Agenda
Representative Assembly Meeting
Sunday, August 11, 2024, at 12:00 PM SLT
Attending: Anjoux Landau Herbit, Rosie Gray, Jerry McNally, Almut Brunswick, Gwyneth Llewelyn
Also attending: Agatha Macbeth, Tor Karlsvalt (12:22)
1 Welcome and Apologies
[12:03] Jerry McNally: The first item is 1 Welcome and Apologies
[12:03] Agatha Macbeth: Well you've got one
[12:03] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): Hi Agatha
[12:04] Jerry McNally: I thought we'd be down an RA member this evening, but we seem to have a full house, so that's good
[12:04] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): before we begin I'd just like to mention that I'm trying a new speech to text solution tonight and I'm hoping it might be more effective than dragon.
[12:05] Gwyneth Llewelyn: So far so good indeed, Anj! 
[12:05] Rosie Gray: not me
[12:05] Almut Brunswick: Nope
[12:05] Gwyneth Llewelyn: The Exec was partying late tonight ㋡
[12:05] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): Nor I
[12:05] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I mean yesterday night
[12:05] Jerry McNally: Ok, let's continue then
[12:05] Almut Brunswick: Yes, I have seen his alt dancing with another alt
[12:05] Gwyneth Llewelyn: so was I, thus my even-more-frequent-typos
2 Administrative Business
2.1 Approval of the Agenda: viewtopic.php?t=10686
viewtopic.php?t=10686
[12:06] Rosie Gray: Motion to approve the Agenda
[12:06] Jerry McNally: Does anyone have anything they want to add that's not already on the agenda?
[12:06] Almut Brunswick: Second
[12:06] Jerry McNally: Guessing not
[12:06] Jerry McNally: Let's vote then
[12:06] Almut Brunswick: Aye
[12:06] Gwyneth Llewelyn: aye!
[12:06] Rosie Gray: aye
[12:06] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): I yes
[12:06] Jerry McNally: Aye
[12:07] Jerry McNally: Thanks, motion carried
2.2 Review and Approval of the Minutes of RA Meeting July 27, 2024: viewtopic.php?t=10684
[12:07] Jerry McNally: Thanks again to Almut for the excellent minutes
[12:07] Almut Brunswick: Aww blushes
[12:07] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): motion to approve blessed. Minutes
[12:07] Jerry McNally: Thanks Anj
[12:07] Rosie Gray: second
[12:07] Gwyneth Llewelyn: (incoming exec)
[12:07] Jerry McNally: Thanks Rosie
[12:08] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): lol sorry
[12:08] Rosie Gray: hello Moon
[12:08] Agatha Macbeth: Hi Moonie
[12:08] Gwyneth Llewelyn chuckles
[12:08] Jerry McNally: Let's vote on the approval of the minutes
[12:08] Tor Karlsvalt is online.
[12:08] Gwyneth Llewelyn: hi Moonie
[12:08] Moon Adamant: hello all ㋡
[12:08] Jerry McNally: Hi Moon!
[12:08] Rosie Gray: aye
[12:08] Almut Brunswick: Hello Moon.
[12:08] Almut Brunswick: Aye
[12:08] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): aye
[12:08] Jerry McNally waits for votes from Gwyn
[12:09] Jerry McNally: Aye from me, at least
[12:09] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): How many did she get?
[12:09] Agatha Macbeth: (Maybe she abstained)
[12:09] Gwyneth Llewelyn: So sorry I was just crosschecking some of the links on the minutes .99
[12:09] Gwyneth Llewelyn: just to make sure.... uyou know
[12:09] Gwyneth Llewelyn: But aye from me as well
[12:09] Jerry McNally: Absolutely right
[12:10] Jerry McNally: Super thanks, motion carried
[12:10] Almut Brunswick: Nice excuse:P
[12:10] Rosie Gray: very thorough Gwyneth
[12:10] Jerry McNally: onwards
3 Executive Report (Tor)
[12:10] Jerry McNally: Unless Moon is standing in, let's table this for later
[12:10] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Rosie, rather the contrary 
I should have done that earlier....
[12:10] Moon Adamant: uh Tor tells me he is on his way
[12:10] Rosie Gray: oh good
[12:10] Moon Adamant: no no, carry on ㋡
[12:10] Jerry McNally: ok, let's carry on
[12:22] Jerry McNally: If not, let's move to 3 Executive Report and Tor
[12:22] Jerry McNally: Over to you, Tor
[12:22] Tor Karlsvalt: Thanks
[12:23] Tor Karlsvalt: I am a bit laggy
[12:23] Agatha Macbeth waits for Tor to do his dance
[12:23] Tor Karlsvalt: lol
[12:23] Almut Brunswick: Slowfox at least?
[12:23] Tor Karlsvalt: Not much to report
[12:23] Tor Karlsvalt: We had a wonderful party yesterday.
[12:23] Tor Karlsvalt: The alt party was a success.
[12:23] Tor Karlsvalt: Much enjoyed
[12:23] Almut Brunswick: Yes!
[12:24] Jerry McNally: Thats great!
