Guild Meeting 2nd December 2007

[Arria Perreault]

[10:11] You: I propose that we start the meeting now
[10:12] Sonja Strom: I am not typing - I don't know why it looks like it~!
[10:12] Brian Livingston: I give it two and ah alf. Chances are there will be one straggler of a spot that will take longer to sell than the rest
[10:12] You: Hi Jon
[10:12] Brian Livingston: Hi Jon
[10:12] Jon Seattle: Hi all
[10:12] Rose Springvale: hi jon
[10:12] Dnate Mars: hello
[10:12] You: Agenda: AM (Sudane), Christmas events (Rose) and varia
[10:13] You: anything else?
[10:13] Jon Seattle: Hi Arria, Brian, Sonja, Sudane, Dnate, Rose
[10:13] Sonja Strom: I would like to talk about where the main road goes on AM.
[10:13] Sonja Strom: Hi!
[10:13] Rain Ninetails: ooof
[10:14] Brian Livingston: Hi Rain
[10:14] You: OK. I propose that Sudane tell us about AM, then we can discuss some other ponts related to AM
[10:14] Rose Springvale: yes good
[10:14] Sonja Strom: ok
[10:14] Rose Springvale: hi bjerkel!
[10:14] You: inclusive road, waterfall, Monastery
[10:14] Sonja Strom: Hi Bjerkel!
[10:14] Jon Seattle: Hi Rain
[10:14] You: Hi Bjerkel
[10:14] Jon Seattle: Hi Bjerkel
[10:14] Bjerkel Eerie: hello all!
[10:14] Rose Springvale: hey Rain!
[10:14] You: I give the word to SUdane
[10:15] Sudane Erato: kk
[10:15] Sudane Erato: you can see on the map the sold parcels... plus AH2 is also sold
[10:15] Sudane Erato: the land is mostly all terraformed
[10:15] Sudane Erato: and all but the D parcels have been transferred to their owners
[10:15] Rose Springvale: the waterfall is finished?
[10:16] Sudane Erato: Moon and Jon have been building the pre-made houses for the D parcels
[10:16] You: Hi Princess
[10:16] Rose Springvale: hey princess!
[10:16] Jon Seattle: Hi Princess
[10:16] ThePrincess Parisi: hi arria hi rose
[10:16] Sudane Erato: and Diderot's group is planning the water course
[10:16] ThePrincess Parisi: hi jon
[10:16] ThePrincess Parisi: sudane and dnate.. and everyoen else
[10:16] Sudane Erato: no, the waterfall is not even started, to my knowledge
[10:16] Rose Springvale: okay, i thought
[10:17] Sudane Erato: the big project that i am aware of right at this moment is planting trees
[10:17] Rose Springvale: there is a problem there
[10:17] Rose Springvale: or i'm out of the look.. did it get resolved?
[10:17] Rose Springvale: loop
[10:17] Rose Springvale: *
[10:17] Sudane Erato: a problem with the trees?
[10:17] Sudane Erato: only that we could ujse helpers
[10:18] Rose Springvale: brian andi tried to plant the other night and coulld only plant prim trees
[10:18] Rose Springvale: not linden
[10:18] Sudane Erato: yes, you need to let me know, and I will make you an officer of the LV group
[10:18] Sudane Erato: thats needed to plant LL trees
[10:18] Rose Springvale: oh, i thought i already was
[10:18] Rose Springvale: but still couldn't
[10:18] Sudane Erato: oh
[10:18] Sudane Erato: well... i guesss not
[10:18] Brian Livingston: I know I'm in L:V, not sure if I am an officer
[10:18] Rose Springvale: lol
[10:18] Rose Springvale: okay
[10:18] Sudane Erato: cause thats whats needed
[10:19] Sudane Erato: I'll set that
[10:19] Rose Springvale: i can build, but not plant
[10:19] Sudane Erato: yes... thats the way the silly perms work
[10:19] Rose Springvale: okay
[10:19] You: did you made a map to plant trees?
[10:19] Rose Springvale: we'll plant as soon as we can
[10:19] Sudane Erato: no... no map...
[10:19] Sudane Erato: only i have asked that people use the supplied LL trees
[10:20] Sudane Erato: and that trees be somewhat clumped
[10:20] Rose Springvale nods. good
[10:20] Rose Springvale: and leave a ski run?
[10:20] Sudane Erato: rather than equally spread all over
[10:20] Jon Seattle: Yes, the latter is important
[10:20] You: I would like to have a tree near the Monastery
[10:20] Brian Livingston is looking fora pair of tiny skis :p
[10:20] You: a big one
[10:20] Rain Ninetails:
[10:20] MT Lundquist is Offline
[10:20] Sonja Strom:
[10:20] Sudane Erato: hehe
[10:21] Sudane Erato: well, Arria, you can plant them too
[10:21] Rose Springvale: and the monastery ground is private now yes?
