Communications Commission Meeting 4, Transcript 1 of 2

[Kaseido_Quandry]

[2010/08/28 11:07] Kaseido Quandry: ok, I'm calling us to order and starting the transcript
[2010/08/28 11:07] Pip Torok: the type of seat that doesnt know how to orientate you when you try to sit down ....
[2010/08/28 11:07] Arria Perreault: right
[2010/08/28 11:07] Lilith Ivory: hi Sonja
[2010/08/28 11:08] Kaseido Quandry: OK, what I'm hoping to accomplish today is to have a discussion with Sonja about what she and Anna have accomplished,
[2010/08/28 11:08] Arria Perreault: where is Anna?
[2010/08/28 11:08] Kaseido Quandry: to discuss whether and what might need to be done to fully implement the law we passed,
[2010/08/28 11:08] Kaseido Quandry: and to discuss how we can move forward
[2010/08/28 11:09] Kaseido Quandry: As I'd said, she's unable to attend, and I've offered to host a meeting at her convenience
[2010/08/28 11:09] Kaseido Quandry: we scheduled this one to accommodate Sonja
[2010/08/28 11:09] Sonja Strom: at your request
[2010/08/28 11:09] Kaseido Quandry: At the request of the RA, yes.
[2010/08/28 11:10] Arria Perreault: but Anna is the person who makes the work
[2010/08/28 11:10] Kaseido Quandry: Sonja, would you like to start us off with a report?
[2010/08/28 11:10] Sonja Strom: What would you like for me to report on?
[2010/08/28 11:10] Kaseido Quandry: This is the Communications Commission. Some topics naturally suggest themselves.
[2010/08/28 11:11] Kaseido Quandry: Would you care to report on implementation of the Public Information Act to date?
[2010/08/28 11:11] Arria Perreault: It would more interesting to hear Anna telling us what she made
[2010/08/28 11:11] Sonja Strom: Well, as I told the RA,
[2010/08/28 11:11] Arria Perreault: she made a lot of things in-world
[2010/08/28 11:11] Kaseido Quandry: Well, Arria, you don't have to attend the less interesting meeting :p
[2010/08/28 11:11] Arria Perreault: I was sure the PIO would be here
[2010/08/28 11:11] Sonja Strom: we have made it so all members of the RA are able to post and make changes to the calendar
[2010/08/28 11:12] Sonja Strom: we have made it so every CDS citizen can send notices as well as group IMs in the C.D.S. group
[2010/08/28 11:12] Kaseido Quandry: has that been announced to the citizens yet?
[2010/08/28 11:12] Sonja Strom: in the RA, yes
[2010/08/28 11:13] Sonja Strom: and in the Forum
[2010/08/28 11:13] Kaseido Quandry: Thank you, I'll get a notice out.
[2010/08/28 11:13] Sonja Strom: we are working on an announcement about policies for how to send notices
[2010/08/28 11:13] Arria Perreault: so everyone can post ?
[2010/08/28 11:13] Sonja Strom: yes
[2010/08/28 11:13] Sonja Strom: well, all citizens
[2010/08/28 11:14] Arria Perreault: I have seen that Tor has sent two notices that are not event or important communications. it was about machinima. Is it mean so?
[2010/08/28 11:14] Kaseido Quandry: Yes.
[2010/08/28 11:14] Sonja Strom: in the RA meeting there were some people who made complaints about how we had gone about giving posting rights to citizens,
[2010/08/28 11:14] Arria Perreault: we can post about anything now?
[2010/08/28 11:14] Kaseido Quandry: anything of general interest to the community, yes
[2010/08/28 11:14] Sonja Strom: so I redid, that, and now that system is just how those members of the RA wanted it to be
[2010/08/28 11:15] Pip Torok: its a moot point whether a winning machinima featuring NFS is an event ...
[2010/08/28 11:15] Callipygian Christensen: I believe it was a machinima filmed in NFS..so quite relevant..Ihope any policy will allow for things like that
[2010/08/28 11:15] Arria Perreault: why do we need a PIO ?
[2010/08/28 11:15] Kaseido Quandry: Arria, you were the one who insisted on a clear distinction between governemnet communications and general community communiactions
[2010/08/28 11:15] Sonja Strom: every citizen has the ability to make a post, which was described in the law about that passed by the RA recently
[2010/08/28 11:15] Kaseido Quandry: which I fully support, btw
[2010/08/28 11:16] Sonja Strom: Anna is working on some projects,
[2010/08/28 11:16] Arria Perreault: so group notices are not official anymore?
