Transcript of Colonia Nova Planning Commitee Meeting, 1/6

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Transcript of Colonia Nova Planning Commitee Meeting, 1/6

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[4:02] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: we need a new pitcher[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:02] [color=Sienna:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Claude Desmoulins[/b:6skxoxku]: Yes[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:02] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: this says NB[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:03] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: hello! :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:03] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: hi!![/color:6skxoxku]
[4:03] [color=Sienna:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Claude Desmoulins[/b:6skxoxku]: Hi[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:03] [color=DarkGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Jon Seattle[/b:6skxoxku]: Hi![/color:6skxoxku]
[4:03] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: oh my![/color:6skxoxku]
[4:03] [color=Sienna:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Claude Desmoulins[/b:6skxoxku]: What?[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:03] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: hi[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:03] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: everyone is here :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:03] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: hello! :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:04] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: but of course![/color:6skxoxku]
[4:04] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: hehe[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:04] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: hi hi :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:04] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:04] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: Gwyn and Pat still missing[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:04] [color=DarkGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Jon Seattle[/b:6skxoxku]: Some day avs will move gracefully![/color:6skxoxku]
[4:04] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: lol[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:04] [color=DarkGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Jon Seattle[/b:6skxoxku]: Hi all![/color:6skxoxku]
[4:04] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: hehe[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:05] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: Animation overriders[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:05] [color=Navy:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Dnate Mars[/b:6skxoxku]: good morning[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:05] [color=Sienna:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Claude Desmoulins[/b:6skxoxku]: Does someone want to record?[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:05] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: ahh...[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:05] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: I will[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:05] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: and hi Dnate :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:05] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: Hi Paat[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:05] [color=Indigo:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Patroklus Murakami[/b:6skxoxku]: hi everyone[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:05] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: and hiya Pat :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:05] [color=Navy:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Dnate Mars[/b:6skxoxku]: 4am is too ealy on a weekend :P[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:06] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: No its not![/color:6skxoxku]
[4:06] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: awwww, poor Dnate[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:06] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: Top of the morning![/color:6skxoxku]
[4:06] [color=Sienna:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Claude Desmoulins[/b:6skxoxku]: And we[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:06] [color=Sienna:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Claude Desmoulins[/b:6skxoxku]: are live[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:06] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: Are we missing anyone?[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:06] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: yes[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:06] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: Gwyn, Clarence[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:07] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: ah[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:07] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: brb, glass of water[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:07] [color=Navy:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Dnate Mars[/b:6skxoxku]: slackers[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:07] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: haha[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:08] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: yes... specially since they have it easy :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:08] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: mid day :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:08] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: lol[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:08] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: midday is early if you go to bed at 4 AM :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:08] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: hehe[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:08] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: true[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:08] [color=Sienna:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Claude Desmoulins[/b:6skxoxku]: just a sec[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:08] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: *hours* after sunrise :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:09] [color=Sienna:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Claude Desmoulins[/b:6skxoxku]: OK I think[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:09] [color=Sienna:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Claude Desmoulins[/b:6skxoxku]: Recorder was being ab it flaky[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:10] [color=Indigo:6skxoxku][i:6skxoxku]Patroklus Murakami accepted your inventory offer.[/i:6skxoxku][/color:6skxoxku]
[4:10] [color=DarkGreen:6skxoxku][i:6skxoxku]Jon Seattle accepted your inventory offer.[/i:6skxoxku][/color:6skxoxku]
[4:10] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][i:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant declined your inventory offer.[/i:6skxoxku][/color:6skxoxku]
[4:10] [color=Indigo:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Patroklus Murakami[/b:6skxoxku]: ty salzie[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:10] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: oops, sorry Salzie[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:11] [color=Navy:6skxoxku][i:6skxoxku]Dnate Mars accepted your inventory offer.[/i:6skxoxku][/color:6skxoxku]
[4:11] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: please send it again?[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:11] [color=Black:6skxoxku][i:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato accepted your inventory offer.[/i:6skxoxku][/color:6skxoxku]
[4:11] [color=Sienna:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Claude Desmoulins[/b:6skxoxku]: Can everyone retouch the box please,[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:11] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][i:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant accepted your inventory offer.[/i:6skxoxku][/color:6skxoxku]
[4:11] [color=Navy:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Dnate Mars[/b:6skxoxku]: so, sudane, how rich are we not that the value of the L has gone to 302l/usd?[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:11] [color=DarkGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Jon Seattle[/b:6skxoxku]: ty[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:11] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: sureI can't see you claude[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:11] [color=Sienna:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Claude Desmoulins[/b:6skxoxku]: I still need the agenda[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:11] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: oh![/color:6skxoxku]
[4:11] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: I didn't see that![/color:6skxoxku]
[4:11] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: hee, didn't see the toga![/color:6skxoxku]
[4:11] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: fabulous![/color:6skxoxku]
[4:12] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: hello all, sorry I'm late :P[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:12] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: 302[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:12] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][i:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte gave you Sim Planning Committee Agenda.[/i:6skxoxku][/color:6skxoxku]
[4:12] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: hi! :))[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:12] [color=DarkGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Jon Seattle[/b:6skxoxku]: Hi Gwyn![/color:6skxoxku]
[4:12] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: thank you Salzie :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:12] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: Hi Gwyn[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:12] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: Did everyone get the agenda?[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:12] [color=DarkGreen:6skxoxku][i:6skxoxku]Jon Seattle nods[/i:6skxoxku][/color:6skxoxku]
[4:12] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: yes!! thx![/color:6skxoxku]
[4:12] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][i:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn 's computer is losing memory :([/i:6skxoxku][/color:6skxoxku]
[4:12] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: how do you lose memory?[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:12] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:13] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: I don't know, Sudane. It simply refuses to "see" on slot.[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:13] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: I guess my computer is as forgetful as I am :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:13] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: Macs![/color:6skxoxku]
[4:13] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: hehe[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:13] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: lol[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:13] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: *old* macs ;)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:13] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: Ha ha[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:13] [color=DarkGreen:6skxoxku][i:6skxoxku]Jon Seattle nods[/i:6skxoxku][/color:6skxoxku]
[4:14] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: Someone is outside, is that Clarence?[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:14] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: no[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:14] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: no[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:14] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: not according to my radar ;)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:14] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: ah - well shall we get started?[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:14] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:14] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: sure![/color:6skxoxku]
[4:14] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][i:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant nods[/i:6skxoxku][/color:6skxoxku]
[4:15] [color=Navy:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Dnate Mars[/b:6skxoxku]: it si jonny rote[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:15] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: Okay - As requested by Sudane, I'm calling this meeting in order to organize.[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:15] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: thx![/color:6skxoxku]
[4:15] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: yay :D[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:15] [color=DarkRed:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Jonny Rote[/b:6skxoxku]: helloooooooo[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:15] [color=DarkRed:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Jonny Rote[/b:6skxoxku]: how do i get iun?[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:16] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: hehe does anyone know this Jonny?[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:16] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: No[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:16] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: hmmmm no[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:16] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: I think everyone knows each other.[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:16] [color=DarkRed:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Jonny Rote[/b:6skxoxku]: you dont know me[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:16] [color=Navy:6skxoxku][i:6skxoxku]Dnate Mars shakes head "no"[/i:6skxoxku][/color:6skxoxku]
[4:16] [color=DarkRed:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Jonny Rote[/b:6skxoxku]: but i saw this place[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:16] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: No, come in and introduce yourslef[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:16] [color=DarkRed:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Jonny Rote[/b:6skxoxku]: and wanted to look around[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:16] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][i:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn *shrugs*[/i:6skxoxku][/color:6skxoxku]
[4:17] [color=DarkRed:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Jonny Rote[/b:6skxoxku]: but i cant see a way in[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:17] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: There is a door on the north side.[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:17] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: Oh my, Salzie... this *is* a long agenda![/color:6skxoxku]
[4:17] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: hehe[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:18] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: ha ha[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:18] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: :D[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:18] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: the agenda is short, the issues are long[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:18] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][i:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn sits better in RL[/i:6skxoxku][/color:6skxoxku]
[4:18] [color=Indigo:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Patroklus Murakami[/b:6skxoxku]: yeah, were u thinking of a three or four hour meeting?[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:18] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: anyway, welcome Jonny[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:18] [color=DarkRed:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Jonny Rote[/b:6skxoxku]: hi all[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:18] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: Ah, yes, Salzie, I stand corrected.[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:18] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:18] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: hello Jonny :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:18] [color=Indigo:6skxoxku][i:6skxoxku]Patroklus Murakami smiles at salzie[/i:6skxoxku][/color:6skxoxku]
[4:18] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: And welcome to Neufreistadt, Jonny :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:18] [color=DarkGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Jon Seattle[/b:6skxoxku]: Hi![/color:6skxoxku]
[4:18] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: No,not at all, this si more of a brainstorming session[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:18] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: awwww I love brainstorming![/color:6skxoxku]
[4:19] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: making sure we have thought of as many issues as we can regarding the new sim[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:19] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][i:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn thinks on the way to clamp her own mouth.[/i:6skxoxku][/color:6skxoxku]
[4:19] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: hehe[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:19] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: lol, i knew you'd say that Gwyn :P[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:19] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: so we cn address them ourselves or refer them to the apropriate gov't body[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:19] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: hehe Moon ;)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:20] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: e.g., the politics isn't something we shoudl address, yet we should let the politicansknow we see these matters as issues which need to be addressed[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:20] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: Sounds good so far.[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:20] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: Is the agenda set up ordered by "Priority"?[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:20] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: this is our little baby and we are going to ensure all goes well[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:20] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:20] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: No, not at all[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:20] [color=DarkRed:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Jonny Rote[/b:6skxoxku]: do you all live here then?[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:20] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:21] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: Aye, Jonny ? we do :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:21] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: yes, we are all citizens[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:21] [color=DarkRed:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Jonny Rote[/b:6skxoxku]: ok cool[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:21] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: Ok Salzie ? it's just because some of the items are perhaps easier to discuss than others,[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:21] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: but there is a login to it,[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:21] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: *logic[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:21] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: lol[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:21] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: "login" pfft[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:21] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: hehe[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:21] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][i:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn *shakes head*[/i:6skxoxku][/color:6skxoxku]
[4:21] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: Typos are fun ;)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:21] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: Yes, that was just listed as I thouht of things, or as people gave me input[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:22] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: Ok,ok, leader....[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:22] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: anyways, I'm going to take the agenda out of order as I realized I wanted to cover a few things before we select a leader[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:22] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: :D[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:22] [color=DarkGreen:6skxoxku][i:6skxoxku]Jon Seattle smiles[/i:6skxoxku][/color:6skxoxku]
[4:22] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: Ah, go ahead then, Salzie![/color:6skxoxku]
[4:22] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: Comittee's Role under NL4-9[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:22] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][i:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn *nods*[/i:6skxoxku][/color:6skxoxku]
[4:22] [color=DarkGreen:6skxoxku][i:6skxoxku]Jon Seattle listens[/i:6skxoxku][/color:6skxoxku]
[4:22] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: ok[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:23] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: Basically all it says is "At thispoint, a sim planning committee will be appointed to map the new sim and prepare itsmarketing."[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:23] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: there is a alot about the proposals, but that is all it requires us to do.[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:23] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: yes, since other things are for other bodies....[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:24] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: and indeed... the sim is already mapped by the accepted proposal[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:24] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: eg, building, raising money....[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:24] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: Ah yes, true, Sudane, but surely there is always room for changing things? ;)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:24] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: Yes, but I think the comittee should serve as the clearning house for doing all of those things[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:24] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: hehe...[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:24] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][i:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn ducks before Moon protests with a large club[/i:6skxoxku][/color:6skxoxku]
[4:24] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: soSudane doesn't go insane[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:24] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: The current plan for the sim can be adapted still[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:24] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: hehe...[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:25] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: i am insanity adverse :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:25] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: ;)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:25] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: yes, I think the current sim plan is very doable, its just alot of work[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:25] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: actually, it is good that it is so - easier to adapt a plan than a built reality[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:25] [color=DarkGreen:6skxoxku][i:6skxoxku]Jon Seattle laughs at exchange[/i:6skxoxku][/color:6skxoxku]
[4:25] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: "work" is fine :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:25] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: yes[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:25] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: "unplanned work" is not ;)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:25] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: hehe[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:25] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][i:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn is filled up with silly clichés today[/i:6skxoxku][/color:6skxoxku]
[4:26] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:26] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: so that could be a role of teh committe already - hmmm[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:26] [color=Sienna:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Claude Desmoulins[/b:6skxoxku]: Hence we're here to plan.[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:26] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: okay - I just wanted to point out that the comittee needs to rely on its name "Sim Planning Committeee" as its mandate[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:26] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: Ok, Salzie.[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:26] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: good... yes[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:26] [color=Indigo:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Patroklus Murakami[/b:6skxoxku]: i'm with u on that salzie[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:26] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: and be broadly interpretative[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:26] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: ooooh "broadly interpretative"... :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:26] [color=Sienna:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Claude Desmoulins[/b:6skxoxku]: My I speak briefly to legislativ intent>[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:26] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: that is so that foks dont bitch and moan later about it[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:27] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: :))[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:27] [color=Sienna:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Claude Desmoulins[/b:6skxoxku]: ?[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:27] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: yes[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:27] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: Okay - on to housekeeping[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:27] [color=Sienna:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Claude Desmoulins[/b:6skxoxku]: Nevermind[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:27] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: Um, I will send out an email to everyone with everyone elses' email address, unless you don't wantto be inclued[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:27] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: sure Salzie[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:27] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: to facilitate discussions[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:27] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][i:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn is fine with that.[/i:6skxoxku][/color:6skxoxku]
[4:28] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: fine with me[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:28] [color=Sienna:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Claude Desmoulins[/b:6skxoxku]: Fine[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:28] [color=Navy:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Dnate Mars[/b:6skxoxku]: me too[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:28] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: okay, we have the forum which Gwyn created for us[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:28] [color=DarkGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Jon Seattle[/b:6skxoxku]: fine with me[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:28] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: thank you Gwyn[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:28] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: Not me, Salzie ? lol[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:28] [color=Indigo:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Patroklus Murakami[/b:6skxoxku]: fine by me too[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:28] [color=Sienna:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Claude Desmoulins[/b:6skxoxku]: Using the forum wilol allow citizen input.[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:28] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: we have the website with the proposal[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:29] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: Aye, there is also a forum for colonia nove, which was used at its "planning stage"[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:29] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: and we have the old forums the proposal develops had used[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:29] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: any other resources out there?[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:29] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: a comment:[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:29] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: oh, I should mention the websitehas links[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:29] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: Colonia Nova site must be updated[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:29] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: how so Moon?[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:29] [color=Navy:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Dnate Mars[/b:6skxoxku]: yes, it still referes to n'burg[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:30] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: ah[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:30] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: exactly Dnate[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:30] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: Aye, that has to be changed, Dnate :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:30] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: and who wll do that, Gwyn?[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:30] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: it is also a bit incomplete still[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:30] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][i:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn *scratches head*[/i:6skxoxku][/color:6skxoxku]
