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Communications Commission Chatlog 3

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Report to follow in the next few days. Many thanks to all who participated, and who steered the discussion in unanticipated, and positive, directions.

In attendance at meeting 3: Kaseido Quandry (chair), Lilith Ivory, Tor Karlsvalt, Rose Springvale and Delia Lake, in order of arrival.

[2010/06/22 18:15] Kaseido Quandry: Liith, you were here first - want to start uss off?
[2010/06/22 18:15] Kaseido Quandry laughs
[2010/06/22 18:15] Kaseido Quandry: what needs doing? what works?
[2010/06/22 18:15] Lilith Ivory: uhm ...ok
[2010/06/22 18:15] Tor Karlsvalt: yes, and I need to schedule a meeting.
[2010/06/22 18:16] Lilith Ivory: I promised about one year ago to take care about the CDS flickr group
[2010/06/22 18:16] Tor Karlsvalt: Wow Kas you did a lot of work here.
[2010/06/22 18:16] Lilith Ivory: would be great to bring more people in there
[2010/06/22 18:16] Lilith Ivory: also I think we should have more advertising in SL search
[2010/06/22 18:16] Lilith Ivory: it´s still hard to find the CDS
[2010/06/22 18:16] Kaseido Quandry: for events?
[2010/06/22 18:16] Kaseido Quandry: or real estate, or - ?
[2010/06/22 18:17] Lilith Ivory: places
[2010/06/22 18:17] Lilith Ivory: still only a few people know about the CDS at all
[2010/06/22 18:17] Rose Springvale: that's true
[2010/06/22 18:17] Rose Springvale: and if we could ever get a full exec staff, that's something the pio coudl focus on
[2010/06/22 18:18] Lilith Ivory: yes
[2010/06/22 18:18] Rose Springvale: but when one person is doing all events, and all publicity and then throw in new citizen greeting... things get lost
[2010/06/22 18:18] Kaseido Quandry: yes, absolutely -
[2010/06/22 18:18] Rose Springvale: i had a person leave the Souk today
[2010/06/22 18:18] Rose Springvale: and i asked why
[2010/06/22 18:18] Kaseido Quandry: the job can't be done by one person
[2010/06/22 18:18] Rose Springvale: he said.. he doesn't sell anything.
[2010/06/22 18:18] Rose Springvale: I asked if he did any marketing
[2010/06/22 18:18] Lilith Ivory: sigh
[2010/06/22 18:18] Rose Springvale: he said... what's marketing?
[2010/06/22 18:18] Lilith Ivory: I know what this person is talking about
[2010/06/22 18:18] Kaseido Quandry winces and laughs
[2010/06/22 18:18] Tor Karlsvalt: haha
[2010/06/22 18:18] Rose Springvale: then told me he had 20 other shops
[2010/06/22 18:18] Rose Springvale: so .. i let him go
[2010/06/22 18:19] Lilith Ivory: Fern gave me a list of unhappy merchants
[2010/06/22 18:19] Kaseido Quandry: but - I think that's a possible service
[2010/06/22 18:19] Rose Springvale: teh sims can't do it all though. Fern did?
[2010/06/22 18:19] Tor Karlsvalt: We need to draw people
[2010/06/22 18:19] Rose Springvale: in AA or CDS or both?
[2010/06/22 18:19] Kaseido Quandry: I *don't * know that it has to be a governmental project....
[2010/06/22 18:19] Lilith Ivory: yes want to have it?
[2010/06/22 18:19] Lilith Ivory: I had no time to read it yet
[2010/06/22 18:19] Rose Springvale: we used to have dj parties in the souk from time to time
[2010/06/22 18:19] Rose Springvale: but
[2010/06/22 18:19] Rose Springvale: cds hasn't spent the money for that
[2010/06/22 18:19] Lilith Ivory: sigh
[2010/06/22 18:19] Rose Springvale: sure Lil
[2010/06/22 18:19] Tor Karlsvalt: can we get the AKK ranch to highlight us as a good spot to ride?
[2010/06/22 18:20] Kaseido Quandry: good cross-marketing idea
[2010/06/22 18:20] Rose Springvale: do they do that? they already give us a vendor for demos... don't think they do that much eitehr
[2010/06/22 18:20] Tor Karlsvalt: sure we can put their LM givers in exchange for a plug.
