Board Guild Meeting 19th April 2009 - Transcript

[Moon Adamant]

[11:18] Moon Adamant: we will start
[11:18] Moon Adamant: please remember that this meeting is transcripted
[11:19] Moon Adamant: it's just a minute
[11:19] Moon Adamant: agenda is on the blue box
[11:19] Moon Adamant: hmmm
[11:20] Moon Adamant: i'll save point 1 for later, in case Solomon or Lilith show up meanwhile
[11:20] Moon Adamant: 2. Info centre: business directory: Workgroup report
[11:20] Moon Adamant: Rose, report please
[11:20] Rose Springvale: smile
[11:20] Rose Springvale: i'm not on the workgroup i don think.. and if i am, they've not met as far as i know
[11:20] Moon Adamant: oh drat
[11:20] Rose Springvale: brian chairs i beleive
[11:21] Moon Adamant: i told them that you must be in the wg as PIO
[11:21] Gwyneth Llewelyn: brain chairs... I mean, bran chairs
[11:21] Rose Springvale: that's find.. but so is Brian
[11:21] Gwyneth Llewelyn *giggles*
[11:21] Gwyneth Llewelyn: ack
[11:21] Rose Springvale: fine*
[11:21] Moon Adamant: ok
[11:21] Rose Springvale: i'm happy to paricipate, but
[11:21] Rose Springvale: participate *
[11:21] Moon Adamant: it's just that ONE PIO must be part of teh group to work on the specs
[11:21] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Hmm Rose *is* PIO...
[11:22] Moon Adamant: or otherwise we'll get something you guys can't use
[11:22] Gwyneth Llewelyn: (sorry for pointing out the obvious)
[11:22] Rose Springvale: um, i don't thing so actually lol
[11:22] Rose Springvale: not sure what i am
[11:22] Gwyneth Llewelyn: oops
[11:22] Gwyneth Llewelyn: lol
[11:22] Moon Adamant: i'll try and get Brian
[11:22] Moon Adamant: because this wg doesn't report for ages
[11:22] Moon Adamant: ok... moving on
[11:22] Moon Adamant: 3. GMP workgroup report
[11:22] Moon Adamant: ok, i'll report
[11:23] Moon Adamant: after last meeting
[11:23] Moon Adamant: we were pretty much still at a stand still
[11:23] Moon Adamant: due mainly to me, i had no time in the past weeks to do the work i proposed to do
[11:23] Moon Adamant: nevertheless
[11:24] Moon Adamant: today's RA brought interesting developments
[11:24] Moon Adamant: you were all there, i know, but please beqar with me so this goes to record
[11:24] Moon Adamant: the RA and Chancellor
[11:24] Moon Adamant: requested the Guild
[11:25] Moon Adamant: to propose, in 30 days, two different proposals for the location of the Al-Andaluz sims in our territory
[11:25] Moon Adamant: this request
[11:25] Moon Adamant: overrides the vote the WG had passed
[11:25] Moon Adamant: of not contemplating the AA issue for the moment
[11:25] Moon Adamant: so now, we have to do it
[11:25] Moon Adamant: and full speed, lol
[11:26] Moon Adamant: i will try, during this week
[11:26] Rose Springvale: smiles
[11:26] Moon Adamant: to bring the work due to a steady point
[11:26] Moon Adamant: so that we can start looking at this question
[11:26] Moon Adamant: another thing we must discuss
[11:27] Moon Adamant: is that Rose being the AA representative on this matter (and others)
[11:27] Moon Adamant: we must hold meetings which she can attend
[11:27] Moon Adamant: so i will suggest
[11:27] Moon Adamant: that a meeting will be held on saturdays as well
[11:27] Rose Springvale raises hand...
[11:27] Moon Adamant: on american hours
[11:27] Moon Adamant: earlier than this hour
[11:27] Moon Adamant: yes?
[11:28] Rose Springvale: weekdays ARE better... but mid afternoon is painful to work.. is that the only time you are available during the week?
