31 August 2013 RA Meeting Transcript

[Bagheera]

[08:19:07] Shep (shep.titian): OK .. Welcome all ..
[08:19:19] Birch (moonrise.azalee) waves
[08:19:21] Shep (shep.titian): Calling this meeting to order
[08:20:23] Shep (shep.titian): OIf we could glance through the agenda and approve
[08:21:01] Ranma Tardis: move we accept the agenda
[08:21:01] Shep (shep.titian): For those new to my aquaintance .. I apologise for typos
[08:21:31] Birch (moonrise.azalee): second
[08:21:46] Shep (shep.titian): Vote aye
[08:21:48] Ranma Tardis: aye
[08:21:50] Birch (moonrise.azalee): aye
[08:22:40] Shep (shep.titian): Do we have anyone with specific reason for speaking today?
[08:23:00] Shep (shep.titian): Tor I assume a report?
[08:23:18] Tor Karlsvalt: oh sure. A short one.
[08:23:29] Tor Karlsvalt: Now?
[08:23:46] Shep (shep.titian): No was waiting for agreement lol
[08:24:03] Shep (shep.titian): Moving on
[08:24:11] Tor Karlsvalt: Sure, I can give you a report.
[08:24:18] Shep (shep.titian): CVitizens concerns
[08:24:43] Shep (shep.titian): Ok no concerns
[08:24:52] Rosie Gray: ?
[08:25:03] Shep (shep.titian): RA .. any concerns?
[08:25:20] Ranma Tardis: not this meeting
[08:25:26] Birch (moonrise.azalee): not today
[08:25:33] Rosie Gray raises hand
[08:25:33] Shep (shep.titian): Excellent
[08:25:44] Shep (shep.titian): Ok .. next
[08:25:51] Shep (shep.titian): Old business
[08:26:21] Delia Lake: yes if tier increase is in the agenda. have concerns
[08:26:45] Soro Dagostino: As do I.
[08:26:58] Ranma Tardis: raises hand
[08:27:29] Shep (shep.titian): All I have here is a confirmation that despite allowing Nolligan a 7 day vote .. the increase in tier remained defeated as Nolligan did'nt vote .. leaving a majority impossible
[08:27:52] Shep (shep.titian): Ranma first
[08:28:15] Rosie Gray whispers: hi Widget
[08:28:19] Shep (shep.titian): Hi Widget
[08:28:23] Ranma Tardis: correct me if I am wrong it was defeated and the supporters accept the outcome
[08:28:26] Widget Whiteberry: shhhh, sorry I'm late
[08:28:46] Lilith Ivory: Hi Widget
[08:28:59] Tor Karlsvalt: Hi Widget
[08:29:23] Shep (shep.titian): The last we were officially qorate You and Tan persuaded me to allow Nolligan a 7 day vote
[08:29:48] Shep (shep.titian): This is the first official meeting to report on it
[08:29:57] Ranma Tardis: nods
[08:30:20] Shep (shep.titian): Cool
[08:30:51] Shep (shep.titian): from the floor Delia?
[08:31:28] Delia Lake: if it remains defeated im fine
[08:32:53] Shep (shep.titian): )) yes it does .. I was just making sure the defeat was official
[08:33:03] Shep (shep.titian): Soro?
[08:33:11] Rosie Gray: ··•°•··..? Applauds! ? ..··•°•··..
[08:33:21] Birch (moonrise.azalee) grins
[08:33:31] Soro Dagostino: I am of the same opinion as Delisa
[08:33:35] Shep (shep.titian): LOL thank you Rosie
[08:33:39] Soro Dagostino: Delia*
[08:33:46] Rosie Gray:
[08:35:03] Shep (shep.titian): I can't see Soro typing So Rosie
[08:35:12] Shep (shep.titian): yopu raised a hand
[08:35:49] Rosie Gray: oh sorry raised my hand earlier because I thought of a citizen concern
[08:36:04] Rosie Gray: am I too late?
[08:36:13] Shep (shep.titian): Oh I'm sorry I missed that
[08:36:31] Rosie Gray: well I was a bit late
[08:36:37] Rosie Gray: may I speak to it now?