[2010/06/22 18:20] Lilith Ivory: they have a lot of signs from other merchants
[2010/06/22 18:21] Kaseido Quandry: that's the kind of thing a marketing director could and should do
[2010/06/22 18:21] Rose Springvale: yes
[2010/06/22 18:21] Lilith Ivory: yes
[2010/06/22 18:21] Kaseido Quandry: but I don't think Eropean nation-states *have* marketing directors....
[2010/06/22 18:21] Tor Karlsvalt: haha
[2010/06/22 18:21] Rose Springvale: so many of the things in AA are done because of personal relationships... mostly between me and the people.
[2010/06/22 18:21] Lilith Ivory: sure we have hehe
[2010/06/22 18:22] Tor Karlsvalt: sure Kas they have tourism depts
[2010/06/22 18:22] Sandi Glas is Offline
[2010/06/22 18:22] Lilith Ivory: you get a title instead of more money ;-)
[2010/06/22 18:22] Kaseido Quandry nods
[2010/06/22 18:22] Lilith Ivory: I always had fights with those guys ;-)
[2010/06/22 18:23] Lilith Ivory: I wondered if we can have a clasified entry for each Sim
[2010/06/22 18:23] Tor Karlsvalt: can we buy a classified on FB
[2010/06/22 18:23] Rose Springvale: hmm
[2010/06/22 18:23] Rose Springvale: we should be able to be in search... but its such a mess
[2010/06/22 18:24] Lilith Ivory: you need to find the right text
[2010/06/22 18:24] Rose Springvale: that's more the commerce commission than communications though isn't it?
[2010/06/22 18:24] Tor Karlsvalt: anyone in FB with SL as an actvitiy might get our ad.
[2010/06/22 18:24] Kaseido Quandry: it's definitely possible, Tor - and one of the commercial real estate operations ran a Gmail ad in 2007-2008
[2010/06/22 18:24] Lilith Ivory: uhm yes hehe
[2010/06/22 18:24] Lilith Ivory: wasn´t me ;-)
[2010/06/22 18:24] Lilith Ivory: but commerce and communication should work together anyway
[2010/06/22 18:24] Kaseido Quandry: yes, definitely
[2010/06/22 18:25] Lilith Ivory: if every merchant would have a subscribeomatic and advertise his shop here we might get a lot of traffic
[2010/06/22 18:25] Kaseido Quandry: but how many of these shops are branches, and not the mainstore?
[2010/06/22 18:25] Lilith Ivory: but our merchants seem not to be very eager to work together
[2010/06/22 18:25] Rose Springvale: smiles. i'd say all Kas
[2010/06/22 18:26] Rose Springvale: not enough prims to be anyones main
[2010/06/22 18:26] Rose Springvale: maybe alexia
[2010/06/22 18:26] Kaseido Quandry: yeah, that's about what I figured
[2010/06/22 18:26] Rose Springvale: alexia has a shop in AA too
[2010/06/22 18:26] Lilith Ivory: you can always post the LM to your mainstore and the CDS shop
[2010/06/22 18:26] Lilith Ivory: that´s what I do
[2010/06/22 18:26] Kaseido Quandry: true true - but they survive on our ability to drive traffic to the sim
[2010/06/22 18:26] Kaseido Quandry: which, frankly, is our job
[2010/06/22 18:27] Rose Springvale: tha'ts why we do events
[2010/06/22 18:27] Lilith Ivory: Imo it mostly the job of the merchants itself to bring customers
[2010/06/22 18:27] Kaseido Quandry: exactly, Rose
[2010/06/22 18:27] Rose Springvale: and not all events have to be 5k musicians
[2010/06/22 18:27] Rose Springvale: anyway :)
[2010/06/22 18:27] Kaseido Quandry: Lilith, I don't think it works that way in the SL economy, the past few years
[2010/06/22 18:28] Lilith Ivory: somehow I managed it to sell not so bad my deserted homesim
[2010/06/22 18:28] Lilith Ivory: all customers come through my classified
[2010/06/22 18:28] Tor Karlsvalt: ok good.