[12:24] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): was fun
[12:24] Moon Adamant: 
[12:24] Rosie Gray: ㋡
[12:24] Tor Karlsvalt: We have pretty much stayed current with citizens, 87
[12:24] Tor Karlsvalt: Everyone was paid up this morning.
[12:25] Gwyneth Llewelyn: woot
[12:25] Tor Karlsvalt: We are going to nail down oktoverfest very soon.
[12:25] Rosie Gray: oh yay
[12:25] Tor Karlsvalt: atm we think it will start with a Talk like a pirate party.
[12:25] Moon Adamant: 
[12:25] Tor Karlsvalt: hehe
[12:25] Agatha Macbeth: Will there be beer?
[12:25] Jerry McNally: rum?
[12:25] Moon Adamant: :jollyroger
[12:25] Tor Karlsvalt: hehe
[12:25] Almut Brunswick: No, peppermint tea
[12:26] Tor Karlsvalt: well we can go through all the favorite spirits
[12:26] Moon Adamant looks in the emoji folder better
[12:26] Agatha Macbeth: Oh that's nice
[12:26] Tor Karlsvalt likes hot chocolate and peppermint schnapps
[12:26] Moon Adamant: ah, here it is 
[12:26] Agatha Macbeth: Egad
[12:26] Tor Karlsvalt: hehe
[12:26] Tor Karlsvalt: It's great on ski trip
[12:27] Agatha Macbeth: 
[12:27] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Peppermint schnapps?!
[12:27] Gwyneth Llewelyn: lol Agatha
[12:27] Tor Karlsvalt: Well you put it in hot chocolate
[12:27] Gwyneth Llewelyn: & lol Moon
[12:27] Agatha Macbeth: Arrr
[12:27] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Nothing wrong with schnapps in hot chocolate, but...
[12:27] Tor Karlsvalt: I know I keep saying it, but I will apply to be part of the nature collective.
[12:28] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): It doesn't the snaps evaporate?
[12:28] Tor Karlsvalt: lol, drink fast
[12:28] Jerry McNally: What's the nature collective?
[12:28] Gwyneth Llewelyn: That's what I was going to say.... lol
[12:28] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ah
[12:28] Tor Karlsvalt: Oh it is a very popular group in SL.
[12:28] Moon Adamant: https://naturecollectivesl.com/
[12:28] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): Do they drink snaps
[12:28] Tor Karlsvalt: They promote creation of natural spaces
[12:29] Agatha Macbeth: Sounds good
[12:29] Jerry McNally: Sounds like a great fit
[12:29] Tor Karlsvalt: We might get a little buz.
[12:29] Agatha Macbeth: 
[12:29] Gwyneth Llewelyn: That depends on how much Schnapps you put into it...
[12:29] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Sory, go on lol
[12:29] Tor Karlsvalt: I do note however, that if you tour those member sims, you might see some good ideas for our own.
[12:29] Tor Karlsvalt: hehe
[12:30] Jerry McNally: Interesting, for sure
[12:30] Tor Karlsvalt: Perhaps we can get approved before Oktoberfest.
[12:30] Gwyneth Llewelyn: And they've been around for quite a while, too.
[12:30] Tor Karlsvalt: yes
[12:30] Gwyneth Llewelyn: That would be awesome!
[12:31] Tor Karlsvalt: We probably will be required to have some of their signage around.
[12:31] Tor Karlsvalt: Noting big, just a logo
[12:31] Rosie Gray: do you have some landmarks for the you can share, Tor?
[12:31] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Good!
[12:31] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Rosie, you can get them from their site, I believe....
[12:32] Moon Adamant: check Explorer List o their website
[12:32] Tor Karlsvalt: here is their Discord https://discord.gg/aw9sFsZd
[12:32] Gwyneth Llewelyn: https://naturecollectivesl.com/explorer-list/main-list/
[12:32] Moon Adamant: it's sorted out by themes, e.g. https://naturecollectivesl.com/explorer-list/forest/
[12:32] Tor Karlsvalt: It's quite an active group
[12:32] Gwyneth Llewelyn: (lots of members mind you)
[12:33] Tor Karlsvalt: Might be good for our equestrians too
[12:33] Gwyneth Llewelyn: The fun bit is that they even have adult regions on the list... lol.... talk about "nature2
[12:33] Tor Karlsvalt: Jerry has mentioned he would like a government Q&A.
[12:34] Rosie Gray: thank you
[12:34] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Aye!
[12:34] Tor Karlsvalt: Probably do as in the re recent past, have a party connected with it
[12:34] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Oh YAY \o/
[12:34] Jerry McNally: We've got that on the agenda at 6.1 but happy to mention it now
[12:34] Tor Karlsvalt: Just need to get a date. I think we are flexible
[12:34] Gwyneth Llewelyn nods
[12:34] Tor Karlsvalt: it would be best if the SC is present
[12:35] Tor Karlsvalt: otherwise done.
[12:35] Jerry McNally: I did ask Calli for some input, but nothing back yet
[12:35] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Is it better to do it outside the CDS20B mega-event, or do it before?
[12:35] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I mean, inside or outside
[12:35] Gwyneth Llewelyn: lol
[12:35] Jerry McNally: Thanks Tor, that was great, especially the part about the Nature Collective
[12:35] Tor Karlsvalt kicks his bottle of schnapps further back under his seat.
