[12:04] Fern Leissa: Hi Arria..
[12:04] Fern Leissa: 
Having some technical problems
[12:04] Pip Torok: hi ...
[12:04] Fern Leissa: Hi Pip
[12:04] Tor Karlsvalt: hi all
[12:04] Fern Leissa: Hi Tor
[12:04] Fern Leissa: Havin some promlems I am
[12:05] Tor Karlsvalt: yes technical problems all week
[12:05] Tor Karlsvalt: esp since the last update
[12:05] (Amacci Classic AO "Lite" - backup copy): Sit anywhere: On
[12:05] Pip Torok: that explains alot
[12:06] Fern Leissa: Yeah didn't help trying to walk around SLB8
[12:06] Tor Karlsvalt: fyi, if you have shared media, the budget webpage is on the wall
[12:06] Tor Karlsvalt: no
[12:06] Tor Karlsvalt: lag was bad at SL8B
[12:06] Tor Karlsvalt: esp. the first day
[12:06] Agenda Giver owned by Cindy Ecksol gave you 'RA Meeting - 26th June - Agenda' ( http://slurl.com/secondlife/Colonia%20Nova/13/165/41 ).
[12:06] Tor Karlsvalt: seems to have subsided a bit
[12:07] Fern Leissa: Yeah I agree Tor. A little better
[12:07] Tor Karlsvalt: of course LL suggests you use system hair and cloths.
[12:07] Fern Leissa: not a chance lol
[12:07] Tor Karlsvalt: but who wants to be caught looking like a noob who just hatched. hah
[12:07] Tor Karlsvalt: yes fern
[12:08] Pip Torok:
[12:08] Fern Leissa: hehe
[12:08] Tor Karlsvalt: brb
[12:08] Tor Karlsvalt: need to fill my coffee cup
[12:08] Fern Leissa: Where is everybody Pip?
[12:09] Pip Torok: Arria ... Rosie may well not be here (has RL houseguests)
[12:09] Arria Perreault: Hi all
[12:09] Fern Leissa: Oh btw trying to negotiate for leaving 1/2 later for rl party so I can catch part of your reading.
[12:09] Fern Leissa: Hi Arria
[12:09] Arria Perreault: Sonja will be late too
[12:09] Arria Perreault: we have quorum
[12:09] Arria Perreault: we can start
[12:10] Arria Perreault: the agenda is in the box
[12:10] Fern Leissa: kk . Esp as we have the poetry reading afterwards
[12:10] Tor Karlsvalt: b
[12:10] Fern Leissa: wb
[12:10] Pip Torok: that film should be re-titled "Always on Sundays " ...
[12:11] Fern Leissa:
[12:11] Tor Karlsvalt: well summer is hard to keep ppl online
[12:11] Arria Perreault: yes, I agree
[12:11] Arria Perreault: we try to make a short meeting today
[12:11] Arria Perreault: we have the budget to discuss
[12:12] Fern Leissa: Yeah.. I'm gonna be late for a rl party
[12:12] Arria Perreault: this important for the Chancellor
[12:12] Fern Leissa: Yes. Sorry Arria
[12:12] Tor Karlsvalt: thank you Arria
[12:12] Arria Perreault: Admin Part
[12:12] Arria Perreault: a. Review this agenda.
[12:12] Arria Perreault: do you agree with the agenda?
[12:12] Pip Torok: yes
[12:13] Fern Leissa: yes
[12:13] Arria Perreault: ok
[12:13] Arria Perreault: b. Rights to write in the Forums
[12:13] Arria Perreault: Pip told me that he cannot write in the forum's part of the RA
[12:13] Arria Perreault: I can myself
[12:13] Arria Perreault: does anyone alse have trouble?
[12:14] Fern Leissa: I didn't check today, but I was able to do so in the recent past
[12:14] Pip Torok: probably noone else has tried..
[12:14] Callipygian Christensen is Offline
[12:14] Arria Perreault: I will ask all RA member to make a test. then I will write to Delia
[12:14] Arria Perreault: is it ok?
