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22-11, LUC Meeting Transcript

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Land Use Commission – Meeting Minutes
Sunday November 22, 2020, 12:00 am SLT

LUC members: Almut - Chairperson, Delia - Pro Tempore, Sudane, Mizou – Secretary
Absent: Brooke – RA Rep
Guests: Kyoko, Callipygian , Jeremy Querilo (new citizen)


[2020/11/22 12:01] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): Hi Almut
[2020/11/22 12:02] Almut Brunswick: It seems that everybody has different plans today
[2020/11/22 12:02] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): oh?
[2020/11/22 12:02] Almut Brunswick: yes, Oh? is the right reaction :D
[2020/11/22 12:02] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): maybe we should postpone the meeting then?
[2020/11/22 12:02] Almut Brunswick: nah
[2020/11/22 12:02] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): we need a quorum
[2020/11/22 12:02] Almut Brunswick: Sudane is coming
[2020/11/22 12:03] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): ok
[2020/11/22 12:03] Almut Brunswick: Helo Sudane!
[2020/11/22 12:03] Sudane Erato: ahhhh... coffee!
[2020/11/22 12:03] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): Hi Sudane
[2020/11/22 12:03] Sudane Erato: hey :)
[2020/11/22 12:03] Almut Brunswick: The Sluice has been approved by our Chancellor Rosie before she left to her Blender class
[2020/11/22 12:03] Sudane Erato: great :)
[2020/11/22 12:03] Almut Brunswick: but she made the walkway that narrow
[2020/11/22 12:03] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): Hi Kyoko
[2020/11/22 12:03] Almut Brunswick: Hello Kyoko!
[2020/11/22 12:04] Brooke Brandenburg: is offline.
[2020/11/22 12:04] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): hi there
[2020/11/22 12:04] Sudane Erato: i thought it was changed
[2020/11/22 12:05] Brooke Brandenburg: is online.
[2020/11/22 12:05] Almut Brunswick: Admittedly it is a bit improvised, but this way we are close to our two main topics :D
[2020/11/22 12:05] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): I need to sit for meetings LOL
[2020/11/22 12:05] Sudane Erato: hehe
[2020/11/22 12:05] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): me too getting some seats
[2020/11/22 12:05] Sudane Erato: us with the old bones :)
[2020/11/22 12:06] Sudane Erato: hey jeremy :)
[2020/11/22 12:06] Jeremy (jeremy.querilo): Hello
[2020/11/22 12:06] Almut Brunswick: Yes we do, Delia
[2020/11/22 12:06] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): Hi Jeremy
[2020/11/22 12:06] Sudane Erato: Calli! :)
[2020/11/22 12:06] Almut Brunswick: Actually Lilith had promised a mulled wine booth, but she doesn't seem to be around today
[2020/11/22 12:07] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): Hi everybody, gosh i thought that we were having nobody a few minutes ago
[2020/11/22 12:07] Almut Brunswick: but feel free to grab a coffee!
[2020/11/22 12:07] Almut Brunswick: We can ask Brooke if she wants to attend
[2020/11/22 12:07] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): no wine Almut?
[2020/11/22 12:07] Sudane Erato: hehe
[2020/11/22 12:07] Delia Lake: mulled wine sounds perfect actually. I just came down through AM and there's a freezing rain at the top of the hill there
[2020/11/22 12:08] Almut Brunswick: Oh when you have wine, don't resist to have a glass!
[2020/11/22 12:08] Delia Lake: NFS might even have some snow flurries tonight
[2020/11/22 12:08] Sudane Erato: omg... snow flurries!
[2020/11/22 12:08] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): /me is shivering
[2020/11/22 12:08] Sudane Erato: i'll have to bank up the fire
[2020/11/22 12:09] Delia Lake: yes. time to light the fireplaces
[2020/11/22 12:09] Almut Brunswick: Ok, has everybody got the (short) agenda for today?
