Transcript, LUC Meeting August 14, 2021

[Rosie Gray]

[2021/08/14 09:35] Mizou Vavoom: the meeting is started at 9:35
[2021/08/14 09:35] Sudane Erato: i move we approve the minutes
[2021/08/14 09:36] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): merci Rosie
[2021/08/14 09:36] Lilith Ivory: I second
[2021/08/14 09:36] Mizou Vavoom: lol Sudane
[2021/08/14 09:36] Mizou Vavoom: aye
[2021/08/14 09:36] Sudane Erato:
[2021/08/14 09:36] Rosie Gray: aye
[2021/08/14 09:36] Lilith Ivory: aye
[2021/08/14 09:36] Sudane Erato: aye
[2021/08/14 09:36] Mizou Vavoom: thts buzzing
[2021/08/14 09:36] Sudane Erato: hehe
[2021/08/14 09:36] Rosie Gray: I would like to add something to the Agenda
[2021/08/14 09:36] Mizou Vavoom: approved
[2021/08/14 09:36] Mizou Vavoom: ok
[2021/08/14 09:36] Rosie Gray: under new business
[2021/08/14 09:37] Rosie Gray: Cube Republic cave system, and example in CN
[2021/08/14 09:37] Mizou Vavoom: /me thinks Rosie sounds mysterious
[2021/08/14 09:37] Rosie Gray: hehe
[2021/08/14 09:37] Sudane Erato: so that's a new proposal?
[2021/08/14 09:37] Sudane Erato: nothing to do with the ice cave?
[2021/08/14 09:38] Rosie Gray: no nothing to do with that
[2021/08/14 09:38] Mizou Vavoom: ok motion to approve change to the agenda
[2021/08/14 09:38] Sudane Erato: fine with me
[2021/08/14 09:38] Lilith Ivory: I would like to recomment that Guild member Rosie builds a cave under the platz with this system
[2021/08/14 09:38] Sudane Erato: hehe
[2021/08/14 09:38] Rosie Gray: oh! lol
[2021/08/14 09:39] Rosie Gray: well let's wait until we get to that item?
[2021/08/14 09:39] Mizou Vavoom: motion to approve change to agenda
[2021/08/14 09:39] Lilith Ivory: I second
[2021/08/14 09:39] Rosie Gray: second
[2021/08/14 09:39] Mizou Vavoom: aye
[2021/08/14 09:39] Rosie Gray: aye
[2021/08/14 09:39] Lilith Ivory: aye
[2021/08/14 09:39] Rosie Gray: Motion to approve Agenda as amended
[2021/08/14 09:39] Sudane Erato: i move we approve tha genda with that addition
[2021/08/14 09:39] Sudane Erato: *agenda
[2021/08/14 09:39] Lilith Ivory: second
[2021/08/14 09:40] Rosie Gray: aye
[2021/08/14 09:40] Sudane Erato: aye
[2021/08/14 09:40] Lilith Ivory: aye
[2021/08/14 09:40] Mizou Vavoom: aye
[2021/08/14 09:40] Mizou Vavoom: 2. Agenda this meeting for approval
https://forums.slcds.info/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=9792
[2021/08/14 09:40] Mizou Vavoom: motion to approve the previous minutes
[2021/08/14 09:40] Rosie Gray: we already did that
[2021/08/14 09:40] Sudane Erato: we did that
[2021/08/14 09:40] Rosie Gray: think we are on New Business now
[2021/08/14 09:40] Mizou Vavoom: sorry
[2021/08/14 09:41] Mizou Vavoom: 3. New business:
a. Discussion of how the LUC can assist the chancellor with inspecting and approving new citizens buildings – Rosie’s starting recommendation on the forum – link?
[2021/08/14 09:41] Rosie Gray: Very sorry but I didn't get to that yet
[2021/08/14 09:41] Mizou Vavoom: no problem
[2021/08/14 09:41] Rosie Gray: I hope to this coming week
[2021/08/14 09:41] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): /me raises her hand
[2021/08/14 09:41] Mizou Vavoom: yes Kyoko
[2021/08/14 09:41] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): Thank you
[2021/08/14 09:42] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): I am wondering why this is t?
[2021/08/14 09:42] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): is an item
[2021/08/14 09:42] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): chat lag
[2021/08/14 09:43] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): What there a specific instance that provoked it?
