August 4, 2019 LUC transcript

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August 4, 2019 LUC transcript

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[2019/08/04 09:22] Scylla Rhiadra: is online.
[2019/08/04 09:22] Gryll Jester: is online.
[2019/08/04 09:22] Pip Torok: is online.
[2019/08/04 09:22] iSkye Silverweb: is online.
[2019/08/04 09:22] Shep (Shep Titian): is online.
[2019/08/04 09:22] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): is online.
[2019/08/04 09:22] Cathy Sabre: is online.
[2019/08/04 09:22] Soro Dagostino: is online.
[2019/08/04 09:22] Laura Azalee: entered the region (204.16 m).
[2019/08/04 09:22] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): is online.
[2019/08/04 09:22] Coolin Seaside: is online.
[2019/08/04 09:22] Laura Azalee: is online.
[2019/08/04 09:22] Aᴘᴘʏ (AppaloosaHorse Resident): is online.
[2019/08/04 09:22] Sylvia Templeton Broek (Sylvia Tamalyn): is online.
[2019/08/04 09:22] Lilith Ivory: is online.
[2019/08/04 09:22] Emilia (emilia Avindar): is online.
[2019/08/04 09:22] LAQ updates: Erica skin, eyes and hairbase is out now at LAQ!
[2019/08/04 09:22] Second Life: Flight Assist is enabled
[2019/08/04 09:22] Gallery Barzane (Controller): MoCA Art Opening in 14 minutes please join us!
[2019/08/04 09:22] Laura Azalee: is offline.
[2019/08/04 09:22] Laura Azalee: left the region.
[2019/08/04 09:23] Second Life: You decline 'LAQ Erica skin, eyes, hairbase' ( http://slurl.com/secondlife/LAQ/23/166/538 ) from LAQ updates.
[2019/08/04 09:23] Second Life: You decline 'Busy Art Weekend!' ( http://slurl.com/secondlife/Colonia%20Nova/228/187/2000 ) from Gallery Barzane (Controller).
[2019/08/04 09:23] Coolin Seaside: is offline.
[2019/08/04 09:28] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): is online.
[2019/08/04 09:32] Second Life: Teleport completed from http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/C ... /54/180/43
[2019/08/04 09:32] Cathy Sabre: entered chat range (8.67 m).
[2019/08/04 09:32] Cathy Sabre: entered the region (8.67 m).
[2019/08/04 09:32] Lilith Ivory: entered chat range (8.08 m).
[2019/08/04 09:32] Lilith Ivory: entered the region (8.08 m).
[2019/08/04 09:32] Pip Torok: entered chat range (7.60 m).
[2019/08/04 09:32] Pip Torok: entered the region (7.60 m).
[2019/08/04 09:32] Hannah Marie De La Cruz: entered chat range (11.63 m).
[2019/08/04 09:32] Hannah Marie De La Cruz: entered the region (11.63 m).
[2019/08/04 09:32] badgerofzen: entered chat range (12.21 m).
[2019/08/04 09:32] badgerofzen: entered the region (12.21 m).
[2019/08/04 09:32] Kyoko Furse-Barzane: entered chat range (5.90 m).
[2019/08/04 09:32] Kyoko Furse-Barzane: entered the region (5.90 m).
[2019/08/04 09:32] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): /me bows humbly
[2019/08/04 09:32] Lilith Ivory: Hi Kyoko
[2019/08/04 09:32] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): Hiya, Rosie
[2019/08/04 09:32] Lilith Ivory: Hi Rosie :)
[2019/08/04 09:33] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): Heya Badger :)
[2019/08/04 09:33] Rosie Gray: hi! lol, sorry about that I guess I had written the time down wrong
[2019/08/04 09:33] Lilith Ivory: Hi Badger :)
[2019/08/04 09:33] Akiko Yoshikawa (Akiko Qinan): is online.
[2019/08/04 09:33] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): heheheh no worries :)
[2019/08/04 09:33] badgerofzen Resident: hullo hannah lilith and all
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[2019/08/04 09:33] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): This is Sunday right?
[2019/08/04 09:34] Scylla Rhiadra: is offline.
[2019/08/04 09:34] Rosie Gray: sorry folks please give me a moment
[2019/08/04 09:34] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): it's the 4th :D
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[2019/08/04 09:34] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): /me giggles
[2019/08/04 09:35] Rosie Gray: right, welcome everyone!
[2019/08/04 09:35] Rosie Gray: I call this meeting to order
[2019/08/04 09:35] Rosie Gray: Sudane has said that she would be late but to start without her
[2019/08/04 09:36] Cathy Sabre: fyi, I may have to leave without warning.
[2019/08/04 09:36] Rosie Gray: so noted
[2019/08/04 09:36] Lyubov: entered chat range (19.97 m).
[2019/08/04 09:36] Lyubov: entered the region (19.97 m).
[2019/08/04 09:36] Rosie Gray: will you be taking the transcript?
[2019/08/04 09:36] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): I'm taking the transcript :3
[2019/08/04 09:36] Cathy Sabre: Han is here
[2019/08/04 09:41] Rosie Gray: well perhaps we get started then
[2019/08/04 09:41] Rosie Gray: has everyone read the notes that Han posted?
[2019/08/04 09:42] Lilith Ivory: notes that Han posted?
[2019/08/04 09:42] Lilith Ivory: looks like I missed those
[2019/08/04 09:42] Rosie Gray: just this morning
[2019/08/04 09:42] Rosie Gray: http://forums.slcds.info/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=9091
[2019/08/04 09:42] Lilith Ivory: ah , let me check
[2019/08/04 09:42] Rosie Gray: Han, thanks for posting them, but I can't really call them Minutes since they are not in Minute format
[2019/08/04 09:43] Rosie Gray: anyway, they serve the purpose
[2019/08/04 09:43] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): o.o
[2019/08/04 09:43] Cathy Sabre: I agree,
[2019/08/04 09:43] Cathy Sabre: move to adopt
[2019/08/04 09:43] Hope: entered the region (123.50 m).
[2019/08/04 09:43] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): Okay
[2019/08/04 09:43] Rosie Gray: do we have a second?
[2019/08/04 09:43] Lilith Ivory: I second
[2019/08/04 09:43] Rosie Gray: all in favour?
