[08:37] Lilith Ivory: should we get started?
[08:37] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): ist requisite of a good meeting met lol
[08:37] Lilith Ivory: the agenda is in the box on the table
[08:37] Sudane Erato: yes... quick note here... I must leave at 10
[08:37] Sudane Erato: so i have 90 mins
[08:38] Breila Jenvieve: I have minutes from the previous meeting, but apparently I am unable to post, so I can hand them around.
[08:38] Lilith Ivory: 90 mins sound good to me 
[08:38] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): hopes to leave before that lol
[08:38] Lilith Ivory: oh? did you log into the forum to post?
[08:38] Breila Jenvieve: I can see it but not post
[08:38] Sudane Erato: i tried to post something else
[08:38] Tori (tori.landau): I have to leave at 9:30 so my apologies in advance too
[08:38] Lilith Ivory: you need to log in with your password Breila
[08:38] Sudane Erato: and it wouldn't let me
[08:38] Lilith Ivory: thats why I created an account for you
[08:38] Breila Jenvieve: I thought I did... will look at it later.
[08:39] Sudane Erato: it said that my IP address is a threat!
[08:39] Breila Jenvieve: Cool Sudane
[08:39] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): we already knew that Sudane
[08:39] Sudane Erato:
[08:39] Rosie Gray: I've had that happen before to me, Sudane
[08:39] Sudane Erato: lol... maybe I am
[08:39] Sudane Erato: oh!
[08:39] Rosie Gray: I had to use a VPN to log in
[08:39] Sudane Erato: never happened to me
[08:39] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): of the very best kind Sudane
[08:39] Rosie Gray: then it just went back to normal
[08:39] Sudane Erato: well, tell that to the website
[08:40] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[08:40] Agatha Macbeth: Thanks
[08:40] Lilith Ivory: if you have problems to log in I can help you later
[08:40] Second Life: Breila Jenvieve gave you LUC Meeting Transcript 20 August 2022.
[08:40] Tori (tori.landau): Thank you Breila
[08:41] Moon Adamant: thanks Bre
[08:41] Lilith Ivory: thank you
[08:41] Sudane Erato: thx Bre... but mine's empty
[08:41] Lilith Ivory: is it just me or is the NC empty?
[08:41] Rosie Gray: oops, the notecard is blank
[08:41] Sudane Erato:
[08:41] Breila Jenvieve: Mother mary
[08:41] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): me too but so's my mind
[08:41] Agatha Macbeth: Mine too
[08:41] Sudane Erato: isn't SL fun??
[08:42] Lilith Ivory: lets leave it for now as as a notecard we dont really need the transcript
[08:42] Lilith Ivory: it is important to have it posted on the forum for others to read
[08:42] Breila Jenvieve: I gave yu the wrong thing, my apologies
[08:42] Sudane Erato: np
[08:42] Lilith Ivory: and the minutes will be helpful for Agatha when she reports to the RA
[08:43] Agatha Macbeth: Hopefully
[08:43] Second Life: Breila Jenvieve gave you LUC Meeting Minutes 23 July 2022.
[08:43] Tori (tori.landau): thank you!
[08:43] Rosie Gray: thank you
[08:43] Breila Jenvieve: Better I hope
[08:44] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): yep
[08:44] Breila Jenvieve: Whew!
[08:45] Lilith Ivory: thank you
[08:45] Lilith Ivory: are we all ok with the minutes?
[08:45] Sudane Erato: good with me
[08:45] Rosie Gray: you might want to distinguish who are actually on the LUC, vs. who is 'also attending'
[08:45] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): nods
[08:45] Lilith Ivory: good point
[08:46] Rosie Gray: ㋡
[08:46] Moon Adamant: minutes good, I think
[08:46] Breila Jenvieve: I need to get that clarified and I'll make the change.
[08:46] Tori (tori.landau): Yes, a lot happening!
[08:46] Lilith Ivory: what do you mean ?
[08:46] Breila Jenvieve: Please let me know if you are LUC.
[08:47] Rosie Gray: you can always look on the CDS website... as someone who has to be reminded myself constantly! haha
[08:47] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): not I..just an innocent by-sitter
[08:47] Lilith Ivory: I am in the LUC and so are Sudane, Delia, Agatha and Moon
[08:47] Moon Adamant: LUC here
[08:47] Rosie Gray: https://cdsdemocracy.org/cds-themes/lan ... ommission/
[08:47] Breila Jenvieve: Perfect, thank you all, very helpful!
[08:48] Breila Jenvieve: I'll get better at this!
[08:48] Lilith Ivory: it needs experience for sure
[08:49] Sudane Erato: np... nothing perfect in the CDS
[08:49] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[08:49] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): grins
[08:49] Lilith Ivory: are we ok with the agenda too?
[08:49] Lilith Ivory: so we can get really started
[08:49] Agatha Macbeth: Ok here
[08:49] Moon Adamant: OK
[08:49] Sudane Erato: yep... all ok with me
[08:50] Breila Jenvieve: Looks good
[08:50] Tori (tori.landau): ok
[08:50] Lilith Ivory: I moved Kyokos poposal up as I think it is more important atm than the classified locations
[08:50] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): kyoko thanks you
[08:51] Lilith Ivory smiles
[08:51] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): let me know when to wake up
[08:51] Sudane Erato:
[08:51] Lilith Ivory: might take 90 minutes lol
[08:51] Sudane Erato: hehe
[08:51] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): pffffft
[08:52] Lilith Ivory: first agenda item : A real pathway to the catacombes in Colonia Nova:
[08:52] Sudane Erato: yay!