[12:14] Pip Torok: i had hoped to put the 7-day in the same thread as the meeting announcement but i cdnt
[12:15] Arria Perreault: I understand, Pip. Only SC have admin rights
[12:15] Fern Leissa: I just got in to the RA Legislative Discussion section w/o problem
[12:15] Arria Perreault: it is right that the law allows the LRA to have an access to all communication channels of CDS
[12:16] Arria Perreault: good, Fern
[12:16] Pip Torok: ah .. then can it be set-down somewhere who has posting rights to which forums?
[12:16] Arria Perreault: I can ask Delia for that too, but basically it's the SC and probably Gwyn
[12:17] Arria Perreault: I think Aliasi should have too
[12:17] Tor Karlsvalt: Were the branch specific forums intended for announcements?
[12:17] Fern Leissa: You mean who has the rights to grant access Arria?
[12:17] Arria Perreault: I will ask Delia
[12:18] Pip Torok: what i meant are the rights to make regular posts within certain sections rather than the ability to amend the permissions
[12:18] Arria Perreault: it was in the Communication Bill
[12:18] Pip Torok: thank you
[12:18] Arria Perreault: ok
[12:18] Fern Leissa: So Arria... you will check w/ Delia to see why Pip can't post?
[12:18] Arria Perreault: yes, I will
[12:18] Fern Leissa:
[12:19] Tor Karlsvalt: Pip, I thought your question was to be able to post to the RA forum.
[12:19] Arria Perreault: do you have the right role in the CDS group: gov?
[12:19] Popea Heron is Offline
[12:19] Pip Torok: no tor ... within the Forums are different sections with varying permissions
[12:19] Arria Perreault: like me now
[12:20] Tor Karlsvalt: yes
[12:20] Tor Karlsvalt: and two for RA
[12:20] Tor Karlsvalt: one is reserved for the LRA
[12:20] Pip Torok: right ...
[12:20] You decline Creating a Community: Steampunk Environments from A group member named Wordsmith Jarvinen.
[12:20] Tor Karlsvalt: the other is for RA members in general
[12:20] Pip Torok: ah! ...
[12:20] Arria Perreault: yes, it's so
[12:21] Pip Torok: so i wd need to start a new thread to declare a 7-day ...
[12:21] Tor Karlsvalt: yes
[12:21] Arria Perreault: yes
[12:21] Tor Karlsvalt: well in the RA member thread
[12:21] Tor Karlsvalt: or the general one
[12:21] Gwyneth Llewelyn is Offline
[12:22] Arria Perreault: can we go further?
[12:22] Arria Perreault: c. 7-day votes
[12:22] Pip Torok: yes
[12:22] Tor Karlsvalt: Just a suggestion, but prolly best if that stuff be posted in the RA forum so as not to get lost in the weeds
[12:22] Fern Leissa: Yes
[12:22] Arria Perreault: Pip has requested a 7-day vote.
[12:22] Sonja Strom is Online
[12:22] Valibrarian Gregg is Online
[12:22] Tor Karlsvalt: sonja has logged on
[12:22] Arria Perreault: if we have to vote during this meeting, other members will have a 7-day vote
[12:23] Arria Perreault: yes, I saw
[12:23] Pip Torok: in case the meeting overruns 9ill also need set-up time for the poetry Sunday
[12:23] Arria Perreault: d. Recorder
[12:23] Arria Perreault: yes, Pip
[12:23] Arria Perreault: I have infortunately lost the 2/3 of the transcript of the Town Hall
[12:24] Arria Perreault: I apoologize for that
[12:24] Fern Leissa: np. It happens.
[12:24] Pip Torok: agrees with Fern
[12:24] Arria Perreault: it reminded me recorder we had in the past. it sent the logs in an emal
[12:24] Arria Perreault: email
[12:24] Tor Karlsvalt: maybe someone has it
[12:24] Arria Perreault: I have asked Cindy
[12:24] Sonja Strom: Hello everyone sorry I'm late.
[12:25] Arria Perreault: Hi SOnja ㋡
[12:25] Fern Leissa: Hi Sonja
[12:25] Pip Torok: hi Sonja!