[2020/11/22 12:09] Delia Lake: and wear a sweater
[2020/11/22 12:09] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): there you go wine and cheese
[2020/11/22 12:09] Delia Lake: no I dont have the agenda
[2020/11/22 12:09] Sudane Erato: i don't think i have it
[2020/11/22 12:10] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): Almut. I think you have made a nice brunch spot ;)
[2020/11/22 12:10] Sudane Erato: hehe... yes! :)
[2020/11/22 12:10] Almut Brunswick: smiles, Kyoko, I had this idea in my head
[2020/11/22 12:11] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): love your table
[2020/11/22 12:11] Almut Brunswick: everybody was scraming "tooo biiiig, tooo monstrous!" And now it is getting narrow under that oak tree :D
[2020/11/22 12:11] Almut Brunswick: smiles, thank you! The most typical German piece of furniture, I suppose
[2020/11/22 12:12] Delia Lake: it is not too narrow
[2020/11/22 12:12] Delia Lake: everyone fits
[2020/11/22 12:12] Almut Brunswick: Well yes, for the LUC it is perfect
[2020/11/22 12:12] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): Hi Delia
[2020/11/22 12:12] Almut Brunswick: So when everybody is ready and set and supplied with beverages and food, we can start
[2020/11/22 12:13] Almut Brunswick: Still anybody without agenda?
[2020/11/22 12:13] Sudane Erato: I'm ready :)
[2020/11/22 12:13] Almut Brunswick: So for the records: I call our last meeting for this term to order at 12:13 PM SLT
[2020/11/22 12:13] Jeremy (jeremy.querilo): I am a new citizen
[2020/11/22 12:13] Sudane Erato: Welcome!
[2020/11/22 12:14] Almut Brunswick: Welcome, jeremy!
[2020/11/22 12:14] Delia Lake: hello and welcome, Jeremy
[2020/11/22 12:14] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): Yes Laura and I helped Jeremy settle in
[2020/11/22 12:14] Delia Lake: things are so sloow for rezzing for me today
[2020/11/22 12:14] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): Welcome Jeremy
[2020/11/22 12:14] Sudane Erato: Neat :)
[2020/11/22 12:14] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): no agenda Almut
[2020/11/22 12:14] Delia Lake: Hi Calli. I just saw you here
[2020/11/22 12:15] Almut Brunswick: Just a short note what we are doing here: The Land Use Committee is a joining commission made up of delegated citizens to decide about the use of public land
[2020/11/22 12:15] Jeremy (jeremy.querilo): Yes thank you and Mizou showed me around
[2020/11/22 12:15] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): :)
[2020/11/22 12:15] Second Life: Almut Brunswick gave you LUC Agenda November 22, 2020.
[2020/11/22 12:15] Callipygian Christensen: Hi Delia and everyone - sat and was afk
[2020/11/22 12:15] Sudane Erato: wb :)
[2020/11/22 12:16] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): rl cats need feeding
[2020/11/22 12:16] Almut Brunswick: Are there any additions to today's agenda?
[2020/11/22 12:16] Sudane Erato: I move we accept it
[2020/11/22 12:17] Almut Brunswick: (the cats have eaten Mizou's first copy of the agenda)
[2020/11/22 12:17] Sudane Erato: omg
[2020/11/22 12:17] Almut Brunswick: Ok, my aye then
[2020/11/22 12:17] Sudane Erato: aye
[2020/11/22 12:17] Almut Brunswick: Delia?
[2020/11/22 12:17] Delia Lake: I don’t have the agenda
[2020/11/22 12:17] Almut Brunswick: (Brooke won't come because there is no need to report to the RA anymore, she said...)
[2020/11/22 12:18] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): back
[2020/11/22 12:18] Almut Brunswick: wb
[2020/11/22 12:18] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): did i miss something?
[2020/11/22 12:18] Sudane Erato: vote to approve agenda
[2020/11/22 12:18] Almut Brunswick: I just asked if there are any additions or objections about the agenda
[2020/11/22 12:18] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): aye
[2020/11/22 12:18] Almut Brunswick: Delia is supplied now too?
[2020/11/22 12:19] Sudane Erato: we should have a notecard giver to make it easier on you
[2020/11/22 12:19] Almut Brunswick: Ok, 3. Discussion and approval of the recent meeting minutes (November 8, 2020)
[2020/11/22 12:19] Jeremy (jeremy.querilo): I’ve got the agenda.