[08:52] Lilith Ivory: Moon do you have anything to report about this?
[08:52] Moon Adamant: yes, I do
[08:52] Lilith Ivory: more secret pathways 
[08:52] Sudane Erato: exactly
[08:52] Rosie Gray: ㋡
[08:52] Moon Adamant: let me share a draft image with you all
[08:52] Lilith Ivory: awesome
[08:52] Second Life: Moon Adamant gave you CN TUNNEL SYSTEM DRAFT.
[08:53] Agatha Macbeth feels a draft
[08:53] Rosie Gray: thank you Moon
[08:53] Sudane Erato: as usual, Moon's "draft" image is beautiful
[08:53] Lilith Ivory: thank you
[08:53] Moon Adamant: I think everyone has it... you alll shoudl have got a texture called
[08:53] Breila Jenvieve: Thank you
[08:53] Tori (tori.landau): Yes, it is very clear
[08:53] Moon Adamant: CN TUNNEL SYSTEM DRAFT
[08:54] Moon Adamant: just a quick note on this
[08:54] Lilith Ivory: Hi Sandy
[08:54] Agatha Macbeth: Hello Sandy
[08:54] Sandy Burgess: Hello all
[08:54] Lilith Ivory: welcome to our Land use commission meeting
[08:54] Moon Adamant: Hi Sandy
[08:54] Tori (tori.landau): Hi °͜°
[08:54] Lilith Ivory: that draft looks awesome moon
[08:54] Rosie Gray: hello Sandy
[08:54] Sandy Burgess: I have not rented here but would like to see what the place is about
[08:55] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): Hi Saandy
[08:55] Agatha Macbeth: If you find out please tell me :p
[08:55] Lilith Ivory: are the orange lines where you think the cave/tunnel should go?
[08:55] Sudane Erato: Please welcome to our meeting
[08:55] Sandy Burgess smiles. I will
[08:55] Lilith Ivory: our meetings are open for all who are interested
[08:55] Sandy Burgess: Thank you
[08:55] Moon Adamant: #1 This is just a draft to try to link teh existing structures (solid line) to teh cave, and also reach interesting points like the steaming manholes, etc
[08:56] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): this is the land use commision where things really happen
[08:56] Tori (tori.landau): My first time at this meeting too °͜°
[08:56] Lilith Ivory: we discuss here how to improve our estate
[08:56] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): currently onsessed with underground pathways
[08:56] Lilith Ivory: our estate is owned by its citizens and all have a say with what is going to happen
[08:56] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): *obsessed
[08:57] Tori (tori.landau): they will be fun to explore
[08:57] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): try under the schloss lol
[08:57] Moon Adamant: #2 it tries to keep the path under the public land as much as possible. With anchoring to public land the route can be more sinuous, of course, and incorporate rooms, etc which I haven't marked
[08:57] Lilith Ivory: as they are supposed to be secret
[08:57] Lilith Ivory grins
[08:57] Sudane Erato: supposed to be
[08:58] Moon Adamant: #3 it also frees up as much as possible the theatre slope... and here my note: I would like to bring up theatre in AOB 
[08:58] Sudane Erato: isn't easy to keep secrets here
[08:58] Lilith Ivory: Sudane , would you be willing to do the digging for us as you are our most experienced terraformer?
[08:58] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[08:58] Sudane Erato: be happy to... i recall that request from last meetings minutes
[08:59] Sudane Erato: got to find my shovel
[08:59] Lilith Ivory: we actually started last term but got sidetracked by talking about the Neifreistadt underground
[08:59] Sudane Erato: ahhh
[08:59] Tori (tori.landau) is imagining a mini digger going around in the dark
[08:59] Sudane Erato:
[08:59] Sudane Erato: exactly Tori
[09:00] Agatha Macbeth: Or a large mole
[09:00] Sudane Erato: hehe
[09:00] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): borrow one from LL
[09:00] Sudane Erato: i do get REALLY dirty!
[09:00] Lilith Ivory: we can add to our proposal that Sudane is willing to be our digger
[09:01] Breila Jenvieve: Noted.
[09:01] Lilith Ivory: of course we need to send a proposal to the chancellor first
[09:01] Sudane Erato: an info point about this here
[09:01] Sudane Erato: that is
[09:01] Sudane Erato: the digging is not so much the problem... fairly easy
[09:01] Sudane Erato: but
[09:01] Sudane Erato: the visible terrain will need to be replaced
[09:01] Sudane Erato: using landform prims
[09:02] Sudane Erato: thats a bit fussier
[09:02] Sudane Erato: making it look right
[09:02] Sudane Erato: so thats the bigger part of the job
[09:02] Rosie Gray: except for under the roads, which will already perform that bit
[09:02] Sudane Erato: yes, true
[09:02] Sudane Erato: but my reaction to Moons diagram is
[09:02] Lilith Ivory: it seems only a very small part will go under open land
[09:03] Moon Adamant perks an ear
[09:03] Sudane Erato: that having it go straight along under the road
[09:03] Sudane Erato: is a bit artificial
[09:03] Moon Adamant: consider that as the line that rules the anchoring points
[09:03] Sudane Erato: i feel that a cave system may be more meandering
[09:03] Sudane Erato: yes, agreed
[09:04] Rosie Gray: but what about a cave that connects to underground sewers?
