Finance Working Group Meeting Sat 30 Sept - Transcript

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Finance Working Group Meeting Sat 30 Sept - Transcript

Post by Patroklus Murakami »

Jon, Diderot, Sudane (and others interested in joining the Finance Working Group). I think it's about time we got together to catch up on progress towards our second sim Colonia Nova.

I propose that we meet on [b:31iw1oit]Saturday 30 Sept at 6am SL time in the Rathaus[/b:31iw1oit] i.e. after the RA meeting.

Here's a draft agenda, feel free to post further ideas in response to this thread:

[b:31iw1oit]Agenda[/b:31iw1oit]
[list:31iw1oit]1. Budget
Do we have any more details of what the costs of building etc will be? What information do we need to prepare a fully costed budget?

2. State of the Finances
How much money has already been pledged in firm loans or paid into the Treasury?

3. Roles and Responsibilities
What are our expectations for key figures in this process? What do we expect the Leader of the SPC, the Chancellor, the Finance Working Group members to do? Are responsibilities clear so that decisions can be taken by the right people at the right time?

4. Next Steps
When do we need to meet again? What are the key milestones towards completion of the project?[/list:u:31iw1oit]

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edited to change time to 6am after feedback

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I'll try to submit some proposed figures for a promotion campaign leading up to and through the launch of the sim for you guys to work with. I'll post a copy here and drop you a notecard inworld.

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Sorry.. sorry.. sorry... RL family responsibilities are taking me away early on Saturday. I can meet up until 10 AM SLT on Saturday, or after 11 AM SLT on Sunday.

Sudane.....

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Rescheduling

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How about making it 6am on Saturday i.e. after the RA meeting?

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Good for me :).

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Works for me.

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Hope I can wake up in time for both meetings. :) :shock:

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Decisions, Actions and Transcript of Meeting

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[b:10bnuv6q]Decisions[/b:10bnuv6q]:
[list:10bnuv6q]The Representative Assembly authorised the Guildmaster to raise loans for Colonia Nova. The Finance Working Group agreed that the GM would publicise the names of those making loans (unless they wished to remain anonymous) and the total raised but that she would not publicise the amount each person had loaned.

The WG decided that donations would be accepted but that all donations would be anonymous and with 'no strings attached'.[/list:u:10bnuv6q]

[b:10bnuv6q]Actions[/b:10bnuv6q]:
[list:10bnuv6q]Pat to work with Sudane and Moon to draw up a detailed budget.

Pat to develop a draft project plan for discussion using the web project collaboration tool.