[2020/11/22 12:19] Almut Brunswick: The agenda is actually always sent a day before
[2020/11/22 12:19] Sudane Erato: Minutes looked good to me
[2020/11/22 12:19] Delia Lake: agenda looks fine
[2020/11/22 12:20] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): my fault I only wrote the minutes today
[2020/11/22 12:20] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): rl took over :)
[2020/11/22 12:20] Sudane Erato: Notices often eat up their contents... for me anyway :(
[2020/11/22 12:20] Almut Brunswick: https://forums.slcds.info/viewtopic.php ... ca03b50570
[2020/11/22 12:20] Almut Brunswick: here is the Forum link
[2020/11/22 12:21] Almut Brunswick: Do our new citizens already know our Forum?
[2020/11/22 12:21] Jeremy (jeremy.querilo): ohh sorry I did not have the time to apply there.
[2020/11/22 12:21] Sudane Erato: I move we accept minutes
[2020/11/22 12:22] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): second
[2020/11/22 12:22] Almut Brunswick: Thank you. You get my Aye for it
[2020/11/22 12:22] Sudane Erato: aye
[2020/11/22 12:22] Callipygian Christensen: no need to be sorry Jeremy - joining the Forums is optional :)
[2020/11/22 12:22] Sudane Erato: but encouraged :)
[2020/11/22 12:23] Almut Brunswick: Yes, a lot of discussions and announcements are going through the forum
[2020/11/22 12:23] Jeremy (jeremy.querilo): I asked for a notecard but did'nt im yet.
[2020/11/22 12:23] Almut Brunswick: Ok, the minutes are accepted.
[2020/11/22 12:23] Delia Lake: the forum is where people discuss issues and propose events, and generally coordinate what goes on in the community
[2020/11/22 12:23] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): Almut one observation of the agenda
[2020/11/22 12:23] Almut Brunswick: RIght!
[2020/11/22 12:23] Almut Brunswick: Ok, what did you observe?
[2020/11/22 12:24] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): missing the 5 A, signage of LA
[2020/11/22 12:24] Almut Brunswick: I thought it was closed last meeting
[2020/11/22 12:24] Sudane Erato: oh right!
[2020/11/22 12:24] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): it’s in the minutes
[2020/11/22 12:24] Almut Brunswick: yes
[2020/11/22 12:24] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): closed? it was a new point
[2020/11/22 12:24] Almut Brunswick: when it is still Old Business, we should add it
[2020/11/22 12:24] Sudane Erato: its still ongoing
[2020/11/22 12:24] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): you asked me to add it
[2020/11/22 12:25] Almut Brunswick: ok, then 4. C Signage
[2020/11/22 12:25] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): and yes still ongoing LA, CN, CS, review NFS
[2020/11/22 12:25] Almut Brunswick: Can you report about the ongoing work?
[2020/11/22 12:26] Almut Brunswick: Mizou?
[2020/11/22 12:26] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): Hmmm i can report on the meeting with Rosie, she provided me with the spots where to place the signs, so it all in the pipework, I haven't had the time to do anything as RL has been very busy (back in work)
[2020/11/22 12:27] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): done
[2020/11/22 12:27] Almut Brunswick: Ah ok, so we put it on the Agenda for our successors :D
[2020/11/22 12:27] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): :)
[2020/11/22 12:27] Almut Brunswick: (because today is our last LUC meeting this term^^)
[2020/11/22 12:27] Almut Brunswick: Thank you
[2020/11/22 12:27] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): well hopefully i will be part of LUC next term
[2020/11/22 12:28] Almut Brunswick: I run for the Representative Assembly, so it is not yet sure if I will become the RA representative or Rosie
[2020/11/22 12:28] Almut Brunswick: I would love to continue here, but Rosie has so to say the older rights :D
[2020/11/22 12:29] Almut Brunswick: So it is yet open
[2020/11/22 12:29] Sudane Erato: we'll wait and see :)
[2020/11/22 12:29] Almut Brunswick: Right
[2020/11/22 12:29] Almut Brunswick: So back to the agenda
[2020/11/22 12:29] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): ok
[2020/11/22 12:29] Almut Brunswick: 4. A: I can make it short - we are sitting on it^^
[2020/11/22 12:29] Sudane Erato: hehe
[2020/11/22 12:29] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): lol
[2020/11/22 12:30] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): Let us guess almut
[2020/11/22 12:30] Almut Brunswick: The two missing walkways and an extra step for older people to access to the bowed bridge are in place
[2020/11/22 12:30] Sudane Erato: yes!!