[4:30] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: well, I can create more logins & password for that,[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:30] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: well, we can keep fillin in the details as we develop the plan[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:31] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: as well as do a search & replace for N'burg with N'stadt[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:31] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: yes Salzie[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:31] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: Gwyn, was that you volunteering?[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:31] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:31] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: then that is another committe role?[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:31] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: Salzie: it's the same technology as the Neufreistadt web site ? it should be familiar :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:31] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: committee[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:31] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: lol Salzie ? sure, I'll do that :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:31] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: heee, well one must have a pasword and such[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:31] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: thank you, and while you are at it?[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:32] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: yes, although I have limited access to the site ? it's being hosted by Clarence Calliope atm[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:32] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: and yes?[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:32] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: Woudl you be so kind as to put a sticky post at the top of the CN forum which gives links to these resources?[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:32] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: Oh, sure.[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:32] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: thanks, that will make it easier for everyone to refer to the matierals[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:32] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: Although, to be honest, I think that the "old" forums for CN will get deleted, they were only important at the planning stage...[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:33] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: okay - any other housekeeping details?[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:33] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: Well, that woudl be for the devleops to decide Moon.[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:33] [color=Sienna:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Claude Desmoulins[/b:6skxoxku]: You might want to at least save posts for the historical record[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:33] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: Well yes, the forums complement a bit what's on the site... you can have a record of things said and done, etc[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:34] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: You mean keep the old forum as a historical reference? But don't update them?[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:34] [color=Sienna:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Claude Desmoulins[/b:6skxoxku]: Ir at least archive the content somewhere.[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:34] [color=DarkGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Jon Seattle[/b:6skxoxku]: makes sense[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:34] [color=Sienna:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Claude Desmoulins[/b:6skxoxku]: *Or[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:34] [color=Indigo:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Patroklus Murakami[/b:6skxoxku]: good idea[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:34] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: Yes, Salzie, just for one reason: it's hard to mantain disconnected forums, unless I get a way to have all people logged in in one be able to access the other...[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:34] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: Well, I can see what I can come up with...[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:35] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: Salzie: the developers will continue to work along to perfect the plan. All teh developers are in this committee... though Clarence and Diderot had to skip this meeting, apparently[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:35] [color=DarkRed:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Jonny Rote[/b:6skxoxku]: i should probably go now[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:35] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: Ah, could we jsut retain the "important" posts?[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:35] [color=DarkRed:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Jonny Rote[/b:6skxoxku]: it was nice meeting you[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:35] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: thank you for coming Jonny[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:35] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: nice tomeet you too Jonny[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:35] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: hehe well, as long as Clarence doesn't mind, it can be up indefinitely[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:35] [color=DarkGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Jon Seattle[/b:6skxoxku]: nice meeting you too[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:35] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: and Clarence has logged in... i'll IM him[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:35] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: and nice of you to come, Jonny :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:35] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: Oky[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:36] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: Diderot stated that he would not be an active member of this comittee[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:36] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:36] [color=Indigo:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Patroklus Murakami[/b:6skxoxku]: hi clarence[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:36] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: Ave Clarence![/color:6skxoxku]
[4:36] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: another Roman! :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:36] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: I can forward the email to you all, but I can't do that now as this computer tends to crash[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:36] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: oh, ok - i know his agenda is very full[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:37] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: Wecome Clarence![/color:6skxoxku]
[4:37] [color=DarkOrange:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Clarence Calliope[/b:6skxoxku]: Ave all[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:37] [color=DarkGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Jon Seattle[/b:6skxoxku]: Hi Clarence[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:37] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][i:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn winks at Moon ;)[/i:6skxoxku][/color:6skxoxku]
[4:37] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: lol Ave Clarence :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:37] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: Clarence, we are recordin this meeting, FYI[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:37] [color=DarkOrange:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Clarence Calliope[/b:6skxoxku]: I understand. I apologize for being late - Just woke up[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:38] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: Yes, we've been talking a bit about the Colonia Nova site & forums[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:38] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: And we were just doing some housekeeping details first, so you haven't missed anything[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:38] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: uh-huh[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:38] [color=Sienna:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Claude Desmoulins[/b:6skxoxku]: Greetings, Clarence[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:38] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: That's agenda, which we've taken out of order[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:38] [color=DarkOrange:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Clarence Calliope[/b:6skxoxku]: Ave Claude[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:39] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: So, any other housekeeping details?[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:39] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][i:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn has no further suggestions at this time[/i:6skxoxku][/color:6skxoxku]
[4:39] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: Let[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:39] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: hmmm, none for now[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:39] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: Let's move back to 2, select a leader[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:39] [color=Sienna:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Claude Desmoulins[/b:6skxoxku]: I nominate Moon[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:39] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: hehe[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:40] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: awww lol[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:40] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: Any nominations for the job? vounteers?[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:40] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: second :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:40] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: oh drat[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:40] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: hehe[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:40] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: I would second that as well ;)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:40] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: I would also second it[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:40] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][i:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn is giggling iRL ;)[/i:6skxoxku][/color:6skxoxku]
[4:40] [color=Indigo:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Patroklus Murakami[/b:6skxoxku]: stitch up![/color:6skxoxku]
[4:40] [color=DarkGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Jon Seattle[/b:6skxoxku]: I would second, but I think I would be about fifth..[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:40] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: lol Jon[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:40] [color=Indigo:6skxoxku][i:6skxoxku]Patroklus Murakami smiles at moon[/i:6skxoxku][/color:6skxoxku]
[4:40] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: lol Jon :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:41] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: hee, it seems to be unanimous[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:41] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: it's a cabal :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:41] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: Moon, do you accept the nominations?[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:41] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: oh, rofl[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:41] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: Salzie: i do :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:41] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: Goodie :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:41] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: All right, Madam chairman[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:41] [color=Indigo:6skxoxku][i:6skxoxku]Patroklus Murakami congatulates moon[/i:6skxoxku][/color:6skxoxku]
[4:41] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][i:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant sighs[/i:6skxoxku][/color:6skxoxku]
[4:41] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: or whatever the appropriate latin title woudl be[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:42] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][i:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn pities Moon[/i:6skxoxku][/color:6skxoxku]
[4:42] [color=DarkGreen:6skxoxku][i:6skxoxku]Jon Seattle cheers Moon[/i:6skxoxku][/color:6skxoxku]
[4:42] [color=DarkOrange:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Clarence Calliope[/b:6skxoxku]: Congrats Moon[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:42] [color=DarkGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Jon Seattle[/b:6skxoxku]: Gwyn, that too[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:42] [color=Sienna:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Claude Desmoulins[/b:6skxoxku]: Imperatrix :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:42] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: Congrats![/color:6skxoxku]
[4:42] [color=Sienna:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Claude Desmoulins[/b:6skxoxku]: of course[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:42] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: pfff[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:42] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: hee, that sounds a bit naughty Claude![/color:6skxoxku]
[4:42] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: thank you all... :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:42] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: Pontifex Maximus, since Moon also builds bridges (pontus) :)[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:43] [color=Black:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Sudane Erato[/b:6skxoxku]: hehe[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:43] [color=DarkOliveGreen:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Moon Adamant[/b:6skxoxku]: lol Gwyn[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:43] [color=DarkSlateGray:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:6skxoxku]: Actually hmm, I think my Latin eludes me...[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:43] [color=Sienna:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Claude Desmoulins[/b:6skxoxku]: There we are.[/color:6skxoxku]
[4:43] [color=DarkSlateBlue:6skxoxku][b:6skxoxku]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:6skxoxku]: Okay, with that I hand over the meeting to Moon.[/color:6skxoxku]

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[4:43] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][i:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn *shrugs*[/i:1pdbaeba][/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:43] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: hmmm Salzie[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:43] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: ohhhhh that was clever of you, Salzie :) :) :)[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:43] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: i'll keep to your agenda[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:43] [color=DarkSlateBlue:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:1pdbaeba]: and I run off to get a cup of coffee[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:43] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][i:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn cackles with laughter![/i:1pdbaeba][/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:43] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: lol, a cabal indeed![/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:43] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: hehe[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:44] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][i:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn is already in tears from laughing iRL[/i:1pdbaeba][/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:44] [color=DarkOrange:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Clarence Calliope[/b:1pdbaeba]: (Pontus was an Eastern Empire)[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:44] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: :)[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:44] [color=DarkOrange:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Clarence Calliope[/b:1pdbaeba]: (Home to the Mithridates dynasty)[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:44] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][i:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn also thinks that Salzie is a mastermind ;)[/i:1pdbaeba][/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:44] [color=DarkSlateBlue:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:1pdbaeba]: what?[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:44] [color=DarkSlateBlue:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:1pdbaeba]: Sudane asked me to get this organized![/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:44] [color=Navy:1pdbaeba][i:1pdbaeba]Dnate Mars would be laughing, but is still half asleep[/i:1pdbaeba][/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:44] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: i did :)[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:44] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: Just joking, Salzie, don't read too much in my words :)[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:45] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: since we cleared 2 and 4 already (i'd like to come back to 3 later on, after we define tasks)[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:45] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][i:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn *takes a deep breath to stop the laughing and tries to concentrate again on the meeting*[/i:1pdbaeba][/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:45] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: shall we have a brief run over point 5: Issues List?[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:46] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: Yes, please.[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:46] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: sure[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:46] [color=Indigo:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Patroklus Murakami[/b:1pdbaeba]: yes, lets[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:46] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: ok[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:46] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: i think the list of issues is fairly complete at this stage[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:46] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: May I just ask one question?[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:46] [color=DarkSlateBlue:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:1pdbaeba]: Some of this is based on project strategic planning[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:46] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: (this is more a clarification of what Salzie meant)[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:46] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: no doubt though that more issues will come forward later one[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:46] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: later on*[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:47] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: Lets procedd by order in this[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:47] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: so ... Stakeholders[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:47] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][i:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn *raises hand*[/i:1pdbaeba][/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:47] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: yes gwyn?[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:47] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: Thank you, Chairperson :)[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:48] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: Or whatever I should call you ;)[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:48] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: lol[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:48] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: This is more a question for Salzie, actually.[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:48] [color=DarkSlateBlue:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:1pdbaeba]: yes?[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:48] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: About the issue of "stakeholders",[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:48] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: there are two types of stakeholders IMO,[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:48] [color=DarkSlateBlue:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:1pdbaeba]: yes?[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:48] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: interest in the project per se[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:48] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: and financial interest.[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:49] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: So, the issue also crosses over to the item on "financing".[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:49] [color=DarkSlateBlue:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:1pdbaeba]: true, well you would have the current citizens, the purported new ones, visitors to the sim, the Lindens, etc.[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:49] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: ie. some will have an "interest" just because they wish to build or live tehre or host events,[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:49] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: others will be interested in investment opportuinities.[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:50] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: I'd say, let's start (for clarification purposes) with just the non-financial types first:[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:50] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: - people willing to build[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:50] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: - people willing to be part of the community there (hosting events, etc)[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:50] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: - people eventually wanting to live there[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:50] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: And then dicuss further on on the list,[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:50] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: - people willing to invest/finance the acquisition of the private sim[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:50] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: Is that acceptable?[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:51] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: (btw, there is a reason for this ? while the fiorst items fall under "marketing for raising interested people"; the last one is "finance".[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:51] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: is this a proposal for the laying down of participation models, Gwyn?[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:51] [color=DarkSlateBlue:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:1pdbaeba]: Yes, you identify anyone who might have an interest, however fleeting, and think about how they are impacted by the decison we make[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:52] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: Something like that, Moon, considering that all 4 types are all "stakeholders" in the sense that they wish this proeject to succeed,[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:52] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: ok[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:52] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: but recognising different aspects of participation.[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:52] [color=Navy:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Dnate Mars[/b:1pdbaeba]: I would think that everyone here as an idea of what role they want ot play in the devolopment of the new sim, maybe we could start there?[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:52] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: thta is important for the input opportunity thing[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:53] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: Ever the pragmatist, Dnate. Yes, I think that's a good approach.[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:53] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: hmmm, ok Dnate[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:53] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][i:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn will provide the chatting as usual ;) and hopefully help on the promotion bits[/i:1pdbaeba][/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:53] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: <--- no builder and a lousy programmer[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:53] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: briefly then[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:53] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: since that links us to point 6[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:54] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: or we can discuss point 6 now - and return to 5[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:54] [color=DarkSlateBlue:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:1pdbaeba]: I was thinking of doing marketin and land sales[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:54] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: no... actually, I think we should go through all issues.[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:54] [color=Sienna:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Claude Desmoulins[/b:1pdbaeba]: Yes[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:54] [color=DarkSlateBlue:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:1pdbaeba]: I think it would help to know what people think they can offer in a sentence or two?[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:55] [color=Indigo:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Patroklus Murakami[/b:1pdbaeba]: but perhaps we should all say what we can/are willing to contribute?[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:55] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: yes Salzie[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:55] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: Ok, and assign tasks afterwards.[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:56] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: so very briefly all, please[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:56] [color=DarkGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Jon Seattle[/b:1pdbaeba]: I will say that this project is very new to me. I would possibly be interested in helping to finance it and to build (with supervision of someone more experienced). I am not sure what I will do when it exists!?[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:57] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: as for myself, i have competences for urban planning and building - so i can work in those areas[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:57] [color=Indigo:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Patroklus Murakami[/b:1pdbaeba]: i'd love to get involved in building the new sim, but i'm cash rich, time poor at the moment. i would be interested in helping to finance expansion[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:57] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: i'll do the terrain... and help lay out streets and building locations[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:57] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: and landscaping... as needed[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:57] [color=DarkSlateBlue:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:1pdbaeba]: I can't build, so I could help with the organizational tasks, communications, research and marketing[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:57] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: also... try to orgnize the new parcel arrangements[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:58] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: ok... Clarence?[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:58] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: and Claude?[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:58] [color=DarkOrange:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Clarence Calliope[/b:1pdbaeba]: Wikipedia :) And whatever else I have or will manage to research.[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:58] [color=Sienna:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Claude Desmoulins[/b:1pdbaeba]: I'd like to help build, but my skills may be like Clarence's more research and bureacratically inclined.[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:58] [color=Navy:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Dnate Mars[/b:1pdbaeba]: I can offer my stills as a builder, any scripting that needs to be done, I will be more then glad to help. I do want a nice little plot somewhere on the river to move my house too, and I am willing to invest also.[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:59] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: ok[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:59] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: so we have hmmm[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:59] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: to summarize[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:59] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: :)[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:59] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: building people[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:59] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: promotion people[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:59] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: uh-huh[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:59] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: mony people (lol)[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:59] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: money*[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:59] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: :)[/color:1pdbaeba]