[09:04] Sudane Erato: but still under various areas not covered by road
[09:04] Rosie Gray: then it would be natural that they are under the roads
[09:04] Sudane Erato: exactly Rosie
[09:04] Lilith Ivory: I would like it more meandering too if possible
[09:04] Moon Adamant: sure
[09:04] Sudane Erato: ahh... ok, yes
[09:04] Breila Jenvieve: Would it all be on common land?
[09:04] Lilith Ivory: yes we were talking about that at the last meeting
[09:04] Moon Adamant: but I didn't want to present a final proposal... just a draft, so that's why it goes straight
[09:04] Sudane Erato: but, well... we're not just building sewers, are we?
[09:04] Sandy Burgess: You could have a part old sewers which would be straight and then connected some meandering caves
[09:04] Lilith Ivory: partly cave and partly sewers
[09:05] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): eeeeeeeeeeeeuw
[09:05] Rosie Gray: yes
[09:05] Sudane Erato: ok... good points
[09:05] Sudane Erato: can be an organic mix
[09:05] Rosie Gray: would save on some LI that way and still give the similar effect
[09:05] Sudane Erato: still.. the cave opening is in the NE corner
[09:05] Sudane Erato: and its entirely rock forms out there
[09:06] Sudane Erato: so terrain will need to get built
[09:06] Sandy Burgess: And under places like public buildings it is not unknown to have secret passages with secret doors to sewers
[09:06] Sudane Erato:
[09:06] Moon Adamant: I also think it can be interesting if it relates to stuff that it is already in place, like the manholes, thermae and temple, of course
[09:06] Sudane Erato: we have plenty
[09:06] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): Sandy you are fitting right in
[09:06] Moon Adamant: take it to the sim edge and make a vent there
[09:06] Sudane Erato: hehe
[09:06] Lilith Ivory: there are already catacombes to explore
[09:07] Lilith Ivory: we want to expand them
[09:07] Sudane Erato: and blessedly, a lot of prims available
[09:07] Agatha Macbeth: That helps!
[09:07] Lilith Ivory: yes
[09:07] Sudane Erato: yes
[09:08] Sandy Burgess: a venture or an experience teleporter that takes you to ... who knows ...
[09:08] Tori (tori.landau): If we have hunts we could involve them in those too
[09:08] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): Eduverse welcome island?
[09:08] Lilith Ivory: oh my, I was thinking about having hunts for years, but never found the time to organize one
[09:09] Sandy Burgess: lol - or just above the volcano
[09:09] Sudane Erato: Rosie is our experience guru
[09:09] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[09:09] Lilith Ivory: I absolutely love what Rosie did in the Neufreistadt underground
[09:10] Rosie Gray: thanks Lilith ㋡
[09:10] Tori (tori.landau): I need to explore CDS more
[09:10] Breila Jenvieve: same
[09:10] Lilith Ivory: my cabaret building would look only half as good without her experience
[09:10] Sudane Erato: hehe... but be careful!
[09:10] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): yep
[09:10] Rosie Gray: there's lots to explore!
[09:10] Sudane Erato: we've lost citizens in the undergrounds
[09:10] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[09:10] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): Lilith put me in the stocks once and threw rotten tomatoes at me.. I foget why
[09:11] Sudane Erato: LOL
[09:11] Lilith Ivory: I guess you made a mistake with setting land for sale lol
[09:11] Sudane Erato: hehe
[09:11] Rosie Gray: lol
[09:11] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): tee hee
[09:11] Lilith Ivory grins
[09:12] Sudane Erato: whats the next step here?
[09:12] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): there is a photo somewhere....
[09:12] Sudane Erato: (watching the clock)
[09:12] Lilith Ivory: right Sudane
[09:13] Lilith Ivory: Moon, can you write our thoughts into a proposal so we can present it to Tor?
[09:13] Lilith Ivory: (our chancellor)
[09:13] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): yes I's like to get my proposal proposed before folks start drifting off
[09:13] Moon Adamant: oh sure
[09:13] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): for the eduvational reserve
[09:13] Moon Adamant: I'll run it for revision
[09:13] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): sorry wrong window
[09:13] Lilith Ivory: I can present it to him as soon as we have agreed on the proposal
[09:14] Lilith Ivory: (he knows better than to say no to me
[09:14] Moon Adamant:
[09:14] Rosie Gray: haha
[09:14] Sudane Erato: hehe
[09:14] Lilith Ivory smiles softly
[09:14] Breila Jenvieve: Smart man
[09:15] Rosie Gray: dare I mention the issue of the ampthitheatre?
[09:15] Lilith Ivory: ok, is there more to discuss bout this item atm or can we move forward?
[09:15] Rosie Gray: amphitheatre*
[09:15] Lilith Ivory: what issue Rosie?
[09:15] Rosie Gray: the issue that nobody has permissions on it so it will need to be rebuilt in order to make tunnels underneath it
[09:15] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): Moon has that covered LOL
[09:16] Lilith Ivory: its a Cadence build right?
[09:16] Rosie Gray: yes ma'am
[09:16] Lilith Ivory: how does she have that covered Kyoko?
