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Dec 15, LUC Trascript

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Members Present: Rosie Gray, Delia Lake, Cathy Sabre, Mizou, Pip Torok, Sudane Erato. Visitors: Emilia Dogostino, Lia Venudo, Lyubov

[10:04] Rosie Gray: now, let's convene the LUC meeting
[10:05] Rosie Gray: :D
[10:05] Lia Venuto (venra.aries): :D
[10:05] Rosie Gray: lol
[10:05] Rosie Gray: and I apologize, but I didn't have time to make an Agenda for this meeting
[10:05] Rosie Gray: but I know we have 2 important items to discuss
[10:06] Rosie Gray: #1 is Alpine Meadow and #2 is Monastery
[10:06] Rosie Gray: is there anything else that we should talk about?
[10:07] Delia Lake: not right now. I'm still working on my list
[10:07] Delia Lake: of public spaces
[10:08] Delia Lake: with landmarks
[10:08] Rosie Gray: okay ㋡
[10:08] Rosie Gray: I understand Lilith has made a drawing for Alpine Meadow, but unfortunately she isn't here to show us
[10:09] Rosie Gray: perhaps we should table that item then
[10:09] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): Hi Emilia
[10:09] Rosie Gray: unless someone else has made a drawing?
[10:09] Rosie Gray: welcome Madam Chancellor ㋡
[10:10] Emilia Dagostino (emilia.avindar): hello Mizou, hi all, pardon my lateness :)
[10:10] Emilia Dagostino (emilia.avindar): Thanks for correcting my clock, Rosie! :)
[10:10] Rosie Gray: lol
[10:10] Pip Torok is online.
[10:11] Rosie Gray: okay, no other drawings for AM at this time
[10:11] Rosie Gray: Motion to table Alpine Meadow discussion until next meeting
[10:12] Rosie Gray: hi Pip ㋡
[10:12] Emilia Dagostino (emilia.avindar): hello Pip :)
[10:12] Rosie Gray: can we have a second?
[10:12] Delia Lake: second
[10:12] Delia Lake: hi Pip
[10:12] Rosie Gray: please vote
[10:12] Rosie Gray: aye
[10:12] Cathy Sabre: Aye
[10:12] Pip Torok: hi everyone
[10:12] Delia Lake: aye
[10:13] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): aye
[10:13] Rosie Gray: motion carried
[10:13] Rosie Gray: okay, Monastery
[10:13] Rosie Gray: just to fill in everyone who may not be aware
[10:14] Rosie Gray: since Arria gave up the Monastery some months back, Ranma and then Han have stepped up to pay for it
[10:14] Rosie Gray: Ranma being the 'landholder'
[10:14] Rosie Gray: but has notified us that she no longer will be able to
[10:14] Rosie Gray: so the question becomes, what do we do about the Monastery?
[10:14] Rosie Gray: it is a large parcel and expensive
[10:15] Rosie Gray: we've had the idea of breaking it up into smaller parcels
[10:15] Rosie Gray: would anyone like to speak to this querstion?
[10:15] Lia Venuto (venra.aries): *raises hand*
[10:15] Rosie Gray: yes, Lia?
[10:15] Lia Venuto (venra.aries): You got three choices...
[10:16] Lia Venuto (venra.aries): 1: Tender it out and see if anyone wants to take on the monastery as a whole
[10:16] Lia Venuto (venra.aries): 2: Set it as a "Public Build" open for donations
[10:16] Lia Venuto (venra.aries): 3: The option you just said
[10:16] Lia Venuto (venra.aries): Option 2 means it cuts into CDS own takings though
[10:17] Lyubov (20180414): raise hand
[10:17] Rosie Gray: thank you Lia
[10:17] Rosie Gray: yes, Lyubov?
[10:17] Lyubov (20180414): thank you Lia. yes, option 1 and 2 have effectively been on offer via the Forum for several months now :(
[10:17] Lyubov (20180414): done
[10:17] Rosie Gray nods
[10:18] Rosie Gray: I personally don't think that expecting donations to sustain it is viable
[10:18] Lia Venuto (venra.aries): Ahhhh... not everyone visit the forum though... send out a notecard
[10:18] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): nods
[10:18] Rosie Gray: true, we could do that Lia
[10:18] Rosie Gray: good suggestion ㋡
[10:18] Lia Venuto (venra.aries): Give it a month... no takers, then its Rosies option...
[10:19] Rosie Gray: anyone else?
[10:19] Lyubov (20180414): yes
[10:19] Cathy Sabre: Could it be broken into smaller portions and keep the structure?
[10:19] Cathy Sabre: Maybe rebuilt with lower prims?