[2010/08/28 11:16] Sonja Strom: as Public Information Officer,
[2010/08/28 11:16] Kaseido Quandry: not per se, no, they're *group* notices, not government notices
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[2010/08/28 11:17] Arria Perreault: she made a kiosk in the Monastery sim
[2010/08/28 11:17] Arria Perreault: I thank her for that
[2010/08/28 11:17] Sonja Strom:
[2010/08/28 11:17] Kaseido Quandry: excellent!
[2010/08/28 11:17] Arria Perreault: it's very nice
[2010/08/28 11:17] Arria Perreault: there is one here too
[2010/08/28 11:17] Arria Perreault: I have asked her to add the Villa of Mysteries
[2010/08/28 11:17] Pip Torok: can the fact of the kiosk be made public?
[2010/08/28 11:18] Sonja Strom: Pip, what do you mean?
[2010/08/28 11:18] Arria Perreault: these kiosks are very well done
[2010/08/28 11:18] Kaseido Quandry: Sonja, it's not public if we don't tell people about it
[2010/08/28 11:18] Sonja Strom: So, you want us to tell people in some way?
[2010/08/28 11:18] Arria Perreault: people who are in-world and walk a bit have seen that
[2010/08/28 11:18] Kaseido Quandry: Um, yes
[2010/08/28 11:18] Pip Torok: well a kiosk exists in the Monastery but I did not know about it before and I suspect that few people DO know about it
[2010/08/28 11:18] Sonja Strom: in what way?
[2010/08/28 11:19] Arria Perreault: maybe better to wait she is finished
[2010/08/28 11:19] Arria Perreault: when all kiosks are finished, we can make a communication
[2010/08/28 11:19] Sonja Strom: yes, I think it would be good to wait until the kiosks are all working correctly
[2010/08/28 11:19] Arria Perreault: I agree
[2010/08/28 11:19] Pip Torok: ah ... understood .... "work in hand"
[2010/08/28 11:19] Arria Perreault: yes
[2010/08/28 11:19] Kaseido Quandry: there are problems with them, or are they just not all in place yet?
[2010/08/28 11:20] Sonja Strom: Anna can always send a group notice or make a post in the Forum about her project.
[2010/08/28 11:20] Sonja Strom: Kaseido, I don't know the answer to that. Maybe we can ask her.
[2010/08/28 11:20] Arria Perreault: I don't think there is a problem
[2010/08/28 11:20] Arria Perreault: it's just a lot of work
[2010/08/28 11:20] Sonja Strom: She is inworld, yes
[2010/08/28 11:20] Pip Torok: I don't see one either
[2010/08/28 11:20] Arria Perreault: especially the map with all TP points
[2010/08/28 11:20] Sonja Strom: maybe we can invite her to this meeting
[2010/08/28 11:21] Arria Perreault: yes
[2010/08/28 11:21] Kaseido Quandry: I did, and she IM'd to say she had a conflict at this time
[2010/08/28 11:21] Pip Torok: btw the map with he TP points in CN ... whose project is that?
[2010/08/28 11:21] Sonja Strom: ah, ok
[2010/08/28 11:21] Arria Perreault: Anna, the PIO
[2010/08/28 11:21] Pip Torok: I see
[2010/08/28 11:21] Arria Perreault: she made one in CN, LA, Mon
[2010/08/28 11:21] Sonja Strom: I like them
[2010/08/28 11:21] Arria Perreault: I have seen these ones
[2010/08/28 11:22] Pip Torok: where is the LA one, does anyone know?
[2010/08/28 11:22] Arria Perreault: I am sure she is working on other sims too
[2010/08/28 11:22] Arria Perreault: near the temple, on harbour
[2010/08/28 11:22] Arria Perreault: very nice
[2010/08/28 11:22] Pip Torok: thank you
[2010/08/28 11:22] Lilith Ivory: I´m not happy with the one inCN btw. it leads people out instead to the atractions
[2010/08/28 11:22] Pip Torok: it can always be improved, lilith!
[2010/08/28 11:22] Arria Perreault: yes
[2010/08/28 11:22] Kaseido Quandry: hi Anna!
[2010/08/28 11:22] Sonja Strom: hi Anna!
[2010/08/28 11:23] Arria Perreault: Hi Anna
[2010/08/28 11:23] Lilith Ivory: that´s why I MENTIONED IT
[2010/08/28 11:23] Sonja Strom: welcome
[2010/08/28 11:23] Pip Torok: ah!! hi Anna!