[09:16] Moon Adamant: oh, that's my comment
[09:16] Lilith Ivory: ah ok
[09:16] Moon Adamant: i would like to discuss theatre in AOB
[09:17] Rosie Gray: ㋡
[09:17] Lilith Ivory: sorry lol what is AOB ?
[09:17] Sudane Erato: AOB ?
[09:17] Moon Adamant: AND MoCA
[09:17] Moon Adamant: Any Other Business
[09:17] Lilith Ivory: I am terrible poor with things like that
[09:17] Sudane Erato: ahh...
[09:17] Lilith Ivory: ah ok
[09:17] Lilith Ivory: lol
[09:17] Moon Adamant: that bit we always skip at the end
[09:17] Lilith Ivory: (me remembers she has used that word herself in the agenda lol
[09:17] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): excuse me...
[09:17] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): coughs
[09:18] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): points to next agenda item
[09:18] Lilith Ivory offers Kyoko a candy
[09:18] Moon Adamant: poor Kyoko!
[09:18] Lilith Ivory: would you like to replace me as chair Kyoko?
[09:18] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): god no
[09:18] Lilith Ivory: good
[09:18] Sudane Erato: hehe
[09:19] Lilith Ivory: ok , if we are done with the caves than we can move forward to our next agenda item
[09:19] Lilith Ivory: Proposal Kyoko:
Historical educational signage
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WwK ... vZ3FY/edit
[09:19] Lilith Ivory: first you have the floor Ms PIO
[09:20] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): May I say a few things please?
[09:20] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): OK
[09:20] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): I am a bit sidetracked as some of you know. Yesterday I was diagnosed weith a compressed vertebrae
[09:21] Agatha Macbeth: Oww
[09:21] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): not lookinhg for pit. Just shorter meetings LOL
[09:21] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): *pity
[09:21] Moon Adamant: oh 
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[09:21] KB Byk is offline.
[09:21] Lilith Ivory: sorry to hear that
[09:21] Rosie Gray: oh dear
[09:22] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): I think my proposal is clear. It's meant to provide signage pointing out some educational features of CDS
[09:22] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): And my comments still stand
[09:22] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): distinctive signage and not tyoo many
[09:22] Lilith Ivory: (I have Kyokos official proposal in the other box in front of the easels
[09:22] Breila Jenvieve: VWEC would be thrilled to see that, I believe.
[09:23] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): This is related to Lil'iths legacy proposal being discussed in email.
[09:23] Lilith Ivory: oh?
[09:23] Sudane Erato: Oh!... I read this and thought it was wonderful!
[09:23] Sudane Erato: but 3 more sims to go still... a lot of work!
[09:24] Rosie Gray: it had a good start with Tor's notes
[09:24] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): I think we need to be careful to be selective there rather than spreading a multitude of signs hither and yon
[09:24] Lilith Ivory: I guess that if we want to discuss that legacy proposal here we need to share with the other LUC members and guests what has been discussed
[09:24] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): I'll drop that for now as it hasn't been brought up in LUC
[09:24] Moon Adamant: I really like the Landmarks shared text
[09:24] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): but will be happy to clarify when it does
[09:25] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): As LUC will, LUC will decide what the signs will be etc..
[09:25] Sandy Burgess: Oh - there cannot be too many signs ... Germans just love their "Schilderwald" ...
[09:25] Lilith Ivory: hehehe
[09:25] Lilith Ivory can tell stories about that
[09:25] Lilith Ivory: brb, need more coffee
[09:25] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): Just a strong encouragement from me to make the edu0signs to a small number for credibility
[09:26] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): It is in your lap now
[09:26] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): /done
[09:26] Rosie Gray: I don't think we've ever overdone the signage in the CDS
[09:26] Moon Adamant: noticing we still miss text for three sims
[09:26] Lilith Ivory: back
[09:26] Rosie Gray nods
[09:26] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): I agree
[09:26] Moon Adamant: not complaining! This kind of text is really hard to write!
[09:26] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): but this is a speicif set for a specific reaSON
[09:27] Sudane Erato: Agree w Rosie... we have a long way to go to overdue signage. Signs of info make a place more friendly
[09:27] Lilith Ivory: I agree
[09:27] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): AS i SQAID i'M HAPPY TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS, BUT IT IS YOUR PROJECT IGF YOU TAKE IT ON
[09:27] Breila Jenvieve: I honestly think it would be hard to overdo, really.
[09:27] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): SORRY
[09:28] Agatha Macbeth rubs her ear
[09:28] Sudane Erato: hehe
[09:28] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): fyi caps in my case do nit mean yelling lol
[09:28] Lilith Ivory: but reading Kyokos suggestions I think we should only have signs at public buildings and legacy buildings as private parcels like the Owl and rabbit tavern come and go
[09:28] Rosie Gray: I agree, Lilith
[09:28] Moon Adamant: Also... incorporate this text at the website?
[09:28] Breila Jenvieve: And a private parcel can put up its own sign if it chooses.
[09:28] Rosie Gray: only public buildings... but people can of course make their own signs for their private buildings
[09:29] Moon Adamant: because it's really friendly
[09:29] Rosie Gray: good idea, Moon!
[09:29] Sudane Erato: Well... I'm all in favor of this... what's the next step?
[09:29] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): Beila I think that's a problem
[09:29] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): the edu-signs are a specfic item in my view
[09:29] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): but of course your call
[09:29] Breila Jenvieve: I can see what you mean there.