[2021/08/14 09:43] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): *Was
[2021/08/14 09:43] Sudane Erato: I'm not aware..
[2021/08/14 09:43] Sudane Erato: I shared the way we do it in New England
[2021/08/14 09:43] Lilith Ivory: I wanted to have this on the agenda as originally the LUC had the duty to assist the chancellor with approving new houses and I wanted the LUC to focus more on this duty than on building
[2021/08/14 09:44] Rosie Gray: /me nods
[2021/08/14 09:44] Mizou Vavoom: /me agrees
[2021/08/14 09:44] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): I'm sorry can you show me where that is in a law?
[2021/08/14 09:44] Lilith Ivory: the EMs also approved builddings before and I think it´s always beeter tow peopöle do this than leaving it at the shoulders of one
[2021/08/14 09:44] Mizou Vavoom: does that answer your question Kyoko? this is not something new
[2021/08/14 09:45] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): This is my 4th term and it is new to me
[2021/08/14 09:45] Rosie Gray: When I have been Chancellor, I really wanted the EMs to be more pro-active with this
[2021/08/14 09:45] Rosie Gray: to ensure that it was done in a timely manner
[2021/08/14 09:45] Rosie Gray: as it's a lot for just one person to keep up on
[2021/08/14 09:45] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): well that seems a chancellor perrogative, not a law
[2021/08/14 09:46] Rosie Gray: it's not a law
[2021/08/14 09:46] Rosie Gray: it's meant to be helpful, Kyoko
[2021/08/14 09:46] Rosie Gray: but the Chancellor has the last say
[2021/08/14 09:46] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): I understand that
[2021/08/14 09:46] Lilith Ivory: i remember when the LUC was brand new, Leslie and Widget came to approve my self made Fachwerk
[2021/08/14 09:47] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): but how is it your business if it is a chancellor perogative?
[2021/08/14 09:47] Rosie Gray: because it's the law that the buildings need to be approved in a timely manner
[2021/08/14 09:47] Lilith Ivory: the chancellor has the last word of course , especially when the EM think a building is not suitable for the region
[2021/08/14 09:47] Rosie Gray: and often with Chancellor's with so much to do, it's very difficult to keep up on it
[2021/08/14 09:47] Rosie Gray: sometimes you don't even know when buildings are put down
[2021/08/14 09:48] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): I still do not understand EMs are under the chancellor also
[2021/08/14 09:48] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): I will not press it further
[2021/08/14 09:48] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): But you can take this as my opposition to the KUC pursuing this
[2021/08/14 09:48] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): let's buzzz along
[2021/08/14 09:48] Rosie Gray: yes, so of course they would report to the Chancellor
[2021/08/14 09:49] Mizou Vavoom: point taken Kyoko
[2021/08/14 09:49] Sudane Erato: I think that the LUC has been charged with making suggestions.... so this was a discussion towards a suggestion... but if its not needed, then its not needed
[2021/08/14 09:49] Lilith Ivory: Hi Delia
[2021/08/14 09:49] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): a suggestion yes.
[2021/08/14 09:49] Mizou Vavoom: Hi Delia
[2021/08/14 09:49] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): But it wasn';t present3ed that way
[2021/08/14 09:49] Rosie Gray: hi Delia
[2021/08/14 09:49] Delia Lake: Hi. Sorry for being so late. Saturday mornings are farmers market days for me and it was very crowded there today so took longer
[2021/08/14 09:49] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): please let's move on for timing reasons
[2021/08/14 09:50] Mizou Vavoom: no problem Delia
[2021/08/14 09:50] Lilith Ivory: hehe, did you bring a piglet from the market?
[2021/08/14 09:50] Mizou Vavoom: b. Inspection of buildings we have placed on vacant parcels to make them more attractive
i. Mizou report on LA staged house on CO1B
[2021/08/14 09:51] Mizou Vavoom: I send a message to Em about possibly changing the staging house on that plot to one that has a window looking out onto the sea or maybe a garden as she is the gardener but no answer or change
[2021/08/14 09:52] Mizou Vavoom: as we had discussed
[2021/08/14 09:52] Mizou Vavoom: that was the only house that we checked so far
[2021/08/14 09:53] Mizou Vavoom: any discussion about this?