Pat to initiate a forum discussion on roles and responsibilities for the Colonia Nova project.[/list:u:10bnuv6q]
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[color=Black:10bnuv6q][i:10bnuv6q]Object-Name: notetaker 2.0.1[/i:10bnuv6q][/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Sienna:10bnuv6q][i:10bnuv6q]Region: Neufreistadt (246528, 249600)[/i:10bnuv6q][/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOliveGreen:10bnuv6q][i:10bnuv6q]Local-Position: (197, 184, 178)[/i:10bnuv6q][/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkGreen:10bnuv6q][i:10bnuv6q]Meeting on 2006-09-30[/i:10bnuv6q][/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateBlue:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Those present[/b:10bnuv6q]: [/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][i:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami is in the chair.[/i:10bnuv6q][/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: ok. we';re recording. pls touch to indicate consent etc[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][i:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn has indicated consent to be recorded.[/i:10bnuv6q][/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][i:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato has indicated consent to be recorded.[/i:10bnuv6q][/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: there's an agenda in the notecard giver on the table.[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: first off , any changes needed to the agenda?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: notecard giver not working for me[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkRed:10bnuv6q][i:10bnuv6q]Moon Adamant has indicated consent to be recorded.[/i:10bnuv6q][/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: no, me neither[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: drat[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: :)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: Do a script reset :)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: i'll see if can hand them out manually[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: thank you[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkRed:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Moon Adamant[/b:10bnuv6q]: Pat, i got it :)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: moon will haved to drop her forcefiled to get one[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: The last line on that notecard sadly is broken for me :)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: oh, ok[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: ject...[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: yes, my copy and pasting skills need work[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: any changes needed to the agenda?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: i'll take silence for contentment[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: so, 1. budget[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: looks good to me[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: we have a 'rough and ready' budget. an approximation for how much CN will take to set up[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: yes[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: what further information do we need to prepare a detailed budget?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: and how are we going tto get it?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: well your [oint in the agenda is well said[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: the biggest ?? is the cost of building[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: the purchase of the sim[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: yes, potentially[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: and the monthly tier[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: are reasily organized[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: there is also the PR component[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: so... I would say... building and PR[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: and we have a costed PR budget. we probably need to discuss some of the PR grouips detailed plans but that can wait[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: yes[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: how are we going to cost the building process?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: that was excellent[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: should we list builds and attach fees to each?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][i:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami looks at moon and hopes she isn't chopping onions[/i:10bnuv6q][/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: hehe Pat[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: hehe[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: i like your systematic approach sudane[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: she does have tears running down her face :)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: do we have a list of all builds that will be needed?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Olive:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Ashcroft Burnham[/b:10bnuv6q]: Cheerio for now... I must go and have lunch... :-)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: bye ash[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: bye ash :)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: Thanks Ash![/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: See you soon, Ash![/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Olive:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Ashcroft Burnham[/b:10bnuv6q]: Cheerio! :-)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: i think Moon has a good list[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: it sounds like this is doable then, it just needs liaison with moon. now, who's going to do it?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: i will avoid volunteering :)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][i:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami is trying not too, too[/i:10bnuv6q][/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: being swamped[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: actually... with moons list[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: attaching nominal fees[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: could be routine[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: and... they WILL be nominal[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: oops[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: eek![/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: :)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: we lost moon and gwyn, power cut in lisbon?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: or earthquake :)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: Maybe the onion knife hit the cat5 cable.[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: i do hope not[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: haha[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: hehe pel[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: lol[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: well, i was just going to volunteer to pull it together with moon and sudane's input[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: i'll surely help[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: I am SOOO swamped[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: I can hear the four lettered Portugese from here. :)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: wow, good hearing pel[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: they have no words only 4 letters long :)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: shall we move on to item 2? state of the finances. sudane, could you report?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: sure![/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: first let me say...[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: that i have thought a good policy to be[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: to list total funds raised[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: and the names of loaners[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: but not to list how much each person loaned[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: I am open on this matter[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: Right, if the loaner is ok with that.[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: yes[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: that sounds like a sensible policy to me[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: we should allow for anonymity though[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: kk... but I am open to discussion, it that needs to be revised[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: yes![/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: if a person wishes to remain aninymous[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: but should reject a demand that the donor's figure bepublicised[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: wb gwyn[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: yes[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: anyway[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: yay!![/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: and wb moon :)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: Lisbon is back!!![/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: wb[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkRed:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Moon Adamant[/b:10bnuv6q]: sorry everyone[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: (sorry, I think that the ADSL conenction hung up on us :P )[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: it wasn't an earthquake after all!!![/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkRed:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Moon Adamant[/b:10bnuv6q]: lol no[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: lol thankfully not :)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: :)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: so...[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: we have received actual loans[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: of US$500[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: and I have received verbals commitments....[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: of perhaps 1200 more[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: that does put us over the target 2000[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: since the city makes available 500[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: but I am averse to capping the project at 2000[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: should we aim to make use of city reserves? or should we aim to raise the full amount for CN throug loans?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: what kind of upper limit did you have in mind?