[2010/06/22 18:28] Kaseido Quandry: yep, exactly
[2010/06/22 18:28] Lilith Ivory: I´m lucky that there are not many dirndl available in SL ;_)
[2010/06/22 18:28] Rose Springvale: maybe you can have an ad writing seminar!
[2010/06/22 18:28] Kaseido Quandry smiles
[2010/06/22 18:28] Tor Karlsvalt: i have a classified, but i never see it pop up in search.
[2010/06/22 18:28] Tor Karlsvalt: true lilith
[2010/06/22 18:29] Kaseido Quandry: Rose, not a bad idea!
[2010/06/22 18:29] Rose Springvale: stui wanted to do presentation too. he's quite good
[2010/06/22 18:29] Kaseido Quandry: one thing that really got traction at the second meeting was a CDS unconference
[2010/06/22 18:29] Lilith Ivory: great
[2010/06/22 18:29] Rose Springvale: unconference?
[2010/06/22 18:29] Tor Karlsvalt: i need to put drindl in my description.
[2010/06/22 18:29] Kaseido Quandry: an unconference is sort of a DIY conference -
[2010/06/22 18:29] Tor Karlsvalt: haha
[2010/06/22 18:29] Lilith Ivory: uhm?
[2010/06/22 18:30] Kaseido Quandry: you show up, sign up for a slot, and do a presentation on something you're good at
[2010/06/22 18:30] Lilith Ivory: oh I see
[2010/06/22 18:30] Kaseido Quandry: hi Delia!
[2010/06/22 18:30] Lilith Ivory: Hi Delia
[2010/06/22 18:30] Tor Karlsvalt: hi Delia
[2010/06/22 18:30] Rose Springvale: hey Delia!
[2010/06/22 18:30] Kaseido Quandry: we've got a wealth of talent here, and that's a good way to showcase it
[2010/06/22 18:30] Delia Lake: hi :)
[2010/06/22 18:30] Kaseido Quandry: people love talking about their expertise, and there's a lot we could do to spread that knowledge around
[2010/06/22 18:31] Rose Springvale: smiles
[2010/06/22 18:31] Lilith Ivory grins
[2010/06/22 18:31] Rose Springvale: not sure that's communications, but a great idea!
[2010/06/22 18:31] Kaseido Quandry: so, advertising, marketing, accounting, building, scripting, whatever-
[2010/06/22 18:31] Kaseido Quandry: well - one of teh challenges of communication is figuring out who knows what and who's interested in what, and getting them talking
[2010/06/22 18:31] Kaseido Quandry: we know the merchants need stuff, but don't know who can provide it
[2010/06/22 18:32] Kaseido Quandry: or we know I know social media marketing,b ut I don't know who might be inteterested in using it -
[2010/06/22 18:32] Rose Springvale: so perhaps back to the directory idea too?
[2010/06/22 18:32] Kaseido Quandry: this solves that problem set
[2010/06/22 18:32] Kaseido Quandry: absolutely - we could pretty much take the unconference agenda, and wham, directory of expertise
[2010/06/22 18:32] Rose Springvale: good.
[2010/06/22 18:32] Lilith Ivory: hehe sounds great
[2010/06/22 18:32] Lilith Ivory: kinda CDS yellow pages ;-)
[2010/06/22 18:33] Kaseido Quandry: grass roots self organizing FTW
[2010/06/22 18:33] Kaseido Quandry: yeah!!
[2010/06/22 18:33] Delia Lake: catching up with where we are here
[2010/06/22 18:33] Rose Springvale: smiles
[2010/06/22 18:34] Kaseido Quandry: ok, I've got a question for you all....
[2010/06/22 18:34] Kaseido Quandry: I was thinking about Arria's argument from the other day, that there should be clear distinctions between governmental information and operations, and not -
[2010/06/22 18:34] Kaseido Quandry: and it occurs to me -
[2010/06/22 18:34] Kaseido Quandry: while, if this were *my* circus, I'd just set up the whole thing in one big tent -
[2010/06/22 18:35] Kaseido Quandry: but - in current realities -
[2010/06/22 18:35] Kaseido Quandry: what if we separated out a "public information" set of tasks -
[2010/06/22 18:35] Kaseido Quandry: and just self-organize around the rest of it, like a city's business association?
[2010/06/22 18:36] Kaseido Quandry: is it necessary, or wise, to put all the marketing and comms under the government?