[4:59] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: hehe[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:00] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: and bureaucratic people[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:00] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: sounds like were covered :)[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:00] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: Does "research" fall under "bureaucracy"? ;)[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:00] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: i think that these 4 can work organically in smaller groups and report to the overall committee[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:01] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: lol, good question[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:01] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][i:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn agres. It does sound reasonable.[/i:1pdbaeba][/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:01] [color=DarkGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Jon Seattle[/b:1pdbaeba]: Perhaps research is part of building and planning.[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:01] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][i:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn does even *agree[/i:1pdbaeba][/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:01] [color=DarkSlateBlue:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:1pdbaeba]: sure, research can be a service to the builders, promotions, etc.[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:01] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: hmmm, a research bank would be useful[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:01] [color=Indigo:1pdbaeba][i:1pdbaeba]Patroklus Murakami thinks we've made a good start[/i:1pdbaeba][/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:01] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: yes Salzie[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:01] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: Hmmm right, expanding on the links on the current site... add more images, etc[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:02] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: and more texts as well.[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:02] [color=Sienna:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Claude Desmoulins[/b:1pdbaeba]: Clarence did you see this month's National geographic article on research in the cloacae of Rome?[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:02] [color=DarkOrange:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Clarence Calliope[/b:1pdbaeba]: Afraid I did not Cluade[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:02] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: yes all[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:02] [color=DarkOrange:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Clarence Calliope[/b:1pdbaeba]: Claude*[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:02] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: it would be really a Librarian :)[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:02] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: awww that sounds very interesting![/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:03] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: Librarian... cool role :)[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:03] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: ok[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:03] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: back to Issue List (point 5)?[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:03] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: btw, we should also announce on the forums that we're open for more people to join the planning stage on the sub-committees? What do you think? Since now it seems Moon defined a pretty good organisation model...[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:04] [color=Sienna:1pdbaeba][i:1pdbaeba]Claude Desmoulins works in a library IRL[/i:1pdbaeba][/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:04] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: i think that is a good idea Gwyn[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:04] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: If each sub-commitee has just 2-3 people, it might work...[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:04] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: new people should then join the workgroups[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:04] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: yes.[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:04] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: and as you know, people is always need :)[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:04] [color=DarkSlateBlue:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:1pdbaeba]: I think that woudl be a greatidea - esp. as people can donate what time they have to specfic aspect of the project[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:04] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][i:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn prefers the word "workgroups" :)[/i:1pdbaeba][/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:05] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: ok, let it be 'workgroups' :)[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:05] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: :)[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:05] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: ok hmmm[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:05] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: Ok ? next item, "Lessons Learned"?[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:05] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: hehe... yes[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:05] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: lol gwyn[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:05] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: Awww I wish we had our legalist friends around 8Justice & Diderot)[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:05] [color=Indigo:1pdbaeba][i:1pdbaeba]Patroklus Murakami waits to hear tales from teh old timers.....[/i:1pdbaeba][/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:05] [color=DarkSlateBlue:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:1pdbaeba]: Ah, this is looking back and not making the samemistakes twice[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:05] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: but yes, point 5[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:06] [color=Navy:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Dnate Mars[/b:1pdbaeba]: always hav a backup city in someone's inventory[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:06] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: hehe..[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:06] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: True, Salzie. I think that the biggest mistake can be somehow resumed to one thing: ensuring proper transfer of IP rights, and making sure that people get paid for them.[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:06] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: (i am sorry i insist on naming the points... but it makes it easier to spot the specific discussions in transcripts) :)[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:06] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: yes[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:07] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: i agree to that[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:07] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: I have been moving Diderot along on getting us template contracts[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:07] [color=DarkSlateBlue:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:1pdbaeba]: Yes, and being consistent in the contracting of the same[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:07] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: Well, I'm pretty sure that either Diderot or Justice can write a document to that effect...[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:07] [color=Sienna:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Claude Desmoulins[/b:1pdbaeba]: Also the idea of pre selling, which wasn't an option last time.[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:07] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: so that IP rights can be recorded[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:07] [color=Sienna:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Claude Desmoulins[/b:1pdbaeba]: Whats the Notary status , Gwyn?[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:07] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: Yes, Claude. Since we have the plot layouts already...[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:07] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: I have IMed to Zarf[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:08] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: ahhh Claude ? Zarf seems to be a bit silent[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:08] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: but not heard back yet[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:08] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: Same here, Sudane :([/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:08] [color=Sienna:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Claude Desmoulins[/b:1pdbaeba]: Unfortunate[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:08] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: yes[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:08] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: ok hmmm[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:08] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: I wonder if he's still active as "Zarf"[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:08] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][i:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn needs to talk to the FIC ;)[/i:1pdbaeba][/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:08] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: can we craete our own system??[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:08] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: If FR were here, he would say "yes" ;)[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:09] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: and use it as in income generator for the City?[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:09] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: so, this committee reccomends that a clear framing of IP rights be installed from moment 1 in Colonia Nova work?[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:09] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: yes[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:09] [color=Indigo:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Patroklus Murakami[/b:1pdbaeba]: agreed[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:09] [color=DarkGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Jon Seattle[/b:1pdbaeba]: Are the new changes in groups and estates relivant? I noticed the preview notice[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:09] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: VERY![/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:09] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: Well Sudane, I don't disagree with you, but let's talk about it afterwards ? and yes, Moon, I agree with that.[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:09] [color=DarkSlateBlue:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:1pdbaeba]: yes, and that all work be compensated, even if its $L1[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:09] [color=Indigo:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Patroklus Murakami[/b:1pdbaeba]: all work to be the property of the citz[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:09] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][i:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn *nods* @ Salzie[/i:1pdbaeba][/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:09] [color=Indigo:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Patroklus Murakami[/b:1pdbaeba]: *city[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:10] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: ok Pat and Salzie[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:10] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: Jon: yes, they will, although there is not time frame for tose.[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:10] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: *those[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:10] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: so the committe can also reccomend that theer are clear acquisitions of contracted work?[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:10] [color=Indigo:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Patroklus Murakami[/b:1pdbaeba]: yes[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:10] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][i:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn *nods*[/i:1pdbaeba][/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:10] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: I should note that in some cases[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:10] [color=DarkSlateBlue:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:1pdbaeba]: yes, also that the textures uploaded for the city be available for all int eh city to use[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:11] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: the creator will retain some rights.. to use copies[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:11] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: ok Salzie and Sudane[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:11] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: i have some thoughts here[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:11] [color=Indigo:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Patroklus Murakami[/b:1pdbaeba]: yes sudane, i think that's fair. but it needs to be made clear at the time[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:11] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: Just a comment as well: one thing are "public works" (inner city, amphitheatre, roads), clearly the city's property, and other things are "pre-fab villas"; there might be two agreements as to the use and payment of those.[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:11] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: oh yes[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:11] [color=Indigo:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Patroklus Murakami[/b:1pdbaeba]: what can be reused and wwhat cannot[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:11] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][i:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn *nods* @ Pat[/i:1pdbaeba][/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:12] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: 1. my original idea as we made teh plan is that there would be a texture bank available[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:12] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: and 2. that the contracts for buildings should contemplate the existace of two non-copy items - one for installation, other for archive[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:13] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: both great ideas![/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:13] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: this archive - as also teh texture bank - must be defined also in terms of how it is acessed and managed[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:13] [color=Navy:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Dnate Mars[/b:1pdbaeba]: well, what heppens if something happens to the first no-copy build? then we are left without a backup[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:14] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: so... a thing to think about for the bureaucratic people ;)[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:14] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: Dnate... good point[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:14] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: Dnate... contract between city and builder can clarify that point as well[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:14] [color=Sienna:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Claude Desmoulins[/b:1pdbaeba]: Perhaps rely less on the SL perm system and more on contract language.[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:14] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: Yes, somehow, all buildings that are "independent" should have a copy in "escrow", so to speak, owned by the Land Verwaltung group or its equivalent in Colonia Nova....[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:14] [color=Indigo:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Patroklus Murakami[/b:1pdbaeba]: yup. the issues are complex and need thinking thru, perhaps best done by a workgroup?[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:15] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: Yes, the bureaucratic workgroup :)[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:15] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: hehe[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:15] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: i'd say so, Pat[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:15] [color=Sienna:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Claude Desmoulins[/b:1pdbaeba]: See we do neeed a bureaucracy workgroup. :)[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:15] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: Agreed :)[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:15] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: yes lol Claude - you're on it ;)[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:15] [color=DarkGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Jon Seattle[/b:1pdbaeba]: yes.[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:15] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: And I'd love to have Diderot & Justice on those...[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:15] [color=Sienna:1pdbaeba][i:1pdbaeba]Claude Desmoulins knows[/i:1pdbaeba][/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:15] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: :)[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:15] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: ok[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:15] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: i think also[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:16] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: that some sort of provision should be made as regards the urban plan and convenants[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:16] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: iRL, urban plans generally have a mandate as well[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:16] [color=Sienna:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Claude Desmoulins[/b:1pdbaeba]: I had assumed this group would have a role in creating the initial detailed covenant drafts.[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:17] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][i:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn *nods* @ Claude[/i:1pdbaeba][/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:17] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: that means that they get revised sometimes[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:17] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: although with input from the building workgroup?[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:17] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: Ah, good point, Moon[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:17] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: I'd suggest that the revision of the NStadt covenants be done hand in hand with these[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:17] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: Although that would be up for the RA to set up, ie. for how long the covenants will stay in effect, etc[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:17] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: they are quite related[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:18] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: yes, but we as a committe can reccommend a the duration of mandate[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:18] [color=Indigo:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Patroklus Murakami[/b:1pdbaeba]: so we need a bill to that effect for the RA to consider?[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:18] [color=Sienna:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Claude Desmoulins[/b:1pdbaeba]: Absent RA action the Guild sets covenants, no?[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:18] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: ?[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:18] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: they are considered founding documents[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:18] [color=DarkSlateBlue:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:1pdbaeba]: shouldn't the political issuees wait till after the elections?[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:19] [color=Sienna:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Claude Desmoulins[/b:1pdbaeba]: so we could start instead of waiting for the new RA.[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:19] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: yes[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:19] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: hmmmm[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:19] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: At least for CN, that shouldn't be a problem,[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:19] [color=Indigo:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Patroklus Murakami[/b:1pdbaeba]: but is it a political issue? sounds more 'bureaucratic /technocratic' to me :)[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:19] [color=Sienna:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Claude Desmoulins[/b:1pdbaeba]: There's a case to be made that CN doesn't fall under the "founding" CC&R anyway.[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:19] [color=DarkSlateBlue:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:1pdbaeba]: Well, we could start working on them[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:19] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: since part of the planning committee's work is exactly to ensure the covenants for CN are in place,[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:19] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: this is not a politicla issue, i agree with Pat[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:19] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: even if they need approval from RA & Guild later.[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:20] [color=DarkGreen:1pdbaeba][i:1pdbaeba]Jon Seattle nods[/i:1pdbaeba][/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:20] [color=Indigo:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Patroklus Murakami[/b:1pdbaeba]: yes, let' begin work and deal with the legislation (if ncessary) later[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:20] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: we are - i think - a consulting body first of all - if we can save the RA a bit of time in discussion, that is a good thing, no?[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:20] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: Sure![/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:21] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: yes[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:21] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: And it's always easier to discuss on top of a written document[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:21] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: ok :)[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:22] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: so i think bureaucratic workgroup must focus on well on a bit of legal preparation[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:22] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: or backup,better[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:22] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: on "Lessons Learned" we have just skipped "expectations of current residents regarding the new sim"[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:22] [color=Sienna:1pdbaeba][i:1pdbaeba]Claude Desmoulins will be in and out as it's time to wake the kids.[/i:1pdbaeba][/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:22] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: Salzie ? what exactly did you have in mind?[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:22] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: sure claude :)[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:22] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: Just getting to know what people will expect that we AVOID (compared to the current private sim)?[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:23] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: hehe... clouds :)[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:23] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: lol[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:23] [color=DarkSlateBlue:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:1pdbaeba]: I think that was in terms of seeing what we expect e.g., first rights to choice land, shops, etc[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:23] [color=DarkSlateBlue:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:1pdbaeba]: clouds,[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:23] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: i don't think we can avoid clouds in all of it :([/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:23] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: Oh! Ok.... so should we discuss that a bit as well?[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:23] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: (not the clouds, lol)[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:23] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: that comes to the interface issue[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:24] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: different issue really[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:24] [color=DarkGreen:1pdbaeba][i:1pdbaeba]Jon Seattle laughs at clouds[/i:1pdbaeba][/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:24] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][i:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn *nods* @ Sudane[/i:1pdbaeba][/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:24] [color=Navy:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Dnate Mars[/b:1pdbaeba]: I have to go too, I thought I could make do this early time, but I think going to bed at 2am isn't helping me right now. Maybe next meeting is at 8am SLT?[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:24] [color=DarkSlateBlue:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:1pdbaeba]: I was thinking more in terms of seeing what folks expect out of the new sim, e.g., I knew some where thinking it woudl be more commercial[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:24] [color=Sienna:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Claude Desmoulins[/b:1pdbaeba]: It will be[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:24] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: Dnate: agreed hehe[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:25] [color=DarkOrange:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Clarence Calliope[/b:1pdbaeba]: I'll se cond Dnate's suggestion...[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:25] [color=Black:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Sudane Erato[/b:1pdbaeba]: yes... more commercial would be good[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:25] [color=DarkSlateBlue:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:1pdbaeba]: well, the time was due to it being a holiday weekend in the states[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:25] [color=DarkSlateBlue:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:1pdbaeba]: hard to get everyone inworld[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:25] [color=DarkOliveGreen:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Moon Adamant[/b:1pdbaeba]: ok Dnate, though i say it against myself :([/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:25] [color=Indigo:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Patroklus Murakami[/b:1pdbaeba]: there's a case for privileging our current residents with regard to land, choice plots etc but we must also retain enough to be atractive to newcomers[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:25] [color=DarkSlateGray:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:1pdbaeba]: Salzie: almost all the inner city of CN is commercial, with lots of additional areas as well.[/color:1pdbaeba]