[2019/08/04 09:43] Cathy Sabre: aye
[2019/08/04 09:43] Lilith Ivory: aye
[2019/08/04 09:43] Rosie Gray: aye
[2019/08/04 09:44] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): YeSaH! I mean aye
[2019/08/04 09:44] Rosie Gray: motion carried
[2019/08/04 09:44] Rosie Gray: and here comes Ms. Erato
[2019/08/04 09:45] Lilith Ivory: Hi Sudane :)
[2019/08/04 09:45] Sudane Erato: hi :)
[2019/08/04 09:45] Rosie Gray: we have proposed wording for an upgraded covenant for Colonia Nova on the forum as well
[2019/08/04 09:45] Rosie Gray: hi Sudane ㋡
[2019/08/04 09:45] Sudane Erato: sorry for lateness
[2019/08/04 09:45] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): Hi, Sudane
[2019/08/04 09:45] Rosie Gray: http://forums.slcds.info/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=9087
[2019/08/04 09:45] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): No worries
[2019/08/04 09:46] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): haven't had time to read that so no comment, at least for now
[2019/08/04 09:46] Rosie Gray: fyi Delia is having trouble logging in and keeps crashing when she tries to get here
[2019/08/04 09:47] Lilith Ivory: oh my
[2019/08/04 09:47] Rosie Gray: has everyone had a chance to look at the proposed covenant?
[2019/08/04 09:47] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): Nooooooo!
[2019/08/04 09:47] Lilith Ivory: I had
[2019/08/04 09:48] Rosie Gray: okay take a moment to read it
[2019/08/04 09:48] Rosie Gray: Delia is still trying to get here
[2019/08/04 09:48] Lilith Ivory: she might want to use the coordinates here when logging in
[2019/08/04 09:48] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): might be easier to ask one of us for a TP
[2019/08/04 09:48] Lilith Ivory: helped me a lot while being on a weak connection
[2019/08/04 09:48] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): unless that puts her in the basement :/
[2019/08/04 09:48] Rosie Gray: I've sent her a tp twice
[2019/08/04 09:49] Rosie Gray: anyway
[2019/08/04 09:49] Rosie Gray: Cathy, would you like to point out the main changes to the covenant?
[2019/08/04 09:50] Cathy Sabre: We have tried to update the various zones that no longer exist or have changed due to the new social milieu
[2019/08/04 09:51] Cathy Sabre: I believe it is short enough that you can compare what was finally posted by Rosie in the forum with the one in the SLCDS site
[2019/08/04 09:52] Cathy Sabre: If you have any specific questions, I will try to answer them
[2019/08/04 09:52] Cathy Sabre: done
[2019/08/04 09:52] Sudane Erato: raise hand
[2019/08/04 09:52] Cathy Sabre: yes
[2019/08/04 09:53] Sudane Erato: I have a problem with the prim parcels for parcels who's build is anchored off-parcel
[2019/08/04 09:53] Sudane Erato: like... all of the FV
[2019/08/04 09:53] Sudane Erato: and hopefully, someday, all of the parcels in the walls
[2019/08/04 09:53] Sudane Erato: done
[2019/08/04 09:54] Cathy Sabre: What would you suggest?
[2019/08/04 09:54] Sudane Erato: getting rid of them
[2019/08/04 09:54] Sudane Erato: or
[2019/08/04 09:54] Sudane Erato: allowing them only for the C parcels who's build is not anchored off parcel
[2019/08/04 09:54] Cathy Sabre: I agree
[2019/08/04 09:55] Cathy Sabre: But we need to move on this, imo.
[2019/08/04 09:55] Sudane Erato: well, i defer to the group on this
[2019/08/04 09:55] Sudane Erato: its just a old theme of mine
[2019/08/04 09:55] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): Need to move? Is there a time concern I'm not aware of?
[2019/08/04 09:56] Rosie Gray: I personally would like to see the prim parcels available to anyone who has a parcel in CN
[2019/08/04 09:56] Cathy Sabre: If you read the forum post, I pointed out that only one prim parcel is rented, and it is to you, Sudane.
[2019/08/04 09:56] Rosie Gray: it's not as if they have been in high demand, so why not let anyone who wants one have it
[2019/08/04 09:56] Sudane Erato: to me???
[2019/08/04 09:56] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): /me raises her hand
[2019/08/04 09:56] Sudane Erato: i don't think so
[2019/08/04 09:56] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): I agree with Rosie
[2019/08/04 09:57] Lilith Ivory: I agree too
[2019/08/04 09:57] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): /me raises my hand as well
[2019/08/04 09:57] Lilith Ivory: and in the past I have sold them to anyone in CN who wanted one anyway :)
[2019/08/04 09:57] Rosie Gray: :D
[2019/08/04 09:57] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): /me rased her hand to speak
[2019/08/04 09:57] Sudane Erato: :)
[2019/08/04 09:57] Lilith Ivory: perhaps we should just set them for sale
[2019/08/04 09:57] Rosie Gray: yes Han?
[2019/08/04 09:57] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): Kyoko first, then me. :)
[2019/08/04 09:57] Rosie Gray: then Kyoko
[2019/08/04 09:57] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): thanks Han
[2019/08/04 09:57] Rosie Gray: oh okay
[2019/08/04 09:58] Sudane Erato: hehe
[2019/08/04 09:58] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): Thje one parcel that is rented is to Calli for her gacha gallery
[2019/08/04 09:58] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): I had a plan that I showed Rosie which reduced the number of prim parcels and added 2-3 larger parcels along the river
[2019/08/04 09:59] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): I don't want to confuse the basic covenant with that so I am not asking for a discussion
[2019/08/04 09:59] Delia Lake: entered the region (123.43 m).
[2019/08/04 09:59] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): BUT I would be open to 1 of 2 options.
[2019/08/04 10:00] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): 1. reducing # of prim parcel and making a couple of waterfront plots or letting anyone whio has a parcel in CN rent them
[2019/08/04 10:00] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): #2 reduces the burden on the EMs
[2019/08/04 10:00] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): as I said let's leave #1 for another time
[2019/08/04 10:01] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): but those are my thoughts
[2019/08/04 10:01] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): done
[2019/08/04 10:01] Rosie Gray: thank you Kyoko
[2019/08/04 10:01] Rosie Gray: Han?
[2019/08/04 10:02] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): Actually I answered my own question re-reading the forum; sorry
[2019/08/04 10:02] Rosie Gray: okay ㋡
[2019/08/04 10:02] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): /me pats Hannah onna head
[2019/08/04 10:02] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): /me purrs ^^
[2019/08/04 10:02] Rosie Gray: anyone else like to comment on this?
[2019/08/04 10:02] Sudane Erato: i think its great otherwise
[2019/08/04 10:02] Sudane Erato: tho i wish we could make all of them shorter
[2019/08/04 10:03] Cathy Sabre: can we?
[2019/08/04 10:03] Rosie Gray: is everyone okay with the idea of anchoring zones S and E?
[2019/08/04 10:03] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): I'm fine with that.
[2019/08/04 10:03] Sudane Erato: E ?
[2019/08/04 10:03] Cathy Sabre: c and 3
[2019/08/04 10:03] Cathy Sabre: e
[2019/08/04 10:03] Rosie Gray: the parcels along the cardo
[2019/08/04 10:03] Cathy Sabre: c and s
[2019/08/04 10:03] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): E?