[2010/08/28 11:23] Lilith Ivory: sorry for caps
[2010/08/28 11:23] Lilith Ivory: hi Anna
[2010/08/28 11:23] Sonja Strom: hahaa
[2010/08/28 11:23] Anna Toussaint: hi, everyone
[2010/08/28 11:23] Arria Perreault: we were talking about your great kiosks
[2010/08/28 11:23] Pip Torok: great-looking too btw, Anna
[2010/08/28 11:23] Anna Toussaint: I still have some work to do, on them ...
[2010/08/28 11:24] Arria Perreault: I have said I thank you for the kiosk in the Monastery sim
[2010/08/28 11:24] Arria Perreault: it's very nice
[2010/08/28 11:24] Anna Toussaint: I need to put out the "about CDS" notecards, which I've updated
[2010/08/28 11:24] Anna Toussaint: no problem
[2010/08/28 11:24] Sonja Strom: they are great
[2010/08/28 11:24] Anna Toussaint: thanks
[2010/08/28 11:24] Arria Perreault: and the map is very usefull
[2010/08/28 11:24] Sonja Strom: yes, it is!
[2010/08/28 11:24] Arria Perreault: is it possible to add the Villa of Mysteries on the LA map?
[2010/08/28 11:24] Anna Toussaint: If there's any other teleport points you want on the map, just let me know
[2010/08/28 11:25] Anna Toussaint: of course, Arria ... I'll do it
[2010/08/28 11:25] Arria Perreault:
[2010/08/28 11:25] Callipygian Christensen: I don't have a lot of time today so may I ask what is left to implement from the new PI act and what the status is?
[2010/08/28 11:25] Kaseido Quandry: Good question, Calli
[2010/08/28 11:25] Kaseido Quandry: As I understand it, the major open point is account passwords
[2010/08/28 11:26] Sonja Strom: maybe we could go over the act here, and review everything
[2010/08/28 11:26] Kaseido Quandry: sure!
[2010/08/28 11:26] Arria Perreault: we could ask Ann which kiosks she has still to make before to take an other point
[2010/08/28 11:26] Kaseido Quandry: I'll pull up a link
[2010/08/28 11:26] Anna Toussaint: I want to make a Kiosk that contains the "About CDS" card
[2010/08/28 11:26] Kaseido Quandry: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Colonia%20Nova/84/166/36
[2010/08/28 11:26] Kaseido Quandry: woops, sorry
[2010/08/28 11:26] Kaseido Quandry: http://portal.slcds.info/index.php?id=405
[2010/08/28 11:27] Anna Toussaint: right now, that's not in the updated infocenters
[2010/08/28 11:27] Arria Perreault: I did not went to AM and NFS
[2010/08/28 11:27] Anna Toussaint: Everything in the Sims is updated, plus Anzere
[2010/08/28 11:27] Anna Toussaint: I would like to put a sticky in the forum for land sales
[2010/08/28 11:28] Anna Toussaint: it would simplify things immensely
[2010/08/28 11:28] Anna Toussaint: but Gwyn says she doesn't have the authority
[2010/08/28 11:28] Arria Perreault: a sticky?
[2010/08/28 11:28] Anna Toussaint: in a forum, a sticky is a post that remains on the top of the stack and can be periodically updated
[2010/08/28 11:29] Anna Toussaint: the "how to register" posts are stickys
[2010/08/28 11:29] Sonja Strom: ah, that's a really good idea!
[2010/08/28 11:29] Arria Perreault: It would better to make a spreadsheet like Sudane does
[2010/08/28 11:29] Kaseido Quandry: Anna, that is a great idea
[2010/08/28 11:29] Anna Toussaint: actually, it's Rose's idea ,,,
[2010/08/28 11:29] Arria Perreault: for the lists of parcels
[2010/08/28 11:29] Sonja Strom: thanks Rose!
[2010/08/28 11:29] Kaseido Quandry: that'd be hugely helpful
[2010/08/28 11:29] Arria Perreault: so you can update at anytime
[2010/08/28 11:29] Anna Toussaint: we were talking at some function, somewhere
[2010/08/28 11:30] Sonja Strom: I think a link to a spreadsheet would be really good.