[2010/06/22 18:36] Rose Springvale: that' goes back to my suggestion that we open up notices kas
[2010/06/22 18:36] Kaseido Quandry: yep
[2010/06/22 18:36] Lilith Ivory: I don´t think it´s necessary
[2010/06/22 18:36] Anna Toussaint is Online
[2010/06/22 18:36] Rose Springvale: if we give everyone th ePOWER to do it, then the government can legitimately let go of the responsibility
[2010/06/22 18:37] Rose Springvale: but the power has been an issue
[2010/06/22 18:37] Lilith Ivory: I´d like to make the merchants work togehter but that´s not government business
[2010/06/22 18:37] Kaseido Quandry: that's my thought
[2010/06/22 18:37] Tor Karlsvalt: ah, i agree, don't need govt for puplic info.
[2010/06/22 18:37] Kaseido Quandry: there are things the Chancellor and team should definitely do - like make current and accurate copies of the constitution available
[2010/06/22 18:37] Rose Springvale: and then the government CAN focus
[2010/06/22 18:37] Kaseido Quandry: and we should identify those- yes, and focus
[2010/06/22 18:37] Rose Springvale: and announce government meetings, and deadlines
[2010/06/22 18:37] Tor Karlsvalt: Gov't could only just monitor for abuses.
[2010/06/22 18:37] Kaseido Quandry: yes
[2010/06/22 18:38] Kaseido Quandry: and put anything else out as an open suggestion
[2010/06/22 18:38] Rose Springvale: now
[2010/06/22 18:38] Rose Springvale: there is one other thing
[2010/06/22 18:38] Tor Karlsvalt: sure, i think that would be good.
[2010/06/22 18:38] Kaseido Quandry: if somebody picks it up, great, if not, well, it likely wouldn't get done anyway
[2010/06/22 18:38] Rose Springvale: a LOT of our citizens are shy about group notices
[2010/06/22 18:38] Tor Karlsvalt: I am sure some will worry about spammers.
[2010/06/22 18:38] Rose Springvale: so its good to have someone they can go to
[2010/06/22 18:38] Kaseido Quandry: that's good
[2010/06/22 18:38] Rose Springvale: especially those who are ESL
[2010/06/22 18:38] Tor Karlsvalt: ESL?
[2010/06/22 18:39] Kaseido Quandry: english as a seocnd language
[2010/06/22 18:39] Rose Springvale: english as a seond..yeah
[2010/06/22 18:39] Tor Karlsvalt: ah
[2010/06/22 18:39] Lilith Ivory: I see
[2010/06/22 18:39] Lilith Ivory: right :)
[2010/06/22 18:39] Rose Springvale: it is good to have a public information person to assist
[2010/06/22 18:39] Kaseido Quandry: that's a good idea
[2010/06/22 18:39] Delia Lake: yes.
[2010/06/22 18:41] Rose Springvale: it all goes back partially, to volunteers
[2010/06/22 18:41] Kaseido Quandry: yes - and goverment or no ogovernment, the same thing holds - either there are people who want to do the job, or there aren't
[2010/06/22 18:42] Gloria Delicioso is Online
[2010/06/22 18:42] Rose Springvale: though.. and i'll take credit here
[2010/06/22 18:42] Rose Springvale: if jobs were made smaller and didn't have to overwhelm a persons second life, we'd be more likely to get volunteers
[2010/06/22 18:42] Rose Springvale: so maybe that needs to be revisited
[2010/06/22 18:42] Lilith Ivory: right
[2010/06/22 18:42] Kaseido Quandry: yes yes yes
[2010/06/22 18:42] Delia Lake: i was thinking the same thing
[2010/06/22 18:42] Tor Karlsvalt: true
[2010/06/22 18:43] Rose Springvale: we could have a PIO who only had to do notices and publicity, like the job descriptions says
[2010/06/22 18:43] Kaseido Quandry: I've outlined one way the work can be divided, but the point is, it *should*
[2010/06/22 18:43] Rose Springvale: if we had event coordinators, and the cultural commissions actually continue to work
[2010/06/22 18:43] Rose Springvale: oh sorry, did't read the notecard again :)
[2010/06/22 18:43] Tor Karlsvalt: it is a long nc.