[2021/08/14 09:53] Rosie Gray: /me raises a hand
[2021/08/14 09:53] Mizou Vavoom: yes Rosie
[2021/08/14 09:53] Rosie Gray: I do think that this is specifically a Chancellor issue, myself
[2021/08/14 09:53] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): thank you rosie
[2021/08/14 09:53] Rosie Gray: since the Gardeners are supposed to be helping the Chancellor
[2021/08/14 09:53] Mizou Vavoom: right
[2021/08/14 09:54] Lilith Ivory: in this case the chancellor might to have to talk with Em about the full bright of her house in LA
[2021/08/14 09:54] Rosie Gray: so, in effect, wouldn't it make sense for the EMs to check them the same way as any citizen housing, and let the Chancellor know if something seems inappropriate, or needs some kind of action?
[2021/08/14 09:54] Rosie Gray: yes, the house walls are full bright
[2021/08/14 09:55] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): /me makes a note
[2021/08/14 09:55] Lilith Ivory: and it does not fit the plot very well so is not attractive for buyers
[2021/08/14 09:55] Rosie Gray: it's a nice house and if the full bright was taken off and it was put somewhere else it would be great
[2021/08/14 09:56] Lilith Ivory: /me agrees
[2021/08/14 09:56] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): wait are we still on C01B?
[2021/08/14 09:56] Rosie Gray: yes
[2021/08/14 09:56] Mizou Vavoom: yes
[2021/08/14 09:56] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): /me nods
[2021/08/14 09:57] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): I will take a look
[2021/08/14 09:57] Mizou Vavoom: thanks Kyoko
[2021/08/14 09:57] Mizou Vavoom: onto the next point
[2021/08/14 09:57] Mizou Vavoom: 4. Miscellaneous:
a. Connecting CDS to Linden waters update (Sudane)
[2021/08/14 09:57] Mizou Vavoom: sorry first new business from Rosie
[2021/08/14 09:58] Mizou Vavoom: Rosie can you explain the cave
[2021/08/14 09:58] Rosie Gray: oh I can come last
[2021/08/14 09:58] Rosie Gray: but if you like
[2021/08/14 09:58] Mizou Vavoom: yes please
[2021/08/14 09:58] Rosie Gray: okay Cube Republic put out a fantastic cave system which I purchased
[2021/08/14 09:59] Rosie Gray: and I've put down a small example on the corner of CN beside the amphitheatre
[2021/08/14 09:59] Rosie Gray: I just moved up into the air and made transparent the existing cave, so that it can be removed and put back if not approved
[2021/08/14 09:59] Rosie Gray: but I think it has great potential for a lot of places
[2021/08/14 09:59] Mizou Vavoom: Rosie is that the one that you showed me recently?
[2021/08/14 09:59] Rosie Gray: and came with a system for 'experiences' that you can script
[2021/08/14 09:59] Rosie Gray: yes Mizou
[2021/08/14 10:00] Mizou Vavoom: yes great experience
[2021/08/14 10:00] Rosie Gray: so you can have the sky go dark and have it hand you a torch when you go in
[2021/08/14 10:00] Rosie Gray: and when you go out, it changes the sky back to the sim default, and removes your torch
[2021/08/14 10:00] Rosie Gray: it will do other things too, but that's all I've experimented with so far
[2021/08/14 10:00] Sudane Erato: hehe... neat
[2021/08/14 10:01] Rosie Gray: yes it really, really enhances the feel of going into a cave or catacomb
[2021/08/14 10:01] Mizou Vavoom: and maybe that could be a solution for our skating cave?
[2021/08/14 10:01] Rosie Gray: and the cave mesh pieces themselves are done really well
[2021/08/14 10:01] Rosie Gray: no, sadly it would be far too many Li for Monastery
[2021/08/14 10:01] Mizou Vavoom: ok
[2021/08/14 10:01] Mizou Vavoom: thats a pity
[2021/08/14 10:02] Rosie Gray: anyway, I propose that everyone have a look at the little cave on the beach, and also go into the catacombs in CN, from the river side
[2021/08/14 10:02] Rosie Gray: and see how the experience works there too
[2021/08/14 10:02] Mizou Vavoom: /me scary
[2021/08/14 10:02] Sudane Erato: sounds neat... ready for halloween
[2021/08/14 10:02] Rosie Gray: if you like the little cave I can write it as a proposal to keep, on the forum
[2021/08/14 10:03] Mizou Vavoom: yes good point Rosie
[2021/08/14 10:03] Rosie Gray: and of course if Madame Chancellor likes it
[2021/08/14 10:03] Rosie Gray: otherwise we can just put the old one back
[2021/08/14 10:04] Rosie Gray: done
[2021/08/14 10:04] Mizou Vavoom: thanks Rosie
[2021/08/14 10:04] Mizou Vavoom: I hope that the citizens like your cave so it can stay
[2021/08/14 10:04] Mizou Vavoom: OK next
[2021/08/14 10:04] Mizou Vavoom: 4. Miscellaneous:
a. Connecting CDS to Linden waters update (Sudane)
[2021/08/14 10:05] Mizou Vavoom: Sudane?