[09:30] Lilith Ivory: we need to agree which places should have a sign, we need to write the notecards and we need to agree on how the signs will look like
[09:30] Rosie Gray: I see you have some examples up, Lilith
[09:30] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): the ntent of the proposal is to pick out locations that have some edu-content
[09:30] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): /really done
[09:31] Moon Adamant: why have a notecard? set the signs saying the paragraphs to the people clicking on them
[09:31] Lilith Ivory: can you explain what edu-content might be?
[09:31] Breila Jenvieve: I agree Moon
[09:31] Lilith Ivory: what is different from our own historic buildings?
[09:31] Sandy Burgess: You could make a hud in addition of signs that displays information to places when i a specific area
[09:31] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): ok
[09:31] Rosie Gray: oh that's a good idea, Moon
[09:31] Lilith Ivory: I agree Moon
[09:31] Moon Adamant: *Moon's inventory is full of notecards* :-/
[09:31] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[09:31] Rosie Gray: indeed
[09:31] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): environmental... such as the rhenus being mideled after the PO tiver
[09:32] Breila Jenvieve: Yes, I vote for local chat, which is probably less laggy than other options.
[09:32] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): Historical--Praetorium and *coughs* Owl and Rabbit
[09:32] Tori (tori.landau): Good thought Sandy, I've used those at some Sl events
[09:32] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): thermae --roman bath house
[09:32] Lilith Ivory: I have not even a clue where the owl and rabbit is lol
[09:33] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): that's fine
[09:33] Lilith Ivory: and I assume it willbe gone as soon as Biran goes on leave again
[09:33] Moon Adamant: lol Lil, exactly what I was thinking
[09:33] Lilith Ivory: owl and RABBIT sounds like Brian
[09:33] Rosie Gray: yes, private parcels are out of bounds for this, in my opinion
[09:33] Breila Jenvieve: Maybe a first step is to list (and LM) possible locations then?
[09:33] Lilith Ivory: yes exactly
[09:33] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): that should work for visually imapired as they need text for their text readers
[09:34] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): to convert to voice
[09:34] Moon Adamant: aaah good point Kyoko
[09:34] Tori (tori.landau): Yes Kyoko, thank you for thinking of that
[09:34] Agatha Macbeth: Indeed
[09:34] Moon Adamant needs to know more about accessible SL
[09:35] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): well the VWEC Eduverse Welcome Island has been made as accessible as is possible
[09:35] Lilith Ivory: in this case a notecard reader is an even better idea
[09:35] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): Wordsmith have even added a text option to his multi-destination teleporters
[09:35] Agatha Macbeth nods
[09:35] Moon Adamant: oh, that's interesting too
[09:35] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): which was not an easy hack btw
[09:36] Moon Adamant: so this text ca be loaded into the teleporters
[09:36] Tori (tori.landau): So sorry, I have to go. See you all again soon °͜°
[09:36] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): <--guinea pig
[09:36] Agatha Macbeth: An excellent innovation
[09:36] Rosie Gray: bye Tori ㋡
[09:36] Moon Adamant: see you Tori
[09:36] Rosie Gray: nice to see you
[09:36] Lilith Ivory: bye Tori
[09:36] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): bye Tori
[09:36] Agatha Macbeth: Be well Tori
[09:36] Breila Jenvieve: Take care Tori
[09:36] Lilith Ivory: great you could join us
[09:36] Sudane Erato: bye!
[09:36] Rosie Gray has 20 minutes only
[09:37] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): btw Gentle Heron is the access advisor for Eduverse
[09:37] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): I'm done
[09:37] Agatha Macbeth: Great
[09:37] Lilith Ivory: I would suggest till next meeting we look for places that age good to have a sign so we can agree on a selection next meeting
[09:37] Moon Adamant: oh, good to know!
[09:37] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): you can postpone further discussion of this to next time no worries
[09:37] Breila Jenvieve: I wonder if Gentle would consult on this.
[09:37] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): I am sure
[09:38] Rosie Gray: I think that the Landmark Descriptions document is a good place to start with locations
[09:38] Sudane Erato: that document is great!
[09:38] Rosie Gray: everyone on the LUC can make comments on that
[09:38] Moon Adamant: some are already pointed out in it, I agree
[09:38] Lilith Ivory: yes but we need some for the other regions too
[09:38] Rosie Gray: and it really needs filling out
[09:38] Sudane Erato: yes
[09:39] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): alas I need to get off my sore butt
[09:39] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): and leave y'all in peace
[09:39] Sudane Erato: feel better!
[09:39] Agatha Macbeth rubs Kyoko's back
[09:39] Rosie Gray: bye Kyoko
[09:39] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): working on it
[09:39] Rosie Gray: hpe you feel better soon
[09:39] Breila Jenvieve: Take care of you!
[09:39] Lilith Ivory: get better soon Kyoko
[09:39] Moon Adamant: get better soon!!
[09:39] Kyoko Barzane (samara.barzane): thanks
[09:41] Lilith Ivory: ok, can we agree we look at Tors spreadsheet and add descriptions and see if we find other locations that might fit?
[09:41] Breila Jenvieve: Would you recommend another Google doc for this?