[12:36] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): ... And reaches for the Polo packet
[12:36] Rosie Gray: ㋡
[12:36] Jerry McNally: Holding the Q&A event as close to a popular event as we can makes sense, as the Q&A events themselves aren't drawing the crowds
[12:36] Almut Brunswick: Not to mention the mass demonstrations
[12:37] Tor Karlsvalt: lol
[12:37] Gwyneth Llewelyn chuckles
[12:37] Moon Adamant: the strategy of holding them immediately before a party has worked well recently
[12:37] Tor Karlsvalt: yes, last term we actually had some questions.
[12:37] Jerry McNally: ("mass demonstrations" are a touchy point in RL UK at the moment...)
[12:38] Rosie Gray: indeed, jerry
[12:38] Tor Karlsvalt: yes, they are Jerry. Thanks to Elon
[12:38] Moon Adamant: and we can talk about CDS to the people attending the party
[12:38] Almut Brunswick: Elon Mass....
[12:39] Jerry McNally: So, just to wrap up item 6.1 then, shall we say that discussions are ongoing between the RA, Exec and SC, and leave it at that for now?
[12:39] Tor Karlsvalt: yes
[12:39] Jerry McNally: I think we're all agreeing on the need to hold them
[12:39] Jerry McNally: near larger events, I mean
[12:39] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): yes
[12:39] Tor Karlsvalt: They are useful. Esp for new citizens or the recently curious.
[12:39] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well sure, but I'd suggest putting a deadline to agree on that item
[12:40] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Or else we risk having to hold the Q&A on the Talk Like a Pirate Day
[12:40] Gwyneth Llewelyn:
[12:40] Jerry McNally: Good point Gwyn, let's say by the time of the next RA
[12:40] Tor Karlsvalt: LOL
[12:40] Jerry McNally: to decide, I mean
[12:40] Tor Karlsvalt wounders how that would go
[12:40] Moon Adamant: arrr 
[12:41] Gwyneth Llewelyn: It would be fantastic
[12:41] Agatha Macbeth: We'd all be sunk probably
[12:41] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): Q and A in pirate speak?
[12:41] Gwyneth Llewelyn: But alas, you can agree on that, later, if you wish; it's just that we ought to have settled on a date
[12:41] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Anj — exactly!
[12:42] Gwyneth Llewelyn: So, aye, a motion to set the deadline for discussing on a date until the next RA meeting.
[12:42] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): So proposed
[12:42] Moon Adamant: the CDS calendar is updated, btw, if it helps
[12:42] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Or maybe it doesn't need a motion... consults her Robert's Rules
[12:42] Jerry McNally: Not sure we need a motion for that, to be honest, but is there a second for it?
[12:42] Tor Karlsvalt writes an action idem
[12:42] Rosie Gray: hehe
[12:43] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit) withdraws
[12:43] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): proposal
[12:43] Rosie Gray: I don't think setting a date needs a motion... unless you aren't sure that it will be followed through without one!
[12:43] Gwyneth Llewelyn: There was, Jerry, from Anj
[12:43] Gwyneth Llewelyn: but withdrawn!
[12:43] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit) wasn't prepared to stand against Roberts rules
[12:43] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Motion to discuss if we need a motion to set a date...?
[12:44] Jerry McNally: really?
[12:44] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ok, forget it
[12:44] Gwyneth Llewelyn: No! lol
4 Artisan Guild Report (Rosie)
[12:10] Jerry McNally: Do you have a report Rosi
[12:11] Rosie Gray: yes
[12:11] Rosie Gray: first, sorry I haven't got the transcript or minutes of the last meeting done yet
[12:11] Agatha Macbeth: Greetings Chancellor
[12:11] Rosie Gray: been very busy in RL lately!
[12:11] Tor Karlsvalt: Hi everybody
[12:11] Jerry McNally: Hi Tor
[12:12] Rosie Gray: there's not much to report really from the meeting though
[12:12] Rosie Gray: hi Tor
[12:12] Jerry McNally: Were at item 4, Artisan Guild report, you're after that
[12:12] Rosie Gray: we did talk about Archie's filing system and what he has in inventory
[12:12] Rosie Gray: and we worked some more on the updating spreadsheet
[12:13] Rosie Gray: that's about it
[12:13] Jerry McNally: I'm sure that's plenty of work in just that one line!
[12:13] Rosie Gray: unless anyone has any questions
[12:13] Almut Brunswick raises her finger
[12:13] Jerry McNally: Thanks. Anything from anyone
[12:13] Jerry McNally: Almut?
[12:14] Almut Brunswick: Yes, since I missed the meeting due to an RL obligation, I allowed myself to present the NFS street name survey in the Forum
[12:14] Rosie Gray: oh yes, I saw that Almut
[12:14] Jerry McNally: Yes I saw that, very interesting!
[12:14] Rosie Gray: ㋡
[12:14] Tor Karlsvalt makes a note to check the forum.
[12:15] Rosie Gray: If we update the street names, I think we would need to have executive approval on that
[12:15] Almut Brunswick: Let me add the link here. Done.