[2020/11/22 12:30] Sudane Erato: that was essential for me :)
[2020/11/22 12:30] Almut Brunswick: Rosie objected that the straight way was too wide for her taste, so you need to balance now a bit
[2020/11/22 12:30] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): ah sudane,
[2020/11/22 12:31] Almut Brunswick: I could also build a wheelchair ramp, no problem :D
[2020/11/22 12:31] Sudane Erato: hmmm... that might be next :)
[2020/11/22 12:31] Almut Brunswick: we are an inclusive society :D
[2020/11/22 12:31] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): getting there
[2020/11/22 12:31] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): /me creaks
[2020/11/22 12:32] Almut Brunswick: So the next part is the fine tuning of the plants and nature by Delia
[2020/11/22 12:32] Almut Brunswick: hehe Kyoko
[2020/11/22 12:32] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): Almut?
[2020/11/22 12:32] Almut Brunswick: yes?
[2020/11/22 12:32] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): What about adding mould and such on the stone where it touches the water to make it look even more realistic?
[2020/11/22 12:32] Jeremy (jeremy.querilo): Is the missing passway near my house? I can only see paths to neighbours not to the road
[2020/11/22 12:33] Delia Lake: where is your house, Jeremy?
[2020/11/22 12:33] Almut Brunswick: no, th emissing pathway was this way here
[2020/11/22 12:33] Almut Brunswick: from the main road to the remote plot behind me at the liake
[2020/11/22 12:33] Almut Brunswick: lake
[2020/11/22 12:33] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): or at least the one we're talking about now Jeremyis in AM
[2020/11/22 12:34] Delia Lake: if we do still have places where pathways are missing we want to check them and fix them if necessary
[2020/11/22 12:34] Jeremy (jeremy.querilo): ah ak.
[2020/11/22 12:34] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): new business?
[2020/11/22 12:34] Almut Brunswick: Mizou, I'm just wondering why my reworked texture with the water benchmark is not applied right now
[2020/11/22 12:35] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): ah not visible?
[2020/11/22 12:35] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): to me it looks very plain
[2020/11/22 12:35] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): It does need to look older
[2020/11/22 12:35] Almut Brunswick: ah I know what happened - my fault! I detected some flaws in aligning bricks and I fixed it in the original texture
[2020/11/22 12:36] Almut Brunswick: now I need to reapply the weathering again
[2020/11/22 12:36] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): the walls look like they have just been build, adding some mould can be done with brushes in Photoshop or other image editing
[2020/11/22 12:36] Almut Brunswick: it is on a layer in PS
[2020/11/22 12:36] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): yes
[2020/11/22 12:36] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): the mouldier the better Almut :)
[2020/11/22 12:36] Almut Brunswick: I will correct it straight after the meeting
[2020/11/22 12:36] Sudane Erato: hehe.... like us :)
[2020/11/22 12:36] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): no rush :)
[2020/11/22 12:36] Almut Brunswick: because I already made them
[2020/11/22 12:36] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): ah ok
[2020/11/22 12:37] Almut Brunswick: naaah, not everything needs to look like in Mezzogiornon, but this is here a certain chronic cultural clash
[2020/11/22 12:37] Almut Brunswick: :D
[2020/11/22 12:37] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): sorry almut?
[2020/11/22 12:38] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): explain please
[2020/11/22 12:38] Sudane Erato: where is Mezzogiornon? :)
[2020/11/22 12:38] Sudane Erato: I might like to visit :)
[2020/11/22 12:38] Almut Brunswick: MIzou, I just wanted to express that I personally don't need everything completely worn out and dull. A bit yes, it should look a bit used.
