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LUC 3: Transcript

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[2014/12/15 09:55] Rosie Gray: hi Timo, anti, Shep, Leslie
[2014/12/15 09:55] Timo Gufler: Hi Rosie!
[2014/12/15 09:55] Rosie Gray: ㋡
[2014/12/15 09:55] anti Wirefly: Howdy Rosie
[2014/12/15 09:55] Swan Chair: Welcome! To change the seating animation click on the chair for the menu
[2014/12/15 09:56] Leslie Allandale: Yay, Rosie.
[2014/12/15 09:56] Leslie Allandale: Where is the peanut gallery?
[2014/12/15 09:56] Rosie Gray: yikes it has been a busy week!
[2014/12/15 09:56] anti Wirefly: indeed it has
[2014/12/15 09:56] Parliamentary Procedures & Simplified Roberts Rules: anti Wirefly has touched me and recieved my contents.
[2014/12/15 09:56] Shep (shep.titian): Do you think Rosie could possiblky help .. she will attest to my not knowing correct proceedures
[2014/12/15 09:57] Leslie Allandale: Did we figure how to get our meetings into the CDS calendar?
[2014/12/15 09:57] anti Wirefly: she has been heling me
[2014/12/15 09:57] Rosie Gray: lol, Shep
[2014/12/15 09:57] Leslie Allandale: Maybe you could get your heads together.
[2014/12/15 09:57] Rosie Gray: what is the question?
[2014/12/15 09:57] Rosie Gray: sorry I don't know what you are talking about
[2014/12/15 09:57] Shep (shep.titian): Yessir boss
[2014/12/15 09:57] anti Wirefly: I am still not secretary trained
[2014/12/15 09:57] Shep (shep.titian): minutes Rosie
[2014/12/15 09:57] Leslie Allandale: anti need the way trained
[2014/12/15 09:57] Rosie Gray: aah
[2014/12/15 09:57] Leslie Allandale: paved
[2014/12/15 09:58] Leslie Allandale: soz
[2014/12/15 09:58] Leslie Allandale: pancake batter.
[2014/12/15 09:58] Shep (shep.titian): He thought I was trained
[2014/12/15 09:58] Shep (shep.titian): YOu are welcome to train me
[2014/12/15 09:58] Rosie Gray: train you?
[2014/12/15 09:58] Shep (shep.titian): for emergencies
[2014/12/15 09:59] anti Wirefly: I don't know where to stick my minutes
[2014/12/15 09:59] Shep (shep.titian): hehehehehe
[2014/12/15 09:59] /me will have to look up CPR training from 3 decades ago
[2014/12/15 09:59] Leslie Allandale: You should have access to the LUC forum thread
[2014/12/15 09:59] Leslie Allandale: Post them with our announcements.
[2014/12/15 09:59] Rosie Gray: oh you put the Minutes on the forum, anti
[2014/12/15 09:59] anti Wirefly: ok
[2014/12/15 10:00] Rosie Gray: maybe share them through google docs first so that if anything needs to be adjusted it can be done before you post them
[2014/12/15 10:00] Shep (shep.titian): Sorry anti I promise I'm not laughing at you ... my mind seems to be in a finding things funny mood today
[2014/12/15 10:00] anti Wirefly: I looked, didn't see a good sot, so I aniked
[2014/12/15 10:00] anti Wirefly: laugh away, She
[2014/12/15 10:01] Shep (shep.titian): Grins
[2014/12/15 10:01] Rosie Gray: hey Josie!
[2014/12/15 10:02] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): Hello!
[2014/12/15 10:02] Timo Gufler: Hi Josie!
[2014/12/15 10:02] anti Wirefly: Howdy Josie
[2014/12/15 10:02] Shep (shep.titian): Hello Josie
[2014/12/15 10:02] Leslie Allandale: Shall we start? Remember we are saving a transcript to post.
[2014/12/15 10:03] Rosie Gray: I guess we are a boring commission since we have no audience
[2014/12/15 10:03] Leslie Allandale: I suggest we table minutes
[2014/12/15 10:03] Shep (shep.titian): second
[2014/12/15 10:03] Rosie Gray: that should be put as a motion
[2014/12/15 10:03] Leslie Allandale: yes
[2014/12/15 10:04] Leslie Allandale: chair can't move of vote, actually
[2014/12/15 10:04] Leslie Allandale: do I hear a motion?
[2014/12/15 10:04] Rosie Gray: I move that we table the minutes until our next meeting.
[2014/12/15 10:04] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): Second
[2014/12/15 10:04] Shep (shep.titian): second
[2014/12/15 10:04] Leslie Allandale: all in favor?