[10:21] You: ok. DO I have the rights? I think that I am not in the NFS group
[10:21] Sudane Erato: then i can add you
[10:21] Rose Springvale: on your land you always have rights too
[10:21] You: For now, Monastery it is "mine"
[10:22] You: It will be set to Virtus group
[10:22] Bjerkel Eerie: I think we ned to mke certain there are off piste opportunities and taht you can cut tracks acroos broad sections of slope
[10:22] Sudane Erato: yes, but even then you will still be able to plant
[10:22] You: It just need an organization's work (charters,...)
[10:22] Rose Springvale: off piste opportunities?
[10:23] Sudane Erato:
[10:23] Bjerkel Eerie: most good skiers like to ski in fresh snow instead of just o one narrow run
[10:23] Rose Springvale: i agree1
[10:23] Magical Beaumont is Online
[10:24] Rose Springvale: and it is such a great skiing mountain!
[10:24] Bjerkel Eerie: we have potential cliff jumping and narrw coulior sking
[10:24] You: right. We need to developp/get a special installation
[10:25] You: snowboard or ski?
[10:25] Rose Springvale: all!!
[10:25] Sudane Erato: oh... and i forgot to mention
[10:25] Sudane Erato: the roads are done, except by the monastery
[10:25] Bjerkel Eerie: toute tattain, toute neige!!
[10:25] Sudane Erato: and several of the brdiges are almost done
[10:25] Bjerkel Eerie: re terrain not tattin
[10:26] Rose Springvale: not sure if this is the right place.. but do we really allow ban lines in CDS?
[10:26] You: yes
[10:26] Sudane Erato: I have IMed Conor to remove them
[10:26] Rose Springvale: okay, i couldn't find the prohibition
[10:26] Sudane Erato: i guess there is none
[10:26] Dnate Mars: Sleazy has finished his bridge
[10:26] Sudane Erato: but it is very contarary to our community ways
[10:26] Mathoni Zuhrah is Offline
[10:26] Rose Springvale: moves we amend the covenants to include no ban lines
[10:27] Sudane Erato: great!
[10:27] You: I still have mine to do
[10:27] Sonja Strom: ban ban lines!
[10:27] Sudane Erato:
[10:27] Brian Livingston: I'm probably half done. Fine tuning, texturing and so on
[10:27] Max Chatnoir is Online
[10:27] You: I would like to see also how we can manage the road near the MOnastery
[10:27] Dnate Mars: I thought we had a black list only rule?
[10:27] Sudane Erato: do we?
[10:27] Sonja Strom: I thought so too.
[10:27] You: between the DT houses and the Monastery
[10:27] ThePrincess Parisi: me too
[10:27] Sudane Erato: that s what i told Conor
[10:27] Rose Springvale: i can't find it.. i know Carolyn used it
[10:27] Sonja Strom: at the CDS level.
[10:28] Brian Livingston: It's not in thecovenant listed on teh AH2 plot :/
[10:28] Brian Livingston: I didn't check the wiki though
[10:28] Dnate Mars: or at least a no white-list rule
[10:28] Sonja Strom: I couldn't find it either, but there were discussions about it in the Forum quite some time ago.
[10:28] Jon Seattle: Well, ban lines have been major debates in the past. Personally I do not like them, but every few CDS citizens have used them
[10:28] Sudane Erato: I'm sure Conor will remove them when he knows
[10:28] Jon Seattle: The land round the decision was not to outlaw them.
[10:28] Sudane Erato: it is not "obvious"
[10:28] Jon Seattle: *last round
[10:29] ThePrincess Parisi: well we need to have it clear that its not allowed ..it ruins the atmosphere
[10:29] Sonja Strom: exactly!
[10:29] ThePrincess Parisi: hmm.. well i am for having them outlawed
[10:29] Jon Seattle: We can try again
[10:29] Sudane Erato: we are not the group to ban them
[10:29] Rose Springvale: second my motion and we;ll throw it to the RA
[10:29] ThePrincess Parisi:
[10:30] You: will you vote on this point?
[10:30] Jon Seattle: So far, however, community pressure has been pretty effective
[10:30] ThePrincess Parisi: well i would rather see it clearly understood
[10:30] Bjerkel Eerie: I think scandanavian and british right of tresspasss is a great policy, I hate the fact that in teh US peopel cn closeOcean beaches to teh public
[10:30] Sudane Erato: the Guild is not the place to discuss this
[10:30] Sudane Erato: IMHO
[10:30] Dnate Mars: but if you are in the water you are safe
[10:30] Jon Seattle: I agre
[10:30] Jon Seattle: this is an RA matter
[10:30] Rose Springvale: most of the us that is not true..
[10:30] ThePrincess Parisi: im glad to put a bill up
[10:30] Brian Livingston agrees with Sudane
[10:30] ThePrincess Parisi: yep
[10:30] You: I agree
[10:31] Rose Springvale: (public access to publi waters is guaranteed in most states )
[10:31] Dnate Mars: just a question, was CN frozen over last year too?