[2020/11/22 12:38] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): and which clash are you referring to?
[2020/11/22 12:38] Almut Brunswick: Mezzogiorno is a very poor region in Italy
[2020/11/22 12:39] Sudane Erato: ahhh
[2020/11/22 12:39] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): sure
[2020/11/22 12:39] Almut Brunswick: Many people here like the romantic Tuscany
[2020/11/22 12:39] Almut Brunswick: so I'm making a bit my jokes about it when it is too extreme in respect on aging etc.
[2020/11/22 12:40] Almut Brunswick: sorry for my nasty mouth:D
[2020/11/22 12:40] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): some aging is normal in RL
[2020/11/22 12:40] Almut Brunswick: some yes, it depends on the degree
[2020/11/22 12:40] Sudane Erato: the more aging the better to my mind :)
[2020/11/22 12:40] Jeremy (jeremy.querilo): soap @ nasty mouth
[2020/11/22 12:40] Sudane Erato: hehe
[2020/11/22 12:41] Almut Brunswick: When it looks like badly maintained, no
[2020/11/22 12:41] Almut Brunswick: But well, I'm German. We are like that. :D
[2020/11/22 12:41] Jeremy (jeremy.querilo): /me is Dutch.
[2020/11/22 12:41] Almut Brunswick: (we have our dirty spots, too, believe me)
[2020/11/22 12:41] Sudane Erato: I'm half German! :)
[2020/11/22 12:41] Almut Brunswick: Prettig met jij kennis te maken
[2020/11/22 12:42] Delia Lake: aging fits with the rest of the buildings and mood of this region I think. an old structure
[2020/11/22 12:42] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): i agree Delia
[2020/11/22 12:42] Almut Brunswick: Maar ze laten mij hier niet huizen in De Stijl bouwen :(
[2020/11/22 12:42] Almut Brunswick: Yes, I have understood that and it is the theme of this sim.
[2020/11/22 12:43] Almut Brunswick: (It does not mean that I do like it, but it is the current state^^)
[2020/11/22 12:44] Almut Brunswick: Ok, before we are getting deeper in more details of personal taste and common sense, let's move to 4. B: The new quarter which has been raised by Sudane
[2020/11/22 12:44] Sudane Erato: Oh
[2020/11/22 12:44] Jeremy (jeremy.querilo): Ik ben nieuw en houd wijs mijn mond :-)
[2020/11/22 12:44] Sudane Erato: I don't have anything to report there... my work was finished
[2020/11/22 12:44] Almut Brunswick: Just a status update:D
[2020/11/22 12:44] Almut Brunswick: What about new citizens, activities?
[2020/11/22 12:45] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): and we have some nice businesses open there
[2020/11/22 12:45] Sudane Erato: its now open for gradual replacement of builds as work time is available
[2020/11/22 12:45] Jeremy (jeremy.querilo): watch and learn and adapt?
[2020/11/22 12:45] Almut Brunswick: So to say
[2020/11/22 12:45] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): (don't start with me--I like my builds there)
[2020/11/22 12:45] Jeremy (jeremy.querilo): btw I like the sim station here.
[2020/11/22 12:45] Sudane Erato: hehe
[2020/11/22 12:45] Almut Brunswick: Jeremy, the new quarter has smaller parcels now to attract new citizens
[2020/11/22 12:46] Sudane Erato: I'm actually working on another NFS density build
[2020/11/22 12:46] Almut Brunswick: Oh, is that a new business already?
[2020/11/22 12:46] Sudane Erato: no... not a new business
[2020/11/22 12:46] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): i am lost where are we on the agenda?
[2020/11/22 12:46] Sudane Erato: its just what I'm working on now
[2020/11/22 12:47] Almut Brunswick: Jeremy, which sim station? Did I miss that we have a railroad station?