[2014/12/15 10:04] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): Aye
[2014/12/15 10:04] Timo Gufler: aye
[2014/12/15 10:04] Shep (shep.titian): aye
[2014/12/15 10:04] Second Life: Object owned by secondlife:///app/agent/60b888be-68f2-4 ... d974/about gave you 'Law Review-Omnibus New Region Expansion Act' ( http://slurl.com/secondlife/Colonia%20Nova/8/148/23 ).
[2014/12/15 10:04] Leslie Allandale: carries
[2014/12/15 10:04] Second Life: You decline 'LUC terms' ( http://slurl.com/secondlife/Colonia%20Nova/8/148/23 ) from Object.
[2014/12/15 10:05] Second Life: Object owned by secondlife:///app/agent/60b888be-68f2-4 ... d974/about gave you 'Agenda for LUC 2' ( http://slurl.com/secondlife/Colonia%20Nova/8/148/23 ).
[2014/12/15 10:05] Leslie Allandale: Rosie, you have to leave early, so your chair comes up first.
[2014/12/15 10:05] Leslie Allandale: passes gavel
[2014/12/15 10:05] Rosie Gray: I am looking for the Agenda
[2014/12/15 10:05] anti Wirefly: Something came u with me too
[2014/12/15 10:05] Rosie Gray: do we have an Agenda somewhere?
[2014/12/15 10:06] Leslie Allandale: Could we set a next meeting time, since you two have to leave early?
[2014/12/15 10:06] Rosie Gray: oh sure
[2014/12/15 10:06] Leslie Allandale: It is portal, luc
[2014/12/15 10:06] Leslie Allandale: let me find link
[2014/12/15 10:06] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): http://forums.slcds.info/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=6217
[2014/12/15 10:06] anti Wirefly: I almost have a nc
[2014/12/15 10:06] Rosie Gray: thanks Josie... that is the forum, not the portal
[2014/12/15 10:07] Leslie Allandale: of course
[2014/12/15 10:07] Leslie Allandale: silly pancake fingers
[2014/12/15 10:07] Rosie Gray: lol, it's an easy mixup until you get used to it ;)
[2014/12/15 10:08] Leslie Allandale: So you are up first, Rosie.
[2014/12/15 10:08] Parliamentary Procedures & Simplified Roberts Rules: Shep Titian has touched me and recieved my contents.
[2014/12/15 10:08] Rosie Gray: okay
[2014/12/15 10:09] Rosie Gray: let me find my doc
[2014/12/15 10:09] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): Is the agenda on the link I provided incorrect?
[2014/12/15 10:09] Leslie Allandale: No
[2014/12/15 10:09] Leslie Allandale: we tabled a
[2014/12/15 10:10] Leslie Allandale: we are in b
[2014/12/15 10:10] Rosie Gray: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nAc ... sp=sharing
[2014/12/15 10:10] Rosie Gray: you have all had access to this document for commenting and suggesting
[2014/12/15 10:10] Leslie Allandale: b-1 is inspection committee
[2014/12/15 10:10] Second Life: Audio from the domain 64.237.49.76 will always be played.
[2014/12/15 10:11] Rosie Gray: so, are there any suggestions now regarding it?
[2014/12/15 10:11] Shep (shep.titian): I can only find the agenda for LUC2
[2014/12/15 10:12] Leslie Allandale: My question is, Rosie: is this to be internal procedures, or shall we submit this to RA for approval
[2014/12/15 10:12] anti Wirefly: anybody want an agenda nc?
[2014/12/15 10:12] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): Me please
[2014/12/15 10:12] Rosie Gray: I think that we should submit it to the RA for approval
[2014/12/15 10:13] Timo Gufler: should it be shown for the public too?
[2014/12/15 10:13] Rosie Gray: and perhaps we should submit it to the Chancellor for comment
[2014/12/15 10:13] Leslie Allandale: Yes
[2014/12/15 10:13] Leslie Allandale: Is there a motion to submit this to the chancellor and RA for comments?
[2014/12/15 10:13] Rosie Gray: it might be a good idea to submit it to the Chancellor first
[2014/12/15 10:14] Shep (shep.titian): Thank you anti
[2014/12/15 10:14] /me waves at Pip and smiles
[2014/12/15 10:14] anti Wirefly: I move we submit it to the Chancellor for comment
[2014/12/15 10:14] /me waves back at everyone present
[2014/12/15 10:14] Leslie Allandale: second
[2014/12/15 10:14] Second Life: Now playing: Brad Hatfield - Bossa Monterey
[2014/12/15 10:15] Shep (shep.titian): Hi Pip
[2014/12/15 10:15] Second Life: Now playing: Jack Harris - Potato Flower
[2014/12/15 10:15] anti Wirefly: hi
[2014/12/15 10:15] Second Life: Now playing: Jack Harris - Potato Flower
[2014/12/15 10:15] Leslie Allandale: does anyone need an agenda?