[5:25] [color=Sienna:1pdbaeba][b:1pdbaeba]Claude Desmoulins[/b:1pdbaeba]: 58[/color:1pdbaeba]

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[5:25] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: Pat, good point[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:25] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: i think that hmmm[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:25] [color=Sienna:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Claude Desmoulins[/b:3tzabx7k]: Sorry. "typing cat"[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:26] [color=Indigo:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3tzabx7k]: lol[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:26] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3tzabx7k]: all right Gwyn, I jsut had heard that[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:26] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: hehe[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:26] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: we can hold a pre-reserve period, i suppose, for n'stadters to express their willingnees to move on to CN[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:26] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: Right, Salzie ? and it was also planned in order to draw traffic to those shops across the major traffic routes as well.[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:26] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3tzabx7k]: Also, some businesses are to be a franchise - e.g., the baths[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:26] [color=DarkGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Jon Seattle[/b:3tzabx7k]: Will we have busineses to be commercial in those lots?[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:26] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: Jon:[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:27] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3tzabx7k]: we ahve to ensure we get top dollar for basically setting it all up for someone[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:27] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: yes![/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:27] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: what the plan says so far is that the city plots can also have a commercial function[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:27] [color=DarkGreen:3tzabx7k][i:3tzabx7k]Jon Seattle nods[/i:3tzabx7k][/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:27] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: so people can set residences, businesses or both[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:27] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: like in the NStadt city walls[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:28] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: Indeed, Sudane.[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:28] [color=DarkGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Jon Seattle[/b:3tzabx7k]: I am just saying that, because of the center of NF here is still rather empty[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:28] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: as opposite to the villa convenant, say - that allows only for residential function[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:28] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: Ayeeee Jon ? it is :P[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:28] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: yes Jon[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:28] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: but[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:28] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3tzabx7k]: okay - oh, the map at he website doesn't indicate which plots are which[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:28] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: hmmm[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:28] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3tzabx7k]: e.g., prim lots, residential, etc.[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:28] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: it has colours for the covenants :)[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:29] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: i think that has to do with the fact that N'stadt city plots are definetely in teh skimpy side[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:29] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3tzabx7k]: ah, I was looking a black & white print out[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:29] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: yes... with substantial need for prim lots[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:29] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: CN plots are bigger in teh average[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:29] [color=DarkGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Jon Seattle[/b:3tzabx7k]: That is good![/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:29] [color=Olive:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Garnet Psaltery[/b:3tzabx7k]: oops sorry[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:29] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: hi Garnet[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:29] [color=Indigo:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3tzabx7k]: hi garnet[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:29] [color=Olive:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Garnet Psaltery[/b:3tzabx7k]: party meeting?[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:29] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3tzabx7k]: Hi Garnet[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:30] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3tzabx7k]: no, new sim meeting[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:30] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: new sim meeting[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:30] [color=Olive:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Garnet Psaltery[/b:3tzabx7k]: may I sit in?[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:30] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: and i am not sure - now speaking as building workgroup - that they shouldn't be even bigger, or that you could allow for merging of plots up untill a definite area[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:30] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: sure!![/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:30] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: hello Garnet! :)[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:30] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: please do join us :)[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:30] [color=Olive:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Garnet Psaltery[/b:3tzabx7k]: :o)[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:30] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: Salzie, can you drop Garnet the agendam, please?[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:30] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: Garnet! Hi there :)[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:30] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: sorry, agenda*[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:30] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3tzabx7k]: done![/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:30] [color=Olive:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Garnet Psaltery[/b:3tzabx7k]: Thank you[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:31] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: Garnet, we are discussing point 5 atm[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:31] [color=Olive:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Garnet Psaltery[/b:3tzabx7k]: OK[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:31] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: just finishing Lessons Learned[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:32] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: though i'll call you all to speak if any other lessons learned :)[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:32] [color=Indigo:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3tzabx7k]: do we have any idea of demand for plots in CN? from current residents? and from newcomers?[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:32] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: Ok, if I got it correctly, on this point we have found out 3 expectations from current citizens...[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:32] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: 1) more shops[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:32] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: 2) clarify issues regarding covenants, etc[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:32] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: 3) get current residents first picks on a part of the new sim[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:32] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: Is that all?[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:33] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: Pat, we only have so far some informal notions[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:33] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: Pat: you ask a good question ? I suggest a poll on the forums.[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:33] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: that's why i think a pre-reserve period would be a good thing[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:33] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: With perhaps one of those nice emails by Salzie to remind people to vote on it[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:33] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: ok, good idea Gwyn![/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:33] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: yes :)[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:33] [color=Indigo:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3tzabx7k]: good idea gwyn[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:33] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: Question: should we do such a poll on the SL forums as well? :)[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:34] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: hmmm, i'd say no[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:34] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: I mean, after setting up the guidelines for participation.[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:34] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: oh my![/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:34] [color=Olive:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Garnet Psaltery[/b:3tzabx7k]: Forum *shiver*[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:34] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: haha Sudane![/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:34] [color=Indigo:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3tzabx7k]: we should use the sl forums to promote our plans[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:34] [color=Indigo:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3tzabx7k]: and drum up interest in CN[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:34] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: this goes to another rather larger topic[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:34] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: I agree, Pat, the issue here will mostly be: to which extent?[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:34] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: we are in planning time at the moment - though that can be done later for promotion[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:34] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: ah, right Sudane ? ok, lets close up "Lessons Learned" first[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:35] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: *let's[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:35] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: ok, we have a good work done there already[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:35] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: Salzie has put a quite good first issue on "Political Type issues" :)[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:35] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3tzabx7k]: Oh, sorry, I was away for a sec[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:35] [color=Indigo:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3tzabx7k]: indeed :)[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:35] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: she has indeed :)[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:35] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: No, I meant: "RL landwoner"[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:35] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: *owner[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:36] [color=Indigo:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3tzabx7k]: that's what i thought u meant[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:36] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3tzabx7k]: another issue - we should see if residents are planning on scaling b ack in NFS in order to have land in CN[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:36] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: my feeling here is: in what way do teh new group tools help us on this question?[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:36] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: Salzie: yes indeedy![/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:36] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: yes, Moon..[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:36] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: good point Salzie - that can be a question in poll as well[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:36] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: the new group tools are very significant[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:36] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: Moon: good questiuon, since apparently there is now the possibility of "co-ownership" with the new tools... BUT... it's for 1.12.... and we're on 1.10 atm![/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:37] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: when they happen[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:37] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: i haven't looked at them yet[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:37] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: so i am listening to you[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:37] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: They're dramatically changed ? for the better![/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:37] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: The problem is: for how long will we have to wait?[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:37] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: 6 months? one year? :D[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:37] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: hehe[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:37] [color=Indigo:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3tzabx7k]: for now we have to deal with teh tools we have and decide if/how we use our current ways to deal with them[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:38] [color=Indigo:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3tzabx7k]: or adapt them[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:38] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: at the cuutrent rate of updates.. they could be here in a month[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:38] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: yes[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:38] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: From a personal point of view, I would naturally extend the current system into CN (and any further sims we add).[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:38] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: yes...[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:38] [color=Olive:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Garnet Psaltery[/b:3tzabx7k]: If they're in preview they can't be far away[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:38] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: "One landowner to rule them, one landowner to bind them" (misquotes)[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:38] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: hehe[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:38] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: my opinion as well, Garnet and Sudane[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:38] [color=DarkGreen:3tzabx7k][i:3tzabx7k]Jon Seattle laughs[/i:3tzabx7k][/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:38] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: lol gywn[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:38] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: ;)[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:39] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3tzabx7k]: Go with what we have now, and change once the new tools are in place[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:39] [color=Indigo:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3tzabx7k]: but one landowner per sim or one for teh whole lot? that's a lot of risk on one credit card![/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:39] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: Ok, let me suggest something else (very briefly; I can talk with Sudane about this later)[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:39] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: well, I don't see that changing[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:39] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: sure Gwyn, go on[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:39] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: You *can* set up a payPal account *without* a credit card,[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:40] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: or better still: with a one-shot credit card number (I can talk about details later)[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:40] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: this will provide PayPal's verification[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:40] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: but you can set a limit on those one-shot credit cards, like, say, 5 US$[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:40] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: and the number is tied not to a real credit card anyway... as said, i can explain it later in detail if you wish.[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:41] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: So, PayPal will pay first from "currently held funds"[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:41] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: Since people pay to that (either directly, or through the LindeX)[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:41] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: but LL is interested only in a credit or debit card number[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:41] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: Ah[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:41] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: But you can pay from the money held on the PayPal balance.[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:41] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: yes... you can[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:42] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: ie. the trick wll be to ensure that the amount there is always above the needed payment for tier.[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:42] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: with a debit card tied to the PP acct[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:42] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: Yes,[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:42] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: ok[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:42] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: which is what we do[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:42] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: but as said, Sudane, the risk now is if there is not enough US$ there,[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:42] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: it'll debit on your card (your risk)[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:43] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: But the alternative is to have it draw from a) only the account's money[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:43] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: i suggest we move this to a workgroup[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:43] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: can we call finantial workgroup to study this?[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:43] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: yes[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:43] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: b) from a one-shot credit card number that will have a low limit and was used only for validation purposes.[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:43] [color=Indigo:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3tzabx7k]: agreed[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:43] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: Yes, I also agree :) hehehe[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:43] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][i:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant laughs[/i:3tzabx7k][/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:43] [color=Indigo:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3tzabx7k]: there are several options and we need to give tthem careful thought[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:43] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: indeed[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:43] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: My point was simple to show that we could have the same RL landowner, but reduce credit card risk.[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:44] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: kk[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:44] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: Ok, financing (hehehe)[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:44] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3tzabx7k]: Well, we have lots of willing financiers[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:44] [color=Indigo:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3tzabx7k]: someone said we have volunteers to put up the money already? also we have city reserves?[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:45] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: So say the rumours :)[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:45] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: :)[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:45] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: this is also a matter for the finantial workgroup to study (says the person that can't do maths) :)[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:45] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: I'd say we have in the city treasury about half of the purchase funds needed[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:45] [color=Sienna:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Claude Desmoulins[/b:3tzabx7k]: I was guessing abouta $2k USD budget for acquisition, build costs,....[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:45] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: yes claude[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:45] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3tzabx7k]: well, we need to develop a budget[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:45] [color=Sienna:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Claude Desmoulins[/b:3tzabx7k]: ,,,,nd a couple of months of tier while we sell to a sustainable level/build out the sim[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:45] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: Oh Moon ? personally, my point is, is the financing fine so that "can we start now" or "do we need to wait" and if the latter, for how long?[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:46] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: yes Salzie[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:46] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: hmmm Gwyn[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:46] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: i think with the needed organizing of contributors...[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:46] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: there is need to make an assessment to decide that[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:46] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: Sudane: half! I'm impressed![/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:46] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: we can start now[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:46] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: yay![/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:46] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: that's excellent news :D[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:46] [color=DarkGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Jon Seattle[/b:3tzabx7k]: How much has been pledged in addition to the city funds?[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:46] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: nothing pledged yet[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:47] [color=Sienna:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Claude Desmoulins[/b:3tzabx7k]: I don't think we have hard commitments yet[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:47] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: since we have no system in place to received pledges... or loans really[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:47] [color=Sienna:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Claude Desmoulins[/b:3tzabx7k]: Just interested parties[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:47] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: yes[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:47] [color=Indigo:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3tzabx7k]: how should be solicit them?