put my finger on right off hand
[2019/04/15 12:32] Rosie Gray: ah okay
[2019/04/15 12:32] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): ty awen :)
[2019/04/15 12:32] Awenbunny Lisle: sorry im still watching the church burn =(
[2019/04/15 12:33] Rosie Gray: awh :(
[2019/04/15 12:33] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): :(
[2019/04/15 12:33] Rosie Gray: yes I have a concern
[2019/04/15 12:33] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): Yes such a tragedy
[2019/04/15 12:33] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): yes Rosie, please?
[2019/04/15 12:33] Rosie Gray: my concern is the lack of follow through by the SC on the election
[2019/04/15 12:33] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): i agree
[2019/04/15 12:33] Rosie Gray: I know we've already mentioned it, but I just wanted to note it again
[2019/04/15 12:34] Awenbunny Lisle: oh. yes we need a way of using our combined prim allowance on our main building. Richie and I
[2019/04/15 12:34] Awenbunny Lisle: deeding it makes us not citizens
[2019/04/15 12:34] Rosie Gray: because if the election dates pass without action, then we are looking at something different
[2019/04/15 12:34] Awenbunny Lisle: and owning it separately makes it not usable
[2019/04/15 12:34] Rosie Gray: Awen, that is how citizenship works
[2019/04/15 12:35] Rosie Gray: you can always buy a prim parcel to add prims to whichever parcel you wish
[2019/04/15 12:35] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): You could make a group and have things group owned
[2019/04/15 12:35] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): you might deed it to use the combined building then each buy small parcels for citizenship
[2019/04/15 12:35] Awenbunny Lisle: yes im not allowed to own one and be counted as a citizen
[2019/04/15 12:35] Rosie Gray: you are a citizen because you own one now
[2019/04/15 12:35] Awenbunny Lisle: yes but we cant use it for the prims
[2019/04/15 12:36] Rosie Gray: but no, you can't deed
[2019/04/15 12:36] Awenbunny Lisle: right
[2019/04/15 12:36] Rosie Gray: that is correct
[2019/04/15 12:36] Awenbunny Lisle: so we own a plot we dont use
[2019/04/15 12:36] Rosie Gray: you need to buy a prim parcel if you want to add more prims
[2019/04/15 12:36] Awenbunny Lisle: and cant use
[2019/04/15 12:36] Awenbunny Lisle: we had to do that too
[2019/04/15 12:36] Awenbunny Lisle: so we own three parcels
[2019/04/15 12:36] Rosie Gray: /me nods
[2019/04/15 12:36] Rosie Gray: that's how it works
[2019/04/15 12:37] Rosie Gray: if you don't want to be a citizen, go ahead and deed your parcels, but so long as you understand what that means
[2019/04/15 12:37] Rosie Gray: you cannot have it both ways I'm afraid
[2019/04/15 12:37] Awenbunny Lisle: yes i know thats how it works now
[2019/04/15 12:37] Awenbunny Lisle: we think its a bad way to be arranged * smile * and should be revisited
[2019/04/15 12:38] Awenbunny Lisle: =))
[2019/04/15 12:38] Rosie Gray: this is the law
[2019/04/15 12:38] Rosie Gray: and it has been discussed many times in the past
[2019/04/15 12:38] Awenbunny Lisle: you asked so im telling you .
[2019/04/15 12:38] Rosie Gray: but you are welcome to bring up the topic on the forums
[2019/04/15 12:38] Rosie Gray: /me nods
[2019/04/15 12:38] Rosie Gray: thank you
[[2019/04/15 12:39] Awenbunny Lisle: thank you * smile *
[2019/04/15 12:39] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): ty Awen.
[2019/04/15 12:39] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): and thank you rosie both for that clarificatino and also voicing the concern with the SC re elections
[2019/04/15 12:39] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): any other concerns?
[[2019/04/15 12:40] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): next old business.
[2019/04/15 12:40] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): Amending CDSL 17-01 Citizen Notification Act
[2019/04/15 12:40] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): the proposed change has been posted to the Forum in two places for over 2 weeks now and a CDS Group notice with the language was also sent 2 weeks ago
[2019/04/15 12:40] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8907
[2019/04/15 12:41] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): have all RA members had the chance to review this new language?