[2014/12/15 10:16] Timo Gufler: I guess we all have it
[2014/12/15 10:16] Second Life: Now playing: Targetspot - TargetSpot
[2014/12/15 10:16] Rosie Gray: call the question?
[2014/12/15 10:16] Leslie Allandale: aye
[2014/12/15 10:16] Rosie Gray: aye
[2014/12/15 10:16] Timo Gufler: aye
[2014/12/15 10:16] anti Wirefly: aye
[2014/12/15 10:16] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): Nay
[2014/12/15 10:16] Rosie Gray: oh, what's your thinking Josie?
[2014/12/15 10:17] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): I feel it's an internal procedure for the LUC.
[2014/12/15 10:17] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): That's just my opinion. I have no need to debate it.
[2014/12/15 10:17] /me nods
[2014/12/15 10:17] Shep (shep.titian): oop aye
[2014/12/15 10:18] Second Life: Now playing: Bosque Brown - So Loud
[2014/12/15 10:18] Rosie Gray: okay, then perhaps we need a motion to present it to the RA after the Chancellor has seen it.
[2014/12/15 10:19] Rosie Gray: I just feel it is a courtesy to the Chancellor's office, but the RA needs to approve it.
[2014/12/15 10:19] Leslie Allandale: I agree, and so move.
[2014/12/15 10:19] anti Wirefly: second
[2014/12/15 10:19] Rosie Gray: any debate?
[2014/12/15 10:19] Leslie Allandale: no
[2014/12/15 10:20] Rosie Gray: okay, then I call the question
[2014/12/15 10:20] Leslie Allandale: call the question
[2014/12/15 10:20] anti Wirefly: aye
[2014/12/15 10:20] Leslie Allandale: aye
[2014/12/15 10:20] Shep (shep.titian): I don't know if Pat realises the authority he gave me ... but he has said I'm it for the exec here
[2014/12/15 10:20] Timo Gufler: aye
[2014/12/15 10:20] Rosie Gray: aye
[2014/12/15 10:20] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): Abstain
[2014/12/15 10:20] Rosie Gray: okay, good to know Shep ㋡
[2014/12/15 10:20] Rosie Gray: still, it's a courtesy to him
[2014/12/15 10:21] Shep (shep.titian): I'll still say aye
[2014/12/15 10:21] Rosie Gray: this one is to the RA, in any case
[2014/12/15 10:21] Shep (shep.titian): Yes
[2014/12/15 10:21] Rosie Gray: okay, motion passes
[2014/12/15 10:21] Rosie Gray: thank you!
[2014/12/15 10:22] Rosie Gray: and next up is the GMP
[2014/12/15 10:22] Rosie Gray: sorry I was quite late getting this one drafted up and didn't have a chance to share it before
[2014/12/15 10:22] Rosie Gray: anyway, you all have it now, but here is the link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D9B ... sp=sharing
[2014/12/15 10:22] Second Life: Now playing: The Paul McKenna Band - Flying Through Flanders
[2014/12/15 10:23] Rosie Gray: any thoughts about it?
[2014/12/15 10:23] Leslie Allandale: May I make a suggestion while we look at it?
[2014/12/15 10:23] Rosie Gray: yes of course
[2014/12/15 10:24] Leslie Allandale: There are two LUC threads on the forum. We might post to the second one for items to be discussed.
[2014/12/15 10:24] Rosie Gray: please note this is basically calling for a workshop by all of us to brainstorm
[2014/12/15 10:24] Leslie Allandale: that way it will be a one-stop-shop.
[2014/12/15 10:24] Rosie Gray: I prefer personally to keep documents private to just this group until we have them refined
[2014/12/15 10:25] Leslie Allandale: your call
[2014/12/15 10:25] Timo Gufler: less debate that way for sure
[2014/12/15 10:25] Rosie Gray: and ready for viewing by the citizens, and comments from them
[2014/12/15 10:25] Rosie Gray: well, too many cooks spoil the broth ;)
[2014/12/15 10:25] Leslie Allandale: In this case, do you have a proposal for implementing the sessions?