[2019/08/04 10:03] Sudane Erato: sorry... didn't notice that
[2019/08/04 10:04] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): I own and E and I have plenty of prims
[2019/08/04 10:04] Sudane Erato: why E ?
[2019/08/04 10:04] Rosie Gray: C & FV are already approved
[2019/08/04 10:04] Sudane Erato: E's are big parcels outside the walls
[2019/08/04 10:04] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): yep
[2019/08/04 10:04] Rosie Gray: I thought that E were the cardo plots
[2019/08/04 10:04] Rosie Gray: inside the wall
[2019/08/04 10:04] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): what are cardo plots?
[2019/08/04 10:04] Cathy Sabre: Cardo is east of the walls
[2019/08/04 10:04] Lilith Ivory: isn´t E the ones besides the theatre?
[2019/08/04 10:05] Rosie Gray: you know the whole naming system is somewhat confusing
[2019/08/04 10:05] Sudane Erato: E's are the 4 parcels opposite the theater
[2019/08/04 10:05] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): yep
[2019/08/04 10:05] Lilith Ivory: yup
[2019/08/04 10:05] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): I thought it was just me :3
[2019/08/04 10:05] Sudane Erato: hehe
[2019/08/04 10:05] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): nah Han
[2019/08/04 10:05] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): we all confuddled
[2019/08/04 10:05] Rosie Gray: lol, obviously we are!
[2019/08/04 10:05] Sudane Erato: we need a map! :)
[2019/08/04 10:05] Sudane Erato: haha
[2019/08/04 10:05] Rosie Gray: well I know that some at least are inside of the walls and along the cardo which is the main drag
[2019/08/04 10:06] Sudane Erato: I THINK that inside the walls are only S's and C's
[2019/08/04 10:06] Rosie Gray: and the description of C as 'inner city', makes you think that it is the whole of the inner city, which it isn't
[2019/08/04 10:06] Rosie Gray: hmmm
[2019/08/04 10:06] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): I almost wanna ask about working on alternate naming (wtf is a cardo?), but that might get out of hand quickly....
[2019/08/04 10:07] Cathy Sabre: I didn't notice any e inside the walls when we looked the other day, Rosie
[2019/08/04 10:07] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): so maybe not.
[2019/08/04 10:07] Sudane Erato: I THINK that Cardo is the name, or part of the name, of the east-west street
[2019/08/04 10:07] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): Hello, Tailsworth :)
[2019/08/04 10:07] Pip Torok: hello horse!
[2019/08/04 10:07] Rosie Gray: /me uses her superpowers to look at the parcels where she thinks E is
[2019/08/04 10:08] Lilith Ivory: HI Tailsworth :)
[2019/08/04 10:08] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): No, I meant what does it mean...I'd pick another name, like a "via" or something more obviously roadish. The name is confusing, I meant. But picking names could turn into a huge over-involved thing itself.
[2019/08/04 10:08] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): No more sugar cubes for you ;)
[2019/08/04 10:08] Tailsworth: /me grumbles a little
[2019/08/04 10:08] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): /me passes apples to the left ^^
[2019/08/04 10:08] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): :)
[2019/08/04 10:08] Rosie Gray: hello Tailsworth
[2019/08/04 10:08] Lilith Ivory: I have to confess that all zones in CDS confuse me so the name does not really matter to me :)
[2019/08/04 10:08] Tailsworth (Tailsworth Horsley): So we're discussing land usage?
[2019/08/04 10:09] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): We're working on the covenant for the COlonia Nova region
[2019/08/04 10:09] Rosie Gray: ah I think that you are correct and that E's are outside of the city walls
[2019/08/04 10:09] Tailsworth (Tailsworth Horsley): Oooh apples
[2019/08/04 10:10] Sudane Erato: I thought Gaius was working on names
[2019/08/04 10:10] Tailsworth (Tailsworth Horsley): Now that I can get behind
[2019/08/04 10:10] Sudane Erato: is he still around?
[2019/08/04 10:10] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): I don't think he's logged in since...Jan? Last I looked?
[2019/08/04 10:10] Rosie Gray: there was a roads committee
[2019/08/04 10:10] Sudane Erato: :(
[2019/08/04 10:10] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): He rents one small parcel in the city
[2019/08/04 10:10] Rosie Gray: and unfortunately Gaius who started it hasn't kept it up
[2019/08/04 10:10] Pip Torok: I hope so, many names are not yet o,[;emented
[2019/08/04 10:10] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): he's paid up for several months last I looked
[2019/08/04 10:10] Pip Torok: implemented
[2019/08/04 10:11] Rosie Gray: the roads committee didn't get to doing CN in any case
[2019/08/04 10:12] Rosie Gray: so we should remove the E from the idea of anchoring, yes?
[2019/08/04 10:12] Sudane Erato: yes
[2019/08/04 10:12] Rosie Gray: /me nods
[2019/08/04 10:12] Cathy Sabre: ye
[2019/08/04 10:12] Lilith Ivory: I´d remove all outside the walls but the fishing village
[2019/08/04 10:12] Cathy Sabre: yes
[2019/08/04 10:12] Rosie Gray: that was my mistake, sorry
[2019/08/04 10:12] Sudane Erato: anchor C and S and FV
[2019/08/04 10:13] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): I agree with Lilith; those are the only ones that make sense to anchor
[2019/08/04 10:13] Cathy Sabre: So we need a motion?
[2019/08/04 10:13] Sudane Erato: then we can see where we stand with prims
[2019/08/04 10:13] Rosie Gray: yes, I think it was an issue of trying to sort out which zones are where
[2019/08/04 10:13] Cathy Sabre: Or, does anyone object?
[2019/08/04 10:13] Rosie Gray: I don't think we need a motion
[2019/08/04 10:14] Rosie Gray: any more discussion? Kyoko what do you think?
[2019/08/04 10:14] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): remove E
[2019/08/04 10:14] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): C S and FV yes
[2019/08/04 10:14] Rosie Gray: yes, but you're good with adding S?
[2019/08/04 10:14] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): those are the stalls?
[2019/08/04 10:14] Rosie Gray: yes
[2019/08/04 10:15] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): are those folks clamoring for more prims?
[2019/08/04 10:15] Rosie Gray: and of course it would only come into effect when someone leaves a parcel, or if they give their permission
[2019/08/04 10:15] Rosie Gray: it's not about them asking for prims, it's about updating the buildings and making them permanent
[2019/08/04 10:15] Sudane Erato: I think that anchoring S's has already been made law
[2019/08/04 10:16] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): then that's that LOL
[2019/08/04 10:16] Rosie Gray: no it was C that already was approved
[2019/08/04 10:16] Sudane Erato: ??
[2019/08/04 10:16] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): I know
[2019/08/04 10:16] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): lm where they troughed and I'm on it
[2019/08/04 10:16] Sudane Erato: OK... boy, al I confused...