[2020/11/22 12:47] Sudane Erato: I have nothing to report on the new section in LA
[2020/11/22 12:47] Jeremy (jeremy.querilo): I love my tiny spot up here https://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/ ... /17/63/154
[2020/11/22 12:47] Almut Brunswick: We are at 4 B. but Sudane stated she is working on something new at NFS
[2020/11/22 12:47] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): thanks
[2020/11/22 12:47] Sudane Erato: I think the topic can be closed, if you wish
[2020/11/22 12:47] Jeremy (jeremy.querilo): I mean the music what is playing here
[2020/11/22 12:47] Almut Brunswick: So I asked her if she would like to report about it in New Business
[2020/11/22 12:48] Almut Brunswick: ok good
[2020/11/22 12:48] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): Radio Riel?
[2020/11/22 12:48] Almut Brunswick: Would you like to reveal us a bit about your NFS density build plans?
[2020/11/22 12:48] Almut Brunswick: (Mizou, that is for 5. A then)
[2020/11/22 12:49] Sudane Erato: oh... sure
[2020/11/22 12:49] Jeremy (jeremy.querilo): reverie.radioriel
[2020/11/22 12:49] Sudane Erato: I take on a new build in the NFS ongoing denisty project when a parcel becomes available that i find interesting
[2020/11/22 12:49] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): K Almut
[2020/11/22 12:49] Sudane Erato: so
[2020/11/22 12:49] Sudane Erato: one did... 1600 Catfahrt
[2020/11/22 12:50] Sudane Erato: so I'm building a replace build for that parcel
[2020/11/22 12:50] Sudane Erato: that's it
[2020/11/22 12:50] Almut Brunswick: Will it be a Fachwerk house?
[2020/11/22 12:50] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): /me excuse my avatar is typing but i am saying nothing :)
[2020/11/22 12:50] Sudane Erato: you know... i'm not totally sure I understand what a fachwerk house is
[2020/11/22 12:50] Almut Brunswick: half-timber house
[2020/11/22 12:50] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): Sudane, lol
[2020/11/22 12:51] Almut Brunswick: wooden framework
[2020/11/22 12:51] Sudane Erato: so i just build in a style that I feel works
[2020/11/22 12:51] Jeremy (jeremy.querilo): I dont see you type
[2020/11/22 12:51] Sudane Erato: oh... this one is stone
[2020/11/22 12:51] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): you build beautiful houses and monasteries !
[2020/11/22 12:51] Sudane Erato: but it could be timbered i guess... just depends on finding good textures
[2020/11/22 12:52] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): i can give you some with the 3 materials
[2020/11/22 12:52] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): wood if you want
[2020/11/22 12:52] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): my own made
[2020/11/22 12:52] Sudane Erato: always happy to get nice textures :)
[2020/11/22 12:52] Delia Lake: I like having a mix of old styles in NFS. it makes it look like the town grew there organically bit by bit
[2020/11/22 12:52] Sudane Erato: Delia, I agree
[2020/11/22 12:52] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): ok will get them after this meeting
[2020/11/22 12:52] Sudane Erato: thx :)
[2020/11/22 12:52] Almut Brunswick: Yes, complete Fachwerk cities are rare
[2020/11/22 12:53] Almut Brunswick: perfect
[2020/11/22 12:53] Sudane Erato: anyone is welcome anytime to visit my shop and see progress :)
[2020/11/22 12:53] Almut Brunswick: My next building here will be a Fachwerk appendix to the Monastery which shall house a beer garden and café
[2020/11/22 12:53] Sudane Erato: great! :)
[2020/11/22 12:53] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): more beer!
[2020/11/22 12:53] Sudane Erato: hehe
[2020/11/22 12:54] Almut Brunswick: so something from my RL surrounding, so to say
[2020/11/22 12:54] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): And i wish we had an Irish pub again lol
[2020/11/22 12:54] Almut Brunswick: what about a brewery?
[2020/11/22 12:54] Sudane Erato: in RL :)
[2020/11/22 12:54] Almut Brunswick: here in CDS
[2020/11/22 12:54] Almut Brunswick: Prim Pilsje
[2020/11/22 12:54] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): we did have CDS beer, didn’t we Sudane in the long bygone days
[2020/11/22 12:54] Jeremy (jeremy.querilo): I saw a bar with the sign "Biertje"
[2020/11/22 12:55] Sudane Erato: oh!