[2014/12/15 10:25] /me smiles and nods
[2014/12/15 10:26] Rosie Gray: I think we need to set aside some time to brainstorm, as I've said in item 4
[2014/12/15 10:26] Second Life: Now playing: Adam Holmes - Oh My God
[2014/12/15 10:26] Rosie Gray: and proceed from there
[2014/12/15 10:26] Leslie Allandale: Shall we set a time for that?
[2014/12/15 10:26] Shep (shep.titian): sorry phone
[2014/12/15 10:26] Timo Gufler: should that brainstorming be outside of LUC meetings?
[2014/12/15 10:26] Leslie Allandale: why not
[2014/12/15 10:27] Leslie Allandale: we can meet at daily grind
[2014/12/15 10:27] Rosie Gray: yes I think it should be
[2014/12/15 10:27] Leslie Allandale: then we don't have to record it.
[2014/12/15 10:27] Rosie Gray: so that we aren't formal in how it proceeds
[2014/12/15 10:27] Leslie Allandale: at least for a start]
[2014/12/15 10:27] Leslie Allandale: we can formalize it at our meeting
[2014/12/15 10:27] Rosie Gray: yes, I mean just the brainstorming meeting
[2014/12/15 10:28] Leslie Allandale: do you want to doodle it?
[2014/12/15 10:28] Rosie Gray: sure I can do that
[2014/12/15 10:28] Rosie Gray: does this time of day work for everyone?
[2014/12/15 10:28] Timo Gufler: it would be good to ensure that all volunteers can participate to it
[2014/12/15 10:28] Leslie Allandale: It works for me
[2014/12/15 10:28] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): Usually. I'll mention if I have a conflict, but that should be rare.
[2014/12/15 10:28] Rosie Gray: what are you thinking, Timo?
[2014/12/15 10:29] anti Wirefly: I don't know how much time I can dedicate, esecially in the middle of the day
[2014/12/15 10:29] Timo Gufler: depends on the weekday
[2014/12/15 10:29] Timo Gufler: day of the week
[2014/12/15 10:29] /me nods
[2014/12/15 10:29] Rosie Gray: okay well I will Doodle for the brainstorming
[2014/12/15 10:29] Rosie Gray: but, back to this document
[2014/12/15 10:29] Leslie Allandale: greata?
[2014/12/15 10:29] Leslie Allandale: great
[2014/12/15 10:29] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): I have a question for Timo
[2014/12/15 10:29] Timo Gufler: sure
[2014/12/15 10:30] Rosie Gray: does it look like the right procedure?
[2014/12/15 10:30] Second Life: Now playing: Dodson & Fogg - All Day Long
[2014/12/15 10:30] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): When you say "the volunteers", who is that?
[2014/12/15 10:30] Leslie Allandale: It is clear and easy to follow
[2014/12/15 10:30] Timo Gufler: well, I meant the LUC members, who are interested in the GMP
[2014/12/15 10:30] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): ok ty!
[2014/12/15 10:31] Rosie Gray: ah, okay ㋡ I wondered what you meant too
[2014/12/15 10:31] Leslie Allandale: As long as everything is included.
[2014/12/15 10:31] Timo Gufler: sorry for being unclear
[2014/12/15 10:31] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): no worries :-)
[2014/12/15 10:32] Rosie Gray: so do we have a motion to adopt the procedures in the Procedures to Update and Revise the CDS General Master Plan as our procedure?
[2014/12/15 10:32] Leslie Allandale: I move
[2014/12/15 10:32] Timo Gufler: second
[2014/12/15 10:32] /me notices that is way too many usages of 'procedure'
[2014/12/15 10:32] Rosie Gray: thank you
[2014/12/15 10:32] Rosie Gray: discussion?
[2014/12/15 10:33] Rosie Gray: no discussion? okay
[2014/12/15 10:33] Leslie Allandale: We will know more about it once we roll up our sleeves
[2014/12/15 10:33] Rosie Gray: then I call the question
[2014/12/15 10:33] anti Wirefly: aye
[2014/12/15 10:33] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): aye
[2014/12/15 10:33] Leslie Allandale: aye
[2014/12/15 10:33] Timo Gufler: aye
[2014/12/15 10:33] Rosie Gray: Shep?
[2014/12/15 10:33] anti Wirefly: she had a call
[2014/12/15 10:34] Rosie Gray: oh okay
[2014/12/15 10:34] anti Wirefly: hone call
[2014/12/15 10:34] Leslie Allandale: passes
[2014/12/15 10:34] Rosie Gray: I vote aye... the motion passes
[2014/12/15 10:34] Leslie Allandale: anyway
[2014/12/15 10:34] Leslie Allandale: Anything else from your committees, Rosie?