[2010/08/28 11:30] Callipygian Christensen: Arria, the ides of a sticky is more for people who might be looking in the forums as they consider coming to CDS as residents..having land sale info easily accessible makes sense
[2010/08/28 11:30] Sonja Strom: It could be in the sticky
[2010/08/28 11:30] Arria Perreault: and all kioks are updated at the same time everywhere
[2010/08/28 11:30] Anna Toussaint: well, we can put a url for the sticky in the infocenters
[2010/08/28 11:30] Arria Perreault: yes, Calli. we can do both
[2010/08/28 11:30] Sonja Strom: Calli, we they can be both the same process
[2010/08/28 11:30] Anna Toussaint: the infocenters then would not go out of date
[2010/08/28 11:30] Arria Perreault: I don't find very practical to change a notecard in 5 kiosk
[2010/08/28 11:31] Callipygian Christensen nods
[2010/08/28 11:31] Anna Toussaint: no ... that's what i've been doing, though
[2010/08/28 11:31] Sonja Strom: yes, that is a lot to keep track of
[2010/08/28 11:31] Sonja Strom: right
[2010/08/28 11:31] Kaseido Quandry: OK, if we're good on the kiosks, let's go through the Act, as Sonja suggested
[2010/08/28 11:32] Callipygian Christensen: There are linked kiosk systems around Anna, might be worth looking at
[2010/08/28 11:32] Sonja Strom: for a., there is a Team
[2010/08/28 11:32] Kaseido Quandry: a) Public Affairs Team with written job descriptions
[2010/08/28 11:32] Anna Toussaint: I'll check it out, Calli
[2010/08/28 11:32] Arria Perreault: across different sims, Calli?
[2010/08/28 11:32] Sonja Strom: there is a description, although it is only fairly basic
[2010/08/28 11:32] Callipygian Christensen: grid wide..Pathfinders and the ed people used to have them
[2010/08/28 11:32] Sonja Strom: we can work on writing the descriptions in more detail
[2010/08/28 11:32] Callipygian Christensen will tlak to Anna later about it
[2010/08/28 11:33] Kaseido Quandry: Do you need/can you use more volunteers, Sonja and Anna?
[2010/08/28 11:33] Anna Toussaint: thanks, Calli
[2010/08/28 11:33] Sonja Strom: for b., this is being done
[2010/08/28 11:33] Kaseido Quandry: wait
[2010/08/28 11:33] Sonja Strom: as we were just talking about
[2010/08/28 11:33] Kaseido Quandry: where are the basic descriptions, and who are the people?
[2010/08/28 11:33] Sonja Strom: I will find the descriptions for you
[2010/08/28 11:33] Arria Perreault: descriptions of CDS's sims?
[2010/08/28 11:34] Sonja Strom: I talked about them in my Chancellor Report to the RA
[2010/08/28 11:34] Kaseido Quandry: no, of the Public Affairs Team names and job descriptions, Arria
[2010/08/28 11:34] Kaseido Quandry: Sonja, a general observation - it's not "public information" unless it's broadly communicated and readily available
[2010/08/28 11:35] Sonja Strom: Arria, now we are talking about the new law, passed by the RA
[2010/08/28 11:35] Arria Perreault: I know
[2010/08/28 11:35] Sonja Strom: item a. says duties should be described in writing
[2010/08/28 11:36] Sonja Strom: and made available
[2010/08/28 11:36] Kaseido Quandry: so we're waiting for Sonja to find them
[2010/08/28 11:37] Sonja Strom: here is the description that is available so far: http://portal.slcds.info/index.php?id=executive
[2010/08/28 11:37] Kaseido Quandry: OK, so Anna is the entire staff, yes?
[2010/08/28 11:37] Anna Toussaint: Holy, sh**!
[2010/08/28 11:37] Sonja Strom: at the moment, yes
[2010/08/28 11:37] Anna Toussaint: yes ... I DO need help ....
[2010/08/28 11:37] Sonja Strom: I am trying to get her some help
[2010/08/28 11:38] Sonja Strom: if you guys would help her, that would be great!
[2010/08/28 11:38] Anna Toussaint:
[2010/08/28 11:38] Kaseido Quandry: Great, how can we help get you volunteers?
[2010/08/28 11:38] Kaseido Quandry: Are there particular skill sets you're looking for,
[2010/08/28 11:38] Kaseido Quandry: or particualr jobs you'd like to hand off?
[2010/08/28 11:38] Anna Toussaint: I'd have to think ...
[2010/08/28 11:39] Sonja Strom: The portal is being updated by Arria as a volunteer.
[2010/08/28 11:39] Anna Toussaint: it needs to be a lot more specific than that, the Public Info Act is a good place to start
[2010/08/28 11:39] Anna Toussaint: good! thanks, Arria!
[2010/08/28 11:39] Sonja Strom: I have asked if she would help with this, and she said yes.