[12:25] Arria Perreault: we are in the admin part
[12:25] Sonja Strom: ok
[12:25] Arria Perreault: I am looking for the old recorder we had
[12:25] Tor Karlsvalt: those of you who have v2 should be able to see the budget on the prim
[12:25] Arria Perreault: thx or
[12:25] Arria Perreault: Tor*
[12:26] Arria Perreault: e. Inquire for speakers on today's agenda items.
[12:26] Arria Perreault: I think we will all speak today ㋡
[12:26] Valibrarian Gregg is Offline
[12:26] Arria Perreault: II. Concerns of Citizens
[12:26] Valibrarian Gregg is Online
[12:26] Marian Sapphire is Online
[12:26] Fern Leissa: I'd definitly like to speak for a few minutes on the tier policy
[12:27] Arria Perreault: does anyone wants to speak as citizen
[12:27] Arria Perreault: ?
[12:27] Fern Leissa: no
[12:27] Valibrarian Gregg is Offline
[12:27] Pip Torok: no
[12:27] Tor Karlsvalt: no
[12:27] Arria Perreault: I have a citizen concern for myself
[12:27] Arria Perreault: it's about the Pavillion at SL8B
[12:27] Valibrarian Gregg is Online
[12:28] Arria Perreault: I have found great that Tor and Rosie have mde this pavillion
[12:28] Arria Perreault: I think that it is a good presence for CDS
[12:28] Arria Perreault: but they have ask for contributions
[12:28] Arria Perreault: I guess several people have responded
[12:29] Arria Perreault: I did and I was surprised that in the final result no one of my stuffs were exhibited. Only the notecard was used.
[12:29] Arria Perreault: I have tried to discuss with you Tor and with Rosie
[12:30] Arria Perreault: and I hareally had to insist to see things changed
[12:30] Arria Perreault: My concerns are:
[12:31] Arria Perreault: 1) when someone asks for contribution for a CDS project, he/she has a duty to inform people about their contribution and to talk with them. I don't see such exhibitions like artist's artworks
[12:32] Arria Perreault: 2) It's an official presentation of CDS. So I think citizen poeple have to be taken in account
[12:32] Arria Perreault: I have to add that we have finally found a solution that was good for me
[12:32] Arria Perreault: I don't know if you will add something, Tor?
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[12:33] Arria Perreault: or someone else?
[12:33] Tor Karlsvalt: ys]
[12:33] Arria Perreault: ok
[12:34] Pip Torok: just one concern from mizou ... about the orange pavilion in LA ...
[12:34] Pip Torok: "will it be taken down now that floralia is over?"
[12:34] Tor Karlsvalt: The SL8B team did indeed ask for contributions from citizens and friends of CDS.
However the team still will decide what is placed in the pavilion and where anything is placed.
The application for SL8B, the build of the exhibit, it's theme and its execution are the responsibility of the Chancellor and the team charged with the duty of finishing the exhibit.
As such, the Exhibitors, acknowledged by LL and the Chancellor have no obligation to place every contribution given to the team. Indeed, the team's objective is to create an exhibit that CDS can be proud of.
[12:35] Tor Karlsvalt: yes, I will tell Anna to remove he bumper cars.
[12:37] Arria Perreault: Tor, I understand that you don't have to take every given object, but you have to inform people and maybe to talk with them. I am talking about the internal process in CDS.
[12:37] Fern Leissa: brb
[12:37] Arria Perreault: ok
[12:38] Arria Perreault: can we go to the next point now?
[12:38] Pip Torok: yes
[12:38] Arria Perreault: a. CDS Budget
[12:38] Tor Karlsvalt: Frankly, Arria, I don't. And given the deadlines we had, I did not think it conducive to a good result to get embroiled in arguments while the team had deadlines.
[12:39] Sonja Strom: Maybe this discussion is not yet complete?
[12:39] Arria Perreault: it's a question of organization, in my point of view.
[12:39] Arria Perreault: in my opinion, request for contribution = feedbacks
[12:39] Valibrarian Gregg is Offline
[12:40] Tor Karlsvalt: noted
[12:40] Arria Perreault: thank you
[12:40] Arria Perreault: any other comments, requests?