[2014/12/15 10:34] /me passes the baton to Leslie
[2014/12/15 10:34] Leslie Allandale: yay
[2014/12/15 10:34] Rosie Gray: nope
[2014/12/15 10:34] Second Life: Now playing: The Owl Service And Alison O'donell - Scarlet Threads & Silver Needles
[2014/12/15 10:35] Leslie Allandale: The gavel is now Josie's
[2014/12/15 10:35] Leslie Allandale: Ms. Coop?
[2014/12/15 10:35] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): Are we on #3?
[2014/12/15 10:36] Leslie Allandale: Yes
[2014/12/15 10:36] Second Life: Now playing: Martha Tilston - The Waters Of Tyne
[2014/12/15 10:37] Leslie Allandale: I would move that we adopt an RFP to advertise in the forum
[2014/12/15 10:37] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): Second
[2014/12/15 10:38] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): Before we vote,
[2014/12/15 10:38] Rosie Gray: a notice through the CDS group with link to the RFP would be a good idea too
[2014/12/15 10:38] Second Life: Now playing: Cam Penner - House Of Liars
[2014/12/15 10:40] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): I see you all had a chance to look at my general document.
[2014/12/15 10:40] Rosie Gray: link?
[2014/12/15 10:40] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): And we are all in agreement that it's time we can start the RFP process?
[2014/12/15 10:40] Leslie Allandale: Yes
[2014/12/15 10:40] anti Wirefly: yes
[2014/12/15 10:41] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xeu ... JQNko/edit
[2014/12/15 10:41] Timo Gufler: yes, we should start it
[2014/12/15 10:41] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): Ok, I move that Leslie begin the first draft of the RFP.
[2014/12/15 10:41] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): whispers: And can you share it to us so we can comment?
[2014/12/15 10:42] Leslie Allandale: I accept.
[2014/12/15 10:42] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): Ack - did not mean to whisper!
[2014/12/15 10:42] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): And can you share it to us so we can comment?
[2014/12/15 10:42] Leslie Allandale: Yes.
[2014/12/15 10:42] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): Second?
[2014/12/15 10:42] Leslie Allandale: I will start one in googledocs
[2014/12/15 10:42] anti Wirefly: second
[2014/12/15 10:42] Second Life: Now playing: Richard Thompson - 1952 Vincent Black Lightning
[2014/12/15 10:42] Shep (shep.titian): ok back
[2014/12/15 10:43] anti Wirefly: wb
[2014/12/15 10:43] Shep (shep.titian): ty
[2014/12/15 10:43] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): All in favor?
[2014/12/15 10:43] Leslie Allandale: aye
[2014/12/15 10:43] anti Wirefly: aye
[2014/12/15 10:43] Timo Gufler: aye
[2014/12/15 10:43] Rosie Gray: aye
[2014/12/15 10:43] Shep (shep.titian): need to read back ... so abstein
[2014/12/15 10:43] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): Motion carries
[2014/12/15 10:43] Rosie Gray: Shep we are on item 3 a.
[2014/12/15 10:44] Shep (shep.titian): thank you
[2014/12/15 10:44] Rosie Gray: no b.
[2014/12/15 10:44] Rosie Gray: now*
[2014/12/15 10:44] Leslie Allandale: giving me more to do while i am on break from roofing my garage.
[2014/12/15 10:46] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): Now 3. B. - I asked at the outset - we are all good to go on the general procedures. Check that off as covered.
[2014/12/15 10:46] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): Any questions before I hand the gavel to Timo?
[2014/12/15 10:47] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): For Time Line discussion
[2014/12/15 10:47] Second Life: Now playing: Targetspot - TargetSpot
[2014/12/15 10:47] /me hands the gavel to Timo
[2014/12/15 10:47] Leslie Allandale: no, thanks
[2014/12/15 10:47] Timo Gufler: ok, thank you
[2014/12/15 10:47] Rosie Gray: ㋡
[2014/12/15 10:47] Timo Gufler: have you all viewed my proposal for the timeline?
[2014/12/15 10:48] Leslie Allandale: I love the graphics
[2014/12/15 10:48] Timo Gufler:
[2014/12/15 10:48] /me nods
[2014/12/15 10:48] Leslie Allandale: And think the "windows" are "doable."
[2014/12/15 10:48] Timo Gufler: windows?