[10:31] Jon Seattle: Ah, Rose, but only if you are actually in the water.. in many areas.
[10:31] Sudane Erato: no
[10:31] Brian Livingston: Not that I recall
[10:31] Bjerkel Eerie: Not in Washington and we have more coastline than most states because of puget sound
[10:31] Rose Springvale: cn wasn't really there last year
[10:32] Rose Springvale: we bought in november, didn't build til jan
[10:32] ThePrincess Parisi: its lovely now
[10:32] You: no, Dnate
[10:32] ThePrincess Parisi: a sim with seasons
[10:32] Dnate Mars: ok, continue on
[10:32] You: ok.
[10:32] You: roads
[10:33] Sonja Strom: can I talk about that now?
[10:33] You: Sonja would like to discuss how the roads are going throught AM
[10:33] You: yes
[10:33] Sonja Strom: I like AM very much.
[10:33] Sonja Strom: But there is one thing that bothers me about it.
[10:33] Brian Livingston is going to be going afk on and off for he next hour or so, fyi
[10:33] Sonja Strom: ok
[10:33] Sonja Strom: The topography and the main road do not match well. In RL the roads take the best path to get up or down a hillside.
[10:34] Sonja Strom: In AM the main road takes one of them most difficult routes,
[10:34] Sonja Strom: winding around and across the waterfalls.
[10:34] Sonja Strom: Obviously, a little of that looks very good.
[10:35] Sonja Strom: But I think as it is now it does not look good to me.
[10:35] Sonja Strom: Either the road should go off to one side a bit (the west)
[10:35] Sudane Erato: is this a terrain issue, or a road issue?
[10:35] Sonja Strom: or both sides of the waterfalls should be steep enough not to be good for a road.
[10:36] Sonja Strom: I say, it depends on which way we want it to be.
[10:36] Dnate Mars: I need to go, later
[10:36] ThePrincess Parisi: bye dnate
[10:36] You: bye Dnate
[10:36] Sonja Strom: ok Dnate, bye
[10:36] Jon Seattle: Bye Dante
[10:36] Dnate Mars is Offline
[10:36] Bjerkel Eerie: good bye dante
[10:36] Sonja Strom: We could move the road to make it less difficult, with how the terrain is now.
[10:36] Sonja Strom: Or, we could make the terrain more dramatic,
[10:37] Sonja Strom: so the best route is through that narrow area.
[10:37] Sonja Strom: I can find RL examples to show you what I am talking about, if you are having difficulty understanding me.
[10:37] Rose Springvale: i think the idea was access to all lots and connection to exitsting roads sonja
[10:38] Sonja Strom: Yes, but it could still do that and move away from in front of the waterfalls.
[10:38] Sonja Strom: I have thought about this a great deal.
[10:38] Sonja Strom: I was working on a Forum post...
[10:38] Rose Springvale: perhaps what we need is another route?
[10:38] Rose Springvale: to the west?
[10:38] Sonja Strom: but decided probably it would be better to talk with you all in person first.
[10:38] Jon Seattle: I think this would be easier to discuss with Moon around, she tends to be very open to this kind of suggestion
[10:38] Sonja Strom: For me, that would be the best choice.
[10:39] Sonja Strom: But this is a matter of opinion.
[10:39] Sonja Strom: The day the main road was built
[10:39] Rose Springvale: but in addition to the existign one? i like all the bridges personally
[10:39] Sonja Strom: I spoke with Moon about this
[10:39] You: Yes, Moon should be present to the discussion
[10:39] Sonja Strom: and she said "Thank you for letting me know.
[10:39] Sonja Strom: "
[10:39] Sonja Strom: But then, nothing at all has changed.
[10:39] Bjerkel Eerie: Pave over Paradise?
[10:39] Sonja Strom: In fact, work on the bridges has continued...
[10:39] Sonja Strom: I love the bridges, actually.
[10:40] Sonja Strom: So, this work is great.
[10:40] Sonja Strom: It is only, that the way it is now,
[10:40] Sonja Strom: with the combination of not-so-bad terrain
[10:40] Sonja Strom: and the main road going along the waterfalls
[10:40] Sonja Strom: that looks very unrealistic.
[10:40] Sonja Strom: You can see this clearly from the CN ampitheater.
[10:41] Sonja Strom: Mostly what I ask is,
[10:41] Ulysse Alexandre is Online
[10:41] You: Sonja, can you draw your proposition?
[10:41] Sonja Strom: that we not declare the project finalised.
[10:41] Sonja Strom: But that we continue to improve and work on it for some time to come.
[10:41] Sonja Strom: Yes Arrria, I absolutely can make a proposition.
[10:41] Rose Springvale: i think there is precedent for that... we continue to work on all the sims
[10:42] You: you can take this map in the forum and draw your proposal, so we can see what is possible to change
[10:42] Sudane Erato: well, people who own parcels will want to know that thier parcels are finalized
[10:42] Sonja Strom: I don't know if that is a problem or not.