[12:15] Jerry McNally: I'm looking for the link now but don't have it to hand
[12:15] Rosie Gray: and even give our citizens a chance to comment first
[12:15] Almut Brunswick: viewtopic.php?p=52078&sid=e5a85aa2a0591 ... 82f#p52078
[12:15] Rosie Gray: but personally, I'd be in favour of 'fixing' them
[12:16] Almut Brunswick: Katzenfurz is Rosie's favorite name 
[12:16] Rosie Gray: haha
[12:16] Agatha Macbeth: ^.^
[12:16] Jerry McNally: Would "fixing" the names be an operational matter the AG/Exec could just get on with, rather than a strategic one requiring a lengthy debate?
[12:16] Jerry McNally: I would hope the former
[12:17] Rosie Gray: I should think so
[12:17] Jerry McNally: but anyway, that's for the AG/Exec, I think
[12:17] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): It I just ask what would be the fix?
[12:17] Jerry McNally: Spelling corrections, I think, to make them work as correct Germanic terms
[12:18] Gwyneth Llewelyn: (just a silly comment, "Catfahrt" was the srange name of one of the founders, Catfahrt Grayson)
[12:18] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): I understand thank you
[12:18] Rosie Gray: yes some of them are fake-German
[12:18] Rosie Gray: and a mix of fake-German and English
[12:18] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Blame it on Ulrika & Kendra
[12:18] Tor Karlsvalt: lol
[12:18] Gwyneth Llewelyn: They were as German as I'm Welsh lol
[12:18] Rosie Gray: hehe
[12:18] Tor Karlsvalt: Ulrika and Kendra names streets after themselves?
[12:18] Moon Adamant: TY for the corrections and suggestions Almut ㋡
[12:19] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Tor: no, I believe that they named each other's street! lol
[12:19] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I can't remember really
[12:19] Tor Karlsvalt: yes, thanks Almut, but I confess I will miss chuckling over Catfart.
[12:19] Tor Karlsvalt: LOL
[12:19] Moon Adamant: all the founders had a street named for them
[12:19] Almut Brunswick: Katzenfurz means the same, just in correct German
[12:20] Gwyneth Llewelyn: The point is that the founders were supposed to have a street .... aye, as Moon said
[12:20] Moon Adamant: it was something like: who was in the group in Dec 2004
[12:20] Gwyneth Llewelyn nods
[12:20] Tor Karlsvalt: hehe
[12:20] Rosie Gray: I don't think anyone is proposing to change their namesake streets
[12:20] Jerry McNally: I agree Rosie
[12:20] Almut Brunswick: Not at all
[12:20] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Oh you can change mine lol
[12:20] Tor Karlsvalt mulls a proclamation for TorUberBahn
[12:20] Moon Adamant: i was just hanging by by then and that's why you don't have a Mondstrasse ㋡
[12:20] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Although Gwynethring would be much nicer, I think.... hehe
[12:21] Almut Brunswick: Gwynethring
[12:21] Moon Adamant: Gwynethring sounds awesome ㋡
[12:21] Moon Adamant: sounds Tolkien!
[12:21] Agatha Macbeth: Lord of the Gwynethrings
[12:21] Gwyneth Llewelyn: or Wagner!
[12:21] Agatha Macbeth: Snap
[12:21] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Exactly, Agatha
[12:21] Jerry McNally: Sounds like a verb for god knows what!
[12:21] Agatha Macbeth: Now you're doing it...
[12:21] Gwyneth Llewelyn chuckles
[12:22] Jerry McNally: OK, anyway, moving on
[12:22] Jerry McNally: Are there any more questions for Rosie and the AG report?
[12:22] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): Nope
5 Old Business
[12:44] Jerry McNally: Ok, let's jump back up the agenda to 5 Old Business
[12:44] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I trust your lead, Mr LRA
[12:44] Jerry McNally: I've a feeling that 5.1 and 5.2 will also be "in progress" like the last item
5.1 Update on Amendment of RA Rules of Procedure: viewtopic.php?t=10677
[12:44] Jerry McNally: 5.1 Update on Amendment of RA Rules of Procedure: viewtopic.php?t=10677
[12:45] Jerry McNally: There hasn't been any further input from RA colleagues on that thread, so I propose to adopt the text and copy across to the website
[12:45] Jerry McNally: Any comments?
[12:46] Rosie Gray: Hmmm...
[12:46] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well.....
[12:46] Jerry McNally: I remember Almut pointing out the idea of numbering the paragraphs
[12:46] Rosie Gray: sorry I just haven't had time
[12:46] Jerry McNally: You already did a load of work on this Rosie
[12:46] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): nor have I to be honest
[12:46] Gwyneth Llewelyn remains silent.
[12:46] Almut Brunswick: Yes, and that the Chancellor election thing is a bit more like sticking some legal band aid on the paragraphs in question.
[12:47] Jerry McNally: Gwyneth, do you have something (succinct) to say?
[12:47] Rosie Gray grins
[12:47] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I have! I say: "no, I don't"
[12:47] Gwyneth Llewelyn: There, that was succint!