[2014/12/15 10:48] Rosie Gray: I like it
[2014/12/15 10:49] Second Life: Now playing: Jonathan Day - Bonnie Light Horseman
[2014/12/15 10:49] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): Lengths of time for each task
[2014/12/15 10:49] Leslie Allandale: windows of "opportunity." or durations
[2014/12/15 10:49] Timo Gufler: oh yes
[2014/12/15 10:49] Rosie Gray: it's ambitious, in certain areas
[2014/12/15 10:49] Rosie Gray: but that's okay ㋡
[2014/12/15 10:49] Leslie Allandale: I agree
[2014/12/15 10:50] Timo Gufler: we will be busy for sure
[2014/12/15 10:50] Leslie Allandale: but sometimes CDS needs a little push
[2014/12/15 10:50] Rosie Gray: yes I agree
[2014/12/15 10:50] Timo Gufler: but if the schedule was lazy, the new sims wouldn't be ready before the summer
[2014/12/15 10:50] /me nods
[2014/12/15 10:50] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): It looks good to me, with the caveat that I've never been though a CDS sim launch before! But many of you have, so I trust your judgment.
[2014/12/15 10:50] Rosie Gray: oh I haven't either
[2014/12/15 10:50] Leslie Allandale: could you do it as an independent?
[2014/12/15 10:50] Leslie Allandale: Josie
[2014/12/15 10:50] Rosie Gray: the last one was LA... think Timo was though?
[2014/12/15 10:51] Timo Gufler: Monastery
[2014/12/15 10:51] Rosie Gray: oh Monastery, okay
[2014/12/15 10:51] Leslie Allandale: If you were given all power, could you bring it on line at that pace?
[2014/12/15 10:51] Rosie Gray: and it was different
[2014/12/15 10:51] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): Oh yes - you could probably cut the time by 75% and do it as an independent
[2014/12/15 10:51] Timo Gufler: commissions and democracy make things slow for sure
[2014/12/15 10:52] Leslie Allandale: So it just means we need to be efficient and on the same page.
[2014/12/15 10:52] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): I've launched a sim in less than a week, from start to finish.
[2014/12/15 10:52] /me nods
[2014/12/15 10:52] Rosie Gray: I've launched sims before too, but CDS is very different
[2014/12/15 10:52] Leslie Allandale: you work 24/7 Josie
[2014/12/15 10:52] Shep (shep.titian): Vic maintains he's very fast with infrastructure
[2014/12/15 10:52] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): True :-)
[2014/12/15 10:52] Timo Gufler: when Monastery was planned and built, it took months
[2014/12/15 10:52] Timo Gufler: and there was a lot of fighting
[2014/12/15 10:52] Leslie Allandale: But, is this something we can adopt?
[2014/12/15 10:53] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): Vic's statement is true. I've seen him knock out major builds in 24 hours.
[2014/12/15 10:53] Leslie Allandale: We need to get LUC total control, and not fight.
[2014/12/15 10:53] Rosie Gray: we will not have 'total control'
[2014/12/15 10:53] Timo Gufler: as long as we can keep this out of the forums, things can be kept calm
[2014/12/15 10:53] /me nods
[2014/12/15 10:53] Leslie Allandale: I know, Rosie
[2014/12/15 10:53] Rosie Gray: ;)
[2014/12/15 10:54] Rosie Gray: I agree with Timo on the forums thing
[2014/12/15 10:54] Leslie Allandale: But that would be the "grease for the rails."
[2014/12/15 10:54] Shep (shep.titian): Yes
[2014/12/15 10:54] Rosie Gray: people can come to these meetings and learn what is happening if they want to
[2014/12/15 10:54] /me remembers the long fights about the Monastery sim on the forums
[2014/12/15 10:54] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): In looking at the timeline, it appears that Timo built in the necessary amount of time for everything.
[2014/12/15 10:54] Second Life: Now playing: Marie Moreshead - Wichita Rain
[2014/12/15 10:54] Timo Gufler: timelines are to be modified if needed
[2014/12/15 10:54] Leslie Allandale: Can we adopt and send it to the RA?
[2014/12/15 10:55] Timo Gufler: any motions?
[2014/12/15 10:55] Leslie Allandale: I move
[2014/12/15 10:55] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): The thing here that is taking the extra time is the RFP and plan submission process. And I completely understand why that is necessary.
[2014/12/15 10:55] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): Second
[2014/12/15 10:55] Rosie Gray: we should hear the motion first!
[2014/12/15 10:55] Timo Gufler: let's vote then
[2014/12/15 10:55] Leslie Allandale: aye
[2014/12/15 10:55] Timo Gufler: the motion is that we accept the plan and send to the RA
[2014/12/15 10:56] Rosie Gray: okay, and you made that motion?