[2019/04/15 12:41] Rosie Gray: I have
[2019/04/15 12:41] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): Yes.
[2019/04/15 12:41] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): and a rosie said "i wrote it " :)
[2019/04/15 12:41] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): I found no objections to the wording, only acclamations
[2019/04/15 12:42] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): thank you Em
[2019/04/15 12:42] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): i would like to motion that we approve this new language as the new text, replacing Amending CDSL 17-01 Citizen Notification Act. i will paste the text now:
[2019/04/15 12:43] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): New proposed text for CDSL 17-01:
1. Posting information on the CDS forums and via in-world notice with attached notecard to the CDS group will be considered to be sufficient notice of changes which affect citizens.

2. This Act shall apply only to general, public actions, and not to private actions (such as covenant enforcement and foreclosure for not paying tier)

3. Laws take Effect as soon as they are Written to the Portal

4. Proposed budgets must be Posted at least 7 days before the RA may vote to approve

5. Proposed laws or amendments to laws must be Posted for a minimum of 7 days before a vote on the law may be taken

6. All other actions of the RA, including agendas that specify proposals and administrative discussion must be Posted at least 24 hours before the scheduled meeting time

7. Definition: "Posting" is an in-world notice to the CDS group with attached notecard and a discussion topic in the relevant CDS Forum at forums.slcds.info

8. Definition: "Writing" is publishing to the Portal,
[2019/04/15 12:43] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): cdsdemocracy.org under Code of Laws
[2019/04/15 12:43] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): It is excellent. I second.
[2019/04/15 12:43] Rosie Gray: ㋡
[2019/04/15 12:44] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): and plase vote for this replacement to CDSL 17-01
[2019/04/15 12:44] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): aye
[2019/04/15 12:44] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): aye
[2019/04/15 12:44] Rosie Gray: aye
[2019/04/15 12:44] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): ty rosie :)
[2019/04/15 12:44] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): motion carries.
[2019/04/15 12:45] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): Rosie, are you able to Write this new language to the Portal, for the new language to become effective please?
[2019/04/15 12:45] Rosie Gray: absolutely
[2019/04/15 12:45] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): thank you rosie!
[2019/04/15 12:45] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): next, New Business
[2019/04/15 12:45] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): there are two, related MoCA laws that may be antiquated and we would like to review
[2019/04/15 12:46] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): 8.1 Review NL 4-12 MoCa Charter Acceptance Act
[2019/04/15 12:46] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): and 8.2 Review NL 4-13 MoCa Franchise Agreement
[2019/04/15 12:46] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): the text of the laws is in the Agenda in embedded notecards
[2019/04/15 12:46] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): i find the Franchise Agreement rather challengeing
[2019/04/15 12:47] Rosie Gray: it's all completely outdated
[2019/04/15 12:47] Rosie Gray: both of them are
[2019/04/15 12:47] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): Rosie, could you share your perspective please on these?
[2019/04/15 12:47] Rosie Gray: yes thanks
[2019/04/15 12:47] Rosie Gray: well, first the Charter Acceptance Act
[2019/04/15 12:47] Rosie Gray: it references the City of Neualtenburg, which is no more
[2019/04/15 12:48] Rosie Gray: other than that it seems to serve no purpose
[2019/04/15 12:48] Rosie Gray: I would like to motion to move this to Archaic Code, since it pertains to before we had the CDS as such
[2019/04/15 12:49] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): as i read it, the essence is: "make a museum to help Neualtenburg have a great city"
[2019/04/15 12:49] Rosie Gray: yeah, and we don't have Neualtenburg anymore
[2019/04/15 12:49] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): plus too many where ases
[2019/04/15 12:49] Rosie Gray: haven't for many years
[2019/04/15 12:49] Rosie Gray: hehe, someone got wordy
[2019/04/15 12:49] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): lol yes Chancelor :)
[2019/04/15 12:50] Rosie Gray: it also references the Guild, but that Guild has been disbanded many years now
[2019/04/15 12:50] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): i would like to second your motion, to move NL 4-12 to "archaic code"
[2019/04/15 12:50] Rosie Gray: thank you
[2019/04/15 12:51] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): plese vote, to move NL 4-12 to Archaic COde
[2019/04/15 12:51] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): aye
[2019/04/15 12:51] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): Aye!
