See http://forums.slcds.info/viewtopic.php? ... 567#p11567 for a non-normative (unofficial) index of the action items and main points from this meeting.
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Transcript of 5 July 2008 Representative Assembly Meeting
conducted at the Colonia Nova Praetorium
Recorded by Jamie Palisades (= "You", below)
Topic separators "----" inserted to separate agenda items
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[2008/07/05 9:01] Teleport completed from http://slurl.com/secondlife/Caledon%20R ... 111/132/22
[2008/07/05 9:02] MT Lundquist: hi jamie
[2008/07/05 9:02] You: Good morning Toga King
[2008/07/05 9:02] MT Lundquist: lol yes
[2008/07/05 9:02] MT Lundquist: hang on
[2008/07/05 9:02] You: I;m not really expecting a quorum by the way :) but Prin did ask me to try
[2008/07/05 9:03] MT Lundquist: yes she said to me
[2008/07/05 9:03] You: hah - don't strain anything inviting more people
[2008/07/05 9:03] You: I'll be real happy for 10 mins then logoff
[2008/07/05 9:03] You: also - most of the rest are not online
[2008/07/05 9:03] MT Lundquist: do you want prin to login
[2008/07/05 9:03] You: let's see
[2008/07/05 9:03] MT Lundquist: i'm on the phone to her
[2008/07/05 9:03] You: off = BV, Sonja, Gwyn ...
[2008/07/05 9:04] You: no need I think - but tell her thanks
[2008/07/05 9:04] You: we got nothign that HAS to move this week anyway
[2008/07/05 9:04] MT Lundquist: ok
[2008/07/05 9:04] You: Roc's offline too
[2008/07/05 9:04] MT Lundquist: gwyn
[2008/07/05 9:04] MT Lundquist: ?
[2008/07/05 9:04] You: ah JUST arrived
[2008/07/05 9:04] MT Lundquist: on radar
[2008/07/05 9:04] You: but let's see :)
[2008/07/05 9:04] MT Lundquist: hi gwyn
[2008/07/05 9:04] Gwyneth Llewelyn: hi, sorry!!
[2008/07/05 9:04] You: Hi social democrat
[2008/07/05 9:04] Gwyneth Llewelyn: lol Jamie
[2008/07/05 9:04] You: n p at all
[2008/07/05 9:04] You: in fact we're just discussing calling it a holiday
[2008/07/05 9:05] MT Lundquist: prins logging in
[2008/07/05 9:05] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well, we're just 5 minutes after the hour :D
[2008/07/05 9:05] You: sonja, FR and BV are offline
[2008/07/05 9:05] Gwyneth Llewelyn: For now... :)
[2008/07/05 9:05] You: but yes we can do with four if there's business to conduct, smile
[2008/07/05 9:05] Gwyneth Llewelyn: You've got an agenda posted, so.... :)
[2008/07/05 9:05] You: hmnoutfit for you flower girl
[2008/07/05 9:06] You: new one
[2008/07/05 9:06] Gwyneth Llewelyn: oh... no, that's an old one ;)
[2008/07/05 9:06] You: oh by the way speaking of your fashion victim rep, did you see that Soleil scooped all your oldies but goodies at the auction?
[2008/07/05 9:06] Gwyneth Llewelyn: two and a half years old... i think the designer already left SL :D
[2008/07/05 9:06] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Oh!... No, I didn't notice that :-D
[2008/07/05 9:07] You: well I am always grateful on artistic principles to see any attempt at asymmetry in clothes
[2008/07/05 9:07] MT Lundquist: oh i do asymetry in togas
[2008/07/05 9:07] MT Lundquist: lol
[2008/07/05 9:07] MT Lundquist: sometimes intentionally
[2008/07/05 9:07] You: strike a blow for variety!
[2008/07/05 9:07] Jamie Palisades grins
[2008/07/05 9:08] Gwyneth Llewelyn: haha well
[2008/07/05 9:08] MT Lundquist: strange the more skin pixels uncovered the better they sell
[2008/07/05 9:08] Gwyneth Llewelyn: My fashion newsletter told me that this summer, assymetry is "in" again,
[2008/07/05 9:08] You: hm really? Maybe that's just a toga thing though
[2008/07/05 9:08] Gwyneth Llewelyn: so I looked through my old outfits... :)
[2008/07/05 9:08] Gwyneth Llewelyn: hehe MT -- just like iRL!
[2008/07/05 9:08] You: ah well, i do not think I subscribe to those, grin
[2008/07/05 9:09] Gwyneth Llewelyn: The less fabric, the more expensive the outfit!!
[2008/07/05 9:09] Gwyneth Llewelyn never understood the logic of that one
[2008/07/05 9:10] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Then again, why should it have any logic??
[2008/07/05 9:10] Gwyneth Llewelyn *shrugs*
[2008/07/05 9:10] MT Lundquist: yes i guess thats the way
[2008/07/05 9:11] Jamie Palisades smiles placidly
[2008/07/05 9:11] Gwyneth Llewelyn smiles as well and waits...
[2008/07/05 9:11] You: Nice of you both to come, but I think at 15 after the hour, I may go start my holiday BBQ preparations
[2008/07/05 9:11] You: by the way
[2008/07/05 9:12] Gwyneth Llewelyn: It's fine for me, but...
[2008/07/05 9:12] You: Arria asked me to set up a RA election debate again, as she's running and I'm not
[2008/07/05 9:12] Gwyneth Llewelyn: ... wasn't the holiday *yesterday*? :D
[2008/07/05 9:12] You: so I will get a message around to the factions & candidates
[2008/07/05 9:12] You: :)
[2008/07/05 9:12] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Yes, I've heard she got permissions from Alex to do the debate and all
[2008/07/05 9:12] MT Lundquist: hi bromo
[2008/07/05 9:12] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ahhh
[2008/07/05 9:12] MT Lundquist: hi lve
[2008/07/05 9:12] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Prin arrives at the same time as Bromo!