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: i actually have no upper limit in mind[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: OMG the sky's the limit![/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: i am very pleased to demonstrate the confidence in NFS which the SL community has[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: if we are careful with our expenditures[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: i cannot see that raisinbg 3 times a smuch as needed is bad[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: As long as the interest obligation is not in jeopardy the limit is not an issue. IE, you don't want to take $2M USD because we may not be able to fund the interest.[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: thats exactly true[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: i think we will be able to put togehter a prudent budget[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: Right.[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: yes. Pat, i agree[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: how about donations? i'm not fundamentally opposed to them. but i think we should insist they are made anonymously if we're to accept them[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: Gywn I took a look at the bond act and although the RA specifically set a target amount for this loan issue, the bond act does give the GM leeway in loan issue amount.[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: well, I've stated my point about those in the forums, but your proposal is ok...[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: remember, the CN is basically a commercial proposal[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: i think we should avoid having 'i gave you all this money' used againnst us[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: yes!![/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: and we should basicallly make it a commercial proposition[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: but if ppl really want to donate something and expect nothign but warm fuzzy feelings in return, we should provide for that[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: thats fair, Pat[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: i didn't really understand youre bonds point pel[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: here we're raising the finances through loans[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: yes[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: I work at a non-profit where we take millions of dollars in donations. You probably want to avoid the "restricted gift" thing where the donation must be spent on project x.[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: oh yes, it should be a donation to establish CN but then with no strings attached[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: are we going to need notarised forms to make all this 'formal'? will the bureaucracy group provide those?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: Pat, the point is that Sudane, despite what the RA passed, should be able to set the upper limit herself (within reason).[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: Pat, for the loans?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: the RA limit was $2500 wasn't it?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: no, i don't think so[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: for the loans and donations[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: so everyone is clear the terms to which they have agreed[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: I have asked people to email me with the fact of their loan,[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: and I have acknowledged via reply[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: that makes 2 copies in writing[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: the terms are published in the forum[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: i'd like to avoid paper and notary, if possible[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: is that in the 'planning cn' bit ? i confess i haven't read them![/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: :)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: hmmm[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: I think i put iit in general... I forget[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: it was the "Solicitation for Loans"[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: i will have a look again after thsi meeting[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][i:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn tries to find it[/i:10bnuv6q][/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: kk[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: ahh... I should add???[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: the names who have contributed loand?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: I just see Aliasi's original post, hmm[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: so, we are going to prepare a detailed budget. we have the finances coming in and (fantastic news) we have the sim[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: almost there eh?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: :-)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][i:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami checks the forum[/i:10bnuv6q][/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: hehe yes[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: Also, some work has been begun by Sudane and Moon, I believe :) ... although that would be for the BWG[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: My bad, $2500[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: Sadly, the Bureaucrats seem to be an impossible-to-meet gang :P[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: Sorry Pat[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: http://forums.neufreistadt.info/viewtopic.php?t=360[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: its a post by Aliasi[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: ah thank you Sudane![/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: Ah ok :) lol that's what I saw.[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: I gave it to her to post[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: but I also sent out emails to the entire community[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: np pel. i need to look at the terms of the loan a litte more closelyl. i see that ash raised some concerns...[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: with the same text[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: I've had some offline chat with Sudane abou tit.[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: it.[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: (Freudian slip)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: hehe[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][i:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn giggles[/i:10bnuv6q][/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: *ahem*[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Green:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Lucifer Baphomet[/b:10bnuv6q]: hey, eggy[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Teal:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Eggy Lippmann[/b:10bnuv6q]: hey lucifer[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Green:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Lucifer Baphomet[/b:10bnuv6q]: how you doing?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Teal:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Eggy Lippmann[/b:10bnuv6q]: im ok i guess[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Teal:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Eggy Lippmann[/b:10bnuv6q]: a little sleepy[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: do eggy and lucifer know we're meeting up here?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: :)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: No, I expect that Egy is just stalking me.[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: They are well known Slers, no?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: with prok?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Teal:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Eggy Lippmann[/b:10bnuv6q]: hi everyone i was stalking moon[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: :)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: haha[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: Ah, lol[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: Eggy, you'll have to wait :)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: well, as long as you're keeping out of trouble....[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: Where are the MPs?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: :)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][i:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn is one[/i:10bnuv6q][/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: hehe[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Teal:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Eggy Lippmann[/b:10bnuv6q]: lets just go somewhere else to chat[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: on the loan terms. i think we need to take these as read for now[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: Sudane , another.[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Green:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Lucifer Baphomet[/b:10bnuv6q]: lol, if proks coming, i'm off[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: my joke luci[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][i:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn is Prok's alt, Lucipher. Surely you have known that all the time? :)[/i:10bnuv6q][/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: hehe[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: anyway.... back to the agenda[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: Ah, he's away.[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: The horror[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: item 3 ok?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: roles and responsibilities[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: my reason for putting this on the agenda, is that i want to avoid the 'neufreistadt problem'[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: well, the one we had before we established an exec[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: theres only one?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: oo[ps Pat... whats the name on the notecard?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: no clear areas of responsibility[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: i lost it in inventory :([/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: and thingks not getting done[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: CN Finance WG 30 Sept 06[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: true[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: ty![/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: so are we clear about who does what?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: hmmm[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: for example: who decides when the building work gets doenn? who's setting the timetable? when can we move in paying customers? etc[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: those are good questions[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: that's the chancellor, no?