[10:42] You: I think that cannot change the parcela now
[10:42] Sonja Strom: My parcel can be changed completely, and that is OK with me.
[10:42] You: and every house should be accessible
[10:42] Sonja Strom: It is AT1, which is in this western area
[10:42] Rose Springvale: which is yours sonja?
[10:43] Sonja Strom: that I think could be made to be more dramatic.
[10:43] Sonja Strom: Then, where the road is now would make sense.
[10:44] Rose Springvale: can what you are thinking be done with terraforming?
[10:44] Sonja Strom: You mean, to move the ground level?
[10:44] Rose Springvale: create the dramatic effect you want
[10:45] Sonja Strom: How I understand it is, I only have the ability to move my own ground level by 2m.
[10:45] Sonja Strom: I don't think that would be enough.
[10:45] Sonja Strom: In addition, that would only be my land.
[10:45] Sonja Strom: What I am talking about is the whole west side of the sim in that area.
[10:45] Jon Seattle: Ah, the chancellor can grant exceptions, but also we may want to think of a coherent plan -- more than one plot
[10:46] Sonja Strom: For example, the way AM is now north of my land in NFS,
[10:46] Rose Springvale: yes
[10:46] Sonja Strom: there it is too steep for a road.
[10:46] Sonja Strom: But a little bit further to the east, it becomes very easy.
[10:46] Sonja Strom: Much easier than where the waterfall is.
[10:46] Sudane Erato: but we must meet the existing road in NFS
[10:47] Sonja Strom: If I were walking there in RL, the road would be the most difficult route!
[10:47] Rose Springvale: i would like to see what you have in mind sonja..i think most ancient roads followed waterways
[10:47] Sonja Strom: The road can go from there to the west, and then back to a bridge.
[10:47] Sonja Strom: This is called a switchback.
[10:47] Sonja Strom: Many did, yes Rose.
[10:47] Sonja Strom: But only because they were the easiest route.
[10:48] Rose Springvale: yes, i see your point
[10:48] Sonja Strom: In Switzerland there are several like that.
[10:48] Sonja Strom: Most were built by the Romans.
[10:48] Sonja Strom: But only because the canyons cut throught the mountains.
[10:48] Sonja Strom: Hi Delia!
[10:48] Rose Springvale: hi delia!
[10:48] You: Hi Delia
[10:49] Sonja Strom: When the mountains were an easier route than the waterways, they used the mountain routes.
[10:49] Bjerkel Eerie: switchbacks are an elegant design element in many alpine landscapes
[10:49] ThePrincess Parisi: Hi Delia
[10:49] Delia Lake: hi everyone. i can't stay more than a few minutes as i have a rl committment
[10:49] Jon Seattle: Hi Delia
[10:50] You: ok. I think that we cannot discuss this point without Moon.
[10:50] Sonja Strom: One example like that in RL is Gotthard Pass.
[10:51] Sonja Strom: Certainly I want Moon to be involved...
[10:51] Rose Springvale: you aren't proposing completely removing, but adding to?
[10:51] Bjerkel Eerie: Sustan, and Furkka passes also
[10:51] Sonja Strom: Yes!
[10:51] Sonja Strom: For the roads, it would be adding to.
[10:52] Rose Springvale: so long as we have prims and can accomodate it, i don't see any reason not to try to add it
[10:52] Sonja Strom: For the landscape, it would be making the west side of AM higher.
[10:52] Sonja Strom: More dramatic.
[10:52] Sonja Strom: Either way is OK for me.
[10:52] Rose Springvale: but i'm not a builder..
[10:52] Sonja Strom: Personally, I would prefer to leave the landscape mostly as it is,
[10:52] Sonja Strom: and alter the road to make it more realistic.
[10:53] Sonja Strom: But that is an opinion,
[10:53] Sonja Strom: and my own view.
[10:53] Sonja Strom: The main thing for me from this meeting is,
[10:53] You: Can you draw this switch back on the map?
[10:53] You: and post it to the forum
[10:53] Delia Lake: there are some photos of Gotthard Pass on a google search
[10:53] Sonja Strom: I don't want everyone to say "the road and the terrain are completely finished."
[10:54] Sonja Strom: I don't have a drawing program, but I can try to put something in the Forum about it.
[10:54] Sonja Strom: I can see how well I can do it.
[10:54] Sonja Strom: As I said before,
[10:54] Jon Seattle: oops
[10:54] Sonja Strom: I thought about putting this issue in the forum,
[10:54] You: I try to figure out how can be this switch back
[10:54] Draxtor Despres is Online
[10:55] Sonja Strom: but decided to talk about it here before doing thatt.
[10:55] Sonja Strom: I was hoping Moon would be here.