[2019/08/04 10:16] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): sorryt was talking to Tailsworth LOLL
[2019/08/04 10:16] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): ignore trough comment
[2019/08/04 10:17] Tailsworth (Tailsworth Horsley): :P
[2019/08/04 10:17] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): :)
[2019/08/04 10:17] Tailsworth (Tailsworth Horsley): It's secret horsie stuff
[2019/08/04 10:17] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): strike trough from transcruipt LOL
[2019/08/04 10:17] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): stricken **giggles**
[2019/08/04 10:17] Rosie Gray: egads, I'm wrong again
[2019/08/04 10:18] Rosie Gray: it was S that was already approved
[2019/08/04 10:18] Sudane Erato: *whew*!
[2019/08/04 10:18] Sudane Erato: hehe
[2019/08/04 10:18] Rosie Gray: (just using superpowers again to check)
[2019/08/04 10:18] Rosie Gray: my apologies for mixing it up on the forum posting
[2019/08/04 10:19] Lilith Ivory: as we want to anchor all within the citywalls , cn´t we just make it one zone?
[2019/08/04 10:19] Lilith Ivory: to avoid confusion
[2019/08/04 10:19] Sudane Erato: maybe we should pass a morion to rename ALL CN parcels! :)
[2019/08/04 10:19] Rosie Gray: we could, but then all of the parcels...
[2019/08/04 10:19] Rosie Gray: yes
[2019/08/04 10:19] Sudane Erato: *motion
[2019/08/04 10:19] Lilith Ivory: I second
[2019/08/04 10:19] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): /me crosses and uncrosses her eyes
[2019/08/04 10:19] Rosie Gray: are you okay with doing that, Sudane?
[2019/08/04 10:19] Sudane Erato: lol
[2019/08/04 10:19] Rosie Gray: since it all falls to you
[2019/08/04 10:20] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): wait wait
[2019/08/04 10:20] Sudane Erato: *stupid* Sudane!!@#$#@!
[2019/08/04 10:20] Lilith Ivory: /me giggles
[2019/08/04 10:20] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): /me hugs sudane
[2019/08/04 10:20] Sudane Erato: hehe
[2019/08/04 10:20] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): are we going to pick out new names? or what?
[2019/08/04 10:20] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): I'm confused now
[2019/08/04 10:20] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): I can do the web once I have a list
[2019/08/04 10:20] Lilith Ivory: C for withing the city and other letters for outside
[2019/08/04 10:20] Rosie Gray: wouldn't we just change them all to one?
[2019/08/04 10:21] Rosie Gray: that would make it far less confusing
[2019/08/04 10:21] Lilith Ivory: we need several zones for outside the walls
[2019/08/04 10:21] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): how many types within the city
[2019/08/04 10:21] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): C & S?
[2019/08/04 10:21] Lilith Ivory: the E's, F and the ones at the river
[2019/08/04 10:22] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): E, F and FV should be unique imho
[2019/08/04 10:22] Delia Lake: is offline.
[2019/08/04 10:22] Lilith Ivory: /me scratches her head
[2019/08/04 10:22] Rosie Gray: which are F?
[2019/08/04 10:22] Sudane Erato: which ones are F ?
[2019/08/04 10:22] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): FV
[2019/08/04 10:22] Sudane Erato: oh... ok, yes
[2019/08/04 10:22] Cathy Sabre: How about L and B?
[2019/08/04 10:22] Rosie Gray: ah
[2019/08/04 10:22] Rosie Gray: there are no L and B
[2019/08/04 10:23] Sudane Erato: i think there are
[2019/08/04 10:23] Sudane Erato: south of the river
[2019/08/04 10:23] Cathy Sabre: south of the river
[2019/08/04 10:23] Rosie Gray: there are?
[2019/08/04 10:23] Rosie Gray: oh of course
[2019/08/04 10:23] Sudane Erato: one for the band along the border
[2019/08/04 10:23] Rosie Gray: /me smacks her forehead
[2019/08/04 10:23] Cathy Sabre: two rows on next to AM
[2019/08/04 10:23] Cathy Sabre: the other next to the river
[2019/08/04 10:23] Sudane Erato: and the other along the river
[2019/08/04 10:23] Sudane Erato: yes
[2019/08/04 10:23] Cathy Sabre: I suggested combining them in the forum post.
[2019/08/04 10:24] Lilith Ivory: I wonder if we can´t have the same covenant for E, L and B
[2019/08/04 10:24] Rosie Gray: wasn't the idea for the parcels along the river to be more rural though?
[2019/08/04 10:25] Lilith Ivory: I would not mind having E more rural too
[2019/08/04 10:25] Delia Lake: is online.
[2019/08/04 10:25] Rosie Gray: actually I would agree with that too
[2019/08/04 10:25] Lilith Ivory: looks like people love having gardens :)
[2019/08/04 10:25] Sudane Erato: hehe
[2019/08/04 10:25] Cathy Sabre: I do
[2019/08/04 10:25] Rosie Gray: but we'd have to grandfather the existing builds
[2019/08/04 10:26] Rosie Gray: until they want to be changed
[2019/08/04 10:26] Lilith Ivory: there are only two rented atm
[2019/08/04 10:26] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): Sudane and I had talked abouty that as a cultural focus
[2019/08/04 10:26] Lilith Ivory: and one is not urban anyway
[2019/08/04 10:26] Rosie Gray: but it would make the distinction between the inner city and the fishing village more obvious
[2019/08/04 10:26] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): which is why I put The NEW Art Cafe there
[2019/08/04 10:27] Sudane Erato: the wide straight road with the theater on one side has more of a formal feel to it
[2019/08/04 10:27] Rosie Gray: well if we leave them as is, that's okay too
[2019/08/04 10:28] Lilith Ivory: fine with me
[2019/08/04 10:28] Rosie Gray: but definitely we don't need the parcels along the river to be the same as those
[2019/08/04 10:28] Cathy Sabre: I need to log. But, an available to continue working on the covenant at the commission 's discretion.
[2019/08/04 10:28] Rosie Gray: okay thanks Cathy
[2019/08/04 10:28] Rosie Gray: bye for now
[2019/08/04 10:28] Sudane Erato: thx Cathy :)
[2019/08/04 10:29] Delia Lake: entered the region (123.99 m).
[2019/08/04 10:29] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): I agree across the river is different
[2019/08/04 10:29] Rosie Gray: so, Sudane, would you be okay with renaming all of those parcel Caspers, insie the city?
[2019/08/04 10:30] Rosie Gray: inside*
[2019/08/04 10:30] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): /me will help
[2019/08/04 10:30] Rosie Gray: and Kyoko helping on the Casper site?