[12:47] Jerry McNally: Thanks for your input
[12:48] Rosie Gray:
[12:48] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I can elaborate: "No, I have nothing, succint or not, to say"
[12:48] Tor Karlsvalt:
[12:48] Tor Karlsvalt: LOL
[12:48] Rosie Gray: actually I do agree that it seems pretty good as is now
[12:48] Gwyneth Llewelyn nods it does, doesn't it*
[12:48] Tor Karlsvalt: I knew Gwyn needed a few more words
[12:48] Rosie Gray: hehe
[12:48] Jerry McNally: I agree Rosie, So, I'll copy across to the RA area of the CDS website
[12:48] Gwyneth Llewelyn chuckles
5.2 Update on Review of CDSL 13-05 Chancellor Election Act and/or All Election-related Acts: viewtopic.php?t=10676
[12:48] Jerry McNally: Let's move to 5.2 Update on Review of CDSL 13-05 Chancellor Election Act and/or All Election-related Acts: viewtopic.php?t=10676
[12:48] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): not
[12:49] Jerry McNally: I think this one is "in progress" too
[12:49] Rosie Gray: aah, THIS is the one I haven't had time to reflect on
[12:49] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Even Tor gave up on us.... hehe
[12:49] Jerry McNally: I like Almut's idea of "merge all currently separate election-related acts in one universal election act"
[12:49] Jerry McNally: but understand that that isn't something that can be done quickly
[12:50] Gwyneth Llewelyn: That's why we've been dragging this along for decades... now,literally so!
[12:50] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I actually totally agree with Almut on this!
[12:51] Almut Brunswick: But we should follow Tan's suggestion, arrange all acts in question on the website, analyze them and then creating the "big new one" from it.
[12:51] Rosie Gray nods in agreement also
[12:51] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I mean, aye on rewriting everything from scratch!
[12:51] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Sure, of course
[12:51] Tor Karlsvalt: That would make things easier.
[12:51] Almut Brunswick: The Wahlrechtserneuerungsuniversalgesetz
[12:51] Jerry McNally: For my part, I wanted to create a better way of presenting all the laws on the website, using tags and so on, and that work continues too. I shall have something to show people on the forum by the next RA meeting
[12:52] Agatha Macbeth: Bless you
[12:52] Gwyneth Llewelyn: That would be awesome
[12:52] Jerry McNally: I don't know what that is Almut
[12:52] Gwyneth Llewelyn: And hopefully also quite useful
[12:52] Gwyneth Llewelyn: lol @ Almut
[12:52] Almut Brunswick: Wahlrechtserneuerungsuniversalgesetz = The Universal Election Law Renovation Act
[12:52] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): is it something that can be achieved in a single ARA term though if not , if there's something we can put in place to ensure it be carried through to the next term as necessary
[12:52] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Don't forget to add an acronym
[12:53] Rosie Gray: well that just trips off the old tongue!
[12:53] Gwyneth Llewelyn: See, Anj, that's true wisdom!
[12:53] Almut Brunswick: So in German, you can say it with just one word
[12:53] Jerry McNally hands Almut a big bag of space bars for her keyboard
[12:53] Tor Karlsvalt notes that a by-election census is required on Aug 30.
[12:54] Jerry McNally: So, the work continues. Can I urge people to make use of the Forums for ongoing debate?
[12:54] Jerry McNally: Or maybe even Discord as a mechanism to move this on quicker?
[12:55] Jerry McNally takes silence as consent
[12:55] Rosie Gray nods
[12:55] Rosie Gray: I will try!
6 New Business
6.1 Scheduling the Next Government Question Time Event: https://cdsdemocracy.org/governance/law ... -time-act/
6.2 Suggestions for New Recipients of the Order of Anzere: https://cdsdemocracy.org/governance/law ... nzere-act/
[12:55] Jerry McNally: We already discussed 6.1, and here's my first typo, a second 6.1 has appeared on the agenda
[12:56] Jerry McNally: 6.2 Suggestions for New Recipients of the Order of Anzere: https://cdsdemocracy.org/governance/law ... nzere-act/
[12:56] Gwyneth Llewelyn chuckles
[12:56] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Right!
[12:56] Jerry McNally: I will hang my head in shame directly after this meeting about that
[12:56] Gwyneth Llewelyn: LOL
[12:56] Rosie Gray: hehe
[12:56] Almut Brunswick: JERRY! How could THAT happen?
[12:56] Rosie Gray: oh, wasn't there a suggestion from someone at last meeting?
[12:56] Gwyneth Llewelyn giggles
[12:57] Jerry McNally: but regardless, last meeting we all thought it would be a great idea to recognise the the MoCA curator in a more formal way
[12:57] Gwyneth Llewelyn: There was, there was
[12:57] Tor Karlsvalt: Blame AI
[12:57] Rosie Gray: yes!
[12:57] Rosie Gray: and I would also like to propose Sandy for an award
[12:57] Agatha Macbeth: Yay
[12:57] Gwyneth Llewelyn: It's fair )
[12:57] Rosie Gray: for all her work on the BBB stuff!
[12:57] Gwyneth Llewelyn: true!
[12:57] Jerry McNally: That's great! What is the mechanism for this process?