[10:55] You: she told me yersterday late that she will not be able to be present today
[10:55] Delia Lake: i also have one issue, and i don't think it is major. the source of the river right now puts the flow coming out almost under the NFS city wall. i would like to move that pool of water to the other side of the road there and have the source under the NFS field/meadow instead
[10:56] Sonja Strom: Actually, I agree with that as well.
[10:56] Rose Springvale: i wonder if it needs to be a forum issue...i think we can put it to moon and the field builders
[10:56] Sonja Strom: Perhaps we can work on these things for some time.
[10:56] Rose Springvale: i think both are good ideas
[10:56] Rose Springvale: would love to see a bubbly spring
[10:56] Sonja Strom: Personally, I see no reason to have to hurry about them.
[10:56] You: can we wait next week or organize a meeting as soon as possible
[10:56] Sonja Strom: Why must we say, OK, they are put in - that's it!
[10:56] You: ?
[10:56] Sonja Strom: ?
[10:57] Jon Seattle: Yes, Moon has to be away today.. RL commitments
[10:57] Sonja Strom: It is not my intention to reach a decision here.
[10:57] You: ok
[10:57] Sonja Strom: But it is to raise this issue.
[10:57] Sonja Strom: And I agree with Delia also.
[10:58] You: this is an open point that we will continue to discuss
[10:58] Sonja Strom: I think it is wise to be flexible and take the time we need to have it be beautiful and make sense in real terms.
[10:58] Draxtor Despres is Offline
[10:58] Rose Springvale: thanks for spending time to think about this Sonja.. i think the sims are better with more input
[10:58] You: and we can always improve things
[10:59] Sonja Strom: thank you
[10:59] You: Delia, can you telll us something about waterfalls?
[10:59] Delia Lake: what would you like to know?
[10:59] Melisandre Stuer is Online
[10:59] You: the situation
[11:00] Delia Lake: and BJ may have opinions and input about them too
[11:00] Melisandre Stuer is Offline
[11:01] Delia Lake: i'm not sure what you are asking. will we have them? yes. also right now the way the river is, quite straight and steep, it will be a very fast moving river
[11:01] Rose Springvale: yay
[11:02] Rose Springvale loves fast
[11:02] Sonja Strom:
[11:03] You: anything else about waterfalls?
[11:03] You: anything else about AM?
[11:03] Rose Springvale: i have a question
[11:03] Rose Springvale: i posted on the forum...
[11:03] You: please
[11:03] Bjerkel Eerie: remember i cold climate even teh outr serfaces of waterfalls freeze, nd re used for iceclimbing
[11:03] Rose Springvale: we have a ski/rec lodge in the plan
[11:04] Delia Lake: yes
[11:04] You: right
[11:04] Rose Springvale: but when i go onto the mountain, it is very far down the hill
[11:04] Delia Lake: and icicles on the rocks
[11:04] Rose Springvale: can we move it higher?
[11:04] Rose Springvale: closer to NFS?
[11:05] You: I have seen a small building near the Monastery
[11:05] You: under construction
[11:06] Rose Springvale: oh, okay, last i saw there was no volunteer for it
[11:06] Rose Springvale: anyway.. we can table that, i just wanted it in the minutes so it's considered
[11:06] Sonja Strom: to have a ski lodge?
[11:06] You: it will be
[11:06] Rose Springvale: unless we put a lift higher.. we lose a lot of skiing terrain
[11:06] Jon Seattle: I think that was Bjerkel's project, I don't know if she wants to be the offical logdge designer?
[11:06] You: I will post the logs after the meeting
[11:07] Rose Springvale: yes bjerkel!
[11:07] Jon Seattle: *lodge
[11:07] Sonja Strom: we could put a ski lodge on AT1, and put the lift there.
[11:07] Sonja Strom: For me, I think that could look good.
[11:07] Delia Lake: i hate to leave so quickly, but i need to meet someone in rl. bye everyone
[11:07] Sonja Strom: I could include my land in NFS also somehow.
[11:07] You: bye Delia
[11:07] Sonja Strom: OK Delia -bye!
[11:08] Jon Seattle: Bye delia
[11:08] Sudane Erato: bye
[11:08] Rain Ninetails:
[11:08] Rose Springvale: it's a great location sonja
[11:08] Rose Springvale: but i'm looking for public facilities
[11:08] Rose Springvale: where we can have concerts etc
[11:09] Rose Springvale: if we can get next to the sim cross we can support bigger crowds...
[11:09] You: I thin that the Monastery can be used
[11:09] Rose Springvale: and tie the two sims together better
[11:09] Sonja Strom: ok
[11:09] You: for any event
[11:09] Rose Springvale: not for skiing Arria
[11:09] Sonja Strom: just thought I would bring up the possibility.
[11:09] You: but for concerts
[11:09] Rose Springvale: and i've looked at it, not sure how it would support a concert
[11:09] You: music chamber
[11:09] Rose Springvale: no spaces are big enough
[11:09] MT Lundquist is Online
[11:10] Rose Springvale: i dont think
[11:10] Rose Springvale: pluse
[11:10] Sonja Strom: What about the auditorium in CN?
