Guild Meeting Log - 27th Jan 2008

[Moon Adamant]

[10:22] You: ok, let's start
[10:22] You: agenda is a bit fluid today
[10:22] ThePrincess Parisi: sudanes around
[10:22] You: as you know or may not know, guild finances are being discussed in a blog that Brian created
[10:23] ThePrincess Parisi: can we have the link?
[10:23] MT Lundquist: hi naftali
[10:23] You: if you want to participate in that discussion, please check:
[10:23] Naftali Torok: excuse
[10:23] MT Lundquist: hi sudane
[10:23] Naftali Torok: the usual sunday crsah
[10:23] Naftali Torok: lol
[10:23] Sudane Erato: hi
[10:23] ThePrincess Parisi: hi sudane and naffy
[10:23] Rose Springvale: wow. so many people in guild.. amazing!
[10:23] Arria Perreault: Hi Naftali
[10:23] Arria Perreault: Hi Sudane
[10:23] Bjerkel Eerie: I have a topic I would like to bring up at the end of the meeting if posible
[10:23] Brian Livingston: http://ngfinance.blogspot.com
[10:23] Naftali Torok: best sunday wishes everybody here
[10:24] Rose Springvale smiles at naftali
[10:24] Brian Livingston: Also ther eis a forum topioc re: the blog, so feel free to post thoughts comment,s or whatnot there
[10:24] You: http://ngfinance.blogspot.com
[10:24] ThePrincess Parisi: thank you
[10:24] You: ah, thanks Brian!
[10:24] Rose Springvale: who adminsters the forum?
[10:24] Naftali Torok: smiles in general to eveybody
[10:24] You: and hi Sudane, and hi Naftali
[10:24] Rose Springvale: i've had a few people mention issues with registering
[10:24] You: general forum admin, i think
[10:25] You: oh
[10:25] You: that has been happening
[10:25] You: let me ask more on that
[10:25] Rose Springvale: okay, or tell me who to follow up with and i will
[10:25] You: Rose, IM Gwyn on that
[10:25] Jon Seattle: Rose, the SC administers the forum
[10:25] Rose Springvale: okay. thanks
[10:26] You: ok
[10:26] You: next topic is
[10:26] You: Guild Board Secretary Elections
[10:26] You: which will take place next week
[10:26] You: i posted a notice on the Guild forums
[10:27] You: please, if you want to run to Guild Sec, answer that thread applying
[10:27] You: let me get the link
[10:27] You: http://forums.slcds.info/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1569
[10:28] You: next issue
[10:28] You: AM IPs
[10:28] You: i have called the Content Archivist, that's Aliasi
[10:28] You: so that we can proceed with the IP contracts and backups
[10:28] You: atm, there appears to be an issue with the Nota Bene system
[10:28] Rose Springvale: what is that?
[10:29] Naftali Torok: lol
[10:29] Naftali Torok: sounds dutch..±'
[10:29] You: the notary system in the RatHaus
[10:29] Naftali Torok:
[10:29] Rose Springvale: latin
[10:29] Naftali Torok: sure
[10:29] You: is... not working
[10:29] You: we'll try and check if there are any other locations of it working, if not we'll have to think on how to register the IP contracts
[10:30] You: more info on that as we get it
[10:30] Rose Springvale: how old is the system moon?
[10:30] You: hmmm
[10:30] You: i recall it being installed here
[10:30] You: so... hmmmMMM
[10:30] Bjerkel Eerie: is this a pryer Meetiing?
[10:30] You: 2 years? more, i think
[10:30] Sudane Erato: yes... was put in while UZ was still here
[10:31] Rose Springvale: okay... well, digital signatures have become more universally accepted
[10:31] Sudane Erato: but it was always fussy
[10:31] You: yes, it was a bit hard to use in any case
[10:31] Rose Springvale: if that doesn't work, we can follow those procedures
[10:31] Rose Springvale: though
[10:31] You: hmmm, can you explain Rose?