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][i:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami feels teh need for a project plan and a gantt chart[/i:10bnuv6q][/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: and i'd suggest that they all ibe in the SPC[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][i:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn thanks Pat for being so insistent on schedules[/i:10bnuv6q][/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: yes[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: is now scared because Pat sounds like my anal RL boss.[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: :)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: Aw pffty Pel :)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: hehe[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: i didnt' get where i am today without beiing youir anal boss[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: haha[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkRed:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Moon Adamant[/b:10bnuv6q]: sorry... more or less here till i have to go and do the salad[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: :)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: And you're right, Pat, do you want to suggest an online tool for doing those things? If not, there is always the wiki for that[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: hehe. /me thinks about being pel's 'anal boss'[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: How's the view ?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: kinky[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: ROFL[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][i:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn *covers her ears*[/i:10bnuv6q][/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: hehe[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: ok, i'll stop there :)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: I thought you had your head up *your* ass...ah well..ok[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: Gentlemen! Please![/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: well, i must admit i'm confused by the online tools. i've never used them before[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: right, sorry.[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: meant in jest.[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: Ah, ok. I'm always searching for online tools for project management,[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: perhaps i need to put some outline plans on for othes to critique and improve?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: all I know are really too klunky[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: There was some webcollab tool you all used right?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: Task subdivision would be great[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: and wes, Pel, it's still online.[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: *yes[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Olive:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Ashcroft Burnham[/b:10bnuv6q]: Hello again :-)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: wb ash[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Olive:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Ashcroft Burnham[/b:10bnuv6q]: Still on CN?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: http://neufreistadt.info/webcollab/[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Olive:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Ashcroft Burnham[/b:10bnuv6q]: You know, you could always have SPC meetings *in* CN now... ;-)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: YEs, Ash. Did you have a good lunch?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: yes, discussing the finer details of project planning[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Olive:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Ashcroft Burnham[/b:10bnuv6q]: Fine, thank you :-) Bread and cheese.[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: Ahhh moving the CDS capital? :D[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: yes, lets' have the next SPC finance wg in our new sim[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: noooo! :)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Olive:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Ashcroft Burnham[/b:10bnuv6q]: LOL![/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: i mean to moving the capital :)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Olive:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Ashcroft Burnham[/b:10bnuv6q]: It just seems fully to be discussing Colonia Nova in Neufreistadt ;-)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Olive:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Ashcroft Burnham[/b:10bnuv6q]: Funny, even.[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: well, when i called the meeting we didn't have colonia nova :)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: true :)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: The Republicans among us like central government ;)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Olive:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Ashcroft Burnham[/b:10bnuv6q]: Ahh, yes, fair enough :-)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: as opposed to the Federalists, I mean :)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Olive:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Ashcroft Burnham[/b:10bnuv6q]: Doesn't "republic" just mean a state without a head of state?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: well, to summarise on point three[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: ok[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: Ash ? let's argue about that later ;)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Olive:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Ashcroft Burnham[/b:10bnuv6q]: LOL! Fair enough ;-)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: i'll post a project outline on the web collab tool for discussion[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: great[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: and perhaps a post discussing roles and responsibilities on the forums[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: item 4, next steps[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: date of next meeting?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: Thanks Pat, I was just teasing. We just did a big Gantt chart in my RL Dept. and it's very useful.[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: just think yourselves lucky that i won't insist on a 'risk register'[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: hehe[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: What is that?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: and a 'benefits map'[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: Ah, ok hehe[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: SWOT analysis for CN.[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: I'll google those to impress my anal boss. (no pun intended)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: I have done one for LL :)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: Hmm, it could help doing one for CN, actually...[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][i:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn *scratches head*[/i:10bnuv6q][/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][i:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn makes a note.[/i:10bnuv6q][/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: yes, good idea gwyn[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: when do we need to meet again?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: do we need to meet again?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: :)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: My reasoning is: as soon as there is an outline for what requires budgeting and putting values to things,[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: Everyone knows their respective roles?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: and people in charge of those,[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: (if everyone knows that)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: the Chancellor can pick it from there[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: ... and the Finance WG can sort of self-extinguish itself ;) since it doesn't need to plan anything else.[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: i'm happy with that. no need to meet unless there's a reason to[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: Want to keep the Finance WG open for general CDS stuff? Isn't that a bill under scrutiny by the SC?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: so let's take the actions forward from today's meeting and, if all goes well, we shouldn't need to meet again.[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: Indeed, Pat, that would be my understanding as well. And I think that you guys are very close to what is still needed...[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: It is, Pelanor.[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: the group stays in operation though, as we may well hit snags[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: k[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: The SC is "going political" on that ;) Since now the financial roles are placed on the Treasurer,[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: kk[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: that bill is not required ;)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: sorry pel could you explain that point?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: we're onlyh for CN in my understanding[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Indigo:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:10bnuv6q]: Ah, Pat, there was a bill for introducing a "Financial Committee" to aid the Treasure with its role.[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkOrange:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Pelanor Eldrich[/b:10bnuv6q]: If this is a CN only group, we can wipe it out as needed. (see Gwyn)[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkSlateGray:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Sudane Erato[/b:10bnuv6q]: yes[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: ah yes, i recall now[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: right. well. unless there's anyo other business?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: we're at an end. i'll post the transcritp along with decisions and actions later today[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkRed:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Moon Adamant[/b:10bnuv6q]: pat, please forward me a copy of teh trnscript, since i crashed in middle?[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=DarkRed:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Moon Adamant[/b:10bnuv6q]: ah, ok[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Navy:10bnuv6q][b:10bnuv6q]Patroklus Murakami[/b:10bnuv6q]: i'll put it on the fourms[/color:10bnuv6q]
[color=Blue:10bnuv6q][i:10bnuv6q]The meeting closed at 6:56 Linden time.[/i:10bnuv6q][/color:10bnuv6q]

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