[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:47] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3tzabx7k]: We've had folks offer to finance[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:47] [color=Indigo:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3tzabx7k]: *we[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:47] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: Ok, I think we should create a mechanism for those "commitments" to become solid.[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:47] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: i guess we need an "offerring plan" :)[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:47] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3tzabx7k]: its just a matter of how we strcuture the deals[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:47] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: Yes Sudane![/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:48] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: agree Sudane and Gwyn[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:48] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: Public offer on Investment Funds in Colonia Nova![/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:48] [color=Sienna:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Claude Desmoulins[/b:3tzabx7k]: Perhaps going citizens first on this as well would be good.[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:48] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: yes[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:48] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: (I wish Pelanor or Lee were here hehe)[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:48] [color=Indigo:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3tzabx7k]: yes[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:48] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: I agree Claude[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:48] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3tzabx7k]: heee[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:48] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: so to summarize[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:48] [color=DarkGreen:3tzabx7k][i:3tzabx7k]Jon Seattle nods[/i:3tzabx7k][/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:48] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: Can the Treasury prepare a slight statement to the effect "How to Invest in Colonia Nova", have Salzie go over it, and then email all citizens & post on the forums?[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:49] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: this committe asks the finantial workgroup to: make an assessment of current funds; check with possible investors; define teh investment policies?[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:49] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: yes... thats good[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:49] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: Aye, Moon ? I totally answer "yes" to that,[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:49] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3tzabx7k]: that's good, but I knwo nothing of finance[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:49] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: but subject to the Treasurer's validation (who will sit on that workgroup as well, of course!)[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:49] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: hehe...[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:49] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: ok, Gwyn[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:49] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: in this case, finance is easy[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:49] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: you borrow enough money...[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:49] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: Salzie: what we'd need is just uh "marketing financial products" :)D[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:50] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: and then pay it back with interest :)[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:50] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: lol[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:50] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3tzabx7k]: okay[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:50] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][i:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn nods @ Sudane, old KISS rule ;)[/i:3tzabx7k][/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:50] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3tzabx7k]: well, we need a budget first[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:50] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: Salzie, the finantial workgroup can work with promotion workgroup to draft a promotion doc on that[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:50] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: We have a preliminary budget, Salzie: about USD$2000[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:50] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: yes... claude worked that up[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:51] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: yes budget[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:51] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: uh-huh[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:51] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: indeed.[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:51] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3tzabx7k]: well, a broken down budget for investors to ponder[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:51] [color=Sienna:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Claude Desmoulins[/b:3tzabx7k]: If we set the buy in rate at $1 USD/per 32 m2 that would cover costs.[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:51] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: budget is tied to an economic plan for CN - which deals with buy in rate[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:51] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: Ok, that's reasonable[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:51] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: BTW guys ? Diderot, on the CN forums, has written some thoughts on the budget[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:51] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3tzabx7k]: how does that rate compare to other sims?[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:51] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: what do we mean by "buy in"?[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:51] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: That could help you out.[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:51] [color=Sienna:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Claude Desmoulins[/b:3tzabx7k]: Initial land purchase price.[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:52] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: (and sorry Moon, I've just echoed your words :P )[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:52] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: ahhh...[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:52] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: as separate from those loaning $$[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:52] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: ok[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:52] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][i:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn *nods*[/i:3tzabx7k][/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:52] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: i agree with that as well, Claude & Sudane[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:52] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3tzabx7k]: perhaps we should do a quick study of what others are charging -[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:52] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: hehe... the "Dreamland standard" :)[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:52] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: oooh our resident land baron had sadly to leave,[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:53] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: because Dnate could help us out there.[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:53] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: so the finantial workgroup to prepare a budget and economic plan as well?[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:53] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: yes[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:53] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: yes, Moon :) Most definitely![/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:53] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3tzabx7k]: we don't want to underprice ourselves[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:53] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][i:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant loves to hand work around :D[/i:3tzabx7k][/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:53] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: :-D[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:53] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: hehe[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:53] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: ok[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:53] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: now there is a point following[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:53] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: which i think had political implications[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:54] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: and which personally i'd drop for after the elections[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:54] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: Oh, yes, both points have ;)[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:54] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: Accounting[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:54] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][i:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn seconds that[/i:3tzabx7k][/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:54] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: yes, Gwyn, on a second thought[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:54] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][i:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant just had read one line :)[/i:3tzabx7k][/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:54] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: I would say that we (the commitee) shouldn't address either.[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:54] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: no[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:55] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: That's truly RA matters, and then for the Guild to follow-up.[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:55] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3tzabx7k]: No, we shouldn't, but we should point out to those in power that they need to be addressed[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:55] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: Salzie: oh yes.[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:55] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: agree Salzie[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:55] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: i think that we can even come back to them later on[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:55] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: So we can finish this point? :)[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:56] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: but as for the moment that issue is much too unresolved[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:56] [color=Sienna:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Claude Desmoulins[/b:3tzabx7k]: Same with governance probably[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:56] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: yes, unless someone would like to add something?[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:56] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: Also, a good thing is that the preparatory work does not need these to be addressed *now*[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:57] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: Claude: yes, we were actually addressing both.[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:57] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: ok Building issues![/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:57] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3tzabx7k]: No, this committee is more about hte physicality of the new sim, but we should identify the issues we see[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:57] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: Clouds seems to be point #1... hehe[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:57] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: let me make a brief overview on this[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:57] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: hmmm[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:57] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: :)[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:58] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: this issue is realted to a pre-existence[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:58] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: that being the n'stadt sim pre-existence[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:58] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: this is the main issue for clouds[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:59] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: CN will slope down as regards N'stadt[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:59] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: but it is linked to nstadt's higher point[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:59] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: So, people hating clouds, can buy plots near the river ;)[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:59] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: as for topographic separator...[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:59] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: well... there is another issue[/color:3tzabx7k]
[5:59] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3tzabx7k]: I don't mind th eclouds, as long as I can turn them off[/color:3tzabx7k]
[6:00] [color=DarkGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Jon Seattle[/b:3tzabx7k]: It seems to me that CN should be quite a bit lower. Could we not connect directly but supply teleport booths at the end of the roads?[/color:3tzabx7k]
[6:00] [color=Indigo:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3tzabx7k]: but the clouds will affect the ampitheatre, it'ss a potential issue[/color:3tzabx7k]
[6:00] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: (that's always an option, Salzie :) )[/color:3tzabx7k]
[6:00] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: CN plan was made over a very strict guideline as regards land ossupation[/color:3tzabx7k]
[6:00] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: the other issue is the river[/color:3tzabx7k]
[6:00] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: occupation*~[/color:3tzabx7k]
[6:00] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: there is no question that it should be LL water...[/color:3tzabx7k]
[6:00] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3tzabx7k]: hmm Jon ? it's not easy to do teleporting across sims, although not impossible.[/color:3tzabx7k]
[6:01] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: to have it any other would be a shame[/color:3tzabx7k]
[6:01] [color=DarkGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Jon Seattle[/b:3tzabx7k]: It seems to me that the water is critical[/color:3tzabx7k]
[6:01] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: and....[/color:3tzabx7k]
[6:01] [color=Indigo:3tzabx7k][i:3tzabx7k]Patroklus Murakami agrees with sudane[/i:3tzabx7k][/color:3tzabx7k]
[6:01] [color=DarkSlateGray:3tzabx7k][i:3tzabx7k]Gwyneth Llewelyn totally agrees with Sudane![/i:3tzabx7k][/color:3tzabx7k]
[6:01] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: topographical most possibly would have to be placed on the NStadt side... unless the guidelines be somewhat eased[/color:3tzabx7k]
[6:01] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3tzabx7k]: there is another land issue as well - placement of sim in the map,[/color:3tzabx7k]
[6:01] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: that means the sim must be near sea level[/color:3tzabx7k]
[6:01] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Moon Adamant[/b:3tzabx7k]: Sudane: we can set the water height[/color:3tzabx7k]
[6:01] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: we can[/color:3tzabx7k]
[6:01] [color=Sienna:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Claude Desmoulins[/b:3tzabx7k]: Could CN slope downhill from NE to SW to minimize clouds?[/color:3tzabx7k]
[6:01] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: but there are downsides to that[/color:3tzabx7k]
[6:02] [color=Black:3tzabx7k][b:3tzabx7k]Sudane Erato[/b:3tzabx7k]: if we set the water level[/color:3tzabx7k]

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Transcript of Colonia Nova Planning Commitee Meeting, 4/6

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[6:02] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Claude: it does[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:02] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: it is set ONLY for the boundaries of the sim[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:02] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: i must say something here as well[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:02] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: it does not relate to the sea outside the sim[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:02] [color=Olive:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Garnet Psaltery[/b:3s2bw3mv]: is it possible to keep the city high and lower the rest?[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:02] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Well, the water in the "ocean" is not navigable anyway...[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:03] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: no... but its an importamnt visual element[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:03] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: and that is that plans can be revised - and teh CN plan can be revised to deal with these issues[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:03] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: sure[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:03] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: What will happen at most is that the sim next to CN will have an even lower water height, and that there will be a wonderful waterfall :)[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:03] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: wel...[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:03] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: its more than that[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:04] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Sudane: in CN, the river does not go to the ocean anyway, so there is no problem if the ocean outside is at a different level, IMO[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:04] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: hehe... but there was not enviosioned a "cliff" of water[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:04] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: at the edge of the sim[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:04] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: yes, river is contained inside teh sim[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:04] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Which edge, the one near N'stadt or the other one?[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:04] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Well, the river sort of ends in an odd cut at the border of N'stadt[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:05] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: one issue here[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:05] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Near N'stadt, it's easily dealt with ? just raising the limit here as well.[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:05] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: before i adjourn this to the building group :)[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:05] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: ok.[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:05] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: ok[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:05] [color=Sienna:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Claude Desmoulins[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Yes The rivershould be adjusted so it doesn't pass through the corner.[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:05] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: the thing is hmmm[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:05] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3s2bw3mv]: or have it pass through a bit of Nstadt[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:06] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: yes Salzie - that meets my point here[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:06] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: we'll need a diagram[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:06] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: we can think that - since tehre will be for sure moving-ons of citizens from one sim to the other[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:06] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: that maybe we can tinker a bit with N'stadt sim as well[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:06] [color=Olive:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Garnet Psaltery[/b:3s2bw3mv]: certainly not a problem for me[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:07] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: along the W edge[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:07] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3s2bw3mv]: well, whoever's land is in the corner will loose a little Real estate, yet gain the coveted water front land[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:07] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: if we do that, we must study mecanisms of compensation, if need be[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:07] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: no... its not all that simple[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:08] [color=Olive:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Garnet Psaltery[/b:3s2bw3mv]: The VR place in the NW needs to be lowered anyway - it's very off-putting withe clouds at the moment[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:08] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][i:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn is watching the model...[/i:3s2bw3mv][/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:08] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Moon, what is the expected water level at CN[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:08] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3s2bw3mv]: VR?[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:08] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: oh, i need to check the plans[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:08] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: one second[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:08] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: the water lvel should be 0![/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:08] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: From the model, it looks to be around 40 or 50[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:09] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: so that it blends with the surrounding sea[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:09] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: where we sit now is 178[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:09] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: btw[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:09] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: http://colonianova.info/id6visual1layout1article18.html[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:09] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Well Sudane... rivers are not always at ocean level ;) In fact, iRL, they rarely are, except at the coast, of course...[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:09] [color=Indigo:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3s2bw3mv]: but the level shd be ablt to be above 0m, like in RL[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:09] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][i:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn seconds Pat hehe[/i:3s2bw3mv][/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:09] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: but...[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:10] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: there will be a cliff of water at the edge[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:10] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: You mean at all edges?[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:10] [color=Indigo:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3s2bw3mv]: i like the idea of a waterfal in a further westward sim[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:10] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: river border is along the 100 m isometric[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:10] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: yes... but only really importnt where water touches water[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:10] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: 100m?? ok Moon, I thought it would be lower than that[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:10] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: no[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:10] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: btw... 100M is the max we can go[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:10] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Ok :)[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:11] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: yes, exactly because of that Sudane[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:11] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: you see that[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:11] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: aaah I see![/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:11] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: if river would be lower[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:11] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: you have a vertical sim almost :)[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:11] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: hehe[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:11] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Yes :P[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:11] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: yes[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:11] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: lots of level plots... but all at 90 deg, lol[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:12] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: haha[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:12] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: hehe[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:12] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: now[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:12] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: you see that the linkage is[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:12] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: to west road (at 150m)[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:12] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: and we need to morph the rest of the NW hill in n'stadt[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:13] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: which sits at hmmm[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:13] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: about where we are now[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:13] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: 175 m[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:14] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: yes - 175 m is actually an isometric on the hill... it goes a little higher[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:14] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: 178 m yes[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:14] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: yes[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:14] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: anyway[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:14] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: or something like that[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:14] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: this is too much technical lol[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:14] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: the thing here is[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:14] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: hehe indeed[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:14] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: perhaps we can have a terrain workgroup?