[2010/08/28 11:39] Kaseido Quandry: OK, if you'd like to get me a list sometime, I can use the Commission to help recrit people
[2010/08/28 11:39] Kaseido Quandry: *recruit
[2010/08/28 11:39] Sonja Strom: Aliasi is the Content Archivist.
[2010/08/28 11:39] Arria Perreault: you're welcome, Anna
[2010/08/28 11:39] Anna Toussaint: Tor has helped, some
[2010/08/28 11:39] Sonja Strom: Cindy is the RA Archivist.
[2010/08/28 11:40] Kaseido Quandry: OK, this is good - we can add that to that web page
[2010/08/28 11:40] Sonja Strom: yes, that would be good to do
[2010/08/28 11:40] Sonja Strom: Anna is getting help from someone who is interested in the CDS, but so far as I know is not a citizen,
[2010/08/28 11:41] Sonja Strom: so we have not given her an official position.
[2010/08/28 11:41] Anna Toussaint: she helps some ...
[2010/08/28 11:41] Sonja Strom: Naturally I have been encouraging her to become a citizen
[2010/08/28 11:41] Arria Perreault: there are some plots available
[2010/08/28 11:41] Anna Toussaint: but not really ...
[2010/08/28 11:41] Kaseido Quandry: this is all good, thank you
[2010/08/28 11:41] Anna Toussaint: she's a friend
[2010/08/28 11:41] Callipygian Christensen: that rmeinds me..Ihave a question about the Content Archivist thing to ask after the main purpose of the meeting is dealt with
[2010/08/28 11:41] Kaseido Quandry: OK. Let's go on to b)
[2010/08/28 11:42] Kaseido Quandry: it sounds like we're in very good shape there?
[2010/08/28 11:43] Kaseido Quandry: mmkay, seeing no discussion, let's go on to c)
[2010/08/28 11:43] Arria Perreault: which Archivist (there are 2)
[2010/08/28 11:43] Kaseido Quandry: On c), we've had a good discussion of the kiosks
[2010/08/28 11:43] Sonja Strom: yes Arria, there is a Content Archivist, and an RA Archivist
[2010/08/28 11:43] Kaseido Quandry: I'd like to raise the issue of an info packet
[2010/08/28 11:44] Kaseido Quandry: that we could all hand out to anyone interested
[2010/08/28 11:44] Kaseido Quandry: does anyone have thoughts on that?
[2010/08/28 11:44] Anna Toussaint: sure ... what format, Kas?
[2010/08/28 11:44] Anna Toussaint: we can develop a folder, that you "buy" for 0 Lindens
[2010/08/28 11:44] Kaseido Quandry: I'm thinking something inworld, a notecard or folder of notecards and LMs
[2010/08/28 11:44] Sonja Strom: I have one from some time ago, but now it is quite outdated
[2010/08/28 11:44] Kaseido Quandry: yep, that's good
[2010/08/28 11:45] Kaseido Quandry: or, if I run into someone who's interested in CDS, I can give them a folder of "basics"
[2010/08/28 11:45] Anna Toussaint: there's something like that at Anzere
[2010/08/28 11:45] Sonja Strom: it talks about our new upcoming sim Alpine Meadows, and things like that
[2010/08/28 11:45] Callipygian Christensen: Something to keep in mind about a packet is that it becomes outdated..and if citizens have taken packs to had out..old and incorrect info can be curculating for a long time
[2010/08/28 11:45] Arria Perreault: I have a question
[2010/08/28 11:45] Anna Toussaint: I started updateing it the other day
[2010/08/28 11:45] Callipygian Christensen: to'to hand out'
[2010/08/28 11:45] Kaseido Quandry: that's a fair point, Calli
[2010/08/28 11:45] Anna Toussaint: It's got a list of freebies
[2010/08/28 11:45] Anna Toussaint: yes ... I'd like a central point, so we could update it only once
[2010/08/28 11:45] Sonja Strom: that would be good
[2010/08/28 11:46] Arria Perreault: can the citizen have CDS kiosks in their privates parcels if they have events?
[2010/08/28 11:46] Anna Toussaint: or a web-page that I could update and we can just serve a url
[2010/08/28 11:46] Kaseido Quandry: that sounds fine
[2010/08/28 11:46] Arria Perreault: possible, Anna
[2010/08/28 11:46] Arria Perreault: just tell me
[2010/08/28 11:46] Kaseido Quandry: so, just a notecard with the URL and a couple LMs?
[2010/08/28 11:46] Anna Toussaint: How hard is it to update the web site
[2010/08/28 11:46] Anna Toussaint: ?
[2010/08/28 11:46] Arria Perreault: or a script with links