[2008/07/05 9:12] You: Hi Bromo
[2008/07/05 9:12] Bromo Ivory: Hi Guys
[2008/07/05 9:12] Gwyneth Llewelyn: hi both :)
[2008/07/05 9:13] Bromo Ivory: Hi Gwyn - I suppose this dispells the rumors we are alts
[2008/07/05 9:13] ThePrincess Parisi: is he my alt?
[2008/07/05 9:13] You: oh? Hi Prin
[2008/07/05 9:13] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Bromo: indeed :)
[2008/07/05 9:13] You: Yikes not in all white I hope
[2008/07/05 9:13] Gwyneth Llewelyn: haha I think not!...
[2008/07/05 9:13] MT Lundquist: whose alt am i then
[2008/07/05 9:13] You: Quick question you lot
[2008/07/05 9:13] Gwyneth Llewelyn: What do you have against white????
[2008/07/05 9:13] Bromo Ivory: LOL
[2008/07/05 9:13] ThePrincess Parisi: see how can you tpqt the same time
[2008/07/05 9:13] ThePrincess Parisi: the cape is the latest addition to the collection
[2008/07/05 9:13] You: :) MT you are special, you can be my alt too if you like
[2008/07/05 9:13] ThePrincess Parisi: ill sell you one
[2008/07/05 9:13] You: "I am legion .. i contain multitudes"
[2008/07/05 9:13] ThePrincess Parisi: where are all my alts
[2008/07/05 9:13] Bromo Ivory: No - everyone in this room is my alt
[2008/07/05 9:13] MT Lundquist: thanks jamie
[2008/07/05 9:13] MT Lundquist: oh yes i forgot i'm bromo
[2008/07/05 9:14] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I might be...
[2008/07/05 9:14] Bromo Ivory: And you better not forget it, Mister
[2008/07/05 9:14] You: that's a nice statement of the solipsist view, Bromo
[2008/07/05 9:14] ThePrincess Parisi: whewre the fuck is my throne
[2008/07/05 9:14] Bromo Ivory: Oh yes Gwyn, you are, too
[2008/07/05 9:14] Jamie Palisades grins and points to the chairs
[2008/07/05 9:14] Bromo Ivory: My alt would never say the f-word
[2008/07/05 9:14] ThePrincess Parisi: ok
[2008/07/05 9:14] Gwyneth Llewelyn: hehe
[2008/07/05 9:14] ThePrincess Parisi: i was just kidding
[2008/07/05 9:14] MT Lundquist: so maybe we are all prins
[2008/07/05 9:14] You: so kids
[2008/07/05 9:14] Gwyneth Llewelyn: There is a throne in NFS ;)
[2008/07/05 9:14] You: we got any actual business today?
[2008/07/05 9:15] DivineLolita Demonia: Heya
[2008/07/05 9:15] You: (I do not think I knew that, Gwyn) - where?
[2008/07/05 9:15] ThePrincess Parisi: i still dont have the damn money for the guided tour
[2008/07/05 9:15] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I'm fine until 11:30 :D
[2008/07/05 9:15] ThePrincess Parisi: and i want an audit
[2008/07/05 9:15] Gwyneth Llewelyn: jamie, in the Schloss!
[2008/07/05 9:15] ThePrincess Parisi: thats all i have
[2008/07/05 9:15] ThePrincess Parisi: so bromo
[2008/07/05 9:15] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Hello, Divine!
[2008/07/05 9:15] ThePrincess Parisi: bromo did you plan to take my seat today
[2008/07/05 9:15] MT Lundquist: hi devine
[2008/07/05 9:15] DivineLolita Demonia: are you all governing today? giggles
[2008/07/05 9:16] Bromo Ivory: Why would I?
[2008/07/05 9:16] Gwyneth Llewelyn: We're looking for a quorum ;)
[2008/07/05 9:16] ThePrincess Parisi: we have one
[2008/07/05 9:16] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I think we have one :)
[2008/07/05 9:16] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Yes :)
[2008/07/05 9:16] Bromo Ivory looks under seat for that little beast
[2008/07/05 9:16] MT Lundquist: although jamie seems quiet
[2008/07/05 9:16] DivineLolita Demonia: frowns.. a quorum? looks in her little hand bag.. Nope I dont have one sorry..
[2008/07/05 9:16] Gwyneth Llewelyn: He's.... meditating
[2008/07/05 9:16] Gwyneth Llewelyn: "ommm"
[2008/07/05 9:16] Bromo Ivory eeps.
[2008/07/05 9:17] MT Lundquist: narcalepsy
[2008/07/05 9:17] Gwyneth Llewelyn: hehe
[2008/07/05 9:17] Gwyneth Llewelyn: poor Jamie
[2008/07/05 9:17] ThePrincess Parisi: sorry im texturing
[2008/07/05 9:17] ThePrincess Parisi: narolepsy
[2008/07/05 9:17] Gwyneth Llewelyn: it's too early for him I guess...
[2008/07/05 9:17] ThePrincess Parisi: ok
[2008/07/05 9:17] ThePrincess Parisi: how do i look
[2008/07/05 9:17] MT Lundquist: regal
[2008/07/05 9:17] MT Lundquist: lol
[2008/07/05 9:17] ThePrincess Parisi: thank you
[2008/07/05 9:17] ThePrincess Parisi: the new cape is ok ?
[2008/07/05 9:17] DivineLolita Demonia: Slightly Irrevarant? giggles
[2008/07/05 9:18] ThePrincess Parisi: who is she?
[2008/07/05 9:18] ThePrincess Parisi points to devine
[2008/07/05 9:18] Gwyneth Llewelyn: like a princess in a fantasy movie :)
[2008/07/05 9:18] You: narco indeed :)
[2008/07/05 9:18] Gwyneth Llewelyn: ah, she was here before!
[2008/07/05 9:18] ThePrincess Parisi: when
[2008/07/05 9:18] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Mmmh a month or so ago?