[11:28] Timo Gufler: saturdays are bad for me also
[11:28] Rose Springvale: so much is packed into saturdays
[11:28] Moon Adamant: Rose, unfortunately the europeans attending the workgroup are spread from GMT to EET
[11:28] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ahh yes.
[11:29] Gwyneth Llewelyn: *CET even
[11:29] Gwyneth Llewelyn: AH
[11:29] Rose Springvale: i have no idea what that means lol
[11:29] Gwyneth Llewelyn: yes, and Timo is in EET
[11:29] Gwyneth Llewelyn: *sigh*
[11:29] Moon Adamant: also, due to medication i need to take
[11:29] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Eastern Europe Time
[11:29] Timo Gufler: yes
[11:29] Moon Adamant: i can't make it later than 4 PM SLT
[11:29] Rose Springvale: (haha,... can you put it in slt?)
[11:29] Rose Springvale: how about earlier? like 7 slt am
[11:29] Moon Adamant: means that some of us are 10 hours ahead of SLT
[11:30] Timo Gufler: like me
[11:30] Moon Adamant: that's 15pm GMT, 16 PM CET, 17 PM EET
[11:30] Moon Adamant: on which day? saturday
[11:30] Moon Adamant: ?
[11:30] Rose Springvale: weekday
[11:30] Rose Springvale: see, that's what time you are setting for me at 1 slt
[11:30] Rose Springvale: 1500
[11:31] Moon Adamant: i am avalaible generally at that time, but can't speak for others
[11:31] Moon Adamant: another hmmm
[11:31] Moon Adamant: solution is
[11:31] Moon Adamant: i can liaise with you
[11:31] Gwyneth Llewelyn is not important to be around, but I could manage that time most days, except Wednesday I believe
[11:31] Moon Adamant: and pass the info into the wg meeting
[11:31] Rose Springvale: i'm good with that moon
[11:32] Moon Adamant: ah, yes, Wednesdays i can't
[11:32] Timo Gufler: what about 8 PM on a weekday?
[11:32] Rose Springvale: thursday?
[11:32] Moon Adamant: what timezone?
[11:32] Rose Springvale: 8 pm slt ?
[11:32] Rose Springvale: that's brutal for europeans lol
[11:32] Timo Gufler: PST
[11:32] Gwyneth Llewelyn: brutal indeed
[11:32] Moon Adamant: impossible for me Timo
[11:32] Timo Gufler: ok
[11:32] Moon Adamant: ok
[11:32] Moon Adamant: so provisorily
[11:33] Rose Springvale: moon, lets you and i liase
[11:33] Moon Adamant: let's agree on this
[11:33] Rose Springvale: and then if it works to meet as a group when i can't, np
[11:33] Moon Adamant: I'll liaise with Rose
[11:33] Moon Adamant: meetings to be transcripted too
[11:33] Moon Adamant: and i'll report to the WG
[11:33] Moon Adamant: and see if it works
[11:33] Rose Springvale: great
[11:33] Moon Adamant: do you all agree?
[11:34] Timo Gufler: 1 PM PST in thursday?
[11:34] Moon Adamant: that's teh hour of our wg, which remains
[11:34] Timo Gufler: ok
[11:35] Moon Adamant: sorry guys, but spanning ten timezones is complicated
[11:35] Gwyneth Llewelyn: hehe
[11:35] Gwyneth Llewelyn: We could lways have two workgroups...
[11:35] Gwyneth Llewelyn: I know.......
[11:35] Moon Adamant: nobody can on saturdays Gwyn
[11:35] Gwyneth Llewelyn: it's twice the trouble.
[11:36] Rose Springvale wonders if there is a bite your tongue animation in gywns inventory
[11:36] Gwyneth Llewelyn: True...
[11:36] Gwyneth Llewelyn: haha Rose
[11:36] Gwyneth Llewelyn: nooo
[11:36] Moon Adamant: and sundays are too full already
[11:36] Gwyneth Llewelyn *nods* @ Moon
[11:36] Timo Gufler: what about on sundays when there is no RA?
