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Arias Ahren
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Discrimination

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This is not very long and may be a bit rambling but I think it is germane to the health and vitality of this community. Some of you may have noticed that Zanna, one of my partners, and I have put three 1024 contiguous lots up for sale in LA. Why have we done that? We were developing two art galleries that were to act as a backdrop for a SL university and were locating it in Locus Ameonus. We initially wanted to place it in CDS for a number of reasons: A democracy of sorts, numerous very attractive builds, and a community of some duration involved with itself. These are facts that remain, so why are we moving the University elsewhere?

Democracy: A democracy that supports significant discrimination is a democracy in name only. Example: There are many but I will cite a recent one involving the entity Stonebender. After months of almost total silence Stonbender emerges from their sleep issuing me a dictum in essence saying shut up or I will turn you off. This is after months of the most vile and often personal of insults being brandished about on these forms. Forgive me for being presumptuous, Stonebender, but what I got from you message was three things: I am all powerful and can turn you off in an instant, I am highly discriminatory, allowing some to say anything that they want and censuring others for the same or similar transgressions, and those transgressions better not be ad hominem in nature. I detest censorship. I realize that there needs to be some restriction relating to libel and slander. I do support the dictum that one crying fire in a crowded theater where there is no fire should be punished. To some degree I agree with the notion that ad hominem attacks are not in order, but I believe there are exceptions. What does one do with an individual who emerges with offensive rhetoric that is devoid of concepts? How does one rebut such an individual? Let’s take your entry Stonebender. As I mentioned there are three rather vague concepts contained therein, the three that I have already mentioned. What do I attack? I don’t have issue with someone being all powerful. I am a retired neurosurgeon and in the surgical theater I was both king and queen, people jumped to my commands or they were dismissed. No legal mumbo jumbo, a life was entirely in my hands. I do oppose discrimination realizing that we all discriminate; I am partial to the color blue. However when it is extreme as it was in your intervention and threat it needs to be challenged.

Now, back to the reasoning behind our decision to locate the University elsewhere. A democracy that is a democracy in name only will never be respected. Given that, we will never be able to attract and retain good teachers. Political squabbling to the extreme as it is here in CDS is a burden. I also, as I have noted elsewhere, have difficulties accepting the current leadership. Let me give you an example. I was at a gathering that Rose was putting on, a dance concert. Twenty or thirty folk were there and all seemed to be having a good time; I was. Then out of nowhere flashed An IM, it was Cindy. Kas took issue with what Cindy was saying and an IM fistfight ensued, that continued for some time. It got quite nasty. It reminded me of a barroom brawl between two women in rl, with pulling of hair, gouging of eyes and tearing of dresses (figuratively, that is). I know it ruined a number of party goers evening. I am horrified that individuals like this are at key posts in this, “democracy.”

Cindy Ecksol
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Re: Discrimination

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Arias Ahren wrote:

Now, back to the reasoning behind our decision to locate the University elsewhere. A democracy that is a democracy in name only will never be respected. Given that, we will never be able to attract and retain good teachers. Political squabbling to the extreme as it is here in CDS is a burden. I also, as I have noted elsewhere, have difficulties accepting the current leadership. Let me give you an example. I was at a gathering that Rose was putting on, a dance concert. Twenty or thirty folk were there and all seemed to be having a good time; I was. Then out of nowhere flashed An IM, it was Cindy. Kas took issue with what Cindy was saying and an IM fistfight ensued, that continued for some time. It got quite nasty. It reminded me of a barroom brawl between two women in rl, with pulling of hair, gouging of eyes and tearing of dresses (figuratively, that is). I know it ruined a number of party goers evening. I am horrified that individuals like this are at key posts in this, “democracy.”

I must be developing Alzheimer's, since I have absolutely no recollection of any such event. I expect that those who have known me for any time at all would find this account completely out of character, so perhaps I've also developed some kind of split personality psychosis with a second persona residing unknown in my brain who occasionally takes over against my will. Since I haven't taken up the habit of mind-altering drugs, the only explanation I can think of for such drastic changes in personality is that I'm developing a brain tumor, so I'll be sure to mention it to my physician at my next checkup. I guess it's a good thing that I participate in this community or I wouldn't be around such observant and caring people who would alert me to a problem like this at such an early stage.

While I'm waiting to hear the results of various diagnostic tests that I'm sure my physician will specify, I'll just note, Arias, that this is yet another personal attack, initiated by you in our public forum. For someone who so deplores the tone of conversation in this community, I recommend that you examine your own "tone", perhaps re-reading your postings as if they came from someone else before submitting them to the forum.

In fact, maybe you could delete this thread and try posting again, focusing on the point you wish to make and avoiding personal attacks.

Cindy

Arias Ahren
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Re: Discrimination

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I do think our actual conduct is relevant, for any of us, and perhaps more so for our leadership. This did happen. Rose might want to come forward and note it since she did make comments about it; certainly Kas will remember it, and then there are always the transcripts. I am not surprised that you don't remember the incident for two reasons. Your avatar was not at the gathering. You were IMing from somewhere else. You probably don't think what you were doing was inappropriate. Judgments related to conduct are quite subjective. I thought what happened was inappropriate and so did many others at the gathering. Let me try and help you remember. Suddenly this IM from you appeared. It was political in nature. Kas responded making the claim that what you were doing was a violation of the election statutes. You replied that the statutes had been revised and that you were perfectly within your legal right to be doing what you were doing. Things went quickly downhill from there. Remember now?

I am a neurosurgeon and I seriously doubt that you have a brain tumor.

Alzheimer's? Possibly, but I doubt it. Depends to a great extent on your age. One characteristic of early onset Alzheimer's is rather rapid alteration from lucidity to varying degrees of impairment

To some degree I understand what you are saying about personal attacks, but how does one deal with conduct without making it personal. If you have an individual who is temperas, dishonest, and frequently having difficulties with irrational outburst, how do you deal with it? You can ignore it or you can try and address it directly. Addressing a personality disorder is personal. From what little I know about you I don't have any reason to think that you have a personality disorder, but much that matters in our lives is personal. Addressing me is personal for you and I understand that. I find nothing wrong with that and am glad that you care enough to respond and attempt to explain yourself.

As I mentioned earlier I detest most censorship and think it is dangerous. I feel that people who continually attempt to silence others are a hazard, particularly those that are governmental servants. Unfortunately for our community a number of our newly elected leaders are intolerant of contention. If disagreed with they are quick to respond with, get out, shut up, or you are just simply scum.

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Cindy Ecksol
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Re: Discrimination

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Well, I guess I'm relieved to have at least one professional opinion that I have neither a brain tumor nor Alzheimer's. But then am I to understand that you are suffering from some kind of perceptual disorder? Such a shame for one with such incredible skills and who could be such a great asset to the community! Perhaps some time spent away from the forums wlll allow the symptoms to resolve. I look forward to your return as a changed man.

Cindy

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