[2008/07/05 9:18] ThePrincess Parisi: i dont remember her
[2008/07/05 9:18] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I don't remember exactly, Divine
[2008/07/05 9:18] You: I didn't want a meeting myself - too much going on today - but our New Concept for LRAs is to be a servant leader :) so I am trying to model a set of behaviors here
[2008/07/05 9:19] ThePrincess Parisi: what do you want us to do jamie
[2008/07/05 9:19] MT Lundquist: :)
[2008/07/05 9:19] You: Hello again Loli!
[2008/07/05 9:19] DivineLolita Demonia: oh 'im just here to watch if u dont mind ... if i'm intruding i can go...
[2008/07/05 9:19] Gwyneth Llewelyn: You're very welcome, Divine!
[2008/07/05 9:19] ThePrincess Parisi: symo is our decorator
[2008/07/05 9:19] ThePrincess Parisi: did we approve that
[2008/07/05 9:19] Bromo Ivory thinks Jamie introducing BDSM concepts to RA might be a little tough for some to adjust to
[2008/07/05 9:19] Gwyneth Llewelyn: lol Bromo
[2008/07/05 9:19] ThePrincess Parisi: jamies a perv
[2008/07/05 9:19] You: well here's the Q :)
[2008/07/05 9:19] You: Prin, MT, Gwyn, do any of you have business you wish to conduct today? (If you say yes let's convene quickly and do it. If not let's not.)
[2008/07/05 9:19] ThePrincess Parisi: i said i do
[2008/07/05 9:19] You: OK :)
[2008/07/05 9:19] Gwyneth Llewelyn: well, I'd say, let's follow the agenda
[2008/07/05 9:19] Gwyneth Llewelyn: and I second prin's points too
[2008/07/05 9:19] MT Lundquist: well i wore latex last week
[2008/07/05 9:19] Gwyneth Llewelyn: haha MT!
[2008/07/05 9:19] You: DLolita? No prob at all it's an open meeting
[2008/07/05 9:19] Bromo Ivory: But Gwyn - its hidden as usual
[2008/07/05 9:20] Gwyneth Llewelyn reminds herself to get some PVC next Saturday
[2008/07/05 9:20] ThePrincess Parisi: you got that right jamie
[2008/07/05 9:20] You: next saturday?
[2008/07/05 9:20] ThePrincess Parisi: what happens then?
[2008/07/05 9:20] You: what, are we having CDS latex week or something? siiiigh
[2008/07/05 9:20] ThePrincess Parisi: naked nucare
[2008/07/05 9:20] ThePrincess Parisi: i think thats their slogan
[2008/07/05 9:20] Gwyneth Llewelyn: LOL
[2008/07/05 9:20] MT Lundquist: bare nucare
[2008/07/05 9:20] Gwyneth Llewelyn: NuBare?
[2008/07/05 9:20] You: Quick run though the admin items then :)
[2008/07/05 9:20] ThePrincess Parisi: texture my box
[2008/07/05 9:21] You: let's come to order
[2008/07/05 9:21] ThePrincess Parisi: that sounds dirty
[2008/07/05 9:21] ThePrincess Parisi: wait
[2008/07/05 9:21] ThePrincess Parisi: dont make me be in order
[2008/07/05 9:21] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Aye aye cap'n Palisades!
[2008/07/05 9:21] You: Prin can make salacious offers later :)
[2008/07/05 9:21] ThePrincess Parisi: i wanna show you
[2008/07/05 9:21] Gwyneth Llewelyn: omg Prin
[2008/07/05 9:21] Gwyneth Llewelyn: LOL
[2008/07/05 9:21] You: and MT can texture his box at his leisure
[2008/07/05 9:21] MT Lundquist: notice its me who gets to be naked
[2008/07/05 9:21] MT Lundquist: lol
[2008/07/05 9:21] ThePrincess Parisi: they are reuining our faction
[2008/07/05 9:21] Gwyneth Llewelyn: haha MT yes
[2008/07/05 9:21] You: so this is what? a new microtoga?
[2008/07/05 9:21] Gwyneth Llewelyn: nice tats ;)
[2008/07/05 9:21] ThePrincess Parisi: lol
[2008/07/05 9:21] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Uh
[2008/07/05 9:22] MT Lundquist: yes very small
[2008/07/05 9:22] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Microtoga, right...
[2008/07/05 9:22] ThePrincess Parisi: then they have this
[2008/07/05 9:22] You: if it's infinitely small, MT, can you charge an infinite price??
[2008/07/05 9:22] Gwyneth Llewelyn: rofl
[2008/07/05 9:22] MT Lundquist: true
[2008/07/05 9:22] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Oh that one is nice too, who took the picture?
[2008/07/05 9:22] ThePrincess Parisi: its pathetic how they have made a mockery of all my work
[2008/07/05 9:22] MT Lundquist: of course i could attend ra dressed like that
[2008/07/05 9:22] Gwyneth Llewelyn: yay :)
[2008/07/05 9:22] Gwyneth Llewelyn has no objection :)
[2008/07/05 9:23] Gwyneth Llewelyn: lol
[2008/07/05 9:23] You: weqll it's good to know your platform :)
[2008/07/05 9:23] Gwyneth Llewelyn: What rumours are true? ;)
[2008/07/05 9:23] You: can we lose it for now please?
[2008/07/05 9:23] ThePrincess Parisi: look at her butt
[2008/07/05 9:23] ThePrincess Parisi: ok ok
[2008/07/05 9:23] Gwyneth Llewelyn: hehe I did
[2008/07/05 9:23] ThePrincess Parisi: rose thinks shes my alt
[2008/07/05 9:23] You: OK :)
[2008/07/05 9:23] ThePrincess Parisi: ok
[2008/07/05 9:23] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I'm sure she thinks that ;)
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[2008/07/05 9:23] You: Please assent to recording - I Assent
[2008/07/05 9:23] MT Lundquist: i assent
[2008/07/05 9:24] You: That's 1a :)
[2008/07/05 9:24] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I assent as well...