[2020/11/22 12:55] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): dat is van Nafje
[2020/11/22 12:55] Almut Brunswick: "Did" makes not drunken anymore
[2020/11/22 12:55] Sudane Erato: at the Biergarten... yes!
[2020/11/22 12:55] Delia Lake: doesn't Lil have an Irish pub in NFS/ or are you thinking of the old Dolphin on Cosy?
[2020/11/22 12:55] Jeremy (jeremy.querilo): Biertje means small beer in Dutch
[2020/11/22 12:55] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): yes Delia the Dancing Dolphin
[2020/11/22 12:55] Sudane Erato: omg... the old Dolphin :)
[2020/11/22 12:55] Sudane Erato: hehe
[2020/11/22 12:55] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): i so wish i could rebuild that
[2020/11/22 12:55] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): Lil has an irish pub
[2020/11/22 12:56] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): where?
[2020/11/22 12:56] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): and there is still the old Gasthaus\
[2020/11/22 12:56] Sudane Erato: on the platz
[2020/11/22 12:56] Sudane Erato: yes... both :)
[2020/11/22 12:56] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): oh. i have never seen it
[2020/11/22 12:56] Jeremy (jeremy.querilo): gasthouse is a nice one
[2020/11/22 12:56] Almut Brunswick: Wouldn't that be a great use for this abandoned plot there? A brewery?
[2020/11/22 12:56] Almut Brunswick: with a beer garden?
[2020/11/22 12:56] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): which plot?
[2020/11/22 12:56] Almut Brunswick: we already have the tree here :D
[2020/11/22 12:56] Sudane Erato: behind this wall?
[2020/11/22 12:56] Almut Brunswick: the plot over there for which I built this walkway
[2020/11/22 12:56] Delia Lake: the Gasthaus is nice
[2020/11/22 12:57] Sudane Erato: that plot is open
[2020/11/22 12:57] Delia Lake: I go there sometimes
[2020/11/22 12:57] Almut Brunswick: where this chapel stands right now
[2020/11/22 12:57] Almut Brunswick: I know, Sudane
[2020/11/22 12:57] Sudane Erato: Kyoko owns that
[2020/11/22 12:57] Almut Brunswick: ah ok
[2020/11/22 12:57] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): yes thought so
[2020/11/22 12:57] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): I haven't finished the decor
[2020/11/22 12:57] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): chapel or brewery :)
[2020/11/22 12:57] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): It was there for a long time earlier
[2020/11/22 12:57] Sudane Erato: but behind the wall... that could use an owner :)
[2020/11/22 12:58] Almut Brunswick: but it is not suitable to serve as a brewery
[2020/11/22 12:58] Almut Brunswick: the plot size is great though
[2020/11/22 12:59] Sudane Erato: well, the build is just staging
[2020/11/22 12:59] Sudane Erato: it can be changed
[2020/11/22 12:59] Almut Brunswick: a kettle house with copper kettles and armatures... :D
[2020/11/22 12:59] Almut Brunswick: in yellow bricks like the Old Sluice :D
[2020/11/22 13:00] Sudane Erato: hehe
[2020/11/22 13:00] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): /me Almut is dreaming aloud :)
[2020/11/22 13:00] Almut Brunswick: Ok, I better stop dreaming. Back to the agenda
[2020/11/22 13:00] Sudane Erato: Your next project Almut :)
[2020/11/22 13:00] Almut Brunswick: after the Monastery appendix
[2020/11/22 13:00] Almut Brunswick: ok I see one last point under Miscellaneous
[2020/11/22 13:01] Almut Brunswick: I don't know how intense you have followed the discussion about the new LUC Act in the Forum
[2020/11/22 13:01] Sudane Erato: lol
[2020/11/22 13:01] Sudane Erato: vastly complicated :)
[2020/11/22 13:01] Almut Brunswick: after months of silence, it boiled up again
[2020/11/22 13:02] Almut Brunswick: and two German bureaucrats have discussed it in detail
[2020/11/22 13:02] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): i have trouble following Tan and yourself in the debate
[2020/11/22 13:02] Almut Brunswick: (Tan and I)
[2020/11/22 13:02] Callipygian Christensen: /me waves her hand
[2020/11/22 13:02] Almut Brunswick: This is not important as long as the act will be understandable
[2020/11/22 13:02] Almut Brunswick: :D
[2020/11/22 13:02] Almut Brunswick: Calli, please
[2020/11/22 13:02] Sudane Erato: I will just await the outcome and happily comply with the results :)
[2020/11/22 13:02] Callipygian Christensen: thankyou
[2020/11/22 13:03] Callipygian Christensen: I did follow the debate (mostly)..and just want to offer an observation, because, much like Sudane, my role on the SC is to uphold what you all decide if it fits with the Consitution blahb blah and so on...