[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:14] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: hmm probably part of the building workgroup?[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:14] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: these are pretty big issues... to me at least[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:14] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: how will the plan - and n'stadt - be changed so you can have a fluent passage from sim to sim[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:15] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: exactly![/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:15] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: i'd bring the terrain into building Sudane[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:15] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: ok[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:15] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Aye, I agree[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:15] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: ok, can i call this matter closed, then?[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:15] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Changing drastically the terrain will have a big effect on everything ? buildings, plots, parcels...[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:15] [color=Indigo:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3s2bw3mv]: yes[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:15] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Yes, Moon[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:16] [color=DarkGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Jon Seattle[/b:3s2bw3mv]: yes[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:16] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: land management[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:16] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Ok, we discussed covenants already ? moved into the bureaucratic workgroup :)[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:16] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: here i think also workgroups - building suggests and bureaucratic checks it[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:16] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: exactly[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:16] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Historical accuracy[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:16] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: We have some basis from the proposal, Moon....[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:16] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Ok.[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:17] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Here is where Clarence will come in as well :) hehe[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:17] [color=DarkOrange:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Clarence Calliope[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Indeed[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:17] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: (Clarence, you've been mostly silent so far ;) )[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:17] [color=DarkOrange:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Clarence Calliope[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Indeed :)[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:17] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: exactly, inside the bureaucratic workgroup lol[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:17] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: There are two side-issues here ? building accuracy, events accuracy[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:18] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: well, accuracy is obviously relative[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:18] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: :)[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:18] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3s2bw3mv]: I don't think this will be much of a problem, just workin something into the covenants to "police" it[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:18] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Although the agenda in this point is more about building accuracy, I think?[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:18] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: for instance, in building alone you have hmmm restrictions due to camera, avatar size, etc[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:18] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: aaah that's what you meant, Salzie![/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:19] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Ok, so probably this will mean that, unlike what happens in N'stadt,[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:19] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Well, you have the historically accurate Rome versus the Hollywood version[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:19] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: i'd go again for teh building of a knowledge base[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:19] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: where anything looking somehow central european and medieval will pass,[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:19] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: :)[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:19] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: ah Salzie yes[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:19] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: we'd have stricter covenants in CN? is that the idea, Salzie?[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:19] [color=Olive:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Garnet Psaltery[/b:3s2bw3mv]: No toga parties?[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:19] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Ie having it approved by a Historical Accuracy Board, besides strictly SL-related issues?[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:19] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: oh! I hope we have them![/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:20] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: lol Garnet :)[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:20] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: the developers always aimed at historically accurate as against holywood thingy :)[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:20] [color=DarkGreen:3s2bw3mv][i:3s2bw3mv]Jon Seattle wonders if toga parties might not be historically accurate..[/i:3s2bw3mv][/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:20] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][i:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn *nods* @ Moon[/i:3s2bw3mv][/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:20] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: hehe... jon[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:20] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Just stricter enforcement peraps?[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:20] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: lol Jon[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:20] [color=Olive:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Garnet Psaltery[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Yeah .. lions[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:20] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: hehe yes, and "orgies" were not exactly what we have in mind ;)[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:20] [color=DarkOrange:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Clarence Calliope[/b:3s2bw3mv]: What developers Moon?[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:20] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: You, Clarence :)[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:20] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: lol[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:20] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: no orgies!!??[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:21] [color=DarkOrange:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Clarence Calliope[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Oh heh[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:21] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: teh developers of teh cN plan that was presented, Clarence[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:21] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: (we)[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:21] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: :D[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:21] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3s2bw3mv]: oh, that brings up a related issue - is this a themed sim? or a role-playin sim?[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:21] [color=DarkOrange:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Clarence Calliope[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Well you were one them too :)[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:21] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Sudane: sure, orgies, just not necessarily what we currently mean by orgies ;)[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:21] [color=DarkOrange:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Clarence Calliope[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Aye[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:21] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3s2bw3mv]: e.g. do we prefer togas?[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:21] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Sure, Clarence, of course hehe[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:21] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: aaah Salzie,[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:21] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: lol, yes[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:21] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: now that's a very good question![/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:21] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: I would prefer a themed sim[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:22] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: But allow role-players their choice.[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:22] [color=DarkOrange:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Clarence Calliope[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Most Romans didn't wear them[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:22] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: themed would be less restrictive, i find[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:22] [color=DarkOrange:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Clarence Calliope[/b:3s2bw3mv]: They just wore simple tunics[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:22] [color=DarkGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Jon Seattle[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Perhaps a themed sim with isolated instances of role playing?[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:22] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: exactly Gwyn... people could role play or not[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:22] [color=DarkOrange:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Clarence Calliope[/b:3s2bw3mv]: In fact it was seen as unsavory by many women[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:22] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: I mean, I'll be selling dance bracelets and cigarette holders in CN if it's a themed sim ;) ... but probably not if it's a RP sim :)[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:22] [color=Indigo:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3s2bw3mv]: seems strange that we should go down the road of having stricter covenants in CN when we're considering relaxing the rules in NFS. jsut sayin..[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:22] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: yes, i agree[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:23] [color=Indigo:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3s2bw3mv]: is that waht the market wants?[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:23] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Pat: well, there are even plots designated in CN with an "unrestricted" covenant![/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:23] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: good question[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:23] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: So I tend to favour a "mostly Roman themed sim"[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:23] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Well the ones in NFS just don't work[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:23] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Pat, the CN convenant system is a bit complex - it features even unrestricted building[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:23] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: brb, sorry[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:23] [color=Indigo:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3s2bw3mv]: right, i'd forgotten is was more flexible than in the City[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:23] [color=Indigo:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3s2bw3mv]: *it[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:23] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: So, yes, you could have a cyperpunk city across the river ;)[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:24] [color=Olive:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Garnet Psaltery[/b:3s2bw3mv]: It should be harmonious though[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:24] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: A cyberpunk *Roman* city? :)[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:24] [color=Olive:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Garnet Psaltery[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Et tu Mecha?[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:24] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: rofl[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:24] [color=Indigo:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3s2bw3mv]: lol at garnet[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:24] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3s2bw3mv]: I think we shoudl follow the porn rule "I know it when I see it" rahter then define it too much[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:24] [color=Sienna:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Claude Desmoulins[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Off to church .[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:24] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: hehe[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:25] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Bye claude[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:25] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: ooooh porn rule, that reminds me ? now there are three different zone types, PG, Mature and... "Unknown". I wonder what *that* means![/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:25] [color=Sienna:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Claude Desmoulins[/b:3s2bw3mv]: I'll pick up from the transcript.[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:25] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: bye bye Claude :)[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:25] [color=Indigo:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3s2bw3mv]: bye claude[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:25] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: bye claude...[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:25] [color=Olive:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Garnet Psaltery[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Bye Claude[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:25] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: I have to leave in a few mins too[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:25] [color=DarkGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Jon Seattle[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Bye claude[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:25] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Ok, we're not very far from the end![/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:26] [color=DarkOrange:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Clarence Calliope[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Farewell Claude...[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:26] [color=Indigo:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3s2bw3mv]: have the designers already done some prep work on builds and textures?[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:27] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: back[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:27] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: *coughs* erm[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:27] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: no, lol[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:27] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3s2bw3mv]: ha, ha[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:27] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Although you have a nice model ;)[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:27] [color=Indigo:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3s2bw3mv]: sorry, didn't mean to put u on the spot[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:27] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: lol, np at all :)[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:27] [color=Indigo:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3s2bw3mv]: just checking if we're starting from scratch[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:27] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: We are indeed ;)[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:27] [color=Indigo:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3s2bw3mv]: which is fine[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:28] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3s2bw3mv]: I guess the idea of prebuilds means having as much as we can ready to go before we purchase the sim[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:28] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: reserach work only[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:28] [color=DarkGreen:3s2bw3mv][i:3s2bw3mv]Jon Seattle nods[/i:3s2bw3mv][/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:28] [color=Indigo:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3s2bw3mv]: cos then u can't demand payment for all this work in six months time :)[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:28] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][i:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn *nods* @ Salzie ? totally so![/i:3s2bw3mv][/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:28] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Oh, Patroklus ? Claude's estimate is about 2 months work for that.[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:29] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Usually, half.time building by one builder & 1 texturizer in Sl gives you one sim in month[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:29] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3s2bw3mv]: and having some "models" ready to go for folks to purchase for their private housing[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:29] [color=Indigo:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3s2bw3mv]: (i meant six months after tehe sim is established. but never mind :))[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:29] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: oh!!![/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:29] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: sorry[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:29] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: :D[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:30] [color=DarkGreen:3s2bw3mv][i:3s2bw3mv]Jon Seattle listens to the silence[/i:3s2bw3mv][/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:30] [color=Indigo:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3s2bw3mv]: i'm sure there's no shortage of talent to produce pre-builds for that purpose[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:30] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: sorry[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:30] [color=Indigo:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3s2bw3mv]: we could have a second parade of homes[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:30] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3s2bw3mv]: okay - and we've alredy discussed establishing a texture bank[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:30] [color=Indigo:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3s2bw3mv]: to drum up interest[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:30] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: exactly[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:30] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: yes!... we should[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:30] [color=DarkGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Jon Seattle[/b:3s2bw3mv]: How about an object library as well.[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:30] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3s2bw3mv]: yes, we could have that in Nstadt[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:31] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3s2bw3mv]: object library? you mean common elements?[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:31] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: hmmm, Jon - that actually meets up an idea we had for the theme living[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:31] [color=DarkGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Jon Seattle[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Yes, and some furnishings[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:32] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: idea was that everyone could pick some themed freebies -[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:32] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: so as to get in the spirit immediately[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:32] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3s2bw3mv]: ah, that woudl help with marketing[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:32] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: oooohh... sorry.... have to go[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:32] [color=Indigo:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3s2bw3mv]: i've seen a lot of roman themed furniture and clothing around, should be easy for ppl to get started. maybe we could bring those designers in?[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:32] [color=Olive:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Garnet Psaltery[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Bye Sudane[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:32] [color=DarkGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Jon Seattle[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Bye Sudane![/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:32] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Ok, freebies are fine,[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:32] [color=Indigo:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3s2bw3mv]: bye sudane[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:32] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3s2bw3mv]: you could have cheap ora free toga, then a shop with nice ones[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:32] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Bye Sudane[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:32] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: but as all the freebies would make you look like a proletarian... people woul want to improve quickly ;)[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:32] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: bye all :)[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:32] [color=DarkGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Jon Seattle[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Pat, yes![/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:33] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: although naturally I'd expect that the creative content creators in N'stadt/CDS will pick up the theme for their own offerings![/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:33] [color=DarkOrange:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Clarence Calliope[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Bye Sudane[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:33] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: bye Sudane :)[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:33] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: and bye bye for now, Sudane![/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:33] [color=Black:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Sudane Erato[/b:3s2bw3mv]: :)[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:33] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: (btw, Live Help is baffled by "Unknown" as well, hehe)[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:34] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: *rolls eyes*[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:34] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3s2bw3mv]: That is a good idea Jon, you would "seed" the build with themes objects - yet create a desire for better stuff[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:34] [color=DarkGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Jon Seattle[/b:3s2bw3mv]: yes[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:34] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: yes indeed :)[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:34] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: also check the geocaching game idea... youcould pick up freebies along that as well[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:35] [color=Indigo:3s2bw3mv][i:3s2bw3mv]Patroklus Murakami needs to buy a toga to go with the lederhosen....[/i:3s2bw3mv][/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:35] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3s2bw3mv]: yes, Diderot offered to do that[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:35] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3s2bw3mv]: the geocaching game[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:35] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][i:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn *nods*[/i:3s2bw3mv][/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:35] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][i:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant needs a toga... forget about it matching anything![/i:3s2bw3mv][/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:35] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: :-D[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:35] [color=Indigo:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3s2bw3mv]: hehe[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:35] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: ok[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:35] [color=Olive:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Garnet Psaltery[/b:3s2bw3mv]: I'll use this moment to take my leave :o)[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:36] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Bye Garnet[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:36] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: sure Garnet :)[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:36] [color=Indigo:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3s2bw3mv]: bye garnet[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:36] [color=Olive:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Garnet Psaltery[/b:3s2bw3mv]: See you all again soon[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:36] [color=DarkGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Jon Seattle[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Bye Garnet[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:36] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: see you later :)[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:36] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Ah, sure, Garnet ? Thanks for being around![/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:36] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: ok[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:36] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: shall we close this[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:36] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: and go on to marketing?