[2008/07/05 9:24] ThePrincess Parisi: i assend
[2008/07/05 9:24] Bromo Ivory: I assent
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[2008/07/05 9:24] You: 1b - any changes to agenda? it is short, an at :
[2008/07/05 9:24] You: http://forums.slcds.info/viewtopic.php? ... 530#p11530
[2008/07/05 9:24] MT Lundquist: do you have the link to the agenda please
[2008/07/05 9:24] You: while you are looking
[2008/07/05 9:24] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Prin has suggested a few points, and I've seconded those
[2008/07/05 9:24] You: 1c - I see no one else who plans to speak today other than RA members?
[2008/07/05 9:25] ThePrincess Parisi: thank you gyweneth llewellen
[2008/07/05 9:25] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ah, Moon apologises, but she can't come in-world today to give any reports from the Guild; I don't know if there are any other Guild members available
[2008/07/05 9:25] You: hm - Prin could you restate those? what additions to agenda?
[2008/07/05 9:25] You: (No need Gwyn)
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[2008/07/05 9:25] You: and while we are waiting, also, 1d:
[2008/07/05 9:25] Gwyneth Llewelyn: ThePrincess Parisi: i still donet have the damn money for the guided tour | and I want an audit
[2008/07/05 9:25] ThePrincess Parisi: ok
[2008/07/05 9:25] You: Please send me any corrections to the poted transcripts.
[2008/07/05 9:25] ThePrincess Parisi: lol
[2008/07/05 9:26] You: ah the reimb :) that's on the agenda as 1f
[2008/07/05 9:26] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Basically, verifying why the Executive is not paying for events that have been budgeted and approved for!
[2008/07/05 9:26] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ah
[2008/07/05 9:26] You: and let's add audit after ite 2 hmn?
[2008/07/05 9:26] Gwyneth Llewelyn: sorry  you're so right
[2008/07/05 9:26] Gwyneth Llewelyn: ok.
[2008/07/05 9:26] ThePrincess Parisi: what else do we have left hanging
[2008/07/05 9:26] You: those two items only, then, Prin? Both added :)
[2008/07/05 9:26] You: added
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[2008/07/05 9:27] You: 1e
[2008/07/05 9:27] You: we plan to meet on the 12th, 19th and 26th June
[2008/07/05 9:27] Gwyneth Llewelyn: *July
[2008/07/05 9:27] You: then new RA is seated
[2008/07/05 9:27] ThePrincess Parisi: what else is on the agenda.. i am concerned the election rules committee didnt ever bring anything
[2008/07/05 9:27] Gwyneth Llewelyn: whoops
[2008/07/05 9:27] You: ha ha quit right thanks Gwyn, 12-19-26 July
[2008/07/05 9:27] Gwyneth Llewelyn smiles :)
[2008/07/05 9:27] You: that's on agenda under item 3 Prin
[2008/07/05 9:28] ThePrincess Parisi: ok
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[2008/07/05 9:28] You: so 1f :)
[2008/07/05 9:28] You: consent
[2008/07/05 9:28] You: and I have a proposed item
[2008/07/05 9:28] Gwyneth Llewelyn wonders why the wall behind Bromo and MT is missing
[2008/07/05 9:28] You: Last week we asked our chancellor to act on the outstanding reimb requests to Prin
[2008/07/05 9:28] ThePrincess Parisi: he said he would
[2008/07/05 9:28] Gwyneth Llewelyn *nods* @ Jamie
[2008/07/05 9:28] MT Lundquist: its not
[2008/07/05 9:28] Bromo Ivory thinks its a plot by Michel
[2008/07/05 9:28] Gwyneth Llewelyn: (ah, good to know, MT)
[2008/07/05 9:28] You: and give us an answer within a week
[2008/07/05 9:29] Gwyneth Llewelyn: A week is now over.
[2008/07/05 9:29] ThePrincess Parisi: yes
[2008/07/05 9:29] You: (And Michel's my alt, just to be clear about that)
[2008/07/05 9:29] ThePrincess Parisi: i have no clue but to make me look like a idiot
[2008/07/05 9:29] You: (however)
[2008/07/05 9:29] ThePrincess Parisi: michels alt is my otheroalt
[2008/07/05 9:29] You: (I Will NOT tattoo his name on my butt. Sorry.)
[2008/07/05 9:29] You: so
[2008/07/05 9:29] Gwyneth Llewelyn *chuckles*
[2008/07/05 9:30] You: would any RA member like to take further action regarding the lack of answer? I know of no response.
[2008/07/05 9:30] ThePrincess Parisi: what do we do ?
[2008/07/05 9:30] Gwyneth Llewelyn: the only option we have is to kick out the Chancellor really...
[2008/07/05 9:30] ThePrincess Parisi: shall we call him and hang him by his toes
[2008/07/05 9:30] You: Per last week our options are - ask Sudane, Ask Alex again, impeach
[2008/07/05 9:30] DivineLolita Demonia: is he an alt too? gigggles
[2008/07/05 9:30] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I hope not :D
[2008/07/05 9:31] ThePrincess Parisi: well.......... i think we should threaten empeachment.. one last chance and we go for it
[2008/07/05 9:31] ThePrincess Parisi: stall the election
[2008/07/05 9:31] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well... this is serious actually
[2008/07/05 9:31] Gwyneth Llewelyn: The Chancellor cannot ignore us...
[2008/07/05 9:31] Gwyneth Llewelyn: it's a terrible precedent
[2008/07/05 9:31] ThePrincess Parisi: it is, and its not about me.. but it is a pattern of mismanagement of funds in s CDS as whole
[2008/07/05 9:31] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well, one thing at the time.One was a clear request
[2008/07/05 9:31] Gwyneth Llewelyn: which was ignored
[2008/07/05 9:32] ThePrincess Parisi: it should include an audit though....