[08:36:39] Shep (shep.titian): No I'll allow as this seems finished
[08:36:50] Rosie Gray: okay thanks
[08:37:17] Rosie Gray: I 've noticed that there seems to be a few citizens leaving boxes of stuff for sale
[08:37:27] Rosie Gray: floating around outside of buildings
[08:37:58] Rosie Gray: which isn't appropriate, so would like a notice sent to them about it
[08:38:42] Shep (shep.titian): Maybe a Land Manager could send a note asking for them to be taken indoors
[08:38:43] Rosie Gray: that's about it
[08:39:19] Rosie Gray: I thought perhaps it could be reiterated by RA that it is against covenants
[08:40:02] Shep (shep.titian): I think an Estate Manager .. then they can move them if we have people who won't move them
[08:40:18] Rosie Gray: and I'm not referring to signs that are meant to be there... just either being careless with prims, or deliberately leaving them there
[08:40:31] Noma Falta is offline.
[08:40:39] Pip Torok writes himself a reminder not to leave opened boxes hanging round outside
[08:40:58] Rosie Gray: yes, an estate manager can send them back... just thought an official notice as a reminder would be a good idea
[08:41:24] Rosie Gray: I'm trying not to name a name here
[08:41:29] Birch (moonrise.azalee): boxes for sale are different than just boxes of stuff accidentally left
[08:41:35] Rosie Gray: but there is one person doing this deligberately
[08:41:37] Shep (shep.titian): There has been a gheneral state of people pushing boxes .. sorry ... and we need a general tidy up
[08:41:40] Birch (moonrise.azalee): ((eek -- sorry for speaking out of turn))
[08:41:58] Ranma Tardis: raises hand
[08:42:04] Rosie Gray: done
[08:42:35] Shep (shep.titian): Ran
[08:43:02] Shep (shep.titian): I hear the name Rosie lol
[08:43:13] Ranma Tardis: correct me if I am wrong, that is an executive function not in the RA lane
[08:44:43] Shep (shep.titian): It is mostly Ran .. but RA makes the laws .. so I think we can join in
[08:44:43] Ranma Tardis: done
[08:44:49] Callipygian Christensen: oops
[08:45:00] Shep (shep.titian): Calli?
[08:45:38] Callipygian Christensen: I managed to TP myself across the sim..noting related to the meeting lol
[08:45:52] Birch (moonrise.azalee) grins
[08:46:24] Shep (shep.titian): hahahahahaha
[08:46:55] Shep (shep.titian): Ok moving on ... New business
[08:46:55] Callipygian Christensen: however, if we are on exec and land stuff a moment, can we ask for a clarification of whether setting land to only allow people with payment info on file is within covenants or not?
[08:47:12] Callipygian Christensen: (sorry, Rosie and the boxes jogged my memory)
[08:47:52] Aliasi Stonebender: That's a good question, although it depends on why it's being set that way, I'd imagine.
[08:48:27] Shep (shep.titian): Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I would personally have to look that up .. but that is the only way to pay I believe
[08:48:57] Aliasi Stonebender: Well, no, you can pay with pure linden to the boxes. GETTING linden might be difficult but the trick is possible, i.e. third-party L$ sellers.
[08:48:57] Lilith Ivory: I confess I set a a few group owned parcels this way to deal with some griefers and didn´t think about changing it back to normal (have to change that soon)
[08:48:58] Tor Karlsvalt: It might be a problem for events.
[08:49:07] Callipygian Christensen: traditonally that is a setting to avoid griefers - but there are other ways to deal with them and the payment info thing seems to fall toward the 'ban lines' side of things
[08:49:28] Shep (shep.titian): I know you can't pay someone elses hippo .. I tried and it refunds you
[08:49:40] Metafictioner:
[08:49:57] Aliasi Stonebender: yes, but it's not like they can't hand you the money and you pay, as it were.
[08:50:40] Ranma Tardis: griefing? will someone please pay my meter in Caledon for 8 weeks
[08:50:44] Shep (shep.titian): Yes but the idea is to keep alts from being citizens
[08:50:56] Callipygian Christensen: I am confused - did I miss something that moved us on to hippo boxes?