[10:31] Rose Springvale: with anonymity it becomes sort of dicey
[10:31] Rose Springvale: it is just a way to execute contracts digitally
[10:32] Rose Springvale: but now that i think of it
[10:32] Naftali Torok: UZ?
[10:32] Rose Springvale: not sure we can do that with the avatar shield
[10:32] Sudane Erato: sorry, Ulrika, the founder of this community
[10:32] You: Naftali: Ulrika Zugwang, one of teh founders of Neufreistatd (then Neualtenburg)
[10:32] Naftali Torok: i see
[10:32] Naftali Torok: tnx
[10:32] You: i had thought that perhaps as a hmmm
[10:32] You: emergency
[10:33] Sudane Erato: some of us don't like to speak her full name
[10:33] You: in case we can't get a notary to register the docs
[10:33] Sudane Erato:
[10:33] Naftali Torok:
[10:33] You: we could perhaps ask the SC to create a locked thread for those in our forums
[10:33] Naftali Torok: feels like voldemar...
[10:33] Rose Springvale: that's a good idea moon
[10:33] You: but i am not sure if this could be done
[10:33] You: well, technically, it can of course
[10:34] Rose Springvale: wb bjerkel
[10:34] You: not sure if teh forums rules allow that, and not sure if
[10:34] Bjerkel Eerie: my computere is overheating
[10:34] Pip Torok: Hi Bob!
[10:35] Pip Torok: I f youre looking for the school its this way
[10:35] You: the contracts would have to be public, i don't think that would be a problem, but would need to know what you guys think
[10:35] Naftali Torok: smiles at bob and pip
[10:35] You decline News from A group member named Straad Tomsen.
[10:35] PMRobert Walpole: hey pip
[10:35] You: hello Pip and PM Robert
[10:35] Jon Seattle: fine with me.
[10:35] ThePrincess Parisi: hi PM welcome
[10:35] Rose Springvale: hi guys! welcome
[10:36] ThePrincess Parisi: you are welcome to sit in
[10:36] PMRobert Walpole: Hello
[10:36] You: indeed
[10:36] MT Lundquist: hi PM
[10:36] Arria Perreault: Hi Pip, Hi PMRobert
[10:36] MT Lundquist: pip
[10:36] Pip Torok: hi!
[10:36] PMRobert Walpole: Nice to meet all of you!
[10:36] You: welcome everyone, this is a Guild Meeting and as so, recorded and transcripted into our forums
[10:36] ThePrincess Parisi: PMR lives in CN
[10:36] ThePrincess Parisi: he has a place a shop with Ludo
[10:37] Rose Springvale: and Pip lives in NFS..
[10:37] Arria Perreault: many new citizen. nice to meet you
[10:37] Pip Torok: tks
[10:37] Rose Springvale: yes .. we are working on a party for them
[10:37] Arria Perreault: Great idea
[10:37] PMRobert Walpole: Thank you. I hope we're not disturbing.
[10:37] Pip Torok: ibid
[10:38] ThePrincess Parisi: good idea
[10:38] Arria Perreault: I have to go. See you soon.
[10:38] You: you don't disturb at all
[10:38] MT Lundquist: bye arria
[10:38] You: thanks Arria
[10:38] Jon Seattle: Bye Arria
[10:38] Rose Springvale: bye arria
[10:38] ThePrincess Parisi: bye arria
[10:38] Arun Botha: bye arria
[10:38] You: ok guys
[10:38] Pip Torok: bye
[10:38] Arria Perreault: bye bye all
[10:38] You: in any case, we will try and check if NB notary is still working
[10:39] You: if not, we'll check with SC to see if the forum rules allow a contract registry thread to be created
[10:39] Naftali Torok: ok
[10:39] You: (you remember the discussion because of OUR thread
[10:39] Rose Springvale: smile
[10:39] Rose Springvale: we are so radical too
[10:39] You: ok hmmm
[10:40] You: Altenstadt re-deployment
[10:40] You: please check the thread
[10:40] You: http://forums.slcds.info/viewtopic.php? ... a&start=15
[10:41] Naftali Torok: tnx moon
[10:41] You: where Sleazy has published the map for the redevelopment of Altenstadt area in Neufreistadt
[10:41] You: and please fill in your comments
[10:41] You: (i have to do that too)
[10:41] Pip Torok: will the residents affected learn about it?