[2010/06/22 18:43] Kaseido Quandry: no big deal - it was just to start discussion
[2010/06/22 18:44] Kaseido Quandry: Tor avoids the forums! :D
[2010/06/22 18:44] Rose Springvale: yeah kas, you don't expect us to read LONG Ncs!
[2010/06/22 18:44] Tor Karlsvalt: it would take some doing.
[2010/06/22 18:44] Lilith Ivory: not only Tor ;-)
[2010/06/22 18:44] Tor Karlsvalt: haha, i read them but don't like to comment much
[2010/06/22 18:46] Rose Springvale: smiles
[2010/06/22 18:46] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[2010/06/22 18:47] Lilith Ivory thinks about advertising her closes now ;-)
[2010/06/22 18:47] Rose Springvale: closes?
[2010/06/22 18:47] Lilith Ivory: clothes
[2010/06/22 18:47] Rose Springvale: smile
[2010/06/22 18:47] Lilith Ivory: me does not speak much english
[2010/06/22 18:47] Rose Springvale: right :)
[2010/06/22 18:48] Lilith Ivory smiles
[2010/06/22 18:48] Kaseido Quandry: ok, what haven't we covered?
[2010/06/22 18:48] Rose Springvale: hmm
[2010/06/22 18:48] Rose Springvale: media?
[2010/06/22 18:48] Lilith Ivory: any of us should invite hie/his friends to the CDS flikr group
[2010/06/22 18:49] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[2010/06/22 18:50] Rose Springvale: brb phone
[2010/06/22 18:50] Kaseido Quandry: kk
[2010/06/22 18:50] Tor Karlsvalt: radio is a good idea.
[2010/06/22 18:50] Tor Karlsvalt: can we play it at Anzere/
[2010/06/22 18:50] Lilith Ivory: would be great
[2010/06/22 18:50] Delia Lake: didn't think of Anzere, Tor. good idea
[2010/06/22 18:50] Kaseido Quandry: yep - and I think that falls under the "citizen initiative" heading, yes?
[2010/06/22 18:50] Tor Karlsvalt: We get people using Anzere as a home base that, when aked, don't know what CDS is.
[2010/06/22 18:51] Kaseido Quandry: hmnmm
[2010/06/22 18:51] Lilith Ivory: there are a lot of CDS signs
[2010/06/22 18:51] Tor Karlsvalt: yep
[2010/06/22 18:51] Kaseido Quandry: (brb too)
[2010/06/22 18:51] Tor Karlsvalt: but it is amazing.
[2010/06/22 18:51] Lilith Ivory: yes
[2010/06/22 18:52] Tor Karlsvalt: one guy I met, uses it as home, but never went to CDS.
[2010/06/22 18:52] Lilith Ivory: maybe we should have a freebiestore in the CDS to bring them
[2010/06/22 18:52] Tor Karlsvalt: good idea.
[2010/06/22 18:52] Delia Lake: yes
[2010/06/22 18:52] Lilith Ivory: I bet any of us has nice transferable freebies
[2010/06/22 18:52] Lilith Ivory: I have a freebie sideboard in my shop already
[2010/06/22 18:53] Tor Karlsvalt: Could we ever get NCI to have a class in our school?
[2010/06/22 18:53] Kaseido Quandry: back, sorry
[2010/06/22 18:53] Lilith Ivory: wb
[2010/06/22 18:53] Tor Karlsvalt: wb
[2010/06/22 18:54] Kaseido Quandry: something that's been almost universal from everyone at the three meetings -
[2010/06/22 18:54] Kaseido Quandry: is a focus on *inworld,* and in-sim, communications, and much much less interest in out of SL advertising/marketing
[2010/06/22 18:54] Kaseido Quandry: so the report I'm going to submit is going to look *very* different from my proposal
[2010/06/22 18:55] Lilith Ivory: I never look at all those twitter and facebook pages
[2010/06/22 18:55] Tor Karlsvalt: Well, we need to target people who come in world.
[2010/06/22 18:55] Tor Karlsvalt: well I do. FB anyway.
[2010/06/22 18:55] Tor Karlsvalt: never got into twitter.