[08:51:06] Lilith Ivory: I think it´s an interesting question anyway which settings on private land are allowed and which are not
[08:51:31] Aliasi Stonebender: Just the main reason I could see to worry about that setting is 'it might fall across the 'general ban line' prohibition'.
[08:51:31] Lilith Ivory: as we got a few new setting options lately
[08:51:32] Birch (moonrise.azalee): i dont think i have payment info on file
[08:51:54] Tor Karlsvalt: The covenants do require public access.
[08:52:00] Shep (shep.titian): Yes you do
[08:52:02] Callipygian Christensen: my original question was 'is setting your land/store to only allow people with payment info on file with LL the same as bn lines, which are not permitted
[08:52:38] Shep (shep.titian): Oh sorry .. my mind went alt!!
[08:53:11] Rosie Gray: no doubt it did!
[08:53:15] Shep (shep.titian): Yes thats like saying I only want people with money
[08:54:04] Lilith Ivory: but what about the setting that only age vertified people are allowed on a parcel?
[08:54:32] Birch (moonrise.azalee): i took payment info off my file for a while due to issues i was having with Paypal. For many months
[08:54:49] Tor Karlsvalt: I think on setting begets another.
[08:54:59] Shep (shep.titian): Ok we don't have the answer her at this time
[08:55:18] Shep (shep.titian): Can we move on
[08:55:23] Aliasi Stonebender: I'm pretty sure any banline that isn't a specific user would fall prey to that, but that might be a question for the full SC.
[08:55:32] Aliasi Stonebender: I'll try to remember to bring it up, next meeting.
[08:55:49] Shep (shep.titian): I'm happy to agenda it
[08:56:22] Shep (shep.titian): Ok new business
[08:58:32] Tor Karlsvalt gets coffee
[08:59:09] Shep (shep.titian): I thought it wise to state in a meeting that the covenants that have been in force in LA remain in force until the rebuild happens .. in the meantime there were a number pof people happy to work on the new ones .. Fern being one ... and Rosie I wondered if the guild wanted to form a committee to work them out?
[08:59:51] Ranma Tardis: nods
[08:59:53] Rosie Gray: we could do that, if the RA requests
[09:00:35] Shep (shep.titian): Ok ... no squeeking lol
[09:01:18] Callipygian Christensen raises her hand
[09:01:32] Shep (shep.titian): I propose we ask the Guild to form a committee to work out the new covenants for LA
[09:01:38] Ranma Tardis: second
[09:01:47] Shep (shep.titian): Calli
[09:02:34] Callipygian Christensen waits since Ranma has seconded to treat the proposal as a motion?
[09:02:47] Shep (shep.titian): Thank you
[09:02:50] Shep (shep.titian): Vote
[09:02:52] Ranma Tardis: lets vote aye
[09:02:54] Shep (shep.titian): Aye
[09:03:03] Birch (moonrise.azalee): Aye
[09:03:35] Shep (shep.titian): Good Rosie could we ask you to set that in motion ?
[09:03:44] Rosie Gray: yes
[09:03:49] Rosie Gray: ?
[09:03:51] Shep (shep.titian): Thank you
[09:03:55] Shep (shep.titian): Calli?
[09:04:41] Callipygian Christensen: Thank you. I drafted a concept map for the LA sim terraform and dropped it to those who have been aactive in the discusssion/planning - it is also on dispaly at the schoolhouse in NFS if people want to look
[09:04:54] Callipygian Christensen: done
[09:05:11] Rosie Gray *raises hand*
[09:05:36] Shep (shep.titian): And I will add that I like it very much and am sure Alexia will be happy
[09:05:48] Shep (shep.titian): Rosie
[09:05:56] Birch (moonrise.azalee) makes mental note to self to go take a look
[09:06:17] Pip Torok does the same
[09:06:19] Rosie Gray: yes just wanted to encourage anyone else who has a vision for the sim to also create a map drawing, and we can put it with the other two ideas.
[09:06:44] Rosie Gray: and echo that I like Calli's too
[09:06:47] Rosie Gray: done
[09:07:23] Tor Karlsvalt likes Callie's also.