[10:42] You: we'll try and aim for a decision at next meeting
[10:42] You: there's no residents in that area Pip
[10:42] Pip Torok: right ..
[10:42] You: it was a neighbourhood that belonged to a single citizen
[10:42] You: who left
[10:42] Pip Torok: remember
[10:42] You: and we've been trying to think ever since what to do about it
[10:43] Rose Springvale: He brings up a good point though.. so many people don't read forums.. do you want me to do something to encourage participation?
[10:43] You: Sleazy's plan is to make it a residential area, but with somewhat bigger plots, a public pond
[10:43] Pip Torok: BTW any point of info let me know after the meeting
[10:43] Pip Torok: it wont waste time then ,...
[10:43] You: hmmm, dunno, what do you think?
[10:43] You: i mean, that thread is OLD
[10:43] Rose Springvale: i know
[10:43] Naftali Torok: ok
[10:43] Rose Springvale: maybe a publc service announcement
[10:44] Rose Springvale: with a link to forums?
[10:44] ThePrincess Parisi: how large are the plots
[10:44] Brian Livingston: There could be a public notice on teh CDS group directing peopel to that thread?
[10:44] Rose Springvale: that's what i was thinking brian
[10:44] You: ok, it can be a good idea
[10:44] Brian Livingston: Sorry, a few seconds lat I am :p
[10:44] Brian Livingston: late
[10:44] You: seeing we have new citizens who may be interested in teh discussion
[10:44] Rose Springvale: let me see what comes out of RA too.. then i could just do one.. people have complained about spam lol
[10:44] You: ah
[10:44] You: ah, btw
[10:45] You: it's a two page thread, better make an alert to that
[10:45] Rose Springvale: okay
[10:45] Sudane Erato: couldn't we just have a campaign for people to participate in the forums?
[10:45] Rose Springvale: well,
[10:45] Sudane Erato: or AT LEAST read them?
[10:45] Rose Springvale: smile
[10:45] ThePrincess Parisi: good idea
[10:45] Rose Springvale: it is a bit like our laudry though sudane
[10:46] Rose Springvale: not sure it's our best .. representation
[10:46] Sudane Erato: hehe
[10:46] You: well, the city and sim planning forums are generally quite well read and commented
[10:46] Sudane Erato: they are our "public" forum
[10:46] Rose Springvale: okay, we'll highlight them Moon
[10:46] You: haven't yet read your thread Sudane
[10:46] Sudane Erato: our newspaparer" as it were
[10:46] Rose Springvale: smile
[10:47] You: sometimes a bit tabloid-ish
[10:47] Rose Springvale: Danton is thinking of starting another btw
[10:47] Sudane Erato: haha
[10:47] You: another forum?
[10:47] ThePrincess Parisi: danton is.............lol
[10:47] You: or a newspaper proper?
[10:47] Rose Springvale: no newspaper
[10:47] Sudane Erato: great!
[10:47] You: newspaper is interesting indeed
[10:47] Rose Springvale: yes
[10:47] You: a blog?
[10:47] You: or inworld?