[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:36] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Sure[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:36] [color=DarkGreen:3s2bw3mv][i:3s2bw3mv]Jon Seattle nods[/i:3s2bw3mv][/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:36] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: ok[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:36] [color=Indigo:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3s2bw3mv]: yes. let's[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:36] [color=DarkGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Jon Seattle[/b:3s2bw3mv]: brb[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:37] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: the issues you set, Salzie, have already been discussed in thsi meeting[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:37] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3s2bw3mv]: I had an idea to develop interest in the new sim[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:37] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3s2bw3mv]: I'll work on it[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:37] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: aaah goodie,[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:37] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: and in the "marketing workgroup"[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:37] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3s2bw3mv]: the "lost city" in Altenburg[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:38] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: but i'd like only to point out that as far as promotion goes, teh promotion group can develop in teh ideas that teh developers suggested[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:38] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3s2bw3mv]: that is, if Altenburg is still empty[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:38] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: awwww[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:38] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: yes yes Salzie![/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:38] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: yes[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:38] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: that is a very good idea .9[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:38] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Well, we have an issue with where to place the Esperantoists, but it still is a good idea![/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:38] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Salzie[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:38] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: very breifly about lost city[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:39] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3s2bw3mv]: yes?[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:39] [color=Indigo:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3s2bw3mv]: yes[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:39] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: promotion group can ask objects for it from building group[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:39] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: even a ruined insuila? :)[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:39] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: uh-huh[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:39] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: insula*[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:39] [color=DarkGreen:3s2bw3mv][i:3s2bw3mv]Jon Seattle smiles[/i:3s2bw3mv][/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:40] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: And Salzie, as for location ? if we place the things for the Esperanto group on Altenburg, we can still use the "workshop area" under the Marktplatz.[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:40] [color=Indigo:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3s2bw3mv]: so altenburg could be like an archeological dig?[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:40] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3s2bw3mv]: that woud work, it woudl also be a good place to do the presales offfice - set up as an archelogical dig[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:40] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: Pat ? that was Salzie's idea :)[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:40] [color=DarkOliveGreen:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Moon Adamant[/b:3s2bw3mv]: but Gwyn is right about Esperantoers[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:40] [color=Indigo:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Patroklus Murakami[/b:3s2bw3mv]: fantastic![/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:40] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3s2bw3mv]: hoping to get some press in the SL newspapers[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:40] [color=DarkSlateGray:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:3s2bw3mv]: yes, I loved the idea from the first moment Salzie suggested it ;)[/color:3s2bw3mv]
[6:40] [color=DarkSlateBlue:3s2bw3mv][b:3s2bw3mv]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:3s2bw3mv]: plus, ti makes the building fun and invloves people[/color:3s2bw3mv]

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Transcript of Colonia Nova Planning Commitee Meeting, 5/6

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[6:41] [color=Indigo:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Patroklus Murakami[/b:m5oa10ez]: ppl are gonna love that[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:41] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: I can imagine Diderot on a Victorian suit, holding bits of Roman columns in one hand and looking puzzled ;)[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:41] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: lol[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:41] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: plus makes Altenburg not look empty[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:41] [color=Indigo:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Patroklus Murakami[/b:m5oa10ez]: lol, gotta get a picture of that :)[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:41] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: and that on the cover page of the herald... heh heh[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:41] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: though we should change the name to Altenstadt[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:41] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: so it can be a prioritary issue?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:41] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: That as well, Salzie, although, as said, either that or the castle will probably be used very soon,[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:41] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: but we still can do something under the Marktplatz[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:41] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: oh?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:42] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: after all, it used to have the Secret Tiny City beneath,[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:42] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: do we have a buyer for those spots?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:42] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: actaully, a dig is usually under a city[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:42] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Salzie: I mean for the Esperanto group, I'm not sure yet what will be arranged with them :)[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:42] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: brb... checking cooking[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:42] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: In either case,[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:42] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: space we got,[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:42] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: and the idea is soooo cool![/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:43] [color=Indigo:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Patroklus Murakami[/b:m5oa10ez]: yes, they are keen to join us. we shdn't let the chance slip away[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:43] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: One could even set up an event for digging stuff under the city hehe[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:43] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: okay - well I need to get relay forLife done first[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:43] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Right-o :)[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:43] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: Juy 21-22 everyone![/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:43] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: (and sign me up for the marketing team as well, Salzie ;) )[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:43] [color=DarkGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Jon Seattle[/b:m5oa10ez]: .me smiles[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:43] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: I mean for CN ? not Relay for Life ;)[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:43] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: okay - you can do the blogging[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:44] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: awww I also want to show off my old Victorian dresses and stand next to Diderot.... lol[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:44] [color=DarkGreen:m5oa10ez][i:m5oa10ez]Jon Seattle laughs[/i:m5oa10ez][/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:44] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: heee, we can invite the Caledonians to bring a steam shovel over and help us dig[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:44] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Tsk. Always work, and no fun ;)[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:44] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Yes Salzie[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:44] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Now THAT's a thought!!![/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:45] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][i:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn hands over to Salzie the Neufreistadt Award for Creative Thinking[/i:m5oa10ez][/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:45] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: heee[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:45] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: What a most excellent idea![/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:45] [color=DarkGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Jon Seattle[/b:m5oa10ez]: Gwyn, with hoop skirt?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:45] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: lol[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:45] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: anyway[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:45] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: hehe Jon ? I have some old stuff from the Neverland/Olde London sims (sadly gone)[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:45] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: calling the meeting into order...[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:45] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][i:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant is a spoilsport[/i:m5oa10ez][/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:45] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: ayeee[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:45] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: heee[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:46] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Ok, we're just brainstorming on the pre-sales but[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:46] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: so we reccomend this Archeological Dig thingy as the promotion kick-off?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:46] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: and a way to raise attention[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:46] [color=Indigo:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Patroklus Murakami[/b:m5oa10ez]: definitely[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:46] [color=DarkGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Jon Seattle[/b:m5oa10ez]: I like it![/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:46] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Imost certainly will recommend that!! hehe[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:46] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: yes, one we get ourselves a bit organized[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:46] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: ok[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:46] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: hmm[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:47] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: Sales - Pre-sales to current NFS owners will stem off the poll[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:47] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: after sales[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:47] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][i:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn thinks if this won't even catch some Linden's attention... they love that kind of silliness as promotion... some of you remember the blog of Magellan Linden when they were launching the northern continent[/i:m5oa10ez][/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:47] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: :)[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:47] [color=Indigo:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Patroklus Murakami[/b:m5oa10ez]: i think there's going to more demand than we have land[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:47] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: And agreed, Moon[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:48] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Pat: let's only hope so![/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:48] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: are there goignto be limits on the amount of land one can hold? Liek here?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:48] [color=Indigo:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Patroklus Murakami[/b:m5oa10ez]: and yes, i recall the magellan stuff. ppl love that[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:48] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Salzie: I think so, but again, that is also a bit of a "oplitical" decision.[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:48] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: *political[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:48] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: Yes[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:49] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: pat:[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:49] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: I would say, we'd start with the same restrictions as here,[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:49] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: well we can inclujde that in the survey - how much are you interested in obtainign?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:49] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: and work from that as the RA suggests new limits (or not)[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:49] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Good idea, Salzie....[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:49] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: CN plan is made so it can be expanded[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:49] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][i:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn *nods* @ Moon[/i:m5oa10ez][/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:49] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: are you going to be iving up NFS land in order to obtain CN land?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:49] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: CN city can encompass four sims, as it sits on teh corner[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:49] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: are there going to be miniplots?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:50] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Moon, is there provision for miniplots in CN?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:50] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: If I remember: no[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:50] [color=DarkGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Jon Seattle[/b:m5oa10ez]: It seems to me that, right now, there is demand for NF land too.[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:50] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: there is provision for prim pool plots using river, walls and roads[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:50] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: ah yes, prim pools ? but those are for the common, city.-owned structures.[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:50] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: are the public builds prim intensive?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:51] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: hmmm Salzie[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:51] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Salzie: the requirements for CN were *very* weird, only 10% public land :P[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:51] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Contrast that to 35% or so in N'stadt[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:51] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: wow that would only coverthe roads and river[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:51] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Aye. It was *very tricky* to comply with all requirements :P[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:51] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: i'd say that as they are hmmm trilythical builds (think the shape of teh letter PI)[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:52] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: mmmm[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:52] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: ??[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:52] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: that you can actually build in a less primmy way[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:52] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: ????????[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:52] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: :D[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:52] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: Um, you said that this coudl scale up to 4 sims[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:52] [color=Indigo:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Patroklus Murakami[/b:m5oa10ez]: i'm afraid i need to leave you now[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:52] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: aren't we blocked in one direction?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:52] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: Good bye Pat[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:52] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: See you later, Pat![/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:52] [color=DarkGreen:m5oa10ez][i:m5oa10ez]Jon Seattle asks Gwyn for one of those.[/i:m5oa10ez][/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:52] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: Pat, ok - i'll drop you an email later on, btw :)[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:52] [color=Indigo:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Patroklus Murakami[/b:m5oa10ez]: see you all later![/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:53] [color=DarkGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Jon Seattle[/b:m5oa10ez]: Bye Pat, thanks![/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:53] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: yes Salzie, we are[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:53] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: ?, Jon? Alt-P on your Mac keyboard ;)[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:53] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Sorry[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:53] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: but you'd make teh CN city become teh centre of a four-sim cluster[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:53] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: that is why the CN city is off-centre[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:53] [color=Indigo:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Patroklus Murakami[/b:m5oa10ez]: hi ranma[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:53] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: hiya Ranma[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:54] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: you see[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:54] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: if we need to move in the future in order to expand, do you pay for the whole? or for each sim?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:54] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][i:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn *waves* @ Ranma from inside the Rathaus building :)[/i:m5oa10ez][/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:54] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: one thing that has always bugged me about N'stadt city is that you have a lot of trouble expanding it[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:54] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: brb again[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:54] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: What do you mean with "paying for the whole", Salzie?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:55] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: I believe there is a LL fee - do you pay for each indivdual sim? or for your "continent"?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:55] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: aaah[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:55] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Each sim is independent,[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:55] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: Hi Ranma[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:55] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: although you can get a discount, I believe, if you buy, say 10 or 20 or 40 sims at the same time.[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:55] [color=Green:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Ranma Tardis[/b:m5oa10ez]: Hi[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:56] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: ok[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:56] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Then you pay the monthly fee for each, separately[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:56] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: ha, ha - tucks that away for future reference[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:56] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: back to order[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:56] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Thus, the importance (IMO ? to be discussed) of having a "single" Estate owner.[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:56] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: So money from one sim can cover the costs on the other sim, etc[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:56] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: can we close the marketing point?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:57] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: Well, I just broght that up to say if we deem it necessary to move in the future, we consider doing it now when its jsut one sim[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:57] [color=DarkGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Jon Seattle[/b:m5oa10ez]: Hi Ranma[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:57] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: and hand this work to the promotion group?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:57] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Well, I just wanted to know a bit about post-sim-launch marketing... what ideas Salzie had on that[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:57] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: ok[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:57] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Perhaps just 2 sentences? :)[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:57] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: Salzie, please :)[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:57] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: Um havne't though about it?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:57] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Ah lol[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:57] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: lol[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:57] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: ok, since you always have those wonderful ideas.... well[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:57] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: another thing for workgroup to focus on then[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:58] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: parade of homes, triumphant entrance to the new sim?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:58] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: The only thing I thought about it: getting some shop space on the few Roman.themed shopping malls, to advertise for Colonia Nova[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:58] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: Ranma, we're holding a meeting for the planningg of teh Colonia Nova sim[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:58] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: we coudl all march from NFS to the new sim[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:58] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: That would be a great event ? hehe[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:58] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: With a legion in front :)[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:58] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: are there roman themed shopping malls?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:58] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Salzie: yes, a few[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:58] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Quality is low, though.[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:59] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: hmm, I'll have to take a look see[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:59] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: we're almost done... Salzie can give you the agenda though - and this will be discussed in forums, and there will be workgroups that citizens can join if tehy want to participate[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:59] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: ok...[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:59] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: Website[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:59] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Clarence did some visits there... as well as Diderot and Claude, I think[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:59] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: ah, website[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:59] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: well, we mostly discussed some issues, but...[/color:m5oa10ez]