[2010/06/22 18:56] Lilith Ivory: I only do whe facebook yells at me
[2010/06/22 18:56] Kaseido Quandry: see, that's interesting, and *very* different from my experience doing business event marketing in SL
[2010/06/22 18:56] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[2010/06/22 18:56] Kaseido Quandry: but everybody's said, focus within SL, and within the sims
[2010/06/22 18:56] Tor Karlsvalt: i got tired of tweets.
[2010/06/22 18:57] Lilith Ivory: how does it work to get a pic of our Sims on the startup screen?
[2010/06/22 18:58] Kaseido Quandry: oh wow, no clue
[2010/06/22 18:58] Tor Karlsvalt: oh that is a good idea Lillith
[2010/06/22 18:58] Lilith Ivory: I´ve been told a lot of people follow those suggestions
[2010/06/22 18:58] Delia Lake: i've wondered that too, Lilith
[2010/06/22 18:58] Kaseido Quandry: and at least one person has pointed out, the CDS sims are looking kind of not state of the art
[2010/06/22 18:58] Lilith Ivory: some, not all
[2010/06/22 18:58] Tor Karlsvalt: oh, our trees could be improved.
[2010/06/22 18:58] Lilith Ivory: AA are Sims we can be proud of
[2010/06/22 18:59] Tor Karlsvalt: :)
[2010/06/22 18:59] Delia Lake: i think that some of our sims look better than many of those featured
[2010/06/22 18:59] Tor Karlsvalt: might be a good fundraizing campaign. Money for an facelift.
[2010/06/22 18:59] Kaseido Quandry: sounds like a good bunch of suggestions for a marketing director
[2010/06/22 18:59] Delia Lake: /
[2010/06/22 18:59] Kaseido Quandry: Tor, interesting idea
[2010/06/22 18:59] Delia Lake: you mean the old LL free trees, Tor?
[2010/06/22 19:00] Tor Karlsvalt: yes
[2010/06/22 19:00] Lilith Ivory: there is a garden store who has agreements with winterfell and caledon already
[2010/06/22 19:00] Tor Karlsvalt: look at Cedar Island
[2010/06/22 19:00] Rose Springvale: back
[2010/06/22 19:00] Kaseido Quandry: interesting, Lilith!
[2010/06/22 19:00] Kaseido Quandry: wb Rose
[2010/06/22 19:00] Lilith Ivory: an official should talk to this guy also
[2010/06/22 19:00] Rose Springvale: smiles. featured sims.. application for showcase
[2010/06/22 19:00] Kaseido Quandry smiles at Rose
[2010/06/22 19:00] Tor Karlsvalt: good idea lillith
[2010/06/22 19:01] Lilith Ivory: I bought some season changing trees there
[2010/06/22 19:01] Rose Springvale: and i that would be hold on, have it here
[2010/06/22 19:01] Rose Springvale: Realism?
[2010/06/22 19:01] Lilith Ivory: moment
[2010/06/22 19:01] Tor Karlsvalt: oh here is a fundraizing idea for the new schloss.
[2010/06/22 19:01] Rose Springvale: they sell bulk, maybe its Uni's
[2010/06/22 19:01] Rose Springvale: why do we need to rais funds for the new schloss?
[2010/06/22 19:01] Delia Lake: i have tons and tons of trees, most copy
[2010/06/22 19:01] Rose Springvale: that's a cds paid build
[2010/06/22 19:01] Tor Karlsvalt: POP. Pay On a Prim.
[2010/06/22 19:02] Tor Karlsvalt: why not
[2010/06/22 19:02] Lilith Ivory: oh yes Uni sounds familiar
[2010/06/22 19:02] Rose Springvale: we have a fundraising thing for the guild planned
[2010/06/22 19:02] Rose Springvale: uni ninetails
[2010/06/22 19:02] Rose Springvale: lilith and Delia have been here.. we do an auction
[2010/06/22 19:02] Rose Springvale: lots of fun
[2010/06/22 19:02] Rose Springvale: raises tier for the guild for the year
[2010/06/22 19:03] Rose Springvale: but guild now CONTRACTS with CDS, and is paid for the structures build by the community
[2010/06/22 19:03] Lilith Ivory: I think so - try to find the trees in my messy inventory
[2010/06/22 19:03] Delia Lake: i have plenty of copy trees
[2010/06/22 19:03] Kaseido Quandry: ok, any last thoughts or directions before we wrap?