[10:20] Mizou (mizou.vavoom) agrees with Cathy
[10:20] Lyubov (20180414): I am concerned that it is too large a parcel, half of all prims on the region, to let sit for even a month without any revenue while we wait for a savior
[10:20] Pip Torok: also agrees
[10:21] Cathy Sabre: But that doesn't answer my question
[10:21] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): Rosie is gone?
[10:21] Cathy Sabre: yes
[10:21] Lyubov (20180414): she's been having trouble today :(
[10:21] Lia Venuto (venra.aries): :(
[10:21] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): ah ok
[10:21] Delia Lake: Rosie and I both have connection problems today
[10:22] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): How important is the Monastery to CDS?
[10:22] Cathy Sabre: Can we keep the historical "taste" of Monastery, and create more parcels for rent?
[10:22] Lia Venuto (venra.aries): Its a long standing Destination Guide point
[10:22] Pip Torok: we get the very occasional visitor only
[10:22] Cathy Sabre: Maybe parcels that relate to the monastery
[10:22] Delia Lake: that particular monastery is probably not so important. Having some sort of monastery though probably is
[10:22] Lyubov (20180414): and if i may....while monastery is dear to many, i am also concerned about putting too much cds resources into it. at best monastery barrely covers tier at 100% full. Alpine Meadow hass much more revenue potential and should be a primary focus of effort
[10:23] Cathy Sabre: wb rosie
[10:23] Rosie Gray: thanks
[10:23] Rosie Gray: ugh
[10:24] Rosie Gray: I was typing in chat and nothing was coming out
[10:24] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): wb Rosie
[10:24] Delia Lake: I've been thinking what if we had a much smaller plot with an historical artifact monastery sort of. still some of it as an intact building and part of it as a relic building but all of very much lower prims than what is there now. and then have other plots to sell
[10:24] Cathy Sabre: yes
[10:24] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): good idea Delia
[10:24] Rosie Gray: yes we talked about that last meeting
[10:24] Cathy Sabre: We do have the Monastery sim name, that is worth something
[10:25] Rosie Gray: you cannot keep the existing building which fills the entire space, and is very dated anyway
[10:25] Emilia Dagostino (emilia.avindar) nods
[10:25] Rosie Gray: I would like to note that it does bring a consistent string of visitors though
[10:26] Lia Venuto (venra.aries): yeah becausae of the destination guide listing
[10:26] Cathy Sabre: Keep the name, can the build
[10:26] Rosie Gray: and because of what it is
[10:26] Emilia Dagostino (emilia.avindar): i love it out of sentimentality, yes, and the long walk up to it should remain, if possible.
[10:26] Rosie Gray: they are mostly religious visitors
[10:26] Delia Lake: I think we could still have the stream of visitors if we do this right
[10:26] Rosie Gray nods
[10:26] Cathy Sabre: yes
[10:27] Cathy Sabre: Maybe more.
[10:27] Rosie Gray: I like Lia's idea of giving 1 month for people to react to a notice through the CDS group
[10:28] Rosie Gray: it's actually a golden opportunity, for the right person/idea/group
[10:28] Pip Torok: agree as long as we have a Plan B if there are VWEY few vusutirs
[10:29] Rosie Gray: so we need another drawing, on how to split it up
[10:29] Rosie Gray: and be ready to act if nobody comes forward in the next while
[10:30] Delia Lake: probably, because the land is so steep
[10:30] Cathy Sabre: I can help with that, after I finish the LA drawing
[10:30] Rosie Gray: yes and because if we split it up, we won't want to put all the parcels side by side
[10:31] Rosie Gray: they will need to be separated up so as to be similar to the other parcels and befits a rural area
[10:31] Cathy Sabre: Why
[10:31] Cathy Sabre: maybe they would sell if relating to the monastery somehow
[10:31] Rosie Gray: because people don't want to be crammed together in a rural setting
[10:32] Rosie Gray: at least that's my opinion
[10:32] Rosie Gray: :D
[10:32] Delia Lake: I agree, Rosie. We may also need to do a little terraforming after we decide how many parcels
[10:32] Rosie Gray: absolutely
[10:33] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): Could we rebuild a monastery on a smaller parcel?
[10:33] Cathy Sabre: People seem to like the structures that relate to the fishing village. Maybe some would like a place that is near the monastery.
[10:34] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): Church like structure as houses?