[2019/04/15 12:51] Rosie Gray: aye
[2019/04/15 12:51] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): motion passes!
[2019/04/15 12:51] Rosie Gray: hi Cathy
[2019/04/15 12:51] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): welcome Cathy
[2019/04/15 12:51] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): Hello Cathy
[2019/04/15 12:51] Cathy Sabre: Hello, RA
[2019/04/15 12:51] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): /me waves
[2019/04/15 12:51] Cathy Sabre: and guests
[2019/04/15 12:51] Rosie Gray: the second law there
[2019/04/15 12:51] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): ok, next a review of NL 4-13
[2019/04/15 12:51] Rosie Gray: NL 4-13
[2019/04/15 12:52] Rosie Gray: I think it needs a closer look
[2019/04/15 12:52] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): It's complicated
[2019/04/15 12:52] Rosie Gray: point 1 mentions 6 months, for a lease
[2019/04/15 12:52] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): yes
[2019/04/15 12:52] Rosie Gray: this doesn't happen, and probably hasn't for years
[2019/04/15 12:52] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): mmmm ok
[2019/04/15 12:52] Rosie Gray: point 2
[2019/04/15 12:53] Rosie Gray: again the Guild, which is no more
[2019/04/15 12:53] Rosie Gray: (fyi the current Guild is not the same Guild mentioned here)
[2019/04/15 12:53] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): Ah
[2019/04/15 12:53] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): oh
[2019/04/15 12:53] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): "maintain a level of activity "
[2019/04/15 12:53] Rosie Gray: point 3... mentionning Neualtenburg again, yes and a level of activity
[2019/04/15 12:54] Rosie Gray: there has been no activity there for several years at least
[2019/04/15 12:54] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): Not since I have been hhere
[2019/04/15 12:54] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): from October 2015
[2019/04/15 12:54] Rosie Gray: /me nods
[2019/04/15 12:54] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): "monthly reviews of accounts "
[2019/04/15 12:54] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): It seems to me to be a business relationship that dissolved quietly below the radar
[2019/04/15 12:54] Rosie Gray: so, really none of this is current
[2019/04/15 12:54] Rosie Gray: but it begs the question as to what do we actually want for the MoCa
[2019/04/15 12:55] Rosie Gray: yes, agreed Em
[2019/04/15 12:55] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): if this is Archaic, we have to truly re-visit what MoCA is about or what we (the citizens of cds) would like it to be
[2019/04/15 12:55] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): bingo
[2019/04/15 12:56] Rosie Gray: right now the MoCa is one of our public buildings, but under the auspices of the CDS MoCa group, or something like that (would have to look it up)
[2019/04/15 12:56] Rosie Gray: yes, agreed Lyubov
[2019/04/15 12:56] Rosie Gray: okay just found it, the group is MoCA Neufreistadt
[2019/04/15 12:57] Rosie Gray: founded by MoCAso Oh, which is likely someone's alt
[2019/04/15 12:57] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): A question, Ms LRA
[2019/04/15 12:57] Rosie Gray: Delia has been the last curator
[2019/04/15 12:57] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): how do you propose we move forward Rosie? we could remove this as Archaic. we can begin a Form discussion on what MoCA should be going forward...
[2019/04/15 12:57] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): yes Em, please?
[2019/04/15 12:58] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): Does anybody own the objects in the MoCa?
[2019/04/15 12:58] Rosie Gray: /me waits for Em
[2019/04/15 12:58] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): Or are they group owned
[2019/04/15 12:58] Rosie Gray: yes Delia owns a lot of them, and a lot of them are owned by the original artists
[2019/04/15 12:59] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): So a decision is needed what to do with the existing objects, if the citizens want something new from MoCa
[2019/04/15 12:59] Rosie Gray: so as it is, the current laws on the books are outdated, yes I motion that we move NL 4-13 MoCA Franchise Agreement to ARchaic Laws, and post a thread on the forums to discuss the MoCA
[2019/04/15 13:00] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): /me agrees with Rosie
[2019/04/15 13:00] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): Perhaps we should make an addition
[2019/04/15 13:00] Rosie Gray: what are you thinking, Em?