[2019/08/04 10:30] Sudane Erato: sure... if we decide thus
[2019/08/04 10:30] Sudane Erato: its not nearly as bad as NFS :)
[2019/08/04 10:31] Lilith Ivory: /me smiles
[2019/08/04 10:31] Rosie Gray: it would certainly simplify things
[2019/08/04 10:31] Sudane Erato: will someone propose the naming system?
[2019/08/04 10:31] Sudane Erato: all "P"'s?
[2019/08/04 10:31] Rosie Gray: think Lilith suggested all "C"s
[2019/08/04 10:31] Sudane Erato: or different letters for in-walls and out of walls?
[2019/08/04 10:31] Lilith Ivory: I did :)
[2019/08/04 10:32] Rosie Gray: oh just for the inside the walls
[2019/08/04 10:32] Lilith Ivory: inwall C
[2019/08/04 10:32] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): inwalls can all be C
[2019/08/04 10:32] Sudane Erato: well, in walls are almost all C's now
[2019/08/04 10:32] Sudane Erato: so its only re-naming the S's
[2019/08/04 10:32] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): outside walls E and whatever they are over there L & B?
[2019/08/04 10:32] Rosie Gray: guess so
[2019/08/04 10:32] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): /me shuts up
[2019/08/04 10:32] Lilith Ivory: I think we should leave the outside parcels for now
[2019/08/04 10:32] Rosie Gray: I agree
[2019/08/04 10:33] Lilith Ivory: only joining L and B perhaps
[2019/08/04 10:33] Sudane Erato: we could rename the Ls and B's to be the same
[2019/08/04 10:33] Sudane Erato: yes
[2019/08/04 10:33] Rosie Gray: /me nods
[2019/08/04 10:33] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): Hi Delia
[2019/08/04 10:33] Pip Torok: hi Delia
[2019/08/04 10:33] Sudane Erato: Delia!
[2019/08/04 10:33] Lilith Ivory: Hi Delia :)
[2019/08/04 10:33] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): Hiya, Delia
[2019/08/04 10:34] Lilith Ivory: glad you made it
[2019/08/04 10:34] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): nice walk over?
[2019/08/04 10:34] Sudane Erato: made it! :)
[2019/08/04 10:34] Rosie Gray: Delia, you made it ㋡
[2019/08/04 10:34] Delia Lake: Hi. A whole hour it took me to get here!
[2019/08/04 10:34] Rosie Gray: jeez
[2019/08/04 10:34] Pip Torok: /me crosses fingers
[2019/08/04 10:34] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): I'm going to need to go soon
[2019/08/04 10:34] Rosie Gray: well have a seat and hope to stay!
[2019/08/04 10:34] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): I have an opening at 1pm
[2019/08/04 10:34] Lilith Ivory: when I was on a weak connection it helped me to copy the slurl and past it in my logg in screen
[2019/08/04 10:35] Rosie Gray: Delia we have been discussing the CN covenant
[2019/08/04 10:35] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): Good luck with the alphabet stew ;)
[2019/08/04 10:35] Delia Lake: ok. ty
[2019/08/04 10:35] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): /me bows humbly
[2019/08/04 10:35] Sudane Erato: bye Kyoko! :)
[2019/08/04 10:35] Lilith Ivory: bye Kyoko
[2019/08/04 10:35] Rosie Gray: and renaming all of the inside of the walls parcels to be 'C', for simplicity
[2019/08/04 10:36] Rosie Gray: and the B and L parcels to all fo the same
[2019/08/04 10:36] Lilith Ivory: and the ones at the river R for rural or River
[2019/08/04 10:36] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): tc, Kyoko :)
[2019/08/04 10:36] Rosie Gray: but can someone remind me which parcels are the B ones?
[2019/08/04 10:36] Sudane Erato: Rosie... I think they're the ones against AM
[2019/08/04 10:36] Rosie Gray: oh yes, thanks
[2019/08/04 10:37] Rosie Gray: yeah that was fine tuning a covenant that only made it more confusing
[2019/08/04 10:37] Rosie Gray: lol
[2019/08/04 10:37] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): Looking at the map, for whatever it's wroth, the ones against AM seem to be named "L" something?
[2019/08/04 10:37] Rosie Gray: any more comments from anyone about this?
[2019/08/04 10:37] Sudane Erato: we need a map
[2019/08/04 10:38] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): if the map's out of date than nm
[2019/08/04 10:38] Lilith Ivory: yes!
[2019/08/04 10:38] Rosie Gray: what map are you looking at?
[2019/08/04 10:38] Sudane Erato: i can't find my copy of the old one
[2019/08/04 10:38] Sudane Erato: CN
[2019/08/04 10:38] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): the world map; when you select a parcel in firestorm it will tell you the parcel's name.
[2019/08/04 10:38] Rosie Gray: oh that's true
[2019/08/04 10:38] Rosie Gray: hadn't thought of that before!
[2019/08/04 10:38] Sudane Erato: oh... I meant an old map we created of the sim with parcel names
[2019/08/04 10:39] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): which doesn't help when ppl rename their parcels...so it's loosely reliable
[2019/08/04 10:39] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): I don't have a copy of that, unfortnautely
[2019/08/04 10:39] Sudane Erato: there was one
[2019/08/04 10:39] Lilith Ivory: yes I remember too
[2019/08/04 10:39] Lilith Ivory: no clue where it was
[2019/08/04 10:39] Rosie Gray: I don't have that either, but I remember seeing it
[2019/08/04 10:39] Sudane Erato: one for LA and AM as well
[2019/08/04 10:39] Lilith Ivory: would be neat in the master parcel list
[2019/08/04 10:39] Sudane Erato: I do have the NFS one
[2019/08/04 10:39] Rosie Gray: perhaps that is another project
[2019/08/04 10:40] Sudane Erato: Lil, yes
[2019/08/04 10:40] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): afk a couple, brb
[2019/08/04 10:40] Rosie Gray: so, for now
[2019/08/04 10:40] Delia Lake: I'm only going to do the minimum or I'll crash. I can't open any other program. I can type and read chat and that's about it for me for today
[2019/08/04 10:41] Rosie Gray: /me notices Delia talking
[2019/08/04 10:41] Rosie Gray: ㋡
[2019/08/04 10:41] Rosie Gray: good to know
[2019/08/04 10:41] Rosie Gray: so for now are we all in agreement with the changing all inner city parcels to C
[2019/08/04 10:41] Rosie Gray: and combining the B and L parcels? (but what to name them?)
[2019/08/04 10:41] Delia Lake: yes. as simple as works is good
[2019/08/04 10:42] Sudane Erato: agreed
[2019/08/04 10:42] Lilith Ivory: R?
[2019/08/04 10:42] Rosie Gray: R makes sense
[2019/08/04 10:42] Lilith Ivory: /me smiles
[2019/08/04 10:42] Sudane Erato: sounds good
[2019/08/04 10:42] Rosie Gray: ㋡
[2019/08/04 10:43] Rosie Gray: okay then I'll update the proposed covenant again
[2019/08/04 10:43] Lilith Ivory: and changing the prim parcels into normal parcels?