[10:34] Rosie Gray: I think that anything more than a small ruins would need to be someone's private initiative on their own parcel
[10:34] Delia Lake: in the history of rl Bavaria and particularly Rothenburg of der Tauber, which is the inspiration for NFS, there was a Benedictine monastery, historically
[10:35] Delia Lake: I'd have to check but I believe they grew grapes and made wine
[10:35] Rosie Gray nods
[10:35] Rosie Gray: that would be appropriate, but it would need a patron
[10:35] Rosie Gray: and that's the very issue we have right now
[10:35] Cathy Sabre: I agree with Rosie. It only needs to be an attraction
[10:36] Rosie Gray notices Emilia is typing
[10:36] Emilia Dagostino (emilia.avindar): although collectable wine might be sold, by the bottle or case, numbered...but that's lots of work, and hard to say we would win customers.
[10:37] Rosie Gray: I think that would be more like roleplay than a practical source of tier
[10:37] Emilia Dagostino (emilia.avindar): contests to create labels..
[10:37] Emilia Dagostino (emilia.avindar): yes, might not be a sound solution, Rosie.
[10:37] Pip Torok: right no only RL commands attention ... :|
[10:37] Rosie Gray: and much administration :)
[10:38] Emilia Dagostino (emilia.avindar): yes, sighs...too much for me.
[10:39] Rosie Gray: Motion that LUC members create drawings on how to subdivide the parcel with any terraforming requirements.
[10:39] Delia Lake: ok. second
[10:39] Rosie Gray: thanks Delia
[10:39] Pip Torok: second
[10:39] Rosie Gray: any more discussion?
[10:40] Pip Torok: the rest is silence ...
[10:40] Rosie Gray: lol, indeed!
[10:40] Rosie Gray: okay, vote please
[10:40] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): second
[10:40] Rosie Gray: okay that's 3 seconders
[10:40] Rosie Gray: hehe
[10:40] Rosie Gray: please vote
[10:40] Rosie Gray: aye
[10:41] Rosie Gray wonders if she's talking to herself again
[10:41] Cathy Sabre: aye
[10:41] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): aye
[10:41] Rosie Gray: Delia, Pip, Lyubov?
[10:41] Pip Torok: aye
[10:42] Rosie Gray: hmmm, okay well motion is carried
[10:42] Lyubov (20180414): not a voter but drawing for the next meeting sound appropriate :)
[10:43] Rosie Gray: ah, sorry forgot you aren't on the LUC
[10:43] Delia Lake: aye, a little late
[10:43] Rosie Gray needs to make a list of LUC members
[10:43] Delia Lake: I need to log off to RL. I have an event to be at in 15 min and it's 10 min drive away
[10:43] Rosie Gray: okay, bye Delia
[10:43] Rosie Gray: thanks for coming
[10:44] Cathy Sabre: bye Delia
[10:44] Delia Lake: bye :)
[10:44] Emilia Dagostino (emilia.avindar): be safe, Delia! :)
[10:44] Delia Lake is offline.
[10:44] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): Take care Delia
[10:44] Pip Torok: driv carefully Delia
[10:44] Rosie Gray: I think we have run out of steam
[10:45] Rosie Gray: and without some of our members here we can't really do anything
[10:45] Rosie Gray: we need to set a next meeting time
[10:45] Cathy Sabre: Shall we decide on a next meeting?
[10:45] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): end January?
[10:46] Rosie Gray: I would rather see us meet before then
[10:46] Cathy Sabre: We have an event on the 18th
[10:46] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): The drawings ned to be ready, yes?
[10:46] Rosie Gray: yes
[10:46] Rosie Gray: an event on the 18th?
[10:46] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): middLE OF jANUARY?
[10:46] Cathy Sabre: yes
[10:46] Lyubov (20180414): if i may....we're waiting for MO drawings by next meeting...want to send a CDS Group notice about renting the MO parcel, and probably have less than a month left of tier on the current MO parcel....
[10:47] Rosie Gray: how about January 12?
[10:47] Rosie Gray: yes, exactly Lyubov
[10:47] Cathy Sabre: I like the 12th.
[10:47] Rosie Gray: ooo
[10:48] Rosie Gray: sorry just checked my calendar and I can't do the 12
[10:48] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): SORRY CAPS
[10:48] Sudane Erato is online.
[10:48] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): sorry
[10:48] Rosie Gray: how is the 11th instead?
[10:48] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): better for me
[10:48] Cathy Sabre: k
[10:48] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): saturdays
[10:48] Rosie Gray: Cathy?
