Interesting Conclusion to RA meeting

[Beathan]

[14:27] Yogeswari Padar: PLEASE, folks - it is VERY late in the UK and the rest of europe - please try to have some consideration
[14:27] ThePrincess Parisi: pat we can be voted out if we are ambusing
[14:27] You: yes -- it is very late across the pond
[14:27] Patroklus Murakami: but i'll bear that in mind when putting the agenda together next time
[14:27] ThePrincess Parisi: why dont you want us to have it, you can kick us out if we ambush you
[14:27] You: Pat -- I think that item 6 on m proposal covers that
[14:27] MT Lundquist: this is simple pat
[14:27] ThePrincess Parisi: you said that three weeks ago
[14:27] MT Lundquist: you have to let us vote on this
[14:28] You: as long as it is a discussion only period -- there is not much rea harm even if there is an ambush
[14:28] MT Lundquist: read the ra rules
[14:28] ThePrincess Parisi: i vote that beathans bill is on frist next week
[14:28] Pip Torok: permission to speak, chairman
[14:28] Patroklus Murakami: well, i've seen your vote. but i need to go now so goodbye
[14:28] ThePrincess Parisi: what about beathans
[14:28] You: I will add and clarify it betwen now and then
[14:28] ThePrincess Parisi: let the citizen speak
[14:29] Patroklus Murakami: goodnight folks
[14:29] Yogeswari Padar: good night pat, thank you
[14:29] ThePrincess Parisi: pip please talk, im not the chairman but i do want to hear
[14:29] Jon Seattle: Goodnight Pat
[14:29] ThePrincess Parisi: i think everyone does
[14:29] Sonja Strom: sure
[14:30] Pip Torok: is the meeting over?
[14:30] ThePrincess Parisi: you can talk we are here
[14:30] Cindy Ecksol: wow!!!!!
[14:30] ThePrincess Parisi: pat left
[14:30] MT Lundquist: formally yes
[14:30] You: did the LRA leave without adjourning the meeting?
[14:30] ThePrincess Parisi: yes he did
[14:30] MT Lundquist: but we can still hear you
[14:30] Sonja Strom: yes
[14:30] Sonja Strom: we are still here
[14:30] Pip Torok: if the meeting IS over then ill say
[14:30] You: Ok -- I move that we do not adjourn -- but continue this meeting until the scheudle time next week
[14:30] ThePrincess Parisi: we all want to hear you pop
[14:30] ThePrincess Parisi: yes beathan second
[14:30] ThePrincess Parisi: pip
[14:30] Cindy Ecksol thinks the RA is still in session until it adjourns
[14:30] Sonja Strom: heehee Beathan
[14:30] MT Lundquist: i agree
[14:31] You: no need for the LRA to publish an new agenda -- we should continue with the current agenda wehere we left it
[14:31] Gwyneth Llewelyn: You'll have to elect a temporary LRA
[14:31] ThePrincess Parisi: all nighter.. starbuckstyle
[14:31] You: which is at the Process bill
[14:31] Sonja Strom: agree
[14:31] Brian Livingston: Longest RA session ever
[14:31] ThePrincess Parisi: LRA to be beathan
[14:31] MT Lundquist: second
[14:31] Pip Torok: i will not speak unless the chair gives permission
[14:31] ThePrincess Parisi: filabuster
[14:31] Sonja Strom: aye
[14:31] You: no -- no coups in Pat's absence
[14:31] MT Lundquist: aye
[14:31] ThePrincess Parisi: LRA is the chair? .. can we vote
[14:31] You: but we can do some procedural tricks
[14:31] Gwyneth Llewelyn opens the SC's watchful eye
[14:31] You: so -- move to continue the meeting one week without adjournment
[14:32] MT Lundquist: second
[14:32] Cindy Ecksol thinks where is our chancellor when we need him????
[14:32] Brian Livingston is intimidated by Gwyn and that sword...
[14:32] You: votes?
[14:32] You: aye
[14:32] MT Lundquist: aye
[14:32] MT Lundquist: prin will vote in a minute
[14:32] MT Lundquist: shes just afk
[14:33] Sonja Strom: sorry, reading back through the chat
[14:33] Sonja Strom: aye
[14:33] ThePrincess Parisi: pp goes to the aye
[14:33] ThePrincess Parisi: lol
[14:34] Brian Livingston: Aye
[14:34] Sonja Strom: Pip, could you speak to the RA while it is in session?:
[14:34] Sonja Strom: I think we all want to hear what is on your mind.
[14:34] Pip Torok: ok now that yr my rep says so
[14:34] Sonja Strom:
[14:35] Brian Livingston: G'night all
[14:35] Sonja Strom: bye Brian

[Beathan]