[12:40] Arria Perreault: concern?
[12:40] Fern Leissa: I agree with Arria here. At least explain the constraints and deadlines and why suggestions were not included
[12:40] Sonja Strom: I would like to say one thing about that too,
[12:40] Arria Perreault: ok, Sonja
[12:41] Sonja Strom: mostly because there were requests made for people to submit materials.
[12:41] JJ Drinkwater is Offline
[12:41] Sonja Strom: Then when people submitted them, naturally they would want to either have them be included in the exhibit,
[12:41] Sonja Strom: or for them to be given an explanation why they were not.
[12:42] Sonja Strom: Maybe not everything could be included,
[12:42] Sonja Strom: that is always a possibility.
[12:42] Tor Karlsvalt: We do not have time to offer that kind of feedback on every item offered. And much provided was not used.
[12:42] Sonja Strom: But, respect should be given to the work that was put into it,
[12:43] Sonja Strom: It is nice to try to include everything,
[12:43] Pip Torok notes the process resembles an editor accepting/rejecting/amending articles for inclusion within a journal
[12:43] Tor Karlsvalt: it is unrealistic to assume we have time to cretique, offer feedback and wait for responces while we have items that are already good and far better.
[12:43] Sonja Strom: and then to explain why certain things could not be used to the people who contributed them.
[12:43] Sonja Strom: Whether or not you had time to let people know that is a matter of perspective.
[12:43] Tor Karlsvalt: That can be done now and had
[12:43] Tor Karlsvalt: had
[12:43] Sonja Strom: Personally I believe it could have been done.
[12:44] Tor Karlsvalt: has
[12:44] Sonja Strom: I have done that kind of thing myself...
[12:44] Tor Karlsvalt: but i don't think a public airing is warrented on this matter
[12:44] Sonja Strom: A public airing of what?
[12:44] Tor Karlsvalt: reasons why items are not used.
[12:44] Tor Karlsvalt: this has already been done
[12:44] Sonja Strom: I did not mean to say each item should be explained here in the RA...
[12:45] Arria Perreault: it's the price when you ask for contribution, Tor
[12:45] Sonja Strom: what I was trying to say was, it would have been good if you would have had better communication with Arria about her contributions, if not those of others as well.
[12:45] Tor Karlsvalt: I disagree Arria
[12:46] Sonja Strom: That is about all I want to say about it. Thanks
[12:46] Tor Karlsvalt: others seemed to understand that what we wanted to use would be used.
[12:46] Arria Perreault: the risk is now that poeple will hesitate to contribute
[12:46] Tor Karlsvalt: I disagree
[12:46] Arria Perreault: we will see
[12:47] Tor Karlsvalt: to my recollection we have not been in SL8b since the 5th one
[12:47] Arria Perreault: Tor, we are happy to have this pavillion
[12:48] Arria Perreault: I think that we have to respect some processes when contributions are asked for an official CDS project
[12:49] Arria Perreault: that's my concern and nothing else
[12:49] Arria Perreault: can we go to the next point now?
[12:49] Tor Karlsvalt: surely
[12:49] Arria Perreault: a. CDS Budget
[12:49] Fern Leissa: brb
[12:49] Arria Perreault: you have the floor Tor
[12:50] Tor Karlsvalt: ok thank you
[12:50] Arria Perreault: the RA members can ask questions
[12:50] Tor Karlsvalt: just a few points
[12:50] Tor Karlsvalt: I included the data from the May financials.
[12:50] Tor Karlsvalt: Seems may was a good month.
[12:51] Tor Karlsvalt: so when I factor the income for May and use the average income in the current budget we actually have a surplus.
[12:51] Tor Karlsvalt: Several amedment have been suggested
[12:52] Tor Karlsvalt: one was an increase in the amount put tward NG projects.
[12:52] Tor Karlsvalt: that i think it was suggested by Rosie to have 1500 per month set aside for this
[12:52] Tor Karlsvalt: this is nly to facilitate startup costs associated with projects.
[12:53] Tor Karlsvalt: Talk of tier reform would change things.