[2008/07/05 9:32] ThePrincess Parisi: and we need an explanation .. for all we know he asked sudane for money and he said no
[2008/07/05 9:32] Gwyneth Llewelyn: As much as I love Alex personally, I'd give him a few days to fully explain why he didn't comply with our request, and then threaten removal from office (and yes, this is a motion!)
[2008/07/05 9:32] ThePrincess Parisi: second
[2008/07/05 9:32] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Who said no, Sudane?
[2008/07/05 9:32] ThePrincess Parisi: let him explain..
[2008/07/05 9:33] ThePrincess Parisi: well, gwyeneth, maybe its sudane not alexicon quite possibly
[2008/07/05 9:33] ThePrincess Parisi: who is the one stalling
[2008/07/05 9:33] ThePrincess Parisi: i have reason to believe sudane has issues with money
[2008/07/05 9:33] ThePrincess Parisi: so lets have alexicon explain
[2008/07/05 9:33] Bromo Ivory glares at Prin
[2008/07/05 9:33] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ok. So we have to figure that out, and I'd say that the first step is to ask the Chancellor, since he heads the Executive
[2008/07/05 9:33] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Yes.
[2008/07/05 9:34] Gwyneth Llewelyn: If he doesn't answer, we threaten with removal from office...
[2008/07/05 9:34] ThePrincess Parisi: so where is he?
[2008/07/05 9:34] Gwyneth Llewelyn: If he answers but we don't like the answer :) ... then I'd say we'll discuss it on the next RA on the 12th
[2008/07/05 9:34] ThePrincess Parisi: gywneth you told me that sudane takes a profit.. out of CDS.. how does that happen.. and where is it recorded?
[2008/07/05 9:35] You: hmmm
[2008/07/05 9:35] Bromo Ivory looks at Prin asking her to be quiet (in IM)
[2008/07/05 9:35] You: might not wan tto get into that just yet - let's deal with the chancelor issue first, hm?
[2008/07/05 9:35] You: Taking Gwyn's lead ...
[2008/07/05 9:35] MT Lundquist: its important to understand where the money goes though
[2008/07/05 9:36] You: anyone wish to move to remind the Chancellor of his promise to resolve the request within a week, and notify him that we will consider his removal at our next meeting if there is no reply?
[2008/07/05 9:36] ThePrincess Parisi: yes
[2008/07/05 9:36] You: I agree it's a strong move - but well :) if that's the ony option we have, you can do that
[2008/07/05 9:37] You: and I agre the rest is important too MT, just want to get this bit resolved first
[2008/07/05 9:37] Bromo Ivory: Given the term is over shortly ... and Alex won't be Chancellor ....
[2008/07/05 9:37] ThePrincess Parisi: of course if he was from another faction it would be political
[2008/07/05 9:37] You: (Note if I can take that as Prin's motion it does NOT require him to PAY just to ANSWER)
[2008/07/05 9:37] ThePrincess Parisi: so if sudane takes a profit from CDS like gwyen said, then all of CDS is a total joke and not what we areled to believe right?
[2008/07/05 9:37] You: (and if that was a motion I need a second)
[2008/07/05 9:38] ThePrincess Parisi: agreed.. just to
[2008/07/05 9:39] You: hm I guess we could let it die for lack of a second? MT? Gwyn?
[2008/07/05 9:39] You: She's asleep :)
[2008/07/05 9:39] ThePrincess Parisi: who?
[2008/07/05 9:39] You: this is your chance to sit in Gwyn's lap Prin
[2008/07/05 9:39] ThePrincess Parisi: id rather puke
[2008/07/05 9:39] Bromo Ivory starts selling tickets
[2008/07/05 9:39] You: seee how often THAT occurs
[2008/07/05 9:40] MT Lundquist: lol
[2008/07/05 9:40] ThePrincess Parisi: dont you know she kinda makes me ill
[2008/07/05 9:40] You: tsk :) let's be polite in meetings, within reason
[2008/07/05 9:40] ThePrincess Parisi: polite?.. regurgitate is that better
[2008/07/05 9:40] MT Lundquist: alex is on
[2008/07/05 9:40] You: no second then?
[2008/07/05 9:40] ThePrincess Parisi: second
[2008/07/05 9:40] ThePrincess Parisi: ill second it
[2008/07/05 9:41] You: :) uou made the motion
[2008/07/05 9:41] ThePrincess Parisi: well..
[2008/07/05 9:41] MT Lundquist: second
[2008/07/05 9:41] You: there we go
[2008/07/05 9:41] ThePrincess Parisi: ok i thought i had two votes
[2008/07/05 9:41] You: any disussion?
[2008/07/05 9:41] You: :)
[2008/07/05 9:41] Gwyneth Llewelyn apologises and is back again
[2008/07/05 9:41] ThePrincess Parisi: dont read back , its fine.
[2008/07/05 9:41] MT Lundquist: we quickly jump out of gwyns lap
[2008/07/05 9:41] You: motion in chat above, bascially a reminder and a hint of possible removal if there's no answer
[2008/07/05 9:41] You: *reminder
[2008/07/05 9:41] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Sure
[2008/07/05 9:41] You: any more discussion?
[2008/07/05 9:42] You: ready to vote? Seems so
[2008/07/05 9:42] ThePrincess Parisi: no
[2008/07/05 9:42] ThePrincess Parisi: alexicon turned up
[2008/07/05 9:42] You: All in favor of the motion plase say aye.
[2008/07/05 9:42] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Aye
[2008/07/05 9:42] You: oh - we shoud stop?
[2008/07/05 9:42] ThePrincess Parisi: nay
[2008/07/05 9:42] ThePrincess Parisi: well hes not answering IMs
[2008/07/05 9:42] You: it's your motion :)
[2008/07/05 9:42] ThePrincess Parisi: lol
[2008/07/05 9:42] Gwyneth Llewelyn sees Alex
[2008/07/05 9:42] MT Lundquist: nay
[2008/07/05 9:42] You: I suggest we withdraw the vote and start over
[2008/07/05 9:42] ThePrincess Parisi: hes here!