[10:47] Rose Springvale: no, he has blog
[10:47] Rose Springvale: this would be inworld
[10:47] You have offered friendship to PMRobert Walpole
[10:48] Rose Springvale: something fun if anyone wants to work with him. he's wonderful
[10:48] You: ok
[10:48] Rose Springvale: wants to take on Prok lol
[10:48] You: well, it can indeed be registered in the transcript
[10:48] ThePrincess Parisi: his blog is funny
[10:48] You: everyone wanting to help Danton on teh newspaper, call him
[10:48] You: ok guys
[10:48] You: two issues more
[10:49] Rose Springvale: sorry, digressions :: hanging head::
[10:49] You: one: Guild space
[10:49] You: this building here
[10:49] You: we need to have a plan on how to use it... since we only use this room
[10:49] You: i am sending this topic also to financial discussion
[10:49] Jon Seattle: Ah, a very good idea.
[10:49] Pip Torok: erm its called a _school_ ...
[10:50] You: yes, that's teh old signs
[10:50] You: which we haven't taken yet
[10:50] Jon Seattle: Well, it should be a school again
[10:50] You: and besides, teh Guild will have an educational function as well
[10:50] Sudane Erato: there ARE classrooms
[10:50] Rose Springvale: has there been movement on certification by faculty?
[10:51] You: everyone interested in giving classes please call Arria Perrault, who is the Faculty Chair
[10:51] You: Rose: no - my fault there
[10:51] Naftali Torok: ok
[10:51] You: let em make a note, becaus ei forgot to last meeting, and so i forgot
[10:52] Jon Seattle: I volunteer to teach a programming class if that comes together
[10:52] Rose Springvale wonders if she complains about the weather in texas if that would be moon's fault too
[10:52] Naftali Torok: i have a plan , if i can get my technical stuff together in rl , to start musical classes
[10:52] You: oh Jon, Naftali, taht would be great
[10:52] Rose Springvale: yah!
[10:52] Naftali Torok: would love to attent jon
[10:52] Jon Seattle: Great
[10:52] Rose Springvale: everyone remember that i have a stream available if you can use it
[10:52] Naftali Torok: or mey bestarting with a lecture at least
[10:52] Naftali Torok: good to know
[10:53] Jon Seattle wets his hands in the stream
[10:53] Rose Springvale: lol
[10:53] Naftali Torok: lol
[10:53] You: thanks Rose
[10:53] Rose Springvale: yvw
[10:53] You: Guild logo contest
[10:53] Naftali Torok: is that tghe stream we used wit alex for the galleria opening concert?
[10:53] Rose Springvale: bjerkel, your item goes here
[10:54] You: haven't yet started the doc for teh contest, again, i apologize
[10:54] Rose Springvale: yes naftali, alex has used it
[10:54] Naftali Torok: ok clear
[10:54] Bjerkel Eerie: I hve teh floor?
[10:54] Jon Seattle: Oh, Moon, you have to get other people doing things for you
[10:54] Naftali Torok: i know the key info:)
[10:54] Rose Springvale: lol
[10:54] Rose Springvale: oh
[10:54] Rose Springvale: it is mine, so just check with me first please
[10:54] Rose Springvale: bjerkel has a great idea
[10:54] Naftali Torok: of course always
[10:55] Rose Springvale: in conjunction with the logo contest
[10:55] You: ehehe i always try that other people do things for me
[10:55] Jon Seattle smiles at Moon
[10:55] You: but the two issues are related - certification by faculty and guild logo - so i have to think a bit in both of them
[10:56] Rose Springvale: well, bjerkel's is more in connection with the quality cerification issue
[10:56] Rose Springvale: pokes bjerkel
[10:56] Rose Springvale: lol
[10:57] Rose Springvale: okay, i guess it will wait
[10:57] Bjerkel Eerie: Hope I dont crash
[10:57] You: ah yes
[10:57] Bjerkel Eerie: do I have the floor?
[10:57] Naftali Torok: stay with us bjerkel
[10:57] You: Bjerkel, yes, i'd love to hear you on this
[10:58] Bjerkel Eerie: I would like to suggest that the guild become teh mrketer of Greentags inSL
[10:58] Bjerkel Eerie: Reneable energy credits
[10:58] Jon Seattle: Ah, interesting!