[12:53] Tor Karlsvalt: I am not opposed to tier reform.
[12:53] Tor Karlsvalt: I think our tier is a bit higher than most other estates.
[12:53] Tor Karlsvalt: I am not sure that is the main reason we have experienced a decline in residents.
[12:54] Tor Karlsvalt: I make note of some reasons on the second page of the budjet
[12:54] Tor Karlsvalt: in the notes.
[12:54] Tor Karlsvalt: done
[12:54] Pip Torok is sure that it is NOT the reason for the decline
[12:55] Tor Karlsvalt: 
alas I agree Pip
[12:55] Tor Karlsvalt: a number of reasons are given
[12:55] Tor Karlsvalt: sometimes tho they mask the real reason.
[12:55] Tor Karlsvalt: but i try to take ppls at their word.
[12:56] Fern Leissa: b
[12:56] Tor Karlsvalt: wb Fern
[12:57] Arria Perreault: other remarks , Tor?
[12:57] Tor Karlsvalt: um, no, just if I have questions.
[12:57] Arria Perreault: ok
[12:57] Arria Perreault: who wants to ask questions to Tor?
[12:58] Pip Torok: yes ... cd the way forward be to liaise directly with Rosie ?
[12:58] Tor Karlsvalt: Um not sure what you mean, Pip, but let me venture
[12:58] Fern Leissa: No questions. I would also like to see the amt of monies for NG projects increased to 1500 per mo
[12:59] Pip Torok: me too
[12:59] Fern Leissa: Otherwise.. I have looked at the Chancellor's budget and am in agreement
[12:59] Tor Karlsvalt: I remember last term we had a NG project that required a delay only for lack of a few funds.
[12:59] Arria Perreault: which project?
[13:00] Tor Karlsvalt: the intent for the item in the budget was to rectify the need to ask RA for a budget change for evey project. Also, I anticipated her disire to get the NG moving on sim upgrades which had also been a desire of mine from even my first election.
[13:01] Arria Perreault: I have a question/remark
[13:01] Tor Karlsvalt: Arria, that would be the project to close the sides of AM and NFS on the East side.
[13:01] Tor Karlsvalt: The project was successful in part.
[13:02] Arria Perreault: it's about Radio Riel. I am not the only to have question about that. Rosie talked also about that. I don't want to change the budget only about that. But ...
[13:02] Tor Karlsvalt: Rosie did a wonderful job, but it seems the mega prims used don't rezz when looking at them from Al Garnata
[13:02] Tor Karlsvalt: Well Radio Riel was an item begun by Sonja the prior chancellor
[13:03] Tor Karlsvalt: I continued it and gave RR the PSA.
[13:03] Arria Perreault: I think we need advertising for our community. I have the following suggestion: keep this 5000 L$ in advertising/marketing budget and look what is the best way to use them
[13:03] Arria Perreault: SL ads are very rewarding
[13:04] Arria Perreault: especially when they are connected with little attractions like a treasure hunt
[13:04] Arria Perreault: it's my exprience in the Monastery
[13:04] Tor Karlsvalt: Yes, I recall that Rosie mentioned posting ads on our public buildings.
[13:04] Tor Karlsvalt: they do not cost much
[13:04] Arria Perreault: yes and it works very well
[13:04] Fern Leissa: Sonja, now that we've had some time advertising w/ Radio Riel.. what do you think? Should we continue to invest there
[13:05] Arria Perreault: do you have something for that in your budget?
[13:05] Tor Karlsvalt: we do but i thin it is 2000 a month
[13:05] Arria Perreault: I see: 2000 L$
[13:05] Sonja Strom: I believe it is a good choice for the CDS to continue to support Radio Riel.
[13:05] Pip Torok agrees
[13:06] Arria Perreault: ok
[13:06] Arria Perreault: other questions?
[13:06] Fern Leissa: Ok. Agree maybe we should give Radio Riel another year
[13:06] Pip Torok: none from me
[13:06] Fern Leissa: Do we want to go ahead and add a little more to the advertising budget for other options?