[2020/11/22 13:04] Sudane Erato: :)
[2020/11/22 13:04] Callipygian Christensen: so what I do ask you to consider, then ensure, is what led to the exisiting law being put into place...
[2020/11/22 13:04] Callipygian Christensen: and that any new version takes that into account.
[2020/11/22 13:05] Almut Brunswick: Well, Rosie has already proposed to replace the current LUC law by the new one instead of treating it as just a revision
[2020/11/22 13:05] Callipygian Christensen: Not having the LUC as a part of actual gov't was intentional...
[2020/11/22 13:05] Almut Brunswick: and I do agree with it
[2020/11/22 13:05] Almut Brunswick: Yes, but this is not that easy
[2020/11/22 13:06] Almut Brunswick: this was what I mainly objected and what led us to the compromise to see the LUC as a public institution in the CDS, but not as a simple non-governmental organisation
[2020/11/22 13:07] Callipygian Christensen: The LUC, imo, was meant to do twofold service - to lighten the load of the Chancellor and to also be a check and balance to the Chancellor - perhaps Delia and Lilith ca give thier thought on that too
[2020/11/22 13:08] Almut Brunswick: Honestly, I would prefer to see the LUC as a sort of municipal authority, but this does not fit in the constitutional structure right now.
[2020/11/22 13:08] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): no it doesn't and we all have a voice on that
[2020/11/22 13:08] Almut Brunswick: because a NGO has actually no law which defines its tasks and how the members will be elected
[2020/11/22 13:09] Almut Brunswick: but the LUC has and that with a good cause
[2020/11/22 13:10] Delia Lake: yes. The Chancellor cannot and should not have to do everything alone. So the LUC was established as a commission reporting to the RA and having a purpose of advising the Chancellor about buildings, the environment and basic public infrastructure. the LUC has no authority of its own
[2020/11/22 13:10] Almut Brunswick: but then it is a body between the official threefold powers legislative-executive-jurisdiction and the citizenship
[2020/11/22 13:11] Almut Brunswick: That is true. The LUC is under the supervision and authority of the RA and is a sort of service organ for both the RA and the Chancellor
[2020/11/22 13:11] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (samara.barzane): not really
[2020/11/22 13:11] Sudane Erato: May I propose that this discussion is really not the business of the LUC.... but rather of the RA to define what we do... and therefore really outside our agenda
[2020/11/22 13:12] Almut Brunswick: I was about to say: That's beyond our meeting
[2020/11/22 13:12] Sudane Erato: So perhaps we could adjourn, and you guys carry this on after the meeting?
[2020/11/22 13:12] Almut Brunswick: So I propose to move for adjourn
[2020/11/22 13:12] Almut Brunswick: Yes
[2020/11/22 13:12] Sudane Erato: second
[2020/11/22 13:12] Almut Brunswick: Aye
[2020/11/22 13:12] Sudane Erato: aye
[2020/11/22 13:12] Callipygian Christensen: Sudane, laws and changes to laws are very much the field of all citizens..so the memers of the LUC are very much entitled to dicuss how it might evolve.
[2020/11/22 13:12] Almut Brunswick: The next meeting is just a proposal and actually out of our influence :D
[2020/11/22 13:12] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): aye
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Gruuthuuse-handschrift -circa 1400
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