[10:48] Cathy Sabre: yes
[10:49] Rosie Gray: and we can only guess for Delia and Sudane
[10:49] Cathy Sabre: can we approve last meetings minutes
[10:49] Rosie Gray: but we do know that Sudane can only do weekends
[10:49] Rosie Gray: umm, I don't think we have a quorum
[10:49] Cathy Sabre: k
[10:50] Cathy Sabre: They are posted, but approval would be nice
[10:50] Rosie Gray: oh! here comes Sudane
[10:50] Rosie Gray: hi Sudane
[10:51] Cathy Sabre: Hello, Sudane
[10:51] Emilia Dagostino (emilia.avindar): hi Sudane :)
[10:51] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): Hi Sudane
[10:51] Sudane Erato: hi hi
[10:51] Sudane Erato: sorry i'm so late :(
[10:51] Rosie Gray: we have appointed you and Delia to LUC again this term
[10:51] Rosie Gray: and Delia had to leave
[10:51] Sudane Erato: ok :)
[10:51] Rosie Gray: we are just talking about next meeting
[10:51] Rosie Gray: and Cathy wants us to approve her Minutes of the last meeting
[10:52] Rosie Gray:
[10:52] Second Life: Items successfully shared.
[10:52] Rosie Gray: Motion to accept the previous meeting Minutes as presented.
[10:53] Cathy Sabre: second
[10:53] Rosie Gray: any discussion?
[10:53] Emilia Dagostino (emilia.avindar) raises hand
[10:53] Rosie Gray: yes Emilia?
[10:54] Emilia Dagostino (emilia.avindar): I don't know if mention of an EM issue is appropriate here, but I've just received a very brief resignation from EM by Kyoko.
[10:54] Emilia Dagostino (emilia.avindar): done.
[10:54] Rosie Gray: umm
[10:54] Rosie Gray: thank you Emilia, that's not LUC business
[10:55] Rosie Gray: but it's good to know
[10:55] Emilia Dagostino (emilia.avindar): ok, forgive me.
[10:55] Rosie Gray: okay let's vote on the Minutes please
[10:55] Cathy Sabre: aye
[10:55] Rosie Gray: aye
[10:55] Sudane Erato: aye
[10:55] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): aye
[10:55] Pip Torok: aye
[10:55] Rosie Gray: thank you, motion carried
[10:56] Cathy Sabre: Did we select officers for this term, ro just keeping the same ones?
[10:56] Rosie Gray: oh I guess we didn't
[10:56] Rosie Gray: hard when we don't have everyone here
[10:56] Cathy Sabre: I move we just carry one.
[10:57] Pip Torok: I believe not
[10:57] Cathy Sabre: on
[10:57] Cathy Sabre: We have a quorum, shouldn't we approve officers
[10:58] Cathy Sabre: ?
[10:58] Rosie Gray: I am okay with staying as chair and you are okay with staying as scribe?
[10:58] Pip Torok: may as well ...
[10:58] Cathy Sabre: yes
[10:58] Rosie Gray: would you like to make a motionm, Cathy?
[10:59] Cathy Sabre: I move that we retain the same Chair and Scribe as last term
[10:59] Sudane Erato: second
[10:59] Cathy Sabre: That is Rosie Gray as chair, and Cathy Sabre as Scroibe
[10:59] Rosie Gray: thank you Cathy and Sudane
[10:59] Rosie Gray: please vote
[10:59] Sudane Erato: aye
[10:59] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): aye
[10:59] Cathy Sabre: aye
[10:59] Rosie Gray: aye
[11:00] Pip Torok: aye
[11:00] Rosie Gray: thank you
[11:00] Rosie Gray: motion carried
[11:00] Rosie Gray: and thanks for pointing that out Cathy
[11:00] Rosie Gray: again, I apologize for not having a proper Agenda prepared
[11:01] Rosie Gray: can we talk about the next meeting now? we have January 11th mentioned?
[11:01] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): yes
[11:01] Pip Torok: agree
[11:01] Rosie Gray: would that work for you, Sudane?
[11:01] Sudane Erato: checking
[11:02] Sudane Erato: 11th is a Sat?
[11:02] Rosie Gray: yes
[11:02] Sudane Erato: 10 AM on the 11th should work... not earlier
[11:02] Rosie Gray: that works for me
[11:02] Sudane Erato: but i think it will work
[11:02] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): good for me too
[11:03] Rosie Gray: Cathy and Pip?
[11:03] Cathy Sabre: yes, of course
[11:03] Second Life: Items successfully shared.
[11:03] Pip Torok: I think so and will do my best
[11:03] Rosie Gray: great!
[11:04] Rosie Gray: Motion for next meeting to be January 11th, 10 am slt
[11:04] Sudane Erato: second
[11:04] Rosie Gray: vote
[11:04] Rosie Gray: aye
[11:04] Mizou (mizou.vavoom): aye
[11:04] Pip Torok: aye
[11:04] Cathy Sabre: aye
[11:04] Rosie Gray: motion carried
[11:05] Rosie Gray: would anyone like to have a final say about anything?
[11:05] Rosie Gray: please raise your hand
[11:05] Rosie Gray: including guests ㋡
[11:05] Rosie Gray: seeing no hands, I call this meeting adjourned
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