[13:06] Tor Karlsvalt: well i might add with regard to RR
[13:07] Tor Karlsvalt: one thing it does do is puts us out with other very active SL groups.
[13:07] Arria Perreault: Fern, we have to accept the budget as it is or ask Tor to change it for next time
[13:07] Tor Karlsvalt: we look like we support the larger SL
[13:07] Arria Perreault: but we have only one month since it's publication to accept it
[13:08] Tor Karlsvalt: esentially I hink we buy some goodwill with people
[13:08] Fern Leissa: Would we be accepting w/o the additions to NG funds?
[13:08] Arria Perreault: with
[13:08] Tor Karlsvalt: you can vote on that
[13:08] Sonja Strom: I agree with Tor on this, with regard to our support of Radio Riel.
[13:08] Tor Karlsvalt: i have 14 days to accept a revised budget
[13:08] Fern Leissa: Ok. Than I'm fine with the budge
[13:08] Arria Perreault: Tor has amended the budget based on our remarks in the forum (which is a good process)
[13:09] Fern Leissa: *budget
[13:09] Tor Karlsvalt: should I increase the amount for NG projects.
[13:09] Tor Karlsvalt: I think Rosie had 1500 per month.
[13:09] Pip Torok: im fine with the budget too
[13:09] GreyEagle Tigerfish is Online
[13:10] Fern Leissa: I agree w/ 1500 per month Tor. Is that not in the budget now?
[13:10] Arria Perreault: Tor, it's up to you. If you say now that you put 1500 Là, we vote with 1500
[13:10] Tor Karlsvalt: I have to add, I don't think anything is set in stone. We can change things as necessary. I will accept the 1500 for the NG
[13:10] Arria Perreault: thank you
[13:10] Tor Karlsvalt: naturally any hughe expenditures would have to come to RA
[13:11] Arria Perreault: of course
[13:11] Pip Torok: in that case I move that the Budget be accepted
[13:11] Arria Perreault: other questions?
[13:11] Fern Leissa: seconded
[13:11] Arria Perreault: we can vote
[13:11] Pip Torok: aye
[13:11] Arria Perreault: RA members who accept the budget, please say aye
[13:11] Fern Leissa: aye
[13:12] Sonja Strom: aye
[13:12] Arria Perreault: aye
[13:12] Arria Perreault: Rosie has still a 7-day vote, but the budget is accepted
[13:12] Tor Karlsvalt: ok
[13:12] Arria Perreault: thank you very much Tor
[13:12] Fern Leissa:
[13:13] Tor Karlsvalt: thank you Arria and RA.
[13:13] Tor Karlsvalt: I hope we have a successful term for all.
[13:13] Arria Perreault: now CDS can spend money based on this budget
[13:13] Tor Karlsvalt:
[13:13] Fern Leissa:
[13:14] Arria Perreault: and you are welcome with special projects outside this budget
[13:14] Tor Karlsvalt: i will post it to the forum. I think I can as a pdf
[13:14] Arria Perreault: it would be good
[13:15] Arria Perreault: I propose we continue our program
[13:15] Arria Perreault: new items
[13:16] Arria Perreault: before we ake specific points, I have a general remark
[13:16] Arria Perreault: we have talked about our priorities. now we have to take care we do everything in order to reach some results.
[13:17] Arria Perreault: in the past, the RA had commissions
[13:17] Arria Perreault: I suggest that every RA member take one of these priorities
[13:17] Anna Toussaint is Online
[13:18] Arria Perreault: you can create a commission or launch a debate in the forum based on a proposal
[13:18] Arria Perreault: it's important that citizen can participate
[13:19] Arria Perreault: there are also some topics that are already discussed in the forum. in this case, it's your role to facilitate that this topics are discussed in the RA
[13:20] Arria Perreault: this process is not so heavy as commission for everything, but we have to make sure that we manage our different priorities
[13:20] Arria Perreault: do you think we can work so?
[13:20] Fern Leissa: Ok. I'd very much like to address tier policy. I could get together with Trebor. I think we are close on at least being able to vote yes or no
[13:20] Arria Perreault: yes, I think it's important we take this point quickly
[13:20] Pip Torok: i agree for the simple (and grim) reason that there are so few of us
[13:21] Fern Leissa: And this is not on the list of new items but I would also like to bring the covenant rewrite to a vote
[13:21] Arria Perreault: do you agree that Fern is in charge of the tier question?