[2008/07/05 9:43] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I agree, well, if Alex is here, he can answer directly :D
[2008/07/05 9:43] MT Lundquist: hi alex
[2008/07/05 9:43] You: Ahh Alex
[2008/07/05 9:43] Alexicon Kurka: hi all
[2008/07/05 9:43] DivineLolita Demonia: yey! another alt! giggles
[2008/07/05 9:43] Gwyneth Llewelyn: for the sake of "defending my honour", Prin claims that I've said that: "ThePrincess Parisi: so if sudane takes a profit from CDS like gwyen said, then all of CDS is a total joke and not what we areled to believe right"  I actually said the total opposite, Sudane is NOT taking a 'profit' from the CDS :P
[2008/07/05 9:43] You: Thanks for dropping in, we were just considering asking you to answer our question last week or trying to remove you next week - which I suppose would be a favor to you ...
[2008/07/05 9:43] You: :)
[2008/07/05 9:43] ThePrincess Parisi: oh excuse me
[2008/07/05 9:44] You: Alexi can you let us know if you approved or denied Prin's requests for reimbursement from last week?
[2008/07/05 9:44] Gwyneth Llewelyn: hehe Jamie, well put :)
[2008/07/05 9:44] MT Lundquist: m
[2008/07/05 9:44] MT Lundquist is seeing double
[2008/07/05 9:44] MT Lundquist: there are many prins
[2008/07/05 9:44] ThePrincess Parisi: you wish
[2008/07/05 9:44] ThePrincess Parisi: no one but you does
[2008/07/05 9:44] Bromo Ivory: Oh no not another one
[2008/07/05 9:45] ThePrincess Parisi: i didnt know you can do that
[2008/07/05 9:45] ThePrincess Parisi: put your cursor on the chair and left click
[2008/07/05 9:45] Gwyneth Llewelyn *nods* it works if the chair is programmed that way
[2008/07/05 9:45] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well, Alex left?
[2008/07/05 9:45] ThePrincess Parisi: lol
[2008/07/05 9:45] ThePrincess Parisi: why did he leave
[2008/07/05 9:45] Gwyneth Llewelyn *shrugs*
[2008/07/05 9:46] Free Radar HUD v1.1 by Crystal Gadgets
[2008/07/05 9:46] ThePrincess Parisi: omg .. ok you said no one BUT sudane would do that for no profit thts right
[2008/07/05 9:46] ThePrincess Parisi: i stand corrected
[2008/07/05 9:46] Gwyneth Llewelyn: ah, I see his hair again!
[2008/07/05 9:46] Alexicon Kurka: sorry I crashed
[2008/07/05 9:46] ThePrincess Parisi: welcome back
[2008/07/05 9:46] Gwyneth Llewelyn: wb :)
[2008/07/05 9:46] MT Lundquist: wb
[2008/07/05 9:46] Alexicon Kurka: :)
[2008/07/05 9:46] Gwyneth Llewelyn: did you get the RA's question. Alex? :)
[2008/07/05 9:47] Alexicon Kurka: so you had a lot of questions for me
[2008/07/05 9:47] MT Lundquist: we were just finding the most comfy chair
[2008/07/05 9:47] Alexicon Kurka: you want me to give up the chaNCELORSHIP A FEW WEEKS EARLIER?
[2008/07/05 9:47] Gwyneth Llewelyn: nooooo
[2008/07/05 9:47] ThePrincess Parisi: noooooooooooo
[2008/07/05 9:47] Gwyneth Llewelyn: lol
[2008/07/05 9:47] ThePrincess Parisi: just answer the question
[2008/07/05 9:48] Alexicon Kurka: what was the question?
[2008/07/05 9:48] Alexicon Kurka: about reimbushment for thePrincess?
[2008/07/05 9:48] Gwyneth Llewelyn: [9:44] Jamie Palisades: Alexi can you let us know if you approved or denied Prin's requests for reimbursement from last week?
[2008/07/05 9:48] ThePrincess Parisi holds out her right hand plalm up and points to the empty hand
[2008/07/05 9:48] Alexicon Kurka: I did talk with Sudane this week about it. She would discuss with Gwyn about the transfer problems.
[2008/07/05 9:49] ThePrincess Parisi: GWYEN?
[2008/07/05 9:49] Alexicon Kurka: I asked thePrincess to still look for a tranferable gadget
[2008/07/05 9:49] ThePrincess Parisi: she has to talk with gwyen?
[2008/07/05 9:49] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Transfer problems??
[2008/07/05 9:49] Gwyneth Llewelyn *scratches head*
[2008/07/05 9:49] ThePrincess Parisi: you did NOT
[2008/07/05 9:49] ThePrincess Parisi: when did you ask me that?
[2008/07/05 9:49] Alexicon Kurka: I IMed you
[2008/07/05 9:49] Gwyneth Llewelyn: 1) What transfer problems? and 2) What do *I* have to do with it? :)
[2008/07/05 9:49] ThePrincess Parisi: my IMs are capped every day cos of my business
[2008/07/05 9:49] You: ?
[2008/07/05 9:49] Alexicon Kurka: the tour version thePrincess wants to buy is no transfer
[2008/07/05 9:50] ThePrincess Parisi: my porofile said that
[2008/07/05 9:50] Gwyneth Llewelyn: ah
[2008/07/05 9:50] ThePrincess Parisi: profile.. and i have no clue if its transfer or not
[2008/07/05 9:50] Gwyneth Llewelyn: so? I'm not a Linden, I cannot change permissions on other people's objects :))
[2008/07/05 9:50] You: Alexi I thought she did buy it already - no Prin?
[2008/07/05 9:50] ThePrincess Parisi: and I DONT WANNA BUY IT
[2008/07/05 9:50] ThePrincess Parisi: this is not about me!
[2008/07/05 9:50] ThePrincess Parisi: it was approved by the rA as a budget idtem
[2008/07/05 9:50] You: (ha ha Gwyn can they do that?)
[2008/07/05 9:50] Gwyneth Llewelyn: exactly.