[11:10] Rose Springvale: only certain concerts would seem appropriat to me
[11:10] Rose Springvale: yes, we will use that too
[11:10] Rose Springvale: you mean the amphitheater?
[11:10] Sonja Strom: Or a meadow, for in the summertime.
[11:10] You: thank you
[11:10] Sonja Strom: Well, there is the ampitheater, but there is also an enclosed one.
[11:10] Rose Springvale: oh, michels
[11:11] Sonja Strom: I don't know the name of it, sorry.
[11:11] Rose Springvale: it's michel's auditorium
[11:11] Rose Springvale: craedo
[11:11] Jon Seattle: I need to run, see you all soon, and very good work everyone!
[11:11] Sonja Strom: oh, I see.
[11:11] Sonja Strom: See you Jon!
[11:11] Rose Springvale: again, private facillity
[11:11] You: We have a lot of space through CDS for many kind of events
[11:11] Rain Ninetails: by Jin
[11:11] Rose Springvale: of course, but each sim should have it's own
[11:11] You: we can use them all
[11:11] Rose Springvale: public space
[11:12] Sonja Strom: I see.
[11:12] Rose Springvale: and as AM is the only class 5
[11:12] Sonja Strom: Maybe in future we can have some open space sims!
[11:12] Rose Springvale: and we have public space, i just want to be able to use it
[11:12] You: The Monastery was the project for a public space in AM
[11:12] Sonja Strom: Yes, that is good.
[11:12] Rose Springvale: arria, this isn't about the monastery
[11:12] Sonja Strom: Could concerts be held there?
[11:12] Rose Springvale: it is about a lodge for recreation
[11:12] Sonja Strom: oh
[11:13] Sonja Strom: do they have to be in the same place?
[11:13] You: what is recreation?
[11:13] Sonja Strom: Concerts/skiing?
[11:13] Rose Springvale: skiing, rafting, rock bands
[11:13] Rose Springvale: lol
[11:13] Rain Ninetails: maybe a natural amphetheatre could be made in the terrain, with lawn/meadow seating, for the summer and fall...
[11:13] Sonja Strom: That would be great~!
[11:13] You: rock bands can go the the AMphi
[11:13] Rose Springvale: like you'd see at a resort lodge!
[11:13] Rose Springvale: lol
[11:13] Melisandre Stuer is Online
[11:13] Rose Springvale: thanks for your input on that
[11:13] Sonja Strom: Open space sims would work well for that. Lots of room.
[11:13] You: usually in the alps, we have outdoors concerts
[11:13] Rose Springvale: but all i' wanted to discuss is the lodge
[11:14] Rose Springvale: yes
[11:14] Sonja Strom: They could be mostly natural.
[11:14] Sonja Strom: And create some space between towns.
[11:14] You: the lodge is for skiing, maybe have fun eating a fondue
[11:14] Sonja Strom:
[11:14] Rose Springvale: all i wanted to do was suggest the facillity we already approved be moved up the mountain
[11:14] Rose Springvale: i dont' want to argue about wha tgoes where.. if you all want to schedule events, please do
[11:14] Rose Springvale: just let me know
[11:15] Sonja Strom: mmm, Glühwein...
[11:15] You: ok
[11:15] You: I will
[11:15] Sonja Strom: where up the mountain?
[11:15] Rose Springvale: sigh. closer to nfs
[11:15] Sonja Strom: Perhaps you said, but I did not understand.
[11:15] Sonja Strom: Near the city walls?
[11:16] Rose Springvale: it is presently slated to be about halfway down
[11:16] Sonja Strom: where the monastery is?
[11:16] Sonja Strom: BS2?
[11:16] Rose Springvale: no, more central, but close to the river
[11:16] You: on the other side of the road
[11:16] Sonja Strom: between BS2 and the monastery?
[11:16] Rose Springvale: i'm sorry, i dont' have the notes here
[11:17] Rose Springvale: lets table please, i need to go too, and have things i need to discuss
[11:17] Sonja Strom: I offered AT1, but you said that was not a good spot for it.
[11:17] Sonja Strom: ok
[11:18] Sonja Strom: Hopefully you don't think I was trying to be confrontational, because I was not. Only trying to understand what you want.
[11:18] Rose Springvale: thanks sonja.. i understand
[11:18] Rose Springvale: the point is that as a public officer i need to only schedule public events on public land
[11:19] You: OK. If anything alse on this point, I give you the word about Christmas events, Rose
[11:19] Rose Springvale: and whoever else takes thsi job as well
[11:19] Brian Livingston is sorta here again
[11:19] Rose Springvale: adn we put our public money toward that.