[6:59] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: workgroups should have access to backoffice?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:00] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Ok[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:00] [color=DarkOrange:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Clarence Calliope[/b:m5oa10ez]: Heh a legion you say[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:00] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: We can do that...[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:00] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: so they can go completing information?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:00] [color=DarkOrange:m5oa10ez][i:m5oa10ez]Clarence Calliope is listening[/i:m5oa10ez][/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:00] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: (hehe Clarence)[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:00] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: or will there be an editor?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:00] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Thoughts?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:00] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: brb[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:00] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: It's mall the same to me really,[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:00] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: *all[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:00] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: just let me know what you need![/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:00] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: are we going to keep the current site and build upon it?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:01] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: or start a new one?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:01] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Of course, an editor can put some pressure on people[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:01] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: open question. I don't know the answer, Salzie![/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:01] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Although some things are naturally lacking on the CN site,[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:01] [color=DarkOrange:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Clarence Calliope[/b:m5oa10ez]: Editor in the sense of cleaning up grammar and spelling?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:01] [color=DarkOrange:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Clarence Calliope[/b:m5oa10ez]: That's my Rl job....[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:01] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Clarence: yes, that, as well as making sure that content is approved,[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:02] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: making sure people update the areas they're working in, etc[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:02] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: nagging them with IMs and emails if they fail to keep a schedule for posting info[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:02] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: ensuring consistency ofhe site as well[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:02] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Aye,[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:02] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Clarence is good at that indeed :) hehe[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:02] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: welcome back, oh Blue One![/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:02] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: Hi Dnate[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:02] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: almsot done[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:02] [color=DarkGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Jon Seattle[/b:m5oa10ez]: hi Dnate[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:02] [color=Navy:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Dnate Mars[/b:m5oa10ez]: is it still the same meeting I left 2 hours ago?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:02] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: wb Dnate :)[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:03] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: it is![/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:03] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Now, the other question, Salzie, is about the purpose of all three sites (yes, tehre is one for the CDS as well)[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:03] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Should each site have the same info regarding, say government participation,[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:03] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: or just address sim-specific issues, like covenants, themes, etc?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:03] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: yes, well, that might tie back into the politcal issues[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:03] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Or should we simply get that into the workgroup committee for marketing :)[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:03] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: aaah[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:03] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: and thus should wait till after the elections[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:03] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: you're right ? it could be political as well[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:03] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: i'«d say - though off topic - that CDS site can become a portal, with links to NFS and CN and others inside[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:03] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Ok.[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:04] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: In the mean time,[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:04] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: though we can keep plugging away at the CN specific stuff[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:04] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: as soon as we have all the workgroups ready,[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:04] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: i'd say keep teh CN site for now[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:04] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: I can give you all login/passwrods to them[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:04] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: it is there and working[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:04] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: okay[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:04] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Right now, Clarence, Moon, Diderot and myself have a password[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:04] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: we should archive what's there now, before we start making changes[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:04] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: and ok Moon[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:04] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: aaah ok, Salzie... I'll look into it[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:04] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: ok[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:04] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: in case we need to refer back at some point[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:05] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][i:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn *makes mental note not to forget*[/i:m5oa10ez][/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:05] [color=DarkOrange:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Clarence Calliope[/b:m5oa10ez]: We are still using my webspace I take it?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:05] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: We are, yes :)[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:05] [color=DarkOrange:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Clarence Calliope[/b:m5oa10ez]: That's fine[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:05] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: so... maintenance of teh actual site, archiving of information[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:05] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: well, that is also a larger issue[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:05] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: site will be atrributed to which group?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:05] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: archiving might actually be easier ? just write new articles, and un-approve the existing ones (without deleting them)[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:05] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: the whole webstie/forums ownership, copyright etc thing[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:05] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: because it will contain the knowledge base as well[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:06] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: Gwyn[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:06] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: yes?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:06] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: that solution demands an editor[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:06] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Hmm yes[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:06] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: so that there are no mistakes[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:06] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][i:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn *nods*[/i:m5oa10ez][/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:06] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: and Salzie[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:06] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: as soon as Diderot gets us teh templates[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:06] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][i:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn is thinking[/i:m5oa10ez][/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:06] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: yes?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:06] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: for copyright transfer[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:07] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: i'll transfer teh design copyright of both CN and Sstadt sites to teh city[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:07] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Right, that is needed as well,[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:08] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: okay, we'll pay you $L1[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:08] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: lol[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:08] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: and some day the RA will need to set the budget for web hosting, but again, this is not the place to discuss *that*[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:08] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: fair enough[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:08] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: no, it isn't[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:08] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][i:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant is getting very hungry[/i:m5oa10ez][/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:08] [color=DarkOrange:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Clarence Calliope[/b:m5oa10ez]: Eh...[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:08] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: :)[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:08] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: whcih reminds me, all contracts shoudl read payment in the amount of $1L and other fair compensaiton[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:08] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: okay -[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:09] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: Salzie: you must tell Diderot that, pelase :)[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:09] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: ok[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:09] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: Next meeting[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:09] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Question: have we assigned all tasks? :)[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:09] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: yes[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:09] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: If yes, we could set up the next meeting and adjourn?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:09] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: we have since we have assigned teh groups[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:10] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Ok[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:10] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: citizens can join the group(s) they feel they can gve a better contribution[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:10] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: who is charge fo the recorder and transcript?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:10] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: hmm salzie ? Sudane is :)[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:10] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: i can't take teh transcript... my machine can't take it[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:10] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: it's her recorder after all[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:10] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: have a problem with clipboard[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:10] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: I can try to get the transcript as a "backup" as well[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:10] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: can she just pick it up later?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:10] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: uh, dunno[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:10] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: I think so, Salzie.[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:10] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: I don't know how they work[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:11] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: well, can anyone please copy the log as well anyway?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:11] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: just in case she can't take the transcript after all later?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:11] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: i can try[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:11] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: ok Salzie, thanks :)[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:11] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: I will try as well as soon as someone says "meeting adjourned" :)[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:12] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: i'll ask you also to email it to all present, please?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:12] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Although we haven't settled on a date for the next meeting...[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:12] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: next meeting[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:12] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: next week?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:12] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Moon: probably post it on the forums instead?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:12] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: sooner? later?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:12] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: oh ok... can it fit whole in there?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:13] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: question about next meeting is[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:13] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: we could break it into pieces? or put up on the website and link?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:13] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Moon: I have my transcript colouriser script, remember? It splits it into chunks, appropriate for posting.[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:13] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: http://gwynethllewelyn.net/colour-code.php[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:14] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: we're in electoral campaign now - can teh groups meet and do work in one week?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:14] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: so you'e in charge of posting the transcript Gwyn?[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:14] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: ok, post it then please :)[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:14] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: hehehe Moon. I was wondering about the same ;)[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:14] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: Ok, I will then,[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:14] [color=DarkGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Jon Seattle[/b:m5oa10ez]: Might be better to leave more time.[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:14] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: unless my poor memory-clogged computer dies on me when doing the copy & paste :P[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:14] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: I'll take a copy of the transcript jsut in case[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:14] [color=DarkOrange:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Clarence Calliope[/b:m5oa10ez]: Just as long as the next meeting isn't at 4 am SLT, hehe[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:14] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][i:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn seconds Jon, I think we'll have to get at least 2 weeks on this[/i:m5oa10ez][/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:15] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: ok Jon, that is my feeling as well[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:15] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: and lol yes, Clarence :)[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:15] [color=DarkSlateBlue:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:m5oa10ez]: ha ah, that was the only time available this wekend due totheUS holiday[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:15] [color=DarkSlateGray:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:m5oa10ez]: true, true[/color:m5oa10ez]
[7:15] [color=DarkOliveGreen:m5oa10ez][b:m5oa10ez]Moon Adamant[/b:m5oa10ez]: so in a fortnight?[/color:m5oa10ez]

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Transcript of Colonia Nova Planning Commitee Meeting, 6/6

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[7:15] [color=DarkSlateBlue:20awndan][b:20awndan]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:20awndan]: plus, we all have a llto to do, so two weeks works[/color:20awndan]
[7:16] [color=DarkOliveGreen:20awndan][b:20awndan]Moon Adamant[/b:20awndan]: sunday too?[/color:20awndan]
[7:16] [color=DarkOrange:20awndan][b:20awndan]Clarence Calliope[/b:20awndan]: Well I don't necessarily. I don't think I'm in a group[/color:20awndan]
[7:16] [color=DarkSlateBlue:20awndan][b:20awndan]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:20awndan]: plus, we can twist arms and get more volunteers[/color:20awndan]
[7:16] [color=DarkOrange:20awndan][b:20awndan]Clarence Calliope[/b:20awndan]: I'll be around anyway[/color:20awndan]
[7:16] [color=DarkOliveGreen:20awndan][b:20awndan]Moon Adamant[/b:20awndan]: you are Clarence[/color:20awndan]
[7:16] [color=DarkSlateGray:20awndan][b:20awndan]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:20awndan]: Ok, shall we say Sunday the 16th, 8 AM SL time?[/color:20awndan]
[7:16] [color=DarkOrange:20awndan][b:20awndan]Clarence Calliope[/b:20awndan]: Planning and building?[/color:20awndan]
[7:16] [color=DarkSlateBlue:20awndan][b:20awndan]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:20awndan]: that works[/color:20awndan]
[7:16] [color=DarkOrange:20awndan][b:20awndan]Clarence Calliope[/b:20awndan]: Gwyn: 8 AM is fine[/color:20awndan]
[7:16] [color=DarkSlateGray:20awndan][b:20awndan]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:20awndan]: (hopefully Sunday *is* on the 16th...)[/color:20awndan]
[7:16] [color=DarkGreen:20awndan][b:20awndan]Jon Seattle[/b:20awndan]: Sounds good to me.[/color:20awndan]
[7:16] [color=Green:20awndan][b:20awndan]Ranma Tardis[/b:20awndan]: yes better[/color:20awndan]
[7:17] [color=DarkOliveGreen:20awndan][b:20awndan]Moon Adamant[/b:20awndan]: research group - and i'd choose you as editor for teh website[/color:20awndan]
[7:17] [color=DarkSlateGray:20awndan][b:20awndan]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:20awndan]: Yes indeed...[/color:20awndan]
[7:17] [color=DarkOliveGreen:20awndan][b:20awndan]Moon Adamant[/b:20awndan]: since you were already the editor of our site[/color:20awndan]
[7:17] [color=DarkOrange:20awndan][b:20awndan]Clarence Calliope[/b:20awndan]: Fine by me[/color:20awndan]
[7:18] [color=DarkOliveGreen:20awndan][b:20awndan]Moon Adamant[/b:20awndan]: ok... this will be a meeting point then[/color:20awndan]
[7:18] [color=DarkSlateGray:20awndan][b:20awndan]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:20awndan]: ok[/color:20awndan]
[7:18] [color=DarkOliveGreen:20awndan][b:20awndan]Moon Adamant[/b:20awndan]: for teh record: Agneda for meeting 2: editor to the website point[/color:20awndan]
[7:18] [color=DarkOliveGreen:20awndan][b:20awndan]Moon Adamant[/b:20awndan]: so let me get a calendar[/color:20awndan]
[7:18] [color=DarkSlateGray:20awndan][b:20awndan]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:20awndan]: hehe ok[/color:20awndan]
[7:19] [color=DarkOliveGreen:20awndan][b:20awndan]Moon Adamant[/b:20awndan]: 16th July?[/color:20awndan]
[7:19] [color=DarkOliveGreen:20awndan][b:20awndan]Moon Adamant[/b:20awndan]: saunday?[/color:20awndan]
[7:19] [color=DarkSlateGray:20awndan][b:20awndan]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:20awndan]: Yes, that's what I said.[/color:20awndan]
[7:19] [color=DarkOliveGreen:20awndan][b:20awndan]Moon Adamant[/b:20awndan]: sunday*[/color:20awndan]
[7:19] [color=DarkSlateGray:20awndan][b:20awndan]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:20awndan]: *proposed[/color:20awndan]
[7:19] [color=DarkOliveGreen:20awndan][b:20awndan]Moon Adamant[/b:20awndan]: oops, sorry gwyn[/color:20awndan]
[7:19] [color=DarkSlateGray:20awndan][b:20awndan]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:20awndan]: ah, np Moonie :)[/color:20awndan]
[7:19] [color=DarkSlateBlue:20awndan][b:20awndan]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:20awndan]: here in the rathaus?[/color:20awndan]
[7:19] [color=DarkSlateGray:20awndan][b:20awndan]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:20awndan]: mm hmm Salzie.[/color:20awndan]
[7:20] [color=DarkOliveGreen:20awndan][b:20awndan]Moon Adamant[/b:20awndan]: yes, rathaus is fine :)[/color:20awndan]
[7:20] [color=DarkOliveGreen:20awndan][b:20awndan]Moon Adamant[/b:20awndan]: so if we all agree[/color:20awndan]
[7:20] [color=DarkSlateGray:20awndan][b:20awndan]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:20awndan]: and since the workgroups are much smaller, they can set up their own meetings at their own pace.[/color:20awndan]
[7:20] [color=DarkOliveGreen:20awndan][b:20awndan]Moon Adamant[/b:20awndan]: next meeting is then set for Sunday 16th July, 8 AM SLT, at the rathaus[/color:20awndan]
[7:20] [color=DarkSlateGray:20awndan][b:20awndan]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:20awndan]: ok ty[/color:20awndan]
[7:20] [color=DarkOliveGreen:20awndan][b:20awndan]Moon Adamant[/b:20awndan]: ok[/color:20awndan]
[7:20] [color=DarkOrange:20awndan][b:20awndan]Clarence Calliope[/b:20awndan]: Excellent[/color:20awndan]
[7:20] [color=DarkOliveGreen:20awndan][b:20awndan]Moon Adamant[/b:20awndan]: any other point before we adjourn?[/color:20awndan]
[7:20] [color=DarkGreen:20awndan][b:20awndan]Jon Seattle[/b:20awndan]: great![/color:20awndan]
[7:21] [color=DarkSlateBlue:20awndan][b:20awndan]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:20awndan]: nope[/color:20awndan]
[7:21] [color=DarkOliveGreen:20awndan][b:20awndan]Moon Adamant[/b:20awndan]: anyone?[/color:20awndan]
[7:21] [color=DarkSlateGray:20awndan][b:20awndan]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:20awndan]: Hopefully not ? it's been over 3 hours, lol[/color:20awndan]
[7:21] [color=DarkOliveGreen:20awndan][b:20awndan]Moon Adamant[/b:20awndan]: it has![/color:20awndan]
[7:21] [color=DarkOliveGreen:20awndan][b:20awndan]Moon Adamant[/b:20awndan]: ok[/color:20awndan]
[7:21] [color=DarkGreen:20awndan][i:20awndan]Jon Seattle smiles[/i:20awndan][/color:20awndan]
[7:21] [color=DarkSlateBlue:20awndan][b:20awndan]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:20awndan]: Should I summarize the main points and report to Sudane as GM?[/color:20awndan]
[7:21] [color=DarkSlateBlue:20awndan][b:20awndan]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:20awndan]: as well as an email to folks?[/color:20awndan]
[7:21] [color=DarkOliveGreen:20awndan][b:20awndan]Moon Adamant[/b:20awndan]: meeting adjourned - thanks everyone for a great meeting :)[/color:20awndan]
[7:21] [color=DarkSlateGray:20awndan][b:20awndan]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:20awndan]: Do it publcily, Salzie.[/color:20awndan]
[7:22] [color=DarkSlateGray:20awndan][b:20awndan]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:20awndan]: Yes, email is cool, as well as forum posting.[/color:20awndan]
[7:22] [color=DarkSlateBlue:20awndan][b:20awndan]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:20awndan]: well, we are workin under Sudane, so we shoudl report to her[/color:20awndan]
[7:22] [color=DarkOliveGreen:20awndan][b:20awndan]Moon Adamant[/b:20awndan]: yes Salzie, if you please, email it to the comittee or post the main points in forum[/color:20awndan]
[7:22] [color=DarkOliveGreen:20awndan][b:20awndan]Moon Adamant[/b:20awndan]: and/or[/color:20awndan]
[7:22] [color=DarkSlateBlue:20awndan][b:20awndan]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:20awndan]: as well as the citizens[/color:20awndan]
[7:22] [color=DarkSlateGray:20awndan][b:20awndan]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:20awndan]: The End? :)[/color:20awndan]
[7:22] [color=DarkSlateBlue:20awndan][b:20awndan]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:20awndan]: okay - I'll try and get it done ASAP[/color:20awndan]
[7:23] [color=DarkOliveGreen:20awndan][b:20awndan]Moon Adamant[/b:20awndan]: yes lol[/color:20awndan]
[7:23] [color=DarkSlateGray:20awndan][b:20awndan]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:20awndan]: goodie.[/color:20awndan]
[7:23] [color=DarkSlateBlue:20awndan][b:20awndan]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:20awndan]: The End[/color:20awndan]
[7:23] [color=DarkOrange:20awndan][b:20awndan]Clarence Calliope[/b:20awndan]: Time for breakfast I think[/color:20awndan]
[7:23] [color=DarkSlateGray:20awndan][b:20awndan]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:20awndan]: hehe[/color:20awndan]
[7:23] [color=DarkSlateGray:20awndan][b:20awndan]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:20awndan]: thanks guys :)[/color:20awndan]
[7:23] [color=DarkOliveGreen:20awndan][b:20awndan]Moon Adamant[/b:20awndan]: w00t :)[/color:20awndan]
[7:23] [color=DarkSlateGray:20awndan][b:20awndan]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:20awndan]: Time for a *late lunch* lol[/color:20awndan]
[7:23] [color=DarkOliveGreen:20awndan][b:20awndan]Moon Adamant[/b:20awndan]: and time for lunch for us GMTers :)[/color:20awndan]
[7:23] [color=DarkSlateBlue:20awndan][b:20awndan]Salzie Sachertorte[/b:20awndan]: tiem for Mass[/color:20awndan]
[7:23] [color=DarkGreen:20awndan][b:20awndan]Jon Seattle[/b:20awndan]: Thanks all![/color:20awndan]
[7:23] [color=DarkSlateGray:20awndan][b:20awndan]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:20awndan]: hehe[/color:20awndan]
[7:23] [color=DarkOliveGreen:20awndan][b:20awndan]Moon Adamant[/b:20awndan]: and good time too... i could almost eat the cat[/color:20awndan]
[7:23] [color=DarkSlateGray:20awndan][b:20awndan]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:20awndan]: oopsie[/color:20awndan]
[7:23] [color=DarkSlateGray:20awndan][b:20awndan]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:20awndan]: Poor kitty....[/color:20awndan]
[7:24] [color=DarkSlateGray:20awndan][b:20awndan]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:20awndan]: ... but you could try to eat the *cats* food instead :D[/color:20awndan]
[7:24] [color=DarkGreen:20awndan][i:20awndan]Jon Seattle laughs at chairs[/i:20awndan][/color:20awndan]
[7:24] [color=DarkSlateGray:20awndan][b:20awndan]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:20awndan]: hehe they're nice, though, Jon :)[/color:20awndan]
[7:24] [color=DarkOliveGreen:20awndan][b:20awndan]Moon Adamant[/b:20awndan]: funny... they're not the same width[/color:20awndan]
[7:24] [color=DarkGreen:20awndan][b:20awndan]Jon Seattle[/b:20awndan]: They are![/color:20awndan]
[7:24] [color=DarkOrange:20awndan][b:20awndan]Clarence Calliope[/b:20awndan]: Farewell all[/color:20awndan]
[7:24] [color=DarkOliveGreen:20awndan][b:20awndan]Moon Adamant[/b:20awndan]: hmmm must be an optical thingy then[/color:20awndan]
[7:25] [color=DarkOliveGreen:20awndan][b:20awndan]Moon Adamant[/b:20awndan]: bye Clarence, thanks for showing up[/color:20awndan]
[7:25] [color=DarkGreen:20awndan][b:20awndan]Jon Seattle[/b:20awndan]: Bye Clarence[/color:20awndan]
[7:25] [color=DarkSlateGray:20awndan][b:20awndan]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:20awndan]: see you around, Clarence![/color:20awndan]
[7:25] [color=DarkSlateGray:20awndan][b:20awndan]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:20awndan]: thank you for coming![/color:20awndan]
[7:25] [color=DarkSlateGray:20awndan][b:20awndan]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:20awndan]: too late, lol[/color:20awndan]
[7:25] [color=DarkSlateGray:20awndan][b:20awndan]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:20awndan]: Salzie has already gone asleep as well :)[/color:20awndan]
[7:25] [color=Green:20awndan][b:20awndan]Ranma Tardis[/b:20awndan]: right late[/color:20awndan]
[7:25] [color=DarkSlateGray:20awndan][b:20awndan]Gwyneth Llewelyn[/b:20awndan]: And hopefully we weren't too boring for you, Ranma ;)[/color:20awndan]

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