[2019/08/04 10:43] Rosie Gray: let's leave that off the table for now
[2019/08/04 10:43] Rosie Gray: Kyoko didn't want to pursue it
[2019/08/04 10:43] Lilith Ivory: /me pust it on the floor instead ;-)
[2019/08/04 10:43] Lilith Ivory: *puts
[2019/08/04 10:44] Sudane Erato: hehe
[2019/08/04 10:44] Rosie Gray: lol, okay you want to discuss it?
[2019/08/04 10:44] Lilith Ivory: I am not sure if there is much discussion needed :)
[2019/08/04 10:44] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): Back, fwiw
[2019/08/04 10:44] Lilith Ivory: just set them for public sale and let people have a small garden there
[2019/08/04 10:44] Lilith Ivory: for now
[2019/08/04 10:44] Sudane Erato: let's hold that and discuss it later along with Kyoko's proposal'
[2019/08/04 10:44] Lilith Ivory: ok :)
[2019/08/04 10:45] Tailsworth (Tailsworth Horsley): /me perks his ears at the mention of gardens
[2019/08/04 10:45] Rosie Gray: yes I agree with Sudane
[2019/08/04 10:45] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): :)
[2019/08/04 10:45] Rosie Gray: having a garden wasnt' what she was proposing
[2019/08/04 10:45] Sudane Erato: everyone likes garde4ns :)
[2019/08/04 10:45] Rosie Gray: although I like that idea myself ㋡
[2019/08/04 10:46] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): So, the main difference would be how many of these ppl can buy?
[2019/08/04 10:46] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): What am I missing?
[2019/08/04 10:46] Rosie Gray: the main difference would be that they wouldn't be prim parcels
[2019/08/04 10:46] Lilith Ivory: I do like Kyokos proposal to join some parcels to get bigger ones
[2019/08/04 10:47] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): Right, there's a limit on prim parcels, I thought; whereas the rules around regular parcels is looser
[2019/08/04 10:47] Rosie Gray: it was supposed to be 1 prim parcel per regular parcel allowed
[2019/08/04 10:47] Rosie Gray: but those prim parcels dont' seem to be well used
[2019/08/04 10:47] Sudane Erato: agreed
[2019/08/04 10:47] Rosie Gray: although they are used, sometimes
[2019/08/04 10:48] Lilith Ivory: I needed one for my big Villa before CN got more LI
[2019/08/04 10:48] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): Then I'm for turning them into gardens or whatever is being proposed :)
[2019/08/04 10:48] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): I just wanted to be clear on what is going on
[2019/08/04 10:49] Rosie Gray: as it stands, they would only be accessible by river, or by walking overland
[2019/08/04 10:49] Rosie Gray: there are no paths to them, but we could make a path
[2019/08/04 10:49] Lilith Ivory: /me mumbles something about replacing the walkway thorugh a mud path
[2019/08/04 10:49] Sudane Erato: well, Delia's walkway is above them
[2019/08/04 10:50] Rosie Gray: yes, above
[2019/08/04 10:50] Sudane Erato: there could be steps
[2019/08/04 10:50] Delia Lake: personally, I'd love to have a low prim plot on the river to put out my 30 prim kayak
[2019/08/04 10:51] Lilith Ivory: can´t we just replace Delias walkway thorugh a mud path on the ground?
[2019/08/04 10:51] Sudane Erato: :)
[2019/08/04 10:51] Lilith Ivory: this would solve the access problem easily
[2019/08/04 10:51] Rosie Gray: that's true
[2019/08/04 10:51] Delia Lake: no Lilith but we could easily put a mud path along the river
[2019/08/04 10:51] Sudane Erato: with a mud-boots giver at either end :)
[2019/08/04 10:51] Lilith Ivory: why do we need two paths?
[2019/08/04 10:51] Lilith Ivory: imo that´s a wast of LI and space
[2019/08/04 10:52] Sudane Erato: Delia, I think the parcels go into the river
[2019/08/04 10:52] Delia Lake: yes they do
[2019/08/04 10:52] Rosie Gray: I think it would ruin the riverfront to have a path along it as well
[2019/08/04 10:52] Delia Lake: the walkway is linked under the wall with a bunch of other things
[2019/08/04 10:52] Lilith Ivory: I agree
[2019/08/04 10:52] Sudane Erato: just steps down from the walkway... that would be nice
[2019/08/04 10:53] Rosie Gray: what has been linked can be unlinked
[2019/08/04 10:53] Rosie Gray: it would make it much simpler, don't you think?
[2019/08/04 10:53] Lilith Ivory: as the walkway is so high it needs a lot of steps to go down
[2019/08/04 10:53] Sudane Erato: lol... not so easily! :)
[2019/08/04 10:53] Delia Lake: there are steps on one end and the other end links to the upper path of Stella
[2019/08/04 10:53] Rosie Gray: so if there were steps down on both ends, and a little path along the bottom of the wall
[2019/08/04 10:54] Delia Lake: there already are steps near the bridge
[2019/08/04 10:54] Lilith Ivory: why not just lower the path and have it go up to the upper end of the stella?
[2019/08/04 10:54] Rosie Gray: it would be less prims and make all of the parcels accessible that way
[2019/08/04 10:54] Sudane Erato: i thought we were going to have this discussion at a later time?
[2019/08/04 10:54] Delia Lake: I don't think a path would be less prims than the walkway
[2019/08/04 10:54] Rosie Gray: I think it would be
[2019/08/04 10:54] Lilith Ivory: it really looks like a good idea now to table this
[2019/08/04 10:54] Delia Lake: maybe a couple but not much
[2019/08/04 10:55] Rosie Gray: yes, let's table it for now
[2019/08/04 10:55] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): I second
[2019/08/04 10:55] Lilith Ivory: but a path would look nicer :)
[2019/08/04 10:55] Delia Lake: go take a walk there
[2019/08/04 10:55] Sudane Erato: hehe
[2019/08/04 10:55] Rosie Gray: right
[2019/08/04 10:56] Rosie Gray: aside from that question, anything else for the CN covenant?
[2019/08/04 10:56] Rosie Gray: ㋡
[2019/08/04 10:56] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): YeSaH! but I need a moment to look up the thread
[2019/08/04 10:56] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): one sec, please
[2019/08/04 10:56] Rosie Gray: okay
[2019/08/04 10:57] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): This is a general question, mostly for Lilith
[2019/08/04 10:57] Lilith Ivory: oh?
[2019/08/04 10:57] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): Cathy objected to "clumsy" wording in the covenant, like "building styles to resemble traditional southern European styles."
[2019/08/04 10:57] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): My quesiton is, do you see anything in the covenant as it is that would be vague or questionable from a legal/SC point of view?