[2021/08/14 10:05] Sudane Erato: sorry!
[2021/08/14 10:05] Sudane Erato: no updates since the last meeting
[2021/08/14 10:06] Sudane Erato: the was of Lindens move slow
[2021/08/14 10:06] Mizou Vavoom: Thanks Sudane
[2021/08/14 10:06] Sudane Erato: *ways/waves
[2021/08/14 10:06] Mizou Vavoom: Before we go to the ice cave, I would like to set the dat and time for the next meeting
[2021/08/14 10:06] Lilith Ivory: /me takes a note that someone is moving more slowly than CDS
[2021/08/14 10:07] Rosie Gray: hehe
[2021/08/14 10:07] Sudane Erato: hehe
[2021/08/14 10:07] Sudane Erato: MUCH!
[2021/08/14 10:07] Mizou Vavoom: 28 August at 9:30 ok for everyone?
[2021/08/14 10:07] Lilith Ivory: fine with me
[2021/08/14 10:07] Rosie Gray: /me checks
[2021/08/14 10:07] Delia Lake: should be ok
[2021/08/14 10:07] Sudane Erato: ok w me
[2021/08/14 10:07] Rosie Gray: yes for me
[2021/08/14 10:07] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): I have a family wedding that day so won't be there.
[2021/08/14 10:08] Mizou Vavoom: motion to approve next meeting schedule
[2021/08/14 10:08] Sudane Erato: second
[2021/08/14 10:08] Mizou Vavoom: aye
[2021/08/14 10:08] Sudane Erato: aye
[2021/08/14 10:08] Lilith Ivory: aye
[2021/08/14 10:08] Delia Lake: aye
[2021/08/14 10:08] Mizou Vavoom: Rosie?
[2021/08/14 10:09] Rosie Gray: aye
[2021/08/14 10:09] Mizou Vavoom: thanks
[2021/08/14 10:09] Rosie Gray: oh a wedding!
[2021/08/14 10:09] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): first grandson's
[2021/08/14 10:09] Mizou Vavoom: b. Ice cave review – Let’s go there, assess, and make a proposal.
i. http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/M ... 201/36/166
ii. Has it been used for skating in events? Traffic 13
iii. What else could we have in its place? (low prim)
[2021/08/14 10:09] Mizou Vavoom: congratu;ations to your grandson
[2021/08/14 10:10] Mizou Vavoom: so lets all go there and have a look and maybe ideas
[2021/08/14 10:11] Kyoko Furse-Barzane (Samara Barzane): I need to leave. My instinct is that we realkly don't need anything there other than a bench. Prims you know
[2021/08/14 10:11] Rosie Gray: /me nods
[2021/08/14 10:11] Sudane Erato:
[2021/08/14 10:11] Rosie Gray: ㋡
[2021/08/14 10:11] Lilith Ivory: oh btw, I just found where the LUC act states it is the responsibility of the LUC to assist the chancellor with new buildings
[2021/08/14 10:11] Lilith Ivory: LUC act
[2021/08/14 10:11] Lilith Ivory: (D) The LUC is obliged to collaborate closely with the Chancellor in an advisory role. This way, the LUC shall assist the Chancellor in fulfilling his/her constitutional tasks with respect to land use and to help integrate new buildings and infrastructure into the landscape. This comprises, but is not limited to trees, rocks, water, roads, parcels, permanent decor, CDS-owned infrastructure and terraforming.
[2021/08/14 10:11] Second Life: Teleport completed from http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/N ... 00/189/182
[2021/08/14 10:12] Lilith Ivory: grr, no cave for me at all
[2021/08/14 10:13] Sudane Erato: chilly!