[12:58] Rosie Gray: well, we, the RA, decide!
[12:58] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Motion, and vote
[12:58] Tor Karlsvalt: Tori and Sandy have done super work in bringing attention to CDS
[12:58] Rosie Gray: yes they have ㋡
[12:58] Agatha Macbeth: Indeed
[12:58] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): my recuse myself from decisions regarding my curator, for the record.
[12:58] Jerry McNally: Noted, Anj
[12:58] Tor Karlsvalt: LOL
[12:58] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Aye, we're not the SCOTUS....
[12:58] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): MoC xURATOR-
[12:59] Tor Karlsvalt looks at his white shoes and realizes he might need a curator.
[12:59] Moon Adamant: oh yay, great idea
[12:59] Moon Adamant: )
[12:59] Gwyneth Llewelyn: aww poor Tor!
[12:59] Rosie Gray: hehe
[12:59] Tor Karlsvalt looks at his white shoes and realizes he might need a curator.
[12:59] Moon Adamant: oh yay, great idea
[12:59] Moon Adamant: )
[12:59] Gwyneth Llewelyn: aww poor Tor!
[12:59] Rosie Gray: hehe
[12:59] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Anyway.... motion to grant the Order of Anzere to our notable citizens, Tori Landau and Sandy Burgess!
[13:00] Gwyneth Llewelyn: (let's get this rolling since at least it's an easy thing to pass lol)
[13:00] Jerry McNally: Perfect, Gwyn! Any seconds?
[13:00] Almut Brunswick: Second
[13:00] Jerry McNally: Thanks Almut!
[13:00] Gwyneth Llewelyn: But for the sake of Anj, let's vote separately?
[13:00] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): AYE (SANDY)
[13:00] Rosie Gray: aye
[13:00] Almut Brunswick: aye
[13:00] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Aye onn Tori, aye on Sandy
[13:01] Jerry McNally: aye on Tori, Aye on Sandy
[13:01] Jerry McNally: Rosie and Almut ,can you just confirm that aye for both?
[13:01] Almut Brunswick: Yes, Aye for both
[13:01] Jerry McNally: (for the record?)
[13:01] Rosie Gray: for both, aye!
[13:01] Jerry McNally: Excellent! Congrats Tori and Sandy!
[13:01] Moon Adamant: •.¸'•.¸ ♥ ¸.•´¸.•
[13:01] Moon Adamant: .•♥¨• APPLAUDS! •¨♥•.
[13:01] Moon Adamant: ¸.•¸.•*´ ♥•.¸*•.¸'•.¸¸(
[13:01] Gwyneth Llewelyn: woo hoo!
[13:02] Gwyneth Llewelyn *applauds vigorously*! 👏
[13:02] Tor Karlsvalt: ('•.¸ ♬ ¸.•'´)¸.•'´)'•.¸:•.•:¨☆☆¨:•.•:¸.•'´)♫
[13:02] Tor Karlsvalt: ♫(
[13:02] Tor Karlsvalt: ,.´:* APPLAUSE !!!! :´.,
[13:02] Tor Karlsvalt: ☆ (¸.•'´:•.•:¨☆☆¨*:•.•:'•.¸) ☆'•.¸)`'•.¸)
[13:02] Tor Karlsvalt: (¸.•'´(¸.•'´ ♬ ´
[13:02] Gwyneth Llewelyn: More work for you, Rosie... lol
[13:02] Rosie Gray: clap clap clap
[13:02] Rosie Gray: awh, nice work though and not too much trouble 
[13:02] Jerry McNally: I understand there are some practicalities that need to be in place for the Oktoberfest event, for this?
[13:02] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): Almut, could I ask you to correct the awful typos created by my speech to text software please when you do the minutes?
[13:02] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Exactly, I was just going to say....
[13:03] Tor Karlsvalt: It's usually awarded at the Ball.
[13:03] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Indeed
[13:03] Almut Brunswick: Anj, that is self-evident!
[13:03] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Anj: your Speech to Text thingy is actually awesome!
[13:03] Jerry McNally: Just looking at the Law: "5. The ceremony of the attribution of the Order of Anzere is held during the Oktoberfest. The Chancellor will organise it. A member of the RA makes a speech about each recipient of the Order of Anzere."
[13:03] Moon Adamant makes a note about the Ball
[13:03] Rosie Gray: yes, it's very good Anj!
[13:03] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): Needs a little tun but I'm getting there
[13:04] Tor Karlsvalt thinks that is probably a good tool for anyone.
[13:04] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): tuning
[13:04] Almut Brunswick: And let me know the date of the ball long in advance this time!
[13:04] Gwyneth Llewelyn agrees with Tor and I'm considering to do the same lol
[13:04] Gwyneth Llewelyn chuckles
[13:04] Jerry McNally: Ok, are we ok to move on
[13:04] Jerry McNally: ?
[13:05] Rosie Gray nods
[13:05] Moon Adamant: already on teh CDS calendar: Talk Like a Pirate Day and CDS Parade and Oktoberfest at the Platz
[13:05] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I'm okay, I just wanted to congratulate formally our new members of the Most Illustrious, Sacred and Secret Order of Anzere
[13:05] Jerry McNally: Excellent
7 Citizen Concerns
[13:05] Jerry McNally: So, 7 Citizen Concerns
[13:05] Jerry McNally: Any concerned citizens
[13:06] Jerry McNally: (Or citizens we should be concerned about?