[10:58] Sudane Erato: yes... i agree... very interesting
[10:59] Bjerkel Eerie: we can buy them form organizations like teh Bonniville enviornmental fon undation
[10:59] You: ah, interesting
[10:59] Bjerkel Eerie: and resell them with an appropriate margin
[10:59] Arun Botha: it is - but is there anyway to demonstrate something green ourselves rather than just resell?
[10:59] You: interesting indeed
[10:59] Arun Botha: lead by example
[10:59] Rose Springvale: smiles
[10:59] Bjerkel Eerie: your really need to visit my energy prk Arun
[10:59] Pip Torok: like the clear atmospher of NFS??
[11:00] ThePrincess Parisi: oh you should Artun.. great ideas
[11:00] Rose Springvale: yo'll love it
[11:00] Arun Botha: i would love to - im the newbie here !
[11:00] Pip Torok: plus me as well arun!
[11:00] Rose Springvale: there are a few of you here who are new
[11:00] Arun Botha: apologies if every now and then i say the obvious
[11:00] Bjerkel Eerie: the greentags are important becuse they are bridge to RL activism
[11:01] Pip Torok: quite but dont forget
[11:01] Bjerkel Eerie: our ulitimate goal should be to forse teh LL to green teh whole grid
[11:01] Pip Torok: local greenactivist hav a fulltime RL campaign job 2 do
[11:01] Rose Springvale: force.. hmm. encourage?
[11:02] Bjerkel Eerie: whichever Rose LOL
[11:02] Arun Botha: i second the word encourage! lol
[11:02] Rose Springvale: smiles
[11:02] ThePrincess Parisi: sgrins
[11:03] ThePrincess Parisi: well.........
[11:03] Bjerkel Eerie: its a sidebar discusscusion but we have presious little tme left to just "Encourage"
[11:03] ThePrincess Parisi: oh my
[11:03] PMRobert Walpole: that doesnt soud very encouraging...
[11:04] ThePrincess Parisi: so close the grid thenstop using electricity all of us
[11:04] Bjerkel Eerie: PP my computer dn my whole rl home rusn on solar
[11:04] You: well, Bjerkel
[11:04] ThePrincess Parisi: i should have stopped at oh my
[11:04] ThePrincess Parisi: sorry
[11:05] You: could you please draft something for us to tell us how could this happen, and what would we need to do?
[11:05] Bjerkel Eerie: we can buy tags for 25usd form the foundation adn resell tehm for 50 sud or what wever we deside is reasonalbe margin
[11:05] Pip Torok: The problem is tho that were from all over and hav totally
[11:05] Pip Torok: different life styles
[11:06] Bjerkel Eerie: 50 usd to power a sim is very reasonable
[11:06] Jon Seattle: Sounds very promsing. I have to run, nice to see you all.
[11:06] You: indeed it is
[11:06] Bjerkel Eerie: yes but sims everyshere use the same mount of energy
[11:06] Rose Springvale: Bjerkel, maybe you could write up an explanation of how it would work and post for us?
[11:06] You: ah, RA starting?
[11:06] Pip Torok: cheers Jon!
[11:06] MT Lundquist: bye jon
[11:06] Jon Seattle: RA canceled today
[11:07] Jon Seattle: Bye
[11:07] Jon Seattle:
[11:07] Rose Springvale: ah, good, a day off!
[11:07] Rose Springvale: bye!
[11:07] You: oh
[11:07] You: ok guys
[11:08] You: any other business before we adjourn this meeting?
[11:08] Naftali Torok: bye jon
[11:08] Rose Springvale: nope, thanks Moon
[11:08] Rose Springvale: do you want a motion?
[11:08] Bjerkel Eerie: thank you for everything you do moon
[11:08] You: no no sorry
[11:09] You: lol, we're adjourned, no need for formalities