[09:08:02] Shep (shep.titian): Seems we have a secret town developer amongst us
[09:08:18] Rosie Gray: poor Delia
[09:08:40] Callipygian Christensen: phhht..it's a strating point but thank you for your comments everyone
[09:08:49] Shep (shep.titian): Tie her to her seat
[09:09:18] Shep (shep.titian): Ok moving on ...
[09:09:51] Shep (shep.titian): 75k needed to advertise CDS on the grid
[09:10:30] Shep (shep.titian): I expected a slough of hands
[09:10:40] Tor Karlsvalt:
[09:10:43] Pip Torok raises hand
[09:12:11] Shep (shep.titian): Ok .. I propose we allow a sum of 75,000 be released to the executive .. for the reason of advertising and promoting the CDS around the grid
[09:12:24] Ranma Tardis: second
[09:12:43] Shep (shep.titian): Vote
[09:12:47] Ranma Tardis: aye
[09:12:47] Shep (shep.titian): Aye
[09:13:07] Birch (moonrise.azalee) raises hand
[09:13:30] Shep (shep.titian): Yes Birch
[09:13:35] Birch (moonrise.azalee) grins
[09:13:44] Birch (moonrise.azalee): give me a quick sec
[09:13:53] Callipygian Christensen: umm..Pip raised his hand back there?
[09:14:08] Pip Torok: imo a wise expenditure of 75000 will concentrate on 1. democracy its principles and virtues ..2, the community at present her and 3. the looknfeel of our sims .. done
[09:14:10] Shep (shep.titian): Pip
[09:14:34] Rosie Gray:
[09:15:01] Tor Karlsvalt: Well, always fun to have money to spend. I may need suggestions as to ad content and help creating ads.
[09:15:11] Birch (moonrise.azalee) nods...
[09:15:12] Birch (moonrise.azalee): Aye
[09:15:23] Shep (shep.titian): Ok passed
[09:16:22] Shep (shep.titian): We'll have the treasurer arrange the funds Tor
[09:16:34] Tor Karlsvalt:
[09:16:39] Ranma Tardis: grins
[09:16:56] Widget Whiteberry would like to see a forum thread dedicated to ideas for promoting CDS
[09:17:01] Tor Karlsvalt hears the long sealed lock box creek open.
[09:17:12] Rosie Gray giggles
[09:17:23] Widget Whiteberry: hmmm, hears water from the creek
[09:17:46] Widget Whiteberry: soggy lindens?
[09:17:47] Shep (shep.titian): Is that a bat!! :O
[09:18:05] Tor Karlsvalt: damn I thought I caught them all.
[09:18:32] Shep (shep.titian): lol
[09:19:00] Shep (shep.titian): I have a fill in proposal
[09:20:41] Shep (shep.titian): I propose the RA employ the Guild to remake the amphitheatre and develop the parcel to facsilitate thelarger fairground rides we occasionally use
[09:21:15] Widget Whiteberry: I need to take care of something. Please excuse me.
[09:21:30] Tor Karlsvalt raises hand.
[09:21:36] Ranma Tardis: second
[09:21:55] Shep (shep.titian): Vote Aye
[09:22:11] Ranma Tardis: aye
[09:22:27] Callipygian Christensen raises her hand on a point of order
[09:23:03] Shep (shep.titian): Caslli
[09:24:32] Callipygian Christensen: Just as a moment to point out something - while this item has been discussed in the past it is not actually ON today's agenda, so any citizen or the SC could, if they chose, challenge the validity of the vote. Since it HAS been discussed before I can't see that happening, but I suggest strongly that anything you plan to vote on, whether you are calling it a proposal or motion, be on the agenda o the populace is aware.