[11:36] Rose Springvale: in the next 30 days
[11:36] Rose Springvale: we have too many thing son the calendar on sundays
[11:36] Rose Springvale: lets go with what we have
[11:36] Moon Adamant: hmmm, how many slots woudl that be in the next 30 days?
[11:37] Rose Springvale: only the last week
[11:37] Rose Springvale: because of to limani
[11:37] Moon Adamant: it's too little
[11:37] Rose Springvale: agree
[11:37] Moon Adamant: guys. let's liaise
[11:38] Moon Adamant: it's easier for me too
[11:38] Moon Adamant: because i am rather free in my workhours and can be flexible
[11:38] Gwyneth Llewelyn: (the transcripts will also be on the forums, right?)
[11:38] Moon Adamant: surely
[11:38] Gwyneth Llewelyn: So, that helps
[11:38] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Although summaries work even better...
[11:38] Moon Adamant: those i will present to the WG weekly
[11:39] Rose Springvale: i dont think it will be all that hard to be honest
[11:39] Rose Springvale: we have tools to work with
[11:39] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Let's be optimistic, yes
[11:39] Moon Adamant: so, agreed on the option of liasing/transcripting/reporting to the wg?
[11:39] Rose Springvale: so move
[11:39] Rose Springvale:
[11:40] Gwyneth Llewelyn: Hi Pip
[11:40] Sonja Strom: Hi Pip
[11:40] Moon Adamant: lol, i'll start making a rule that i take silence as assent
[11:40] Pip Torok: hi gwyn
[11:40] Gwyneth Llewelyn: haha Moon
[11:40] Gwyneth Llewelyn agrees
[11:40] Moon Adamant: hi Pip, welcome
[11:40] Rose Springvale: (second gwyn)
[11:40] Rose Springvale: then we can just vote lol
[11:40] Moon Adamant: ok please vote then
[11:41] Gwyneth Llewelyn: aye on liaising
[11:41] Pip Torok: on the silence=assent?
[11:41] Rose Springvale: motion to have Moon and Rose liase on AA postision with Moon reporting to workgroup
[11:41] Moon Adamant: aye if you agree on the chair of the wg liasing with the AA representative in transcripted meetings and reporting back to the WG
[11:41] Rose Springvale: smile
[11:41] Rose Springvale: aye
[11:41] Pip Torok: aye
[11:41] Gwyneth Llewelyn already voted aye before time.
[11:41] Moon Adamant: Timo, Sonja, leni?
[11:42] Timo Gufler: aye...
[11:42] Sonja Strom: I don't totally understand that, but am ok with it.
[11:42] Leni Straaf: abstain
[11:42] Rose Springvale: moon, i was going to say
[11:42] Gwyneth Llewelyn: hehe
[11:42] Moon Adamant: and aye
[11:42] Moon Adamant: carried
[11:42] Rose Springvale: nm
[11:42] Moon Adamant: ok
[11:42] Moon Adamant: hmmm
[11:42] Moon Adamant: 4. Flag Workgroup report
[11:42] Moon Adamant: this one is easy
[11:43] Rose Springvale: smile
[11:43] Moon Adamant: since it's a ONE person wg
[11:43] Moon Adamant: me
[11:43] Moon Adamant: no work done
[11:43] Gwyneth Llewelyn: pfft
[11:43] Rose Springvale: lol
[11:43] Rose Springvale: fired
[11:43] Gwyneth Llewelyn: and lol
[11:43] Gwyneth Llewelyn: yes!
[11:43] Rose Springvale:
[11:43] Gwyneth Llewelyn seconds Rose's proposal to fire you
[11:43] Rose Springvale: withdrawn!
[11:43] Moon Adamant: lol, fire me fire me!
[11:43] Moon Adamant: ok
[11:43] Moon Adamant: hmmm
[11:44] Moon Adamant: record time today yay
[11:44] Rose Springvale: phew!
[11:44] Leni Straaf hates firing
[11:44] Rose Springvale: thanks moon!