[11:19] Rose Springvale: anyway
[11:19] Sonja Strom is glad Brian is
[11:19] Rose Springvale: as you all can see
[11:19] Rose Springvale: it has snowed in cds
[11:19] Rose Springvale: satir and i iced over the CN river
[11:19] Rose Springvale: and it's very fun to skate on
[11:20] Brian Livingston: It looks wonderful Rose, thank you!
[11:20] Rose Springvale: i've had no volunteers to buidl an ice rink in nfs, which we planned...
[11:20] Rose Springvale: and it is really beyond my ability
[11:20] Rose Springvale: so i'd appeal to the guild again
[11:20] Rose Springvale: to help with that
[11:20] You: who made the ice on the river in CN?
[11:20] Brian Livingston: Im sorry rose, was that to go beneath the Platz, on topo f the platz, or elsewhere?
[11:20] Rose Springvale: Satir DeCuir
[11:21] Rose Springvale: she is a new citizen.. workign with me in CN
[11:21] Vespasian Cortes is Online
[11:21] Rose Springvale: i can get her to do the ice, but need someone else to bulld. also sleazy gave me some ice textures
[11:21] Brian Livingston: I can take a crack at a skating rink in NFS
[11:21] Rose Springvale: thanks brian!
[11:22] Brian Livingston: No promises it will look good, but I'll attempt it
[11:22] Rose Springvale: i have faith in you!
[11:22] You: great, Brian
[11:22] Rose Springvale: we will be decorating for the holidays this week too, but today i'd like to announce the snow creature contest
[11:22] Brian Livingston: Hmmm, give me until wednesday. I'll try to start building tonight
[11:22] Rose Springvale: This will begin today, with entries open for a week
[11:23] Rose Springvale: does anyone know what happeened to tan???
[11:23] Sonja Strom: good question!
[11:23] Sonja Strom: I have been wondering...
[11:23] You: not really
[11:23] Bjerkel Eerie: Mine fades in teh winter
[11:23] Rose Springvale: i've missed her.. she's so much help!
[11:23] Rose Springvale: lol
[11:23] Rose Springvale: tanoujin!
[11:23] Sonja Strom: lol
[11:23] You: it seems that she will be away from SL for a moment
[11:23] Rose Springvale: koalas dont tan!
[11:23] Melisandre Stuer is Offline
[11:24] You: yes, she helped a lot to build the Monastery too
[11:24] Brian Livingston: Nopes, we jsut got warm
[11:24] Brian Livingston: get*
[11:24] Rose Springvale: okay, at anyrate,
[11:24] Rose Springvale: the snow creature contest will have a 1000L prize
[11:24] Sonja Strom: ooh!
[11:25] You: where are the rules ?
[11:25] Rose Springvale: antonius worked with me to com up with rules, which i will post in the forums and the platz later today
[11:25] Rose Springvale: i'd like to display the entries along the public way in AM
[11:25] Rose Springvale: as it has the most prims and available space
[11:25] You: great
[11:25] Rose Springvale: query if the contest shoudl be open to only CDS?
[11:26] Rose Springvale: or the first 20 entries?
[11:26] Rose Springvale: we are limitign the prims to 20
[11:26] Rose Springvale: or more?
[11:26] You: well, I am not sure that it is a good idea to limit the contest to CDS
[11:26] Bjerkel Eerie: sculpties allowed???
[11:26] Rose Springvale: i'd love to advertise it publicly
[11:26] Rose Springvale: a few
[11:26] Rose Springvale: not all
[11:27] Rose Springvale: 20 prims, no more than 5 sculpties, no mega prims
[11:28] Rose Springvale: also, i'd like to include some basic construction tools in the application packet
[11:28] Rose Springvale: so if anyone has any textrues they'd be willing to donate, that' would be good
[11:28] You: a carrott skin texture for example ?
[11:28] Sebcaen Ulysses is Online
[11:29] Rose Springvale: the buidiing portion will be open for one week.. YEs exactly Arria!
[11:29] Rose Springvale: then we will have judging for a week
[11:29] Rose Springvale: then the results announced at the ball
[11:29] You: who are the judges?
[11:29] Rose Springvale: well, right now, me. because i don't want to disqualify anyone else
[11:30] Rose Springvale: i am going to ask and see if i can get one of the lindens to help
[11:30] You: you cannot be alone
[11:30] You: at least 3 persons
[11:30] Vespasian Cortes is Offline
[11:30] Rose Springvale: i can be
[11:30] Rose Springvale: but i will get help, no worries
[11:30] You: or a votation system
[11:30] Rose Springvale: i asked arria, and didnt' get one
[11:30] You: it has to be clear before the contest
[11:30] Rose Springvale: so it will be judged
[11:31] Rose Springvale: i am sponsoring the contest personally
[11:31] Rose Springvale: you can read the guidelines. it will be fair
[11:31] Rose Springvale: okay, movig on
[11:32] You: I will. I suggest that you choise two good builders of the CDS to judge with you
[11:32] Rose Springvale: i have one ball and one concert scheduled, still looking for a sponsor for more
[11:32] Rose Springvale: i will take your suggestion undrer advisement, but my current plan is to go outside the cds
[11:32] Rose Springvale: so that all cds builders can participate
[11:32] Sudane Erato: you are doing events *only* with a sponsor?