[2014/12/15 10:56] Rosie Gray: sorry didn't see that
[2014/12/15 10:56] anti Wirefly: aye
[2014/12/15 10:56] Rosie Gray: aye
[2014/12/15 10:56] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): Aye
[2014/12/15 10:56] Shep (shep.titian): aye
[2014/12/15 10:56] Timo Gufler: aye
[2014/12/15 10:56] Timo Gufler: the motion carries
[2014/12/15 10:57] anti Wirefly: I a_logise that I must take off
[2014/12/15 10:57] Second Life: Now playing: Gavin Davenport - From The Bone Orchard
[2014/12/15 10:57] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): Ok anti :-)
[2014/12/15 10:57] anti Wirefly: She_ has agreed to hel_ with minutes
[2014/12/15 10:57] Timo Gufler: Law Reivew and Josie's turn
[2014/12/15 10:57] anti Wirefly: good luck with it
[2014/12/15 10:57] Rosie Gray: bye anti
[2014/12/15 10:58] anti Wirefly: bye
[2014/12/15 10:58] Rosie Gray: I have to leave too in a few minutes
[2014/12/15 10:58] Leslie Allandale: avoir
[2014/12/15 10:58] Shep (shep.titian): bye anti
[2014/12/15 10:58] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): Ok - I'll be super quick because I want Rosie to comment if she needs to
[2014/12/15 10:58] Shep (shep.titian): Shep agreed to send her a transcription .. not minutes
[2014/12/15 10:59] Rosie Gray: I'll help her again with the Minutes Shep
[2014/12/15 10:59] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): We've established an excellent working relationship with the Law Review Commission on the laws that pertain to things that fall under LUC purview.
[2014/12/15 10:59] Shep (shep.titian): ok cool
[2014/12/15 11:00] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): So far Les, Rosie and I have been able to give them feedback of what we need and we're working together to make sure that our plans align with the laws.
[2014/12/15 11:00] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): Right now I am working on a draft of a "universal covenant" with input from Rosie.
[2014/12/15 11:01] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): Rosie is also working on sim-specific covenant information.
[2014/12/15 11:01] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): Want to add anything Rosie?
[2014/12/15 11:01] Shep (shep.titian): that's a good idea
[2014/12/15 11:01] Rosie Gray: not now thanks Josie
[2014/12/15 11:02] Second Life: Now playing: Folk Radio Uk - Folk Radio UK
[2014/12/15 11:02] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): Ok cool. So far I've seen an excellent collaboration with us and Law Review. They are taking us and our needs into consideration first.
[2014/12/15 11:02] Second Life: Now playing: Caitlin Rose - Answer In One Of These Bottles
[2014/12/15 11:02] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): As we'll be working under laws about land.
[2014/12/15 11:02] Leslie Allandale: when can we see a rough draft?
[2014/12/15 11:03] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): I'll have a rough draft, oh by Wednesday. At the latest.
[2014/12/15 11:03] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): And I'll share it with Rosie before that.
[2014/12/15 11:03] Rosie Gray: great ㋡
[2014/12/15 11:03] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): Any questions about what we are doing with Law Review?
[2014/12/15 11:03] Leslie Allandale: Will LR be posting it to the Forum?
[2014/12/15 11:04] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): Of that I am not sure.
[2014/12/15 11:04] Leslie Allandale: And will we be having conferences with RA sometime inbetween?
[2014/12/15 11:04] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): We're going to pass them our product as soon as we can.
[2014/12/15 11:05] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): We need to decide when to bring the RA in.
[2014/12/15 11:05] Leslie Allandale: The procedure will be interesting to follow, that is for sure.
[2014/12/15 11:05] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): And that might be up to the Law Review folks, as the actual laws are under their purview.
[2014/12/15 11:06] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): We're basically "helping them out". I assume they'd decide when to present to the RA?
[2014/12/15 11:06] Leslie Allandale: They need to correspond with relevant laws that is for sure -- many of which have been changed since some of the covenant was written
[2014/12/15 11:06] Second Life: Now playing: Zachary Cale - Blood Rushes On
[2014/12/15 11:07] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): I can ask Widget what her intention is for the documents that Rosie and I create.
[2014/12/15 11:07] Leslie Allandale: I would thank you, Josie, for all the extra effort you have put into this process -- and Rosie, too.
[2014/12/15 11:07] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): And if she has a plan to submit them to the RA on their own, or with the other laws they've cleaned up of late.
[2014/12/15 11:08] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): Law Review have been working like crazy! They have completed a lot/
[2014/12/15 11:08] Leslie Allandale: It is beyond belief.
[2014/12/15 11:08] Rosie Gray: there was certainly a lot to clean up!