[09:41] Moon Adamant: I agree
[09:41] Rosie Gray: we already have one, Breila, and you were sent an invite to it
[09:41] Lilith Ivory: I would say we work on the google doc Tor has already started
[09:41] Sudane Erato: we should include the Ompahlos in LA
[09:42] Breila Jenvieve: I have seen that, and that's fine.
[09:42] Rosie Gray: oh yes, Sudane!
[09:42] Lilith Ivory: YES
[09:42] Lilith Ivory: and the meermaid temple
[09:42] Rosie Gray: yes, lots of places to add
[09:42] Sudane Erato: well... thats on private land
[09:42] Moon Adamant: oh, the mermaid temple I haven't found yet lol
[09:42] Lilith Ivory: oh I didnt realise lol
[09:42] Sudane Erato: and Kyoko wants only public
[09:42] Lilith Ivory: naw that was Lilith who only wanted public lol
[09:42] Rosie Gray: it should be public land places
[09:42] Sudane Erato: although the Monastery is private land
[09:43] Rosie Gray: otherwise they change
[09:43] Lilith Ivory: perhaps we can make an exception for the Monastery
[09:43] Rosie Gray: yes, agree on that since it is so significant
[09:43] Lilith Ivory: and the garden of peace
[09:43] Sudane Erato: I'll volunteer to do a description of the Omphalos
[09:43] Sudane Erato: yes, true
[09:43] Rosie Gray: great
[09:44] Breila Jenvieve: Perhaps you could start with public lands and bring on private ones later.
[09:44] Moon Adamant: or just propose places, but mark Public/Private and decide on a one-by-one basis
[09:45] Moon Adamant: Monastery must be in it, I totally agree
[09:45] Breila Jenvieve: That's a good idea
[09:45] Rosie Gray nods
[09:45] Lilith Ivory: in Tors document are a LOT of locations and we might need to agree on a selection
[09:45] Moon Adamant: we can make a forum poll
[09:45] Rosie Gray: but that document is also good for website, About Land, etc.
[09:46] Rosie Gray: once good descriptions are there, they can be adapted as necessary
[09:46] Lilith Ivory: right
[09:46] Moon Adamant: exactly Rosie
[09:46] Rosie Gray: I will try to write an introductory paragraph for the 3 missing regions
[09:46] Lilith Ivory: thank you
[09:46] Rosie Gray: but please feel free to suggest edits to them, and to add more specifics
[09:48] Lilith Ivory nods
[09:48] Lilith Ivory: anything more to discuss here for the moment?
[09:49] Moon Adamant: I don't think so, we moved the discussion to the shared doc
[09:49] Lilith Ivory: yes
[09:49] Lilith Ivory: in this case lets go forward to the next item
[09:50] Lilith Ivory: Best landing spots for CDS:
Research paid locations abd re-organise them
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sGD ... FA1nA/edit
[09:50] Moon Adamant: hmm, that link is broken
[09:50] Lilith Ivory: this item looks very similar to the topic before at the first look but in fact it is different
[09:50] Lilith Ivory: its your google doc Moon, do you have the link handy?
[09:51] Moon Adamant: oh
[09:51] Agatha Macbeth: 'Page not found'
[09:51] Breila Jenvieve: That's why I suggested perhaps a different Google doc for signage.
[09:51] Moon Adamant: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sGD ... FA1nA/edit
[09:51] Lilith Ivory: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sGD ... FA1nA/edit
[09:52] Lilith Ivory: those are two different docs
[09:52] Lilith Ivory: the doc about the signage and the doc about the classifieds
[09:52] Agatha Macbeth: Ah that looks familiar
[09:52] Moon Adamant: yeah, but this is a bit different indeed
[09:52] Moon Adamant: THOUGH
[09:52] Sudane Erato: that works
[09:52] Moon Adamant: for consistency, and considering Tor's texts are so much better, we could copy them to here
[09:53] Breila Jenvieve: Oh, I see, I didn't realize there already was a signage doc.
[09:53] Breila Jenvieve: I'm catching up, lol
[09:53] Lilith Ivory: I think with the classifieds we need to decide first if all of them are set on locations that are really worth spending 30 L$ per week on them
[09:53] Moon Adamant: uh tricky
[09:53] Agatha Macbeth: Bye Sandy
[09:53] Lilith Ivory: we might be able to think about better locations to spend this money
[09:53] Lilith Ivory: bye sandy
[09:53] Sudane Erato: BTW, Sandy just purchased land in CN
[09:54] Lilith Ivory: YAY!
[09:54] Agatha Macbeth: Aww
[09:54] Rosie Gray: yes I was just talking in IM to her about it ㋡
[09:54] Sudane Erato:
[09:54] Lilith Ivory: awesome
[09:54] Rosie Gray: well she actually paid the tierbox first and now is gone to purchase the land
[09:54] Moon Adamant: awww yay!
[09:54] Lilith Ivory: hehe Sandy has long arms to buy in CN while sitting here
[09:54] Moon Adamant: these meetings WORK!
[09:55] Rosie Gray:
[09:55] Rosie Gray: an experienced SLr!
[09:55] Agatha Macbeth: And WB
[09:55] Rosie Gray: wb, Sandy
[09:55] Sudane Erato: I have to leave in a sec... but this land point business is important. Since we will tend also to PAY for the listing attached
[09:55] Moon Adamant: Sandy, welcome back... and welcome!