[11:44] Gwyneth Llewelyn:
[11:44] Moon Adamant: heya
[11:44] Moon Adamant: wait
[11:44] Rose Springvale: we were just teasing her leni
[11:44] Moon Adamant: extraordinary point lol
[11:44] Moon Adamant: Extraordinary point after RA: plans for re-parcelling the Monastery plot in AM
[11:44] Gwyneth Llewelyn: aaah
[11:44] Moon Adamant: this should be an easy task
[11:45] Moon Adamant: but the AM convenants of maximum plot size must be taken into consideration
[11:45] Moon Adamant: and in fact
[11:45] Rose Springvale: how big is monastery parcel?
[11:45] Moon Adamant: if possible
[11:45] Moon Adamant: we should try to make it fit into the standard sizes
[11:45] Moon Adamant: don't know from memory
[11:45] Rose Springvale: we need to revise covenants on it too... has jamie released my notes yet?
[11:45] Moon Adamant: but it's a special parcel
[11:45] Moon Adamant: no....
[11:46] Rose Springvale: we don't want it to be special if we sell, okay, i'll nudge him
[11:46] Timo Gufler: 3072 m²
[11:46] Rose Springvale: thanks timo
[11:46] Moon Adamant: so i think we won't be able to turn it into standard sizes
[11:46] Rose Springvale: i've got a woman whose been waiting for an AM parcel for months
[11:46] Moon Adamant: yes, thanks Timo, as i suspected
[11:46] Moon Adamant: this is an easy job
[11:46] Moon Adamant: we only need to make a map
[11:47] Moon Adamant: and i can provide the original maps
[11:47] Moon Adamant: anyone wants to have a go?
[11:47] Pip Torok: is anyone prosing 4 plots facing the 4 plots we have already opposite the monastery?
[11:47] Rose Springvale: oh i hope not
[11:47] Moon Adamant: to be discussed Pip
[11:47] Rose Springvale: those were mews
[11:47] Moon Adamant: my personal opinion
[11:47] Pip Torok: (good!)
[11:47] Rose Springvale: we need opwn parcels imho
[11:47] Timo Gufler: what about splitting it into two plots
[11:47] Moon Adamant: but i think
[11:47] Moon Adamant: that due to the excellent view
[11:48] Moon Adamant: we should make it into two larger plots
[11:48] Rose Springvale: we never did get any chateaus in AM
[11:48] Rose Springvale: sighh
[11:48] Moon Adamant: ehehehe
[11:48] Gwyneth Llewelyn: aw
[11:48] Rose Springvale: it was in the plan!
[11:48] Moon Adamant: that's the joys of territory planning
[11:48] Timo Gufler: I have a chateau being built
[11:49] Moon Adamant: uyou plan for one thing and then it doesn'tt happen!
[11:49] Gwyneth Llewelyn: yay, TImo \o/ !
[11:49] Pip Torok: i rl timo?!
[11:49] Gwyneth Llewelyn: haha Pip
[11:49] Moon Adamant: look at CN south, which should be non-thematic
[11:49] Timo Gufler: in sllol
[11:49] Timo Gufler: in sl lol
[11:49] Moon Adamant: lol
[11:49] Moon Adamant: ok, anyone wants to have a go at this?
[11:50] Gwyneth Llewelyn *chuckles*
[11:50] Moon Adamant: or is it the usual fall-back-on-the-secretary?
[11:50] Gwyneth Llewelyn: /uhhuh:)
[11:50] Gwyneth Llewelyn: ã‹¡
[11:50] Timo Gufler: it depends on how much time there is...