[11:33] Rose Springvale: lol. nooo
[11:33] Rose Springvale: but that first
[11:33] Sudane Erato: kk
[11:33] Rose Springvale: as i was directed
[11:33] Sonja Strom: to see if you can.
[11:33] Sonja Strom: get a sponsor, I mean.
[11:33] Rose Springvale: the problem is that it takes so much time to get people to respond
[11:33] Rose Springvale: and as i've said for a long time, this is my busy month
[11:34] You: ok. do you have other projects? what about Saturnalia?
[11:34] Rose Springvale: i think tha tis all i have for now. I"ll be posting events and placing a calendar in the forum and platz
[11:35] Rose Springvale: saturnalia is covered
[11:35] Rose Springvale: we will not to the tree contest
[11:35] Rose Springvale: princess and MT are sponsoring a ball and perhaps parade
[11:35] You: ball and Parade are the saturnalia?
[11:35] Rose Springvale: if anyone knows where i can get some copieable skis, i'd put them up. there are skates and bikes in CN
[11:36] You: Yes, I will test skate
[11:36] Rose Springvale: the ones in CN now are to buy, but i've sent a notice on where to get free ones
[11:37] Rose Springvale: so if you want those, and they are fun, just go to group notices for the landmark
[11:37] You: ok
[11:37] Vespasian Cortes is Online
[11:37] Brian Livingston: Bakc again sorta
[11:37] You: Any varia for this Guild meeting?
[11:37] Rose Springvale: i'll get some vendors for couples skates when the rink is ready in NFS.. somethign different
[11:37] Rose Springvale: one other question
[11:37] You: please
[11:38] Rose Springvale: i really need a prototype sign for each sim
[11:38] Rose Springvale: to post events in
[11:38] Draxtor Despres is Online
[11:38] Rose Springvale: so they are available
[11:38] Vespasian Cortes is Offline
[11:38] Rose Springvale: i dont thing we need the big land sale structure anymore.. do you?
[11:38] Vespasian Cortes is Online
[11:38] Brian Livingston: Land sale structure?
[11:38] Sonja Strom: ?
[11:39] Rose Springvale: yoru thing from CN Brian... remember?
[11:39] Vespasian Cortes is Offline
[11:39] You: near the Amphi?
[11:39] Rose Springvale: i just want something nice and classy that is CDS sign information
[11:39] Brian Livingston: Yea, is that still up? I thought I brought both of them down a while back
[11:39] Vespasian Cortes is Online
[11:39] Rose Springvale: no
[11:39] Rose Springvale: i meant the round one tha tused to be in the forum
[11:39] Rose Springvale: that you had perm issues
[11:40] Brian Livingston: Yea, I think it's the scripts
[11:40] Rose Springvale: anyway
[11:40] Rose Springvale: if someone could make a really classy sign
[11:40] Rose Springvale: i'd appreciate it. something that is intheme for each sim
[11:40] Rose Springvale: then i will load notecards and textures
[11:40] Rose Springvale: i just hate buildign signs
[11:41] You: ok. we can think to this.
[11:41] Brian Livingston: What are you looking for in these signs? Multiple surfaces to put textures on so you can advertise perhaps three events at once?
[11:41] Rose Springvale: smile
[11:41] Rose Springvale: nah, nothing that fancy
[11:41] Rose Springvale: just "Touch for CDS Events this week"
[11:42] Rose Springvale: i have a texture gwyn gave me with the logo that can be used
[11:42] Rose Springvale: that's all i have
[11:42] You: I have a question for you, about the radio stream that you use for events (like storytelling). Is that your's or CDS's? I think that I will need a radio stream for the Monastery.
[11:42] Rose Springvale: it is mine
[11:43] You: ok
[11:43] Rose Springvale: you can rent one for 185 a day
[11:43] Brian Livingston: L or US$?
[11:43] Brian Livingston: Hehe
[11:43] Rose Springvale: and i will let you use mine if i'm not
[11:43] Rose Springvale: lol L
[11:43] You: ok
[11:43] Sonja Strom: Euros
[11:43] Rose Springvale: lol
[11:43] Sonja Strom:
[11:43] You: too expensive in Euro
[11:43] You: any varia?
[11:43] Sonja Strom: only kidding!
[11:43] Brian Livingston: Eeep, yea.
[11:43] Rose Springvale: i'd love to see it used more, so if we dont' have schedule conflicts, it's availabe
[11:44] Rose Springvale: serves up to 1000 listeners
[11:44] You: if not, thank you for coming and see you soon
[11:44] Brian Livingston: That's a serious stream
[11:44] You: great
[11:44] Sudane Erato: yes, bye all