[09:55] Agatha Macbeth nods
[09:55] Lilith Ivory: welcome as a citizen of CDS
[09:56] Agatha Macbeth: That's a round 70 now then
[09:56] Lilith Ivory: perhaps we should table this topic till next meeting when you can be here Sudane
[09:56] Sudane Erato: In a bare bones way, its our default marketing
[09:56] Sudane Erato: so we should make the best of it
[09:56] Moon Adamant: yup
[09:56] Agatha Macbeth: Agreed
[09:56] Lilith Ivory: I totally agree and thats why I put it on the agenda
[09:57] Rosie Gray: I have to leave shortly too
[09:57] Moon Adamant: I make also the point... it's there on the docs too... that we do land at the strangest places
[09:57] Sandy Burgess: Thank you
[09:57] Lilith Ivory: lets table that topic till next meeting, shall we?
[09:57] Sudane Erato: ok, good
[09:57] Lilith Ivory smiles
[09:57] Sudane Erato: and we can adjourn
[09:57] Moon Adamant: even yesterday I TPed through the world map and fell in a blind alley behind the Kirche
[09:57] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[09:57] Sudane Erato: but don't let me make you adjourn
[09:58] Lilith Ivory: I was thinking Moon has a lot to say as AOB
[09:58] Moon Adamant: wiat wait AOB
[09:58] Moon Adamant:
[09:58] Lilith Ivory: are you available on saturdays 8:30 Sudane or are there times when RL interferes?
[09:58] Sudane Erato: Moon can always tell me what she's thinking
[09:58] Moon Adamant: I always do, that'«s a fact
[09:58] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[09:58] Sudane Erato: this time is good...
[09:58] Lilith Ivory: good
[09:59] Sudane Erato: I think... life gets so complex
[09:59] Lilith Ivory: I would say in three weeks again ... if there is not an RA meeting
[09:59] Sudane Erato: kk... must run... bye all ... and ty!
[09:59] Rosie Gray: bye Sudane
[09:59] Agatha Macbeth: TC Sudane
[09:59] Breila Jenvieve: Bye Sudane
[09:59] Moon Adamant: talk later
[10:00] Lilith Ivory: bye Sudane
[10:00] Lilith Ivory: next item AOB
[10:00] Lilith Ivory: Moon you have the floor
[10:00] Moon Adamant: yay
[10:00] Lilith Ivory: I am curious lol
[10:00] Moon Adamant: oh, it's simple
[10:01] Moon Adamant: as you all know I have done a new build for next to the MoCA
[10:01] Moon Adamant: and have been looking too at CN because of tunnels
[10:01] Moon Adamant: the point being, I shouldn't be looking at stuff but there you go
[10:01] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[10:01] Moon Adamant: So, considering that
[10:02] Moon Adamant: there has been some will to do something about the MoCA building
[10:02] Lilith Ivory: right
[10:03] Moon Adamant: I have been looking at it and I think I can transform it (some caveat here on technical issues) to an easier to work with building, while keeping its forms and aesthetics
[10:04] Rosie Gray: apologies, but I have to run
[10:04] Rosie Gray: bye all!
[10:04] Lilith Ivory: bye Rosie
[10:04] Agatha Macbeth: Be well Rosie
[10:04] Moon Adamant: Cheers Rosie
[10:04] Lilith Ivory: sounds like a good idea Moon
[10:04] Moon Adamant: as for the CN theatre... it has no perms atm
[10:04] Lilith Ivory: you will have to ask the chancellor tho I think
[10:04] Lilith Ivory: right
[10:05] Lilith Ivory: do you suggest to rebuild it too?
[10:05] Moon Adamant: and has some functional issues too, and I think I can create a new building that solves those
[10:05] Lilith Ivory: awesome
[10:05] Agatha Macbeth: Yay
[10:06] Lilith Ivory: again it needs to be proposed to Tor
[10:06] Moon Adamant: I am not sure to what point we are talking about adapting or rebuilding or replacing
[10:06] Moon Adamant: yes, I wanted to ask what is the process
[10:06] Lilith Ivory: that fits well as I would like to rebuild the house at the forum in CN with we had talked about in our faction meeting
[10:06] Lilith Ivory: I did the first floor already but stopped as it got a tenant
[10:07] Moon Adamant: which btw?
[10:07] Moon Adamant: because there's 3 vacant and Gwyn's plot
[10:07] Lilith Ivory: the one we talked about beside Gwyns store
[10:07] Moon Adamant: ok
[10:07] Lilith Ivory: I can show you but dont have the parcel number in mind atm
[10:07] Sandy Burgess: Sorry, had a phone call
[10:07] Moon Adamant: yeah, but no worries, now I know which
[10:08] Lilith Ivory: good
[10:08] Moon Adamant: it's ok Sandy
[10:08] Lilith Ivory: I did the build that is here right now and would like to renew it myself as I have finished the cabaret
[10:08] Lilith Ivory: if thats ok
[10:08] Second Life: Tori Landau gave you Villa Estiva (Tori's place).
[10:08] Moon Adamant: lol, of course
[10:09] Moon Adamant: so we just ask Tor?