Sonja Strom: That speaks to why I don't think we should take any actions between now and the meeting time next week.
[14:44] ThePrincess Parisi: i think nuCARE is a very cooperative faction
[14:44] Sonja Strom: No actions, no problem.
[14:44] ThePrincess Parisi: and i dont think we are really the opposition to anyone
[14:44] ThePrincess Parisi: we want the best for CDS
[14:44] Sonja Strom: Just a continuation of today's schedule.
[14:44] Symo Kurka is Online
[14:44] ThePrincess Parisi: yeah .. so about beathans bill.. can we talk about that
[14:44] ThePrincess Parisi: and can we talk about the rest of the sim stuff
[14:44] You: hmmm
[14:44] ThePrincess Parisi: and then i had an item
[14:44] Cindy Ecksol: May I speak here on a point oforder?
[14:44] ThePrincess Parisi: we cant vote?
[14:44] You: I don't want to take further votes for one week
[14:44] ThePrincess Parisi: sure cindy
[14:44] Sonja Strom: I think we should just talk more next week.
[14:44] ThePrincess Parisi: let cindy vote
[14:45] You: without PAt or the CSDF reps
[14:45] ThePrincess Parisi: i mean talk
[14:45] ThePrincess Parisi: they get seven day votes
[14:45] ThePrincess Parisi: whats wrong with that
[14:45] ThePrincess Parisi: if we have quorum they get seven day
[14:45] You: I think we should have an other business discussion -- but move that no further votes be taken unti 12:00 SLtime next Sundat
[14:45] Gwyneth Llewelyn was taking a look at the procedures and the legislation
[14:45] ThePrincess Parisi: good gwyneth
[14:45] Sonja Strom: Second Beathan
[14:45] Cindy Ecksol: "to continue a meeting" means that discussion stops, buut the agenda remains open. So once you vote to continue, you cannnot have formal discussions nor vote until you reconvene. Normally that would be next week, but you could decide otherwise if you chose.
[14:45] Gwyneth Llewelyn: In fact, there is nothing to forbid the RA to endlessly meet
[14:46] Sonja Strom: Thanks Cindy!!
[14:46] Cindy Ecksol: it's a procedure used when time runs out but the agenda has not been completed
[14:46] Cindy Ecksol: this would seem to qualify.
[14:46] ThePrincess Parisi: wow my dream come true.. RA forever
[14:46] You: agree - Cindt - -that is my undrestanding and it ws my intent
[14:46] Sonja Strom: me too
[14:46] Symo Kurka is Offline
[14:46] ThePrincess Parisi: so ppl can come talk to us all week and be in session , the citizens can be heard?
[14:46] ThePrincess Parisi: thats a good thing
[14:46] Cindy Ecksol: the SC will probably want to look at this because I do not recall that there is anything in the RA procedures to address it, but it's probably pretty safre
[14:46] Cindy Ecksol: "safe
[14:47] Sonja Strom: we can talk, sure, but not vote.
[14:47] You: TP -- all discussion are off the record -- but the agenda stays open
[14:47] You: and no votes can be taken
[14:47] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Technically, no new points can be added on the agenda
[14:47] Cindy Ecksol: yes, and it should be expected that Pat will pick up the current agenda where it left off rather than start on a new one at the next meeting
[14:47] Sonja Strom: Thanks Gwyneth, good point.
[14:47] You: yes -- no new points can be added to agenda
[14:47] ThePrincess Parisi: we have two items on the agenda that didnt get discussed
[14:47] ThePrincess Parisi: at all
[14:47] You: three actually
[14:47] ThePrincess Parisi: oh
[14:48] MT Lundquist: ok
[14:48] Gwyneth Llewelyn: But the ones on the agenda... well... there is nothing to forbid them to be discussed.
[14:48] You: process, volunteers, greener sims
[14:48] Cindy Ecksol: exactly! that's where things should pick up next week, assuming that the SC agrees that this was all "legal"
[14:48] Sonja Strom: yes, and that is ok, so long as they come up next week.
[14:48] Foxfyre Ihnen is Online
[14:48] Sonja Strom: we did a fair amount today, I think.
[14:49] ThePrincess Parisi: our chancellor is on his way
[14:49] Gwyneth Llewelyn: The SC *cannot* interefere on any of the RA's internal procedures!
[14:49] You: LO -- that's true Gwyn
[14:49] any1 Gynoid is Online
[14:49] You: hmmm
[14:49] You: so -- what a can of worms -- we'll see how this works out
[14:49] Sonja Strom: well, we can be responsible for our own decision.
[14:49] Sonja Strom: I think we made the right choice.
[14:49] ThePrincess Parisi: me too
[14:49] Sonja Strom: What better to do?
[14:50] MT Lundquist: i agree
[14:50] Cindy Ecksol: the only other choice would have been to adjourn
[14:50] Sonja Strom: Right.
[14:50] Sonja Strom: And who would have had the right to send that to a vote?
[14:50] ThePrincess Parisi: well .......
[14:51] Cindy Ecksol: this was probably more appropriate considering that Pat left when there were still items under discussion -- and I think maybe a motion on the table?