[2014/12/15 11:08] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): My goal was to get my part, the universal covenant to Widget by Friday.
[2014/12/15 11:08] Leslie Allandale: The little dynamos in CDS are certainly churning.
[2014/12/15 11:08] Rosie Gray: all will have to be debated by the RA though
[2014/12/15 11:08] /me grins
[2014/12/15 11:09] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): Ha!
[2014/12/15 11:09] Shep (shep.titian): whirring
[2014/12/15 11:09] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): So, I'll ask Widget what their plan is for submitting all these items to the RA.
[2014/12/15 11:09] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): I'll ask Coop roughly how many they have completed.
[2014/12/15 11:10] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): He might even know their plan to submit to the RA.
[2014/12/15 11:10] Leslie Allandale: We can have more news by next meeting then?
[2014/12/15 11:10] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): Most likely. I'll probably have an answer by tonight.
[2014/12/15 11:11] Second Life: Now playing: Lady Maisery - This Woman's Work
[2014/12/15 11:11] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): The good thing is that so far, Law Review and LUC seem to be on the same page, about what is most important.
[2014/12/15 11:11] Leslie Allandale: Shall we move quickly?
[2014/12/15 11:11] Leslie Allandale: Rosie has to leave in 5
[2014/12/15 11:12] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): Any questions?
[2014/12/15 11:12] Leslie Allandale: no, you are great
[2014/12/15 11:12] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): Who gets the gavel next? I can toss it to you!
[2014/12/15 11:12] Leslie Allandale: sure
[2014/12/15 11:12] Leslie Allandale: Shep, can we skip Liaison?
[2014/12/15 11:13] Leslie Allandale: I hope so
[2014/12/15 11:13] Leslie Allandale: Any new business?
[2014/12/15 11:13] Shep (shep.titian): Yes as its not hugel;y intricate lol
[2014/12/15 11:13] Leslie Allandale: good
[2014/12/15 11:14] Leslie Allandale: Questions from the audience?
[2014/12/15 11:14] Leslie Allandale: Mr. Torok?
[2014/12/15 11:14] Leslie Allandale: Did we put you to sleep?
[2014/12/15 11:14] Second Life: Now playing: Dan Amor - Diamonds In A Claw
[2014/12/15 11:14] Leslie Allandale: Next meeting?
[2014/12/15 11:14] Shep (shep.titian): Is the audience awake?
[2014/12/15 11:14] Leslie Allandale: Any suggestions?
[2014/12/15 11:14] Leslie Allandale: no
[2014/12/15 11:14] Leslie Allandale: Timo, what is good for you?
[2014/12/15 11:15] Timo Gufler: how about the next week at this same time?
[2014/12/15 11:15] Leslie Allandale: yes
[2014/12/15 11:15] Leslie Allandale: Rosie?
[2014/12/15 11:15] Leslie Allandale: Josie?
[2014/12/15 11:15] Leslie Allandale: I like consistency
[2014/12/15 11:15] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): Let me check
[2014/12/15 11:15] Shep (shep.titian): Fine
[2014/12/15 11:15] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): Looks good to me
[2014/12/15 11:16] Rosie Gray: sorry... let me look
[2014/12/15 11:16] Rosie Gray: yes looks good for me ㋡
[2014/12/15 11:16] Leslie Allandale: done
[2014/12/15 11:16] Leslie Allandale: next Monday at 10
[2014/12/15 11:16] Leslie Allandale: happy holidays.
[2014/12/15 11:16] Rosie Gray: are we adjourned?
[2014/12/15 11:16] Leslie Allandale: do you move
[2014/12/15 11:17] Leslie Allandale: I need a motion and second
[2014/12/15 11:17] Rosie Gray: oh just wondered about the items 5 - 6
[2014/12/15 11:17] Timo Gufler: I move that we adjourn
[2014/12/15 11:17] Shep (shep.titian): I move we adjourn
[2014/12/15 11:17] Leslie Allandale: voted
[2014/12/15 11:17] Shep (shep.titian): hahaha
[2014/12/15 11:17] Timo Gufler: :)
[2014/12/15 11:17] Second Life: Now playing: Targetspot - TargetSpot
[2014/12/15 11:17] Leslie Allandale: all in favor?
[2014/12/15 11:17] Rosie Gray: aye
[2014/12/15 11:18] Josie Cooperstone (josephine.fotherington): aye
[2014/12/15 11:18] Timo Gufler: aye
[2014/12/15 11:18] Shep (shep.titian): aye
[2014/12/15 11:18] Rosie Gray: yippee ㋡
[2014/12/15 11:18] Leslie Allandale: carried
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