[10:09] Lilith Ivory: yes exactly
[10:09] Moon Adamant: I can make a small argument in favour of both
[10:09] Lilith Ivory: yes
[10:10] Lilith Ivory: there were attempts to rebuild the MOCA already so you just need to ask for permission
[10:10] Moon Adamant: as said, you all do not want me to look at things for a long time
[10:10] Moon Adamant: yes, I know
[10:10] Moon Adamant: BUT
[10:10] Moon Adamant: btw
[10:10] Sandy Burgess: Problem is he has enough money to push it and SL is either unknown to people or has a "grannies game" reputation
[10:10] Lilith Ivory: and rebuilding the theatre sounds good too as it is old and we work on the caves anyway if given permission
[10:11] Moon Adamant: this is really important: I LOVE the MoCA, so I will try to keep it looking as it is today, but with some changes
[10:11] Lilith Ivory: what do you mean Sandy?
[10:12] Lilith Ivory: thats good about the Moca
[10:12] Sandy Burgess: The Suckerberg posting
[10:13] Lilith Ivory: ah
[10:13] Sandy Burgess: What is MoCA?
[10:13] Moon Adamant: oh, I need some catching up
[10:13] Lilith Ivory: the museum we have here in Neufreistadt
[10:13] Moon Adamant: Sandy, MoCA is the Museum of Contemporary Art
[10:13] Sandy Burgess: Ah
[10:13] Moon Adamant: to your left when you leave this building
[10:14] Agatha Macbeth always confuses it with mocap
[10:14] Moon Adamant: tall building
[10:14] Moon Adamant: it's the oldest building in NFS at the moment
[10:14] Sandy Burgess nods. Mocap was what came to my mind too
[10:14] Lilith Ivory: it takes time to get familiar with all our shortend names lol
[10:14] Agatha Macbeth: 
[10:14] Moon Adamant: it's been there since uh 2005?
[10:14] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[10:14] Sandy Burgess: Abbrevs are a pita
[10:14] Lilith Ivory: it does deserve a facelift
[10:14] Lilith Ivory: given from a loving hand
[10:15] Breila Jenvieve: It hasn't been updated since then?
[10:15] Moon Adamant: yup, but it's a great building!
[10:15] Moon Adamant: no Bre
[10:15] Sandy Burgess: I stumble over them in my job all the time
[10:15] Agatha Macbeth: What I call a museum
[10:15] Moon Adamant: no perms for years and years
[10:15] Breila Jenvieve: Hm
[10:15] Moon Adamant: and it's a tough building
[10:16] Lilith Ivory: well, all but the sculpture on top can be taken into inventory
[10:16] Lilith Ivory: I think Sudane has perissions
[10:16] Moon Adamant: tough site, tough footprint
[10:16] Agatha Macbeth: Who built it originally?
[10:16] Moon Adamant: Keltrien hmmm
[10:16] Moon Adamant: Keltrien Baker
[10:17] Agatha Macbeth looks them up
[10:17] Agatha Macbeth: Interesting
[10:18] Lilith Ivory: at our first atempt to rebuild the MoCa the fact that the sculpture on the roof cant be moved was a challenge too
[10:18] Moon Adamant: yes, because it locks that level
[10:19] Lilith Ivory: (we even have a law saying this sculpture cant be returned)
[10:19] Agatha Macbeth: Wow
[10:19] Lilith Ivory: yea lol
[10:19] Lilith Ivory: its in the MoCa law
[10:19] Moon Adamant: it's been there too for uh over 15 years
[10:19] Breila Jenvieve: It'd help if it could be moved a bit
[10:20] Lilith Ivory: cant as we dont have the permissions
[10:20] Moon Adamant: no perms
[10:20] Moon Adamant: we work around it
[10:20] Lilith Ivory: yes
[10:20] Breila Jenvieve: Sure
[10:20] Agatha Macbeth: Never knew CDS had protected buildings :p
[10:21] Moon Adamant: ok, no more on my side, except that I'll coord with the CN tunnels, of course
[10:21] Lilith Ivory: cool
[10:21] Lilith Ivory: shall we meet in three weeks again? at sept 10?
[10:21] Moon Adamant: in fact, if you look at the draft, you will notice I already placed a tunnel going to a stage trapdoor
[10:21] Moon Adamant: sure!
[10:21] Lilith Ivory: hehe cool
[10:22] Agatha Macbeth: Great
[10:22] Lilith Ivory: does that work for all of you?
[10:22] Agatha Macbeth: For me yes
[10:22] Moon Adamant: we can do Hamlet and get one of your zombies engaged Lil
[10:22] Breila Jenvieve: Should be fine
[10:22] Lilith Ivory: hehe yes
[10:22] Agatha Macbeth: Same time?
[10:22] Lilith Ivory whispers: I found some pretty neat Zombie Avatars on MP
[10:23] Moon Adamant: oh gosh
[10:23] Lilith Ivory: I would say so as this time is best for Sudane
[10:23] Moon Adamant gets her calendar app
[10:23] Agatha Macbeth: Ok
[10:23] Lilith Ivory: ... and I do need to get my shirts done for all bodies
[10:24] Moon Adamant: yup
[10:24] Lilith Ivory smiles
[10:25] Sandy Burgess: Can I rez in the new house already or do I need to do anything before?
[10:25] Breila Jenvieve: Move to adjourn?
[10:26] Lilith Ivory: yes I second
[10:26] Moon Adamant: second
[10:26] Lilith Ivory: (was just waiting for all to agree on sept 10
[10:26] Agatha Macbeth: Agreed
[10:26] Breila Jenvieve: Yes
[10:26] Moon Adamant: and agreed
[10:27] Lilith Ivory: aye on that date and adjourn