[13:21] Pip Torok: yes
[13:22] Arria Perreault: I agree too
[13:23] Arria Perreault: we have the following other priorities: sims upgrade, sims animation, marketing (increase the number of citizen)
[13:23] Pip Torok: and wd also like to bring the covenant rewrite to a vote
[13:23] Arria Perreault: you're right Pip
[13:23] Fern Leissa: thank yu Pip
[13:23] Arria Perreault: Fern, is it ready to vote?
[13:23] Arria Perreault: the convenant?
[13:24] Fern Leissa: I can do a final rewrite and present next session
[13:24] Arria Perreault: it would be great ㋡
[13:24] Fern Leissa: We have had lots and lots of meetings and forum discussion
[13:24] Arria Perreault: I suggest you paste again the convenant in the forums before we vote it
[13:24] Pip Torok: a shame we cdnt have voted it thru at this meeting
[13:25] Fern Leissa: I will do that. Good idea
[13:25] Arria Perreault: we can vote in one week
[13:25] Fern Leissa: ooh. One week??? Next week is July 4th holiday in US
[13:25] Arria Perreault: who wants to be in charge of sims upgrade?
[13:26] Pip Torok: it wd make sense that Rosie is the one ...
[13:26] Arria Perreault: oh! should we postpone the RA meeting and make it the week after?
[13:26] Fern Leissa: Agree
[13:26] Arria Perreault: do you agree that Rosie is in charge of sims upgrade?
[13:26] Fern Leissa: Yeah. I think so Arria. I don' think I'll be in town that weekend
[13:27] Fern Leissa: I do... if she's willing
[13:27] Arria Perreault: ok
[13:27] Pip Torok: yes, with her consent of course
[13:27] Arria Perreault: of course
[13:27] Arria Perreault: we still have sim animation and marketing (how to attract new citizen)
[13:28] Arria Perreault: Sonja, Pip?
[13:28] Pip Torok: if "marketing" means recruitment of new members then put me down for "marketing"
[13:28] Sonja Strom: For me it is ok.
[13:28] Arria Perreault: great, thank you Pip
[13:28] Fern Leissa: Good. I support Pip
[13:28] Arria Perreault: Sonja, are you willing for the animations of the sims?
[13:29] Sonja Strom: Oh, sorry, I don't want another job, hehe
[13:29] Arria Perreault: right, you are already RA Archivist
[13:29] Arria Perreault: I can do it, if you agree
[13:29] Sonja Strom: yes, true
[13:29] Sonja Strom: I would be happy for Arria to do it.
[13:29] Fern Leissa: I agree Arria. That would be great
[13:29] Pip Torok: cd you please do it Arria?
[13:30] Arria Perreault: good, I will do it
[13:30] Fern Leissa:
[13:30] Arria Perreault: there are only too points of the agenda I would like to take today
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[13:30] Arria Perreault: sims update and what I have called "New guild"
[13:31] Arria Perreault: the rest we have to make next time
[13:31] Arria Perreault: sims update
[13:31] Pip Torok: in that case i need to excuase myself Mme LRA ... the poetry on sunday awaits
[13:31] Arria Perreault: we canpostpone the point
[13:31] Fern Leissa: ah Pip. ... bye
[13:31] Tor Karlsvalt: ok pip
[13:31] Tor Karlsvalt: see you soon
[13:32] Arria Perreault: do you want to postpone this point?
[13:32] Pip Torok: see you soon i hope! 
[13:32] Fern Leissa: up to you Madame LRA
[13:32] Arria Perreault: I prefer to discuss with more poeple
[13:33] Arria Perreault: I move to table this point to the next meeting
[13:33] Fern Leissa: kk
[13:33] Arria Perreault: Sonja, do you agree?