[2019/04/15 13:00] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): That the RA hereby erases the former agreements
[2019/04/15 13:01] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): We make a Tabula Rasa
[2019/04/15 13:01] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): i am good with tthat Rosie
[2019/04/15 13:01] Rosie Gray: I don't understand how you mean that, Em
[2019/04/15 13:01] Rosie Gray: can you explain?
[2019/04/15 13:03] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): I just want it to be clear that we not only moves the two Acts to the Archive, we also state that the old agreements are no longer valid
[2019/04/15 13:03] Rosie Gray: well we can repeal them
[2019/04/15 13:03] Rosie Gray: that would accomplish that
[2019/04/15 13:03] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): Good
[2019/04/15 13:03] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): there is currently an outstanding motion to move NL 4-13 to Archaic
[2019/04/15 13:04] Rosie Gray: I withdraw the motion
[2019/04/15 13:04] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): ty rosie
[2019/04/15 13:04] Rosie Gray: Motion to move NL 4-13 to repealed laws
[2019/04/15 13:04] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): Second
[2019/04/15 13:05] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): ty, plese vote whether to move NL 4-13 to Repealed Laws
[2019/04/15 13:05] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): aye
[2019/04/15 13:05] Rosie Gray: aye
[2019/04/15 13:05] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): aye
[2019/04/15 13:05] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): ty motion passes :)
[2019/04/15 13:05] Rosie Gray: and, if I may
[2019/04/15 13:05] Rosie Gray: motion to start a thread on the CDS forums to initiate conversation about the purpose of, and the running of the MoCA, and what its future should be
[2019/04/15 13:05] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): rosie, a second part of your previous motion was to post to the Forum the question of what shall MoCA be in the future...
[2019/04/15 13:05] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): yes, Rosie, please go ahead
[2019/04/15 13:06] Rosie Gray: motion to start a thread on the CDS forums to initiate conversation about the purpose of, and the running of the MoCA, and what its future should be
[2019/04/15 13:06] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): second
[2019/04/15 13:07] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): thank you. please vote on the motion to " start a thread on the CDS forums to initiate conversation about the purpose of, and the running of the MoCA, and what its future should be"
[2019/04/15 13:07] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): aye
[2019/04/15 13:07] Rosie Gray: aye
[2019/04/15 13:07] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): aye
[2019/04/15 13:07] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): thank you , motion passes :)
[2019/04/15 13:07] Rosie Gray: :0
[2019/04/15 13:08] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): now, how does this affect our earlier discussion re MoCA Working Group and NL 3-6 MoCA Act?
[2019/04/15 13:08] Rosie Gray: since nothing has happened yet with the MoCa working group, I think that it is perfect timing
[2019/04/15 13:09] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): should this Working Group and concept be tabled until we have a discussion about the future of MoCA...
[2019/04/15 13:09] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): (yes please)
[2019/04/15 13:09] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): Chancellor, may i ask for your thoughts?
[2019/04/15 13:09] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): yes please :)
[2019/04/15 13:09] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): table away so we can start with a clean slate
[2019/04/15 13:09] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): done
[2019/04/15 13:09] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): ty Chancellor, and for Rosie's perfect timing :)
[2019/04/15 13:09] Rosie Gray: ㋡
[2019/04/15 13:10] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): any other thoughts before we move on to General Announcements?
[2019/04/15 13:10] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): The chariots await me....
[2019/04/15 13:10] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): /me bows humbly
[2019/04/15 13:10] Rosie Gray: bye Kyoko
[2019/04/15 13:10] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): Take care Kyoko
[2019/04/15 13:11] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): Next General Announcewments: i would like to welcome our CDS Citizens, SDolphin and MadMax to the Lyuba's Game Center DJ schedule :)
[2019/04/15 13:11] Kyoko Furse-Barzane: left the region.
[2019/04/15 13:11] Rosie Gray: oh my
[2019/04/15 13:11] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): Max will be doing a regular Sunday set and SDolphin on Saturday
[2019/04/15 13:11] Rosie Gray: that's exciting, Lyubov
[2019/04/15 13:12] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): i'm excited! and i know Max is too! :D
[2019/04/15 13:12] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): You are are a good head hunter, Lyuobov
[2019/04/15 13:12] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): :) i know how to put good men to work! :)
[2019/04/15 13:12] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): any other General Announcemnts?