[13:06] Gwyneth Llewelyn: lol
[13:06] Tor Karlsvalt:
[13:06] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): having met some of them last night I'm not quite sure
[13:06] Rosie Gray: oh I see Oktoberfest on the calendar but can't find Talk Like a Pirate
[13:06] Jerry McNally: lol
[13:06] Gwyneth Llewelyn: haha Anj!!
[13:06] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Rosie: well, the date is fixed
[13:07] Almut Brunswick complains the lack of silly kimono jokes this term.
[13:07] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): by the way who was ORM
[13:07] Jerry McNally: Sorry Almut!
[13:07] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Wait! That's for RA Members' concerns, Almut!
[13:07] Rosie Gray: aha, now I see it!
[13:07] Moon Adamant: oops, sorry, yes ㋡
[13:07] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Anj: we're not allowed to say
8 RA Member Concerns
[13:07] Jerry McNally: Let's move to 8 RA Member Concerns as well then
[13:07] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): catsneeze~~
[13:07] Jerry McNally: Anyone?
[13:08] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Almut antecipated hers....
[13:08] Moon Adamant: Talk Like a Pirate Day Shindig ㋡
[13:08] Agatha Macbeth has no concerns
[13:08] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Goodie, Agatha
[13:08] Rosie Gray:
[13:08] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I had something, but I forgot, so it's of no concern really
[13:09] Rosie Gray: I decidedly unconcerned.. for now!
[13:09] Jerry McNally: Well Gwyn, if it comes to you, post it to the forum
[13:09] Gwyneth Llewelyn: For now....
[13:09] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I will lol
9 Announcements
[13:09] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I'm sure it was something we already addressed today, in fact.
[13:09] Jerry McNally: Ok next is 9 Announcements, and the best part of the meeting...
[13:09] Gwyneth Llewelyn: haha
[13:09] Jerry McNally: ...Tori's update!
[13:09] Gwyneth Llewelyn: YAY!
[13:09] Agatha Macbeth: Woot
[13:09] Gwyneth Llewelyn: \o/
[13:10] Moon Adamant:
[13:10] Jerry McNally: Ok, this is Tori's voice now:
"Hi everyone,
1) I met RL artist Adam Nash (SL: Adam Ramona) at the museum on 29th July and he handed over a copyable version of Infra Assemblage to MoCAso. So, should it ever be accidentally returned from the museum's roof we don't need to worry about having lost it.
[13:10] Jerry McNally: 2) I would appreciate receiving submissions for the SLEA's Teach Peace Exhibition by 24th August please. In addition to images, written word, sculptures etc being sent Mod/Copy to MoCAso Oh it would be wonderful if as many people as possible couple please send a notecard to MoCAso with what peace means to them on a personal level. An example could be a grandmother thinking that it allows her to see her grandchildren grow up. Please do let me know if you are happy for your words to be credited to you or you wish to be anonymous.
Our exhibition at SLEA will be a Peace Park. The Park is in the shape of a Dove and will have the international peace symbol as a pathway within the dove. Mesh characters wearing white or some white clothing will be used for the words of personal peace and artworks will be displayed around the park. Anjoux and myself will be performing a peace party at the exhibit on world peace day, 21st September and SLEA have been very supportive of this event.
[13:11] Jerry McNally: 3) Reminder: with the 20th anniversaries of CDS and the museum approaching soon I'd like to hear people's thoughts on an exhibition and events the community would like to hold at the museum as part of this please. A party has been arranged for Saturday 12th October at Noon with Anjoux and myself.
Thank you and done "
[13:11] Tor Karlsvalt: I wonder if Dave could do a Limerick
[13:11] Moon Adamant: yay!
[13:11] Jerry McNally: Another fine update, for sure!
[13:11] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Oh that would be wonderful, Tor
[13:11] Tor Karlsvalt: Good idea. MoCA is just about as old as CDS. At least since we got this island in 05.
[13:11] Gwyneth Llewelyn: All right, this exhibition sounds really interesting!
[13:12] Gwyneth Llewelyn: MoCA is its own exhibition of the CDS history
[13:12] Rosie Gray: it does... we need to help out by adding to it if possible
[13:12] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Hmm I wonder.... I could (temporarily) set up the original website for the CDS?
[13:12] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Or at least some textures of it
[13:13] Gwyneth Llewelyn: (there might be copyright issues)
[13:13] Jerry McNally: Is there something on the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine on that Gwyn?
[13:13] Jerry McNally: I'll have a look later
[13:13] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Oh, I have my own full copy, rest assured
[13:13] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Or had... lol
[13:13] Jerry McNally: We just need to be careful about hosting, is all
[13:14] Gwyneth Llewelyn: So perhaps not hosting, just some snapshots placed on textures then
[13:14] Jerry McNally: Good idea
[13:14] Gwyneth Llewelyn: And not the entire website either, so we can always claim "fair use"
[13:14] Rosie Gray: that would work
[13:14] Jerry McNally: yep
[13:15] Jerry McNally: Does anyone have any other announcements that aren't on the https://cdsdemocracy.org/cds-events page?