[2019/08/04 10:58] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): mostly I'm concerned about "vague"
[2019/08/04 10:58] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): done
[2019/08/04 10:58] Lilith Ivory: in my opinion the SC has nothing to do with writing covenants :)
[2019/08/04 10:58] Rosie Gray: what do you consider vague, Han?
[2019/08/04 10:58] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): Except that they need to be considered in the event of future conflicts where they will be asked to interpret the covenant
[2019/08/04 10:59] Lilith Ivory: if something is vague the exec team will have to deal with it later so I as a citizen thing´k it should be as clear as possible
[2019/08/04 10:59] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): Ok, that answers my question; thank you :)
[2019/08/04 10:59] Lilith Ivory: english is not my first language so I don´t see a problem here
[2019/08/04 10:59] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): I don't have anything else
[2019/08/04 10:59] Rosie Gray: we could have the 'ahistorical' discussion
[2019/08/04 11:00] Sudane Erato: hehe
[2019/08/04 11:00] Rosie Gray: not that I want to
[2019/08/04 11:00] Rosie Gray: lol
[2019/08/04 11:00] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): Rosie, I'm trying to head off bike-shedding tangents, not make more ^^
[2019/08/04 11:00] Sudane Erato: one could easily replace it with non-historical
[2019/08/04 11:00] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): Agreed
[2019/08/04 11:01] Rosie Gray: except that doesn't quite cover the whole meaning
[2019/08/04 11:01] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): both work for me, though; and I'm spectacularly illiterate when it comes to legalese
[2019/08/04 11:01] Lilith Ivory: wouldn´t that exclude the temples?
[2019/08/04 11:01] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): historically non-specific?
[2019/08/04 11:01] Sudane Erato: that would work too
[2019/08/04 11:01] Rosie Gray: the whole reason that 'ashistorical' was included, was because of the remaining ancient Roman buildings
[2019/08/04 11:01] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): "tied to region style, not to a historic era"
[2019/08/04 11:02] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): "not to a specifici era", I meant
[2019/08/04 11:02] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): idk; I like ahistorical well enough so idc :3
[2019/08/04 11:02] Sudane Erato: any of these words could encompass the presence of ancient Roman buildings
[2019/08/04 11:03] Rosie Gray: so can't we leave it as is?
[2019/08/04 11:03] Sudane Erato: sure
[2019/08/04 11:03] Lilith Ivory: I am fine with this
[2019/08/04 11:03] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): that's fine with me
[2019/08/04 11:03] Delia Lake: there are relics of roman buildings throughout rl europe. I don't see a problem
[2019/08/04 11:03] Rosie Gray: it's not about the relics
[2019/08/04 11:04] Pip Torok: /me realises that when a city evolves it blurs to some extent the precision implied by a definition of "style"
[2019/08/04 11:04] Rosie Gray: it's about the ones that were built to be 'new'
[2019/08/04 11:04] Rosie Gray: point taken, Pip
[2019/08/04 11:06] Lilith Ivory: am I crashed ?
[2019/08/04 11:06] Lilith Ivory: all are so quiet lol
[2019/08/04 11:06] Rosie Gray: no you aren't
[2019/08/04 11:06] Pip Torok: no !
[2019/08/04 11:06] Rosie Gray: /me laughs
[2019/08/04 11:06] Sudane Erato: no :)
[2019/08/04 11:07] Drewski Northman: is online.
[2019/08/04 11:07] Rosie Gray: I thought Delia was saying something
[2019/08/04 11:07] Rosie Gray: just waiting
[2019/08/04 11:07] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): I got nothin ....
[2019/08/04 11:07] Rosie Gray: Delia, are you saying something?
[2019/08/04 11:08] Delia Lake: it ts about relics in the sense that everything in the cds is rather new and many og those buildings are textured to look old. In rl new buildings and eras of buildings fit together to give a place many ages incorporate old buildings and give character to a place
[2019/08/04 11:08] Rosie Gray: /me nods
[2019/08/04 11:08] Rosie Gray: might be easier if you break up long sentences
[2019/08/04 11:08] Rosie Gray: so we know you are speaking
[2019/08/04 11:08] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): The focus is mostly on new/modern style builds
[2019/08/04 11:09] Rosie Gray: in CN?
[2019/08/04 11:09] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): Yeah, as in how to incorporate them into the covenant
[2019/08/04 11:09] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): at least that's my understanding?
[2019/08/04 11:09] Rosie Gray: no I don't think so
[2019/08/04 11:09] Rosie Gray: we are talking about 'ahistorical'
[2019/08/04 11:09] Rosie Gray: and the reason that it's there
[2019/08/04 11:09] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): mmmk, never mind.
[2019/08/04 11:10] Rosie Gray: it was to allow for the old buildings that people had, which represented 'new ancient Roman' buildings
[2019/08/04 11:10] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): I fall back to "I got nothin" :3
[2019/08/04 11:10] Rosie Gray: so that we didn't have to try and get them to change them to buildings of a more modern period
[2019/08/04 11:10] Rosie Gray: for instance, the Roman villas of Gaius
[2019/08/04 11:11] Rosie Gray: so making it 'ahistorical' meant those could stay
[2019/08/04 11:11] Lilith Ivory: (and Arias Domus)
[2019/08/04 11:11] Rosie Gray: yes!
[2019/08/04 11:12] Rosie Gray: but otherwise, we have drifted to a more generally mediterranean modern but in an old place feel
[2019/08/04 11:12] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): There's no place like Roma
[2019/08/04 11:12] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): ^^
[2019/08/04 11:13] Rosie Gray: /me waits for Pip
[2019/08/04 11:14] Rosie Gray: please, it's much easier with short sentences
[2019/08/04 11:14] Rosie Gray: just type part of what you want to say
[2019/08/04 11:14] Rosie Gray: and hit return!
[2019/08/04 11:14] Pip Torok: Do you notice that though modern and up2date Romans strain to preserve the old, and have enough sense not to build a skyscraper?
[2019/08/04 11:14] Rosie Gray: yes absolutely :D
[2019/08/04 11:15] Delia Lake: I'm having a problem with the word ahistorical in this context
[2019/08/04 11:15] Rosie Gray: how so?
[2019/08/04 11:15] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): /me raises my hand
[2019/08/04 11:15] Delia Lake: to me ahistorical is without history and clearly Gaius's building has a history and an ancient historical legacy
[2019/08/04 11:16] Delia Lake: that it has been well maintained so to speak doesn't bely it's history
[2019/08/04 11:16] Sudane Erato: Dictionary says ahistorical means lacking historical perspective or context.