[2010/06/22 19:04] Rose Springvale: last meeting kas?
[2010/06/22 19:04] Kaseido Quandry: yep
[2010/06/22 19:04] Rose Springvale: did anyone talk about office hours for government?
[2010/06/22 19:04] Kaseido Quandry: if anybody's got later thoughts, totally IM me
[2010/06/22 19:04] Kaseido Quandry: nope
[2010/06/22 19:04] Rose Springvale: there is a law about it, but i'm never sure which ones are still active
[2010/06/22 19:04] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[2010/06/22 19:04] Lilith Ivory: I didn´t know there is a law
[2010/06/22 19:05] Rose Springvale: anyone talk about group consolidation?
[2010/06/22 19:05] Kaseido Quandry: nope
[2010/06/22 19:05] Rose Springvale has spent time reading the laws
[2010/06/22 19:05] Rose Springvale: how do you all feel about having separate AA and CDS groups?
[2010/06/22 19:05] Lilith Ivory smiles
[2010/06/22 19:05] Tor Karlsvalt: that was a topic at a town hall last term.
[2010/06/22 19:05] Kaseido Quandry: I think it's a bad idea, assuming the merger
[2010/06/22 19:05] Tor Karlsvalt: i remember the topic came up.
[2010/06/22 19:05] Rose Springvale: but how do we resolve?
[2010/06/22 19:05] Lilith Ivory: but not easy to change
[2010/06/22 19:06] Delia Lake: i think the office hours for RA and for Chancellor are still active
[2010/06/22 19:06] Tor Karlsvalt: they didn't.
[2010/06/22 19:06] Rose Springvale: AA has lots of cultural things that cds will not want to hear about
[2010/06/22 19:06] Lilith Ivory: when are they?
[2010/06/22 19:06] Rose Springvale: we are supposed to set them
[2010/06/22 19:06] Kaseido Quandry: yes, it said that right in my orientation kit... oops, there isn't one :p
[2010/06/22 19:06] Lilith Ivory: oh ok
[2010/06/22 19:06] Delia Lake: on the portal
[2010/06/22 19:06] Delia Lake: lol, Kas
[2010/06/22 19:06] Rose Springvale: that's why i thougth posting office hours instead of online indicators
[2010/06/22 19:06] Rose Springvale: kas, thats a good point
[2010/06/22 19:07] Lilith Ivory: should be available inworld also
[2010/06/22 19:07] Kaseido Quandry: yeah, either/or, one would think
[2010/06/22 19:07] Rose Springvale: Tor and i had started on that
[2010/06/22 19:07] Rose Springvale: and i still do my notecards
[2010/06/22 19:07] Lilith Ivory: as interested people might not know about the portal
[2010/06/22 19:07] Tor Karlsvalt: our new resident was talking about one
[2010/06/22 19:07] Delia Lake: the only good thing about my long rl conf calls is that i get to read something more interesting---CDS laws
[2010/06/22 19:07] Rose Springvale: Trebor?
[2010/06/22 19:07] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[2010/06/22 19:07] Rose Springvale: oh delia
[2010/06/22 19:07] Kaseido Quandry: I think it was three months before *I* knew about the portal - it doesn't come up in Google search
[2010/06/22 19:07] Tor Karlsvalt: yes
[2010/06/22 19:07] Rose Springvale: kas, didn't i give you notecards???
[2010/06/22 19:08] Tor Karlsvalt: he was thinking of a picture book abt cds
[2010/06/22 19:08] Kaseido Quandry mutters and whistles
[2010/06/22 19:08] Tor Karlsvalt: with info
[2010/06/22 19:08] Delia Lake: i've been thinking about that also, Tor
[2010/06/22 19:08] Delia Lake: i think we should do that
[2010/06/22 19:08] Rose Springvale: the problem is, it has to be automatic, and it needs to go to from an official right away
[2010/06/22 19:08] Rose Springvale: the contack with notes
[2010/06/22 19:08] Delia Lake: yes rose
[2010/06/22 19:08] Tor Karlsvalt: yes
[2010/06/22 19:08] Anna Toussaint is Offline
[2010/06/22 19:08] Rose Springvale: the chancellor and whoever else is named automatically gets notice whenever ANY land changes hands
[2010/06/22 19:09] Rose Springvale: so someone should be getting all the names, and sending notes. That's another thing SuperRose did
[2010/06/22 19:09] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[2010/06/22 19:09] Anna Toussaint is Online
[2010/06/22 19:09] Rose Springvale: but when the new administration came in, i even asked about it
[2010/06/22 19:09] Rose Springvale: and was told that all new citizens are contacted
[2010/06/22 19:09] Rose Springvale: though some people who bought land from me never were
[2010/06/22 19:09] Kaseido Quandry: lol, right
[2010/06/22 19:10] Rose Springvale: that is a really fun job
[2010/06/22 19:10] Rose Springvale: i'd love to be welcome wagon lol
[2010/06/22 19:10] Rose Springvale: have a basket of goodies
[2010/06/22 19:10] Lilith Ivory: hehe
[2010/06/22 19:10] Rose Springvale: offer friendship
[2010/06/22 19:10] Rose Springvale: show people around.