[13:15] Almut Brunswick: Not from my side
[13:15] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I think so, too, although the odds of Ulrika's lawers coming around to see that are next to zero lol
[13:15] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ah, none from me
[13:15] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): Nothing extra from me
[13:15] Rosie Gray: nor from me
[13:15] Jerry McNally: Ok thanks.
[13:15] Tor Karlsvalt: lol
10 Date of Next RA Meeting
Initial proposal: Sunday, September 1, 2024, 10:00 AM SLT
[13:16] Jerry McNally: So we're up to 10 Date of Next RA Meeting
[13:16] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): proposed date and time find by me
[13:16] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): fine
[13:16] Almut Brunswick: Raises her finger
[13:16] Tor Karlsvalt: Wonders if after 20 years all of Ulrika's stuff are public domain.
[13:16] Jerry McNally: I've initially proposed Sunday, September 1, 2024, 10:00 AM SLT but am flexible
[13:16] Almut Brunswick: I cannot make it on September 1, because I'm not in town
[13:16] Jerry McNally: Sorry - Almut, go ahead
[13:16] Gwyneth Llewelyn: (I'm sure not, Tor, we'll have to wait 75 years after her death I think)
[13:17] Jerry McNally: ok, what date would you prefer Almut?
[13:17] Tor Karlsvalt: I think it might be faster
[13:17] Almut Brunswick: (hard when somebody is a vampire, Gwyn)
[13:17] Tor Karlsvalt: It is for drugs
[13:17] Almut Brunswick: One week later: September 8, same time
[13:17] Almut Brunswick: or September 7
[13:17] Rosie Gray: I cannot on the 7th, but I can on the 8th
[13:18] Jerry McNally: Either of those dates are good for me
[13:18] Gwyneth Llewelyn is fine with either as well
[13:18] Jerry McNally: Anj and Gwyn? 8th?
[13:18] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): 8 is fine buy me too
[13:18] Gwyneth Llewelyn: 8 is fine!
[13:18] Almut Brunswick: 10 AM this time?
[13:18] Rosie Gray: how did we end up at noon today?
[13:18] Jerry McNally: ok, September 8 - 10 am?
[13:18] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): I'll have to convince the cat but I'm sure that's okay
[13:18] Gwyneth Llewelyn: lol who knows...
[13:19] Jerry McNally: I want to alternate, because that 12 time is not great for everyone
[13:19] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): lol
[13:19] Agatha Macbeth: 
[13:19] Rosie Gray: ah
[13:19] Gwyneth Llewelyn: All right, let's settle on Sepp 8, 10 AM SLT
[13:19] Almut Brunswick: Good
[13:19] Rosie Gray: sounds good
[13:19] Rosie Gray: putting on calendar now
[13:20] Gwyneth Llewelyn: thanks, Rosie!
[13:20] Jerry McNally: Sorry, I meant to say "because that 10 time is not great for everyone" - ie me
[13:20] Rosie Gray: aah
[13:20] Jerry McNally: but I'm happy to alternate
[13:20] Rosie Gray: I'm fine with noon, btw
[13:20] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): me too Jerry
[13:20] Rosie Gray: don't know about others
[13:21] Gwyneth Llewelyn: (I'm fine too, for the record)
[13:21] Jerry McNally: let's go with September 8 - 10 am
[13:21] Almut Brunswick: Aye
[13:21] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): aya
[13:21] Gwyneth Llewelyn: So long as it doesn't fall again on the Olympic Games Ending Ceremony, any day/time is fine!
[13:21] Gwyneth Llewelyn: aye
[13:22] Tor Karlsvalt: Four more years for that
[13:22] Jerry McNally: We've reached a concensus without the need for one of Robert's Motions, so that date and time is now agreed
[13:22] Rosie Gray: ㋡
[13:22] Gwyneth Llewelyn: hahahaha
11 Adjourn
[13:22] Jerry McNally: Let's go to 11 Adjourn
[13:22] Almut Brunswick: Yes, we just relied on Murphy's Law
[13:22] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): I propose we add
[13:22] Tor Karlsvalt: hehe
[13:23] Almut Brunswick: Thank you, Mr. LRA and everybody.
[13:23] Jerry McNally: Unless there is anything to the contrary, let's end it here. thanks everyone!
[13:23] Tor Karlsvalt: yay!
[13:23] Rosie Gray: thanks Jerry ㋡
[13:23] Gwyneth Llewelyn: No objections, Your Honour! I mean, Mr LRA!
[13:23] Tor Karlsvalt: btw, the marble floor looks great
[13:23] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): thanks Jerry
[13:23] Agatha Macbeth: Oh yes it does
[13:23] Tor Karlsvalt: I didn't see it last time while I was on FS
[13:23] Anjoux Landau Herbit (anjoux.herbit): thanks everyone comment and thanks Agatha!
[13:23] Jerry McNally: Thanks everyone - and don't forget to keep an eye open for your Forum tasks, members of the RA!