[2019/08/04 11:16] Rosie Gray: I don't think that's the point of the 'ahistorical' though
[2019/08/04 11:16] Delia Lake: yes, what Sudane said
[2019/08/04 11:16] Lilith Ivory: sadly I need to go for now
[2019/08/04 11:17] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): tc, Lilith
[2019/08/04 11:17] Lilith Ivory: bye all
[2019/08/04 11:17] Sudane Erato: bye Lil! :)
[2019/08/04 11:17] Rosie Gray: bye Lilith
[2019/08/04 11:17] Delia Lake: bye Lil
[2019/08/04 11:17] Rosie Gray: yes, what Sudane said
[2019/08/04 11:17] Rosie Gray: so it's allowing for those buildings
[2019/08/04 11:17] Pip Torok: and so do I ...
[2019/08/04 11:18] Delia Lake: yes imo we should allow for those buildings
[2019/08/04 11:18] Rosie Gray: and that's what we are doing ㋡
[2019/08/04 11:18] Pip Torok: (agree with Delia btw)
[2019/08/04 11:18] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): fair warning; I'm gonna take off at 11:30
[2019/08/04 11:18] Rosie Gray: okay I think we've really exhausted that, lol
[2019/08/04 11:18] Sudane Erato: :)
[2019/08/04 11:19] Rosie Gray: Sudane, how are you doing with the rebuild of this buidling?
[2019/08/04 11:19] Rosie Gray: bye Pip!
[2019/08/04 11:19] Sudane Erato: I've started messing with it... its in my workshop
[2019/08/04 11:19] Rosie Gray: excellent
[2019/08/04 11:19] Pip Torok: bye Rosie and all besides
[2019/08/04 11:19] Sudane Erato: but I do have a question for the group
[2019/08/04 11:19] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): /me waves bye to Pip
[2019/08/04 11:19] Sudane Erato: we're almost done with FV
[2019/08/04 11:20] Sudane Erato: after that, i need to go back to the nfs densification
[2019/08/04 11:20] Rosie Gray: /me nods
[2019/08/04 11:20] Sudane Erato: should I do this building first?
[2019/08/04 11:20] Rosie Gray: I'd vote yes on that
[2019/08/04 11:20] Delia Lake: bye Pip
[2019/08/04 11:20] Sudane Erato: is that the consensus?
[2019/08/04 11:20] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): Yes, from me
[2019/08/04 11:20] Rosie Gray: anyone else?
[2019/08/04 11:21] Sudane Erato: OK
[2019/08/04 11:21] Delia Lake: what is next on the densification?
[2019/08/04 11:21] Sudane Erato: oh
[2019/08/04 11:21] Sudane Erato: 2005 Kendrastrasse
[2019/08/04 11:21] Pip Torok: (just mooching to hear this point:)
[2019/08/04 11:21] Sudane Erato: across from the Schloss
[2019/08/04 11:21] Rosie Gray: lol, Pip
[2019/08/04 11:21] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): o.o
[2019/08/04 11:22] Sudane Erato: and then hopefully over to Gwynethstrasse
[2019/08/04 11:22] Sudane Erato: if there are any empties
[2019/08/04 11:22] Delia Lake: I certainly want to see this building updated but I'm thinking that the residential urban areas are more important
[2019/08/04 11:22] Sudane Erato: well... i'm open to whatever is de4cided
[2019/08/04 11:22] Rosie Gray: why don't you decide, Sudane?
[2019/08/04 11:22] Rosie Gray: you're doing the work
[2019/08/04 11:23] Rosie Gray: do what you want to do first
[2019/08/04 11:23] Sudane Erato: Lil has one build in FV left, and I have 2
[2019/08/04 11:23] Sudane Erato: so we're lamost done
[2019/08/04 11:23] Rosie Gray: and then we need to move on to deciding about the AM upgrade
[2019/08/04 11:23] Sudane Erato: yes
[2019/08/04 11:24] Sudane Erato: the prims upgrade?
[2019/08/04 11:24] Sudane Erato: or the rebuilding?
[2019/08/04 11:24] Rosie Gray: yes, and the creation of a focal point
[2019/08/04 11:24] Sudane Erato: bye Han!
[2019/08/04 11:24] Rosie Gray: but I think we need to table that for the next meeting
[2019/08/04 11:24] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): I'll be here for 6 more minutes :D
[2019/08/04 11:24] Sudane Erato: yes :)
[2019/08/04 11:24] Rosie Gray: perhaps we should decide on the next meeting time now
[2019/08/04 11:25] Rosie Gray: before we lose any more people
[2019/08/04 11:25] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): I propose two weeks from now, same time
[2019/08/04 11:25] Sudane Erato: i vote for 10 AM instead of earlier
[2019/08/04 11:25] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): I'd like that better
[2019/08/04 11:25] Rosie Gray: That would be August 18, Sunday, at 10 am slt?
[2019/08/04 11:25] Sudane Erato: yes
[2019/08/04 11:25] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): yep
[2019/08/04 11:25] Tailsworth (Tailsworth Horsley): Thank you all for letting me sit in
[2019/08/04 11:26] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): Thank you for attending :)
[2019/08/04 11:26] Rosie Gray: thanks for coming Tailsworth
[2019/08/04 11:26] Rosie Gray: ㋡
[2019/08/04 11:26] Tailsworth (Tailsworth Horsley): We love CDS
[2019/08/04 11:26] Tailsworth (Tailsworth Horsley): We care about it
[2019/08/04 11:26] Lyubov (20180414 Resident): better brush and floss after eating that popcorn!
[2019/08/04 11:26] Sudane Erato: yes!
[2019/08/04 11:26] Rosie Gray: hehe
[2019/08/04 11:26] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): :):):)
[2019/08/04 11:26] Delia Lake: I have a rl event that day so have to check the time. I think I can come but may have to leave early
[2019/08/04 11:26] Tailsworth (Tailsworth Horsley): /me nickers with amusement
[2019/08/04 11:27] Rosie Gray: /me nods
[2019/08/04 11:27] Rosie Gray: we will try to keep the meetings to 1.5 hours!
[2019/08/04 11:27] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): :)
[2019/08/04 11:27] Sudane Erato: hehe... good luck! :)
[2019/08/04 11:27] Rosie Gray: yeah ;)
[2019/08/04 11:27] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): So, it's a date?
[2019/08/04 11:28] Tailsworth: entered chat range (17.92 m).
[2019/08/04 11:28] Rosie Gray: okay, Motion for the next meeting to be August 18, Sunday, at 10 am slt
[2019/08/04 11:28] Tailsworth: entered chat range (19.87 m).
[2019/08/04 11:28] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): seconded
[2019/08/04 11:28] Rosie Gray: vote
[2019/08/04 11:28] Hannah Marie De La Cruz (Han Held): aye
[2019/08/04 11:28] Rosie Gray: aye
[2019/08/04 11:28] Sudane Erato: aye
[2019/08/04 11:28] Delia Lake: aye
[2019/08/04 11:28] Rosie Gray: thank you
[2019/08/04 11:28] Rosie Gray: meeting adjourned!

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