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[13:34] Arria Perreault: she should be away
[13:34] Sonja Strom: yes, I agree
[13:35] Arria Perreault: ok. I will take this last point: New Guild
[13:35] Arria Perreault: today the New Guild has elected a new Secretary: Rosie
[13:36] Arria Perreault: I am sure that Rosie will be a dynamic Secretary of the Guild
[13:36] Arria Perreault: of course the New Guild was a bit sleepy since a while
[13:36] Arria Perreault: our newest citizen have never see the New Guild very active
[13:37] Arria Perreault: but the New Guild and especially Moon Adamant have accomplished a lot for our community
[13:38] Arria Perreault: Colonia Nova, Alpine Meadow, Locus Amoenus and also to facilitate the launch of the Monastery sim
[13:39] Arria Perreault: now Moon has stopped her activities as Secretary of the New Guild, we should find a way to honor her activities for our community and also all what the New Guild has made in the past
[13:40] Tor Karlsvalt nods
[13:40] Fern Leissa: brb
[13:41] Tor Karlsvalt: ♫~~♫~~APPLAUSE~~♫~~♫
[13:41] Arria Perreault: there are several ways to honor people who have contribute to our community
[13:41] Arria Perreault: I think we should thank her personnally for her contributions
[13:43] Arria Perreault: can we organize a little event (maybe with a party) to thank her?
[13:43] Tor Karlsvalt: Hear hear
[13:43] Sonja Strom: Do we know what she would like the most?
[13:43] Tor Karlsvalt: I agree Arria, thank you for suggesting it.
[13:43] Sonja Strom: But a party sounds good
[13:43] Tor Karlsvalt: i can find out sonja
[13:43] Arria Perreault: I know that she like parties
[13:44] Tor Karlsvalt: can I make a suggestion?
[13:44] Arria Perreault: yes, Tor
[13:44] Sonja Strom: Sounds even better then
[13:44] Tor Karlsvalt: It is common for most governments to have some award or acknoledgement
[13:44] Tor Karlsvalt: perhaps an Order of Anzere
[13:44] Tor Karlsvalt: or some other title
[13:44] Arria Perreault: good idea
[13:45] Tor Karlsvalt: Moon could be the first inductee
[13:45] Arria Perreault: but we need a ceremony for that?
[13:45] Tor Karlsvalt: Then name of course it open
[13:45] Tor Karlsvalt: but I thought it would be a nice gesture to the original sim
[13:45] Tor Karlsvalt: yes
[13:45] Tor Karlsvalt: possible
[13:46] Tor Karlsvalt: possibly
[13:46] Arria Perreault: and we need someone to creat a medal? Rosie?
[13:46] Tor Karlsvalt: eys
[13:46] Tor Karlsvalt: well she makes crowns and such
[13:46] Arria Perreault: yes, I know
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[13:47] Arria Perreault: Sonja, Fern do you agree with this idea?
[13:47] Tor Karlsvalt: it would be nice if the RA voted a resolution maybe
[13:47] Arria Perreault: yes, we have to
[13:47] Tor Karlsvalt: to create the award.
[13:48] Arria Perreault: I will prepare a resolution for next time
[13:48] Fern Leissa: yes I agree with the party and with the idea of an award
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[13:48] Fern Leissa: Order of Anzere sounds perfect
[13:48] Arria Perreault: we look since years something to honor poeple
[13:48] Arria Perreault: yes, I like the name
[13:49] Sonja Strom: Me too.
[13:49] Arria Perreault: I suggest that we prepare this resolution for next meeting (11 July)
[13:49] Tor Karlsvalt:
[13:49] Arria Perreault: the ceremony could be at the opening of Oktober fest
[13:49] Tor Karlsvalt: yes, that would be very nice
[13:49] Fern Leissa: That's a good idea
[13:50] Sonja Strom: Yes, good idea
[13:50] Arria Perreault: great
[13:50] Tor Karlsvalt: esp since Oktoberfest is also our anniversary celebration
[13:50] Arria Perreault: I propose we adjourn now and we go to listen some poetry
[13:50] Fern Leissa:
[13:50] Tor Karlsvalt: very fitting
[13:50] Arria Perreault: ok for adjournment?
[13:51] Fern Leissa