[2021/08/14 10:13] Delia Lake: This cave is old technology. I will gladly remove it. My only request is that no one send it back to my lost and found please
[2021/08/14 10:13] Rosie Gray: it did rez for me, after a bit
[2021/08/14 10:13] Rosie Gray: you could just take it now, Delia
[2021/08/14 10:13] Rosie Gray: no?
[2021/08/14 10:13] Delia Lake: is that our decision? if so, I shall
[2021/08/14 10:13] Sudane Erato: isn't it Kyoko's final say?
[2021/08/14 10:14] Rosie Gray: yes
[2021/08/14 10:14] Mizou Vavoom: so take the cave and leave the skating part?
[2021/08/14 10:14] Sudane Erato: although she did just now say all we need is a bench here
[2021/08/14 10:14] Rosie Gray: I don't think the skating part has ever been used
[2021/08/14 10:14] Rosie Gray: it was a nice idea for its time
[2021/08/14 10:14] Mizou Vavoom: i didnt even know it existed
[2021/08/14 10:14] Delia Lake: that doesn't make sense to take the cave and leave the ice. Ice melts
[2021/08/14 10:15] Mizou Vavoom: true
[2021/08/14 10:15] Sudane Erato: it would have to become a crater lake
[2021/08/14 10:15] Delia Lake: it has been used for skating but not recently. there used to be free skate box at this entry
[2021/08/14 10:15] Lilith Ivory: /me agrees
[2021/08/14 10:15] Rosie Gray: I honestly think that we don't need it
[2021/08/14 10:15] Mizou Vavoom: so do we need something else there? trees maybe?
[2021/08/14 10:16] Lilith Ivory: in winter we have better places to scate and who is in the mood to scate in summer?
[2021/08/14 10:16] Lilith Ivory: skate
[2021/08/14 10:16] Rosie Gray: yes, or inside
[2021/08/14 10:16] Rosie Gray: but, to meet the requirements of the law
[2021/08/14 10:16] Delia Lake: I am in the mood to skate this week in rl. it is very very hot and humid where I am
[2021/08/14 10:16] Rosie Gray: we need to post it on the forum
[2021/08/14 10:16] Sudane Erato: wow... neat... one of Sleazy Writer's rocks on the side
[2021/08/14 10:16] Mizou Vavoom: right
[2021/08/14 10:17] Rosie Gray: and wait for 7 days to see if there are comments
[2021/08/14 10:17] Mizou Vavoom: Who will post it?
[2021/08/14 10:17] Rosie Gray: I'll post it if you like
[2021/08/14 10:17] Mizou Vavoom: thanks Rosie
[2021/08/14 10:17] Lilith Ivory: aawwww
[2021/08/14 10:18] Lilith Ivory: I miss Sleazy
[2021/08/14 10:18] Rosie Gray: or someone else
[2021/08/14 10:18] Rosie Gray: oh did you know Sleazy? I don't think I ever met him/her
[2021/08/14 10:18] Mizou Vavoom: anyone else wants the posting task?
[2021/08/14 10:18] Lilith Ivory: Sleazy was around when I arrived 2007
[2021/08/14 10:18] Delia Lake: I miss Sleazy also
[2021/08/14 10:19] Delia Lake: He helped me at MoCA
[2021/08/14 10:19] Lilith Ivory: a dutch guy
[2021/08/14 10:19] Rosie Gray: ah
[2021/08/14 10:19] Mizou Vavoom: I remember the name but never met him
[2021/08/14 10:19] Sudane Erato: very nice guy who made a lot of stuff
[2021/08/14 10:19] Delia Lake: yes
[2021/08/14 10:21] Mizou Vavoom: Ok i need to get into my swimsuit before i set off
[2021/08/14 10:21] Rosie Gray: so does anyone else want to make the posting? Delia?
[2021/08/14 10:21] Delia Lake: no, thank you
[2021/08/14 10:21] Rosie Gray: okay
[2021/08/14 10:21] Rosie Gray: I'll do it then
[2021/08/14 10:21] Mizou Vavoom: thanks Rosie
[2021/08/14 10:21] Delia Lake: thank you
[2021/08/14 10:21] Mizou Vavoom: this concludes our meeting thanks everyone