[2008/07/05 9:50] Alexicon Kurka: also the other idea of having Sudane buy it would not work after all
[2008/07/05 9:50] Gwyneth Llewelyn: (yes, Jamie)
[2008/07/05 9:50] You: prin dear - do you have one in your inventory that CDS can use, or not?
[2008/07/05 9:51] You: ithat data will resolve Alexi's issue i think
[2008/07/05 9:51] ThePrincess Parisi: NOOOOO i refuse to buy one with MY money cos CDS NEVER reimburses
[2008/07/05 9:51] ThePrincess Parisi: this is the whole issue of the thing!!!!!
[2008/07/05 9:51] You: OK :)
[2008/07/05 9:51] You: then there is no need to reimburse you yet, right?
[2008/07/05 9:51] ThePrincess Parisi: doesnt anyone get it...............
[2008/07/05 9:51] You: you just want them to get on with it and buy the vehicle, I take it?
[2008/07/05 9:51] ThePrincess Parisi: WE APPROVED A ITEM TO BUY
[2008/07/05 9:51] ThePrincess Parisi: I NEED THE MONEY TO BUY IT WITH
[2008/07/05 9:51] You: OK :)
[2008/07/05 9:51] ThePrincess Parisi: OR SOMEONE
[2008/07/05 9:52] ThePrincess Parisi: WTF IS THE PROBLEM
[2008/07/05 9:52] Alexicon Kurka: tP the money is not the issue, that has been approved
[2008/07/05 9:52] Alexicon Kurka: the ownership is
[2008/07/05 9:52] ThePrincess Parisi: WHY DO WE APPROVE A BUDGET ITEM
[2008/07/05 9:52] DivineLolita Demonia: blushes
[2008/07/05 9:52] ThePrincess Parisi: WHO OWNS ANYTHIN G IN CDS.. HOW DO WE HAVE ANYTHING
[2008/07/05 9:52] You: Alexi has said -- correct me if I am wrong -- that he wants Sudane or the Guild or some neutral to own it, right Alexi?
[2008/07/05 9:52] Alexicon Kurka: yes
[2008/07/05 9:52] Gwyneth Llewelyn *scratches head*
[2008/07/05 9:52] Alexicon Kurka: thank you Jamie
[2008/07/05 9:52] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I'm sorry, but I don't understand.
[2008/07/05 9:52] ThePrincess Parisi: I DONT GIVE A CRAP WHO OWNS THE DARN THING.. WHY HASNT IT BEEN BOUGHT IN SIX MONTHS
[2008/07/05 9:52] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Exactly, prin
[2008/07/05 9:52] Gwyneth Llewelyn: That's the question
[2008/07/05 9:53] Gwyneth Llewelyn: The rest are silly details!
[2008/07/05 9:53] ThePrincess Parisi: DO YOU THINK I WANT 4K LINDENS
[2008/07/05 9:53] ThePrincess Parisi: SO I CAN RETIRE OR SOMETHING
[2008/07/05 9:53] ThePrincess Parisi: FFFFFFS
[2008/07/05 9:53] Jamie Palisades grins -- Alexi, if Prin gets you the data on the precise item, can you get someone within the executive to buy it this next week, say within 7 days after she gives you the item information?
[2008/07/05 9:53] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I have to agree with Prin wholeheartedly
[2008/07/05 9:53] ThePrincess Parisi: its why is the process................so messed up
[2008/07/05 9:53] Gwyneth Llewelyn: That's insane even, Jamie
[2008/07/05 9:53] Alexicon Kurka: yes I can Jamie
[2008/07/05 9:53] You: (Prin, I'd save more than L$4000 to retire, personally)
[2008/07/05 9:53] Gwyneth Llewelyn: 7 days to buy an *item*!?
[2008/07/05 9:53] You: OK :) propose a shorter time, Gwyn
[2008/07/05 9:54] Alexicon Kurka: np Gwyn
[2008/07/05 9:54] MT Lundquist: hi soro
[2008/07/05 9:54] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I'm sorry, I don't get that
[2008/07/05 9:54] ThePrincess Parisi: ok i motion that gwyn owns the guided tour
[2008/07/05 9:54] Gwyneth Llewelyn: really
[2008/07/05 9:54] You: I was told by a flower wearing friend once that we all are volunteers ultimately and such have to be reasonable :)
[2008/07/05 9:54] ThePrincess Parisi: so does sudane run this place or what?
[2008/07/05 9:54] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Indeed...
[2008/07/05 9:54] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well
[2008/07/05 9:54] ThePrincess Parisi: so lets let sudane decided who owns the guided tour
[2008/07/05 9:54] Gwyneth Llewelyn: At least she's stalling it :D
[2008/07/05 9:54] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ah, ok
[2008/07/05 9:54] ThePrincess Parisi: oHHH NO its not sudanes stim?
[2008/07/05 9:55] You: OK :) Princess moved that the tour be owned by Gwyn. Any second or reactions to that?
[2008/07/05 9:55] ThePrincess Parisi: NOOO i take it back
[2008/07/05 9:55] Alexicon Kurka: life would be much simpler if you buy a tranferrable version thePrincess
[2008/07/05 9:55] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I think that's plain stupid!
[2008/07/05 9:55] You: oopsie :) OK
[2008/07/05 9:55] ThePrincess Parisi: I MOVE THAT SUDANE BE AUDITED
[2008/07/05 9:55] MT Lundquist: second
[2008/07/05 9:55] ThePrincess Parisi: well
[2008/07/05 9:55] ThePrincess Parisi: chickens
[2008/07/05 9:55] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well, according to my bad memory,
[2008/07/05 9:55] ThePrincess Parisi: ten foot pole again
[2008/07/05 9:55] You: I think we're all talking about a general topic here, so even though that's a bit off agenda, I think it's relevant
[2008/07/05 9:55] Gwyneth Llewelyn: the Treasurer has to give a monthly account on the finances
[2008/07/05 9:55] ThePrincess Parisi: just like the forum we are so scared of sudane we are joke
[2008/07/05 9:55] Gwyneth Llewelyn: So, yes, I haven't seen that in a while.