[11:50] Moon Adamant: hmmm, there wasn't any discussion about time for this
[11:50] Gwyneth Llewelyn was trying to remember
[11:50] Moon Adamant: i would say that the same 30 days would be a nice deadline
[11:51] Gwyneth Llewelyn: "this term"
[11:51] Gwyneth Llewelyn *nods*
[11:51] Rose Springvale: no rush if we don't vote on sim for 30 days
[11:51] Rose Springvale: though
[11:51] Rose Springvale: even purchased third party sims are transferring in less than a day lately
[11:51] Moon Adamant: yes, but there is some preparation work next from Rudeen's side
[11:51] Moon Adamant: she has to feed the system with the two new plots
[11:52] Moon Adamant: two... whatever
[11:52] Timo Gufler: hehe
[11:52] Moon Adamant: looks around and sighs
[11:52] Moon Adamant: ok, i'll give it a go myself
[11:52] Timo Gufler: what kind of help is needed?
[11:52] Rose Springvale: sorry moon, i 'm terribel at this
[11:53] Rose Springvale: or i'd volunteer
[11:53] Moon Adamant: just drawing two plots on the map
[11:53] Gwyneth Llewelyn can't draw
[11:53] Gwyneth Llewelyn:
[11:53] Moon Adamant: taking into account the 4-metre rule
[11:53] Timo Gufler: on which map?
[11:53] Moon Adamant: that is, plots must have dimensions that are divisible by 4
[11:53] Timo Gufler: ON A MAP IN sl OR OUTSIDE?
[11:53] Moon Adamant: hmmm
[11:53] Timo Gufler: (sorry for caps)
[11:54] Moon Adamant: we have an original map in Photoshop and CAD
[11:54] Moon Adamant: i can get you a copy of the photoshop
[11:54] Moon Adamant: 8of either, actually, but i am assuming you don't do CAD)
[11:54] Rose Springvale: coem on timo.. take it
[11:54] Rose Springvale: you can do it
[11:54] Timo Gufler: I can take it
[11:54] Rose Springvale: she has to work on the flag!
[11:54] Moon Adamant: yay!
[11:55] Timo Gufler: but dont' have a CAD
[11:55] Moon Adamant: LOL
[11:55] Rose Springvale: thanks!!!
[11:55] Rose Springvale: psp will work!
[11:55] Moon Adamant: no problem Timo
[11:55] Moon Adamant: this is what we will do
[11:55] Moon Adamant: i'll prepare a detail for you
[11:55] Timo Gufler: ok, thank you
[11:55] Moon Adamant: with the dimensions of the Monastery plot anottated
[11:55] Moon Adamant: and you can easily work over it
[11:55] Gwyneth Llewelyn:
[11:55] Moon Adamant: i'll mail it to you
[11:55] Timo Gufler: should there be space between the two plots?
[11:56] Moon Adamant: no need
[11:56] Moon Adamant: because the AM covenant
[11:56] Moon Adamant: has defence rules for the plots
[11:56] Timo Gufler: very well
[11:56] Moon Adamant: meaning... you can't build up to the border, have to have X trees, etc
[11:57] Timo Gufler: so, my task is to divide the Monastery parcel into two parts and update the map?
[11:57] Moon Adamant: the parts you think fit, yes
[11:57] Moon Adamant: and publish a corrected detail map
[11:57] Moon Adamant: i can later on correct the official map
[11:58] Timo Gufler: not a big task
[11:58] Moon Adamant: it will be needed
[11:58] Moon Adamant: that you read the AM covenant
[11:58] Moon Adamant: because we define types of parcels
[11:58] Moon Adamant: by size
[11:58] Timo Gufler: hmm, yes
[11:58] Moon Adamant: so it may be convenient for you to make different sizes so they easily fit into the categories
[11:59] Rose Springvale: are we ready to adjourn?
[11:59] Moon Adamant: ok, sweet
[11:59] Moon Adamant: yes!
[11:59] Moon Adamant: motion to adjourn
[11:59] Rose Springvale: second!
[11:59] Moon Adamant: all agreeing?
[11:59] Timo Gufler: aye
[11:59] Sonja Strom: aye
[11:59] Gwyneth Llewelyn: yes!
[11:59] Leni Straaf: aye
[12:00] Moon Adamant: Pip?
[12:00] Pip Torok: aye
[12:00] Moon Adamant: and aye as well
[12:00] Moon Adamant: carried
[12:00] Moon Adamant: thank you guys