[2010/06/22 19:10] Rose Springvale: its fun
[2010/06/22 19:10] Rose Springvale: MUCH more fun that meetings!
[2010/06/22 19:10] Tor Karlsvalt: http://forums.slcds.info/viewtopic.php? ... 601#p15601
[2010/06/22 19:10] Rose Springvale: than*
[2010/06/22 19:11] Kaseido Quandry: see, there's a job that suits everyine
[2010/06/22 19:11] Tor Karlsvalt: that was Treb's idea
[2010/06/22 19:11] Lilith Ivory: mostly it is :)
[2010/06/22 19:11] Kaseido Quandry: *everyone
[2010/06/22 19:11] Rose Springvale: here is one problem we have in cds
[2010/06/22 19:11] Rose Springvale: because we've been around so long
[2010/06/22 19:11] Rose Springvale: most everything has been tried, or started
[2010/06/22 19:11] Rose Springvale: two years ago, i went through each sim and made a list of all merchants
[2010/06/22 19:12] Rose Springvale: the next term, Brian put them into a directory
[2010/06/22 19:12] Rose Springvale: and tried to get the kiosks working
[2010/06/22 19:12] Lilith Ivory: those things need to be updated
[2010/06/22 19:12] Lilith Ivory: lots of work
[2010/06/22 19:12] Tor Karlsvalt: yes and there is an error on them
[2010/06/22 19:12] Rose Springvale: the last time i was in the exec office, we had no access to the kiosks
[2010/06/22 19:12] Tor Karlsvalt: or not the Kiosks but the info givers.
[2010/06/22 19:12] Rose Springvale: but i saw in the budget that sonja approved payment on them, so hopefully now we have perms
[2010/06/22 19:13] Rose Springvale: those are a script i think .. jon? did? or maybe flyingroc
[2010/06/22 19:13] Rose Springvale: the kiosks are a good tool, but someone needs to have perms and update them
[2010/06/22 19:13] Tor Karlsvalt: well it was fixed but a link must of changed.
[2010/06/22 19:13] Tor Karlsvalt: sure
[2010/06/22 19:13] Rose Springvale: i put all the land sale notecards in them
[2010/06/22 19:13] Rose Springvale: the two that i could mod
[2010/06/22 19:14] Lilith Ivory: we should remove the others
[2010/06/22 19:14] Lilith Ivory: it´s anoying to get old info
[2010/06/22 19:14] Tor Karlsvalt: yes, and looks bad.
[2010/06/22 19:14] Kaseido Quandry: exactly
[2010/06/22 19:14] Rose Springvale: or the sim is dead
[2010/06/22 19:14] Tor Karlsvalt: right
[2010/06/22 19:15] Lilith Ivory: a lot of visitors miss people in our Sims anyway
[2010/06/22 19:15] Rose Springvale: i've thought about that too :)
[2010/06/22 19:15] Rose Springvale: want to end the meeting kas?
[2010/06/22 19:15] Tor Karlsvalt: yes, I try to greet ppl
[2010/06/22 19:16] Rose Springvale: we can keep chatting, but this is off topic probably
[2010/06/22 19:16] Tor Karlsvalt: always chasing green dots.
[2010/06/22 19:16] Kaseido Quandry: yep, let's call it
[2010/06/22 19:16] Kaseido Quandry: thanks all, and we're off the log

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