[2008/07/05 9:56] You: we do have a motion and second. I have some discussion. Maybe others do too? Gwyn?
[2008/07/05 9:56] ThePrincess Parisi: well we dont have a proper audit ever
[2008/07/05 9:56] Gwyneth Llewelyn: And I'd certainly second a motion to see that
[2008/07/05 9:56] ThePrincess Parisi: i wanna see a bank statement
[2008/07/05 9:56] Gwyneth Llewelyn: oooh
[2008/07/05 9:56] ThePrincess Parisi: mark out the RL Name
[2008/07/05 9:56] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Oh!
[2008/07/05 9:56] ThePrincess Parisi: yah@
[2008/07/05 9:56] Gwyneth Llewelyn: No, that's against the LL ToS :)
[2008/07/05 9:56] ThePrincess Parisi: where is the alleged 5k
[2008/07/05 9:56] You: hm I doubt there is one :) I suspect there only is an SL account
[2008/07/05 9:56] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I'm afraid I cannot agree with that :)
[2008/07/05 9:56] ThePrincess Parisi: what!
[2008/07/05 9:56] MT Lundquist: whys it against tos
[2008/07/05 9:56] ThePrincess Parisi: loll.. cds is a total complete joke!
[2008/07/05 9:56] You: Prin, as you know well, avatrs can run a positive balance in the LL acct
[2008/07/05 9:56] You: I assume that, if we have a reserve, that's where it sits
[2008/07/05 9:57] ThePrincess Parisi: i mean a rl bank account statement
[2008/07/05 9:57] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Yes they can, and we can't force people to reveal their RL data ;)
[2008/07/05 9:57] ThePrincess Parisi: assume!
[2008/07/05 9:57] You: but we had a budget meeting with our treasurer to ask such questions :)
[2008/07/05 9:57] ThePrincess Parisi: force?
[2008/07/05 9:57] You: sorry you weren't able to join us.
[2008/07/05 9:57] Gwyneth Llewelyn: (I mean through a request in the RA, Prin)
[2008/07/05 9:57] ThePrincess Parisi: if shes got or hes got a money of ours................
[2008/07/05 9:57] You: I suggest an amendment to your motion
[2008/07/05 9:57] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I don't think there is a bank account, just a running account with LL
[2008/07/05 9:57] ThePrincess Parisi: then she needs to show us.. and take her name and mark out all rl datea but our money
[2008/07/05 9:57] You: ... for one thing an "audit" means an expert outside review at a certain level which costs singificant RL money.
[2008/07/05 9:57] MT Lundquist: so we have 5kus in linden labs?
[2008/07/05 9:57] ThePrincess Parisi: well if shes keep ing 5k in lindens?
[2008/07/05 9:58] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Actually, it's not *Sudane* that has the money, it's Rudeen
[2008/07/05 9:58] ThePrincess Parisi: so the 5k is in lindens with LL
[2008/07/05 9:58] You: .. so I prefer "review" as a word
[2008/07/05 9:58] ThePrincess Parisi: and we never let her withdraw
[2008/07/05 9:58] Gwyneth Llewelyn: No, it's 5k US$ with LL (LL allows both L$ and US$)
[2008/07/05 9:58] MT Lundquist: so if linden go bust or change their rules
[2008/07/05 9:58] ThePrincess Parisi: they are the same person..??? who ever it doesnt matter
[2008/07/05 9:58] You: .. for another there are in fact some ToS issues here
[2008/07/05 9:58] ThePrincess Parisi: yeah so does she take money out
[2008/07/05 9:58] MT Lundquist: cds loses $5kUS
[2008/07/05 9:58] ThePrincess Parisi: its just we have no clue what this really really is ..
[2008/07/05 9:58] ThePrincess Parisi: its a joke is what it is
[2008/07/05 9:59] Alexicon Kurka: so will you provide us with the exact data of the item you wish to buy thePrincess?
[2008/07/05 9:59] ThePrincess Parisi: brb im hungry
[2008/07/05 9:59] Gwyneth Llewelyn: The difference is that the "Rudeen" account has a separate login and password than Sudane's ;) The point being that different people might need to have access to the Estate Owner, say, if an accident happens, or the Treasurer changes or steps down, etc
[2008/07/05 9:59] Gwyneth Llewelyn: MT, *all* dealing with LL has risks
[2008/07/05 9:59] ThePrincess Parisi: its in the RA notes from ages ago.. six months ago..
[2008/07/05 9:59] You: Unfortunately Alex we have diverted at the members' request friom the tour device issue to an auditing issue
[2008/07/05 9:59] MT Lundquist: yes but the moneys not even working
[2008/07/05 9:59] Gwyneth Llewelyn: So, first things first.
[2008/07/05 10:00] DivineLolita Demonia: me too.. thank you for letting me sit in.. au revoir....
[2008/07/05 10:00] Gwyneth Llewelyn: We have a budget, right?
[2008/07/05 10:00] Gwyneth Llewelyn: And the budget approved specifically that Prin was allowed to buy a guided tour thingy?
[2008/07/05 10:00] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I'm right so far?
[2008/07/05 10:00] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I mean, it was not a "vague request" for "some money expenditure in the future"
[2008/07/05 10:01] You: .. so I move to amend Prin's motion to convey to Sudane as CDS treasurer three things: (a) thanks for the presentation last month, (b) confirmation that the alt Rudeen Edo only holds CDS assets, and (c) her suggestion for a neutral party who can have full access to Rudeen's LL acct US dollar and L$ transactions logs ... for purposes of a review for conformity to the posted monthly financials.
[2008/07/05 10:01] Gwyneth Llewelyn: but a specific request: Prin wants to buy a guided tour thingy
[2008/07/05 10:01] Gwyneth Llewelyn: and we've approved it
[2008/07/05 10:01] You: :)
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