[2019/04/15 13:12] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): :)
[2019/04/15 13:13] Rosie Gray: not from me
[2019/04/15 13:13] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): None from me
[2019/04/15 13:13] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): ty
[2019/04/15 13:13] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): Next Meeting...
[2019/04/15 13:13] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): monday the 29-april is 2 weeks, correct?
[2019/04/15 13:13] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): we hope to start a MoCA forum discussion before then
[2019/04/15 13:14] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): this is also in the midst of the start of the campaign season?
[2019/04/15 13:14] Rosie Gray: yes
[2019/04/15 13:14] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): i was thinking to propose an alternate week, so we are not back-to-back against the LUC meeting days...
[2019/04/15 13:14] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): I am in hospital on the 29th, but I I think I'll be fit for a session behind the computer in the evening
[2019/04/15 13:14] Rosie Gray: and our next meeting of the 30th sessions will be the end of May
[2019/04/15 13:14] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): but that deosn't appear to be a concern for now
[2019/04/15 13:15] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): ok ty Rosie
[2019/04/15 13:15] Rosie Gray: oh are you sure, Em?
[2019/04/15 13:15] Rosie Gray: we could wait 1 more week
[2019/04/15 13:15] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): Almost...
[2019/04/15 13:15] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): i'm traveling....so it's not convenient but i can make anything (mostly) work
[2019/04/15 13:15] Rosie Gray: oops, not 1 more week, sorry
[2019/04/15 13:16] Rosie Gray: we could try for the weekend instead?
[2019/04/15 13:16] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): we could let me see my calendar...
[2019/04/15 13:16] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): When is your travel ended, Lyuobov?
[2019/04/15 13:16] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): sometime in May, so no worries, lol
[2019/04/15 13:17] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): we can't wait that long :)
[2019/04/15 13:17] Rosie Gray: what about May 6th then?
[2019/04/15 13:17] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): we can try the weekend before, saturday or sunday the 27 or 28?
[2019/04/15 13:17] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): Weekends are usually OK for me
[2019/04/15 13:17] Rosie Gray: oh, 27th or 28th is okay for me
[2019/04/15 13:18] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): Preferably the Saturday, because I'll have company Sunday evening (which is !2:== SL time)
[2019/04/15 13:18] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): i don't see anything on the CDS calendar until the Venetian CDS event on the 18th may
[2019/04/15 13:19] Rosie Gray: what about your events, Lyubov?
[2019/04/15 13:19] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): Dolphin is Saturdays at 1400, Max Sundays at 1400
[2019/04/15 13:19] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): so 1200 RA is fine
[2019/04/15 13:19] Rosie Gray: okay
[2019/04/15 13:19] Rosie Gray: would it work to be earlier?
[2019/04/15 13:19] Rosie Gray: say 10 am slt?
[2019/04/15 13:20] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): It works for me
[2019/04/15 13:20] Rosie Gray: I would prefer that
[2019/04/15 13:20] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): i can do 1000 on saturday the 27 april?
[2019/04/15 13:20] Rosie Gray: me too
[2019/04/15 13:20] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): Me too
[2019/04/15 13:20] Rosie Gray: :D
[2019/04/15 13:21] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): ok motion for our next meeting to be saturday 27 april at 1000
[2019/04/15 13:21] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): Second
[2019/04/15 13:21] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): vote please
[2019/04/15 13:21] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): aye
[2019/04/15 13:21] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): aye
[2019/04/15 13:21] Rosie Gray: aye
[2019/04/15 13:21] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): ty motion passes :)
[2019/04/15 13:21] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): and i motion that we adjourn
[2019/04/15 13:21] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): Second
[2019/04/15 13:21] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): ty. vote please to adjour until 27 april at 1000
[2019/04/15 13:22] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): aye
[2019/04/15 13:22] Rosie Gray: aye
[2019/04/15 13:22] Em Warden (EmWarden Resident): aye
[2019/04/15 13:22] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): ty motion passes.

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