[09:25:10] Shep (shep.titian): Yes Dean apologies
[09:25:23] Birch (moonrise.azalee): Voting now ---- Aye
[09:25:36] Callipygian Christensen: nah, no apology needed - its not a problem, until some banshee decides it is
[09:25:56] Ranma Tardis: they need to run for ra
[09:26:13] Shep (shep.titian): Thank you .. Rosie if you will bear the work we are giving you .. please move forward
[09:26:44] Shep (shep.titian): Ok No commission reports
[09:26:55] Shep (shep.titian): Tor
[09:28:25] Rosie Gray nods
[09:29:26] Shep (shep.titian): Somebody bump the Chancellor
[09:30:01] Rosie Gray duly bumps
[09:30:42] Shep (shep.titian): Lets dop the rest
[09:30:56] Birch (moonrise.azalee) nods
[09:31:00] Ranma Tardis: nods
[09:31:40] Rosie Gray tries giving Tor a poke, again
[09:31:43] Tor Karlsvalt: sorry
[09:31:48] Birch (moonrise.azalee): Next meeting? I need to head to work.. is it possible to decide that?
[09:31:50] Shep (shep.titian): No general announcements
[09:31:56] Tor Karlsvalt: Yes, just a few things
[09:31:59] Shep (shep.titian): Next meeting
[09:32:11] Shep (shep.titian): Four weeks?
[09:32:20] Ranma Tardis: nods
[09:32:22] Tor Karlsvalt: We have some acts lined up for the fest.
[09:32:42] Tor Karlsvalt: Lindimoo, Jaynine, reggie sunset, Noma Faulta
[09:32:43] Shep (shep.titian): Tor go ahead
[09:32:49] Tor Karlsvalt: Working on a few more.
[09:33:02] Tor Karlsvalt: Lots of irons in the fire.
[09:33:15] Tor Karlsvalt: Also have several DJs
[09:33:26] Tor Karlsvalt: The theater is progressing.
[09:33:56] Tor Karlsvalt: The old theater has been removed and all are encouraged to visit the site to see what Cadence has built so far.
[09:34:07] Tor Karlsvalt: Done
[09:34:11] Birch (moonrise.azalee) stands, trying not to be tooo disruptive... 'I'm off to work guys. Same bat time, same bat place, 4 weeks'
[09:34:31] Rosie Gray: bye Birch!
[09:34:32] josjoha: bye Birch, ty for the efforts in the RA
[09:34:35] Birch (moonrise.azalee): well, ill be back before then, but as far as meeting is concerned
[09:34:35] Pip Torok: a sight worth seeing btw
[09:34:36] Ranma Tardis: move we ajourn
[09:34:37] Lilith Ivory: bye Birch
[09:34:53] Shep (shep.titian): Bye hun
[09:35:07] Birch (moonrise.azalee): thank you all!
[09:35:11] Birch (moonrise.azalee): See you soon
[09:35:18] Lilith Ivory: I need to run too - see you guys )
[09:35:19] Tor Karlsvalt: bye Birch
[09:35:24] Shep (shep.titian): Tor are you done?
[09:35:25] Tor Karlsvalt: by Lil
[09:35:28] Birch (moonrise.azalee): oh, i second we adjourn
[09:35:29] Birch (moonrise.azalee): lol
[09:35:31] josjoha: bye Lillith
[09:35:34] Lilith Ivory is offline.
[09:35:35] Ranma Tardis: aye
[09:35:37] Shep (shep.titian): Bye Lil
[09:35:50] Shep (shep.titian): aye
[09:35:59] Shep (shep.titian): You're free Ran
[09:36:12] Birch (moonrise.azalee): aye
[09:37:18] Shep (shep.titian): Next meeting as Ran says Sept 28th at 8 am
[09:37:31] Callipygian Christensen: after Tuesday or Wednesday i will be gone again for a wek or so, just as FYI
[09:37:38] Ranma Tardis: would say we had a very productive meeting
[09:38:13] Shep (shep.titian): Yes we did
[09:38:14] Pip Torok: agrees
[09:38:38] Shep (shep.titian): Looks forward to the events to promote CDS
[09:39:03] Tor Karlsvalt: yeah
[09:39:24] Tor Karlsvalt: I am going to have some little script for performers.
[09:39:42] Rosie Gray: good idea
[09:40:14] Shep (shep.titian): Cool
[09:40:38] Birch (moonrise.azalee): k, leaving for real *waves*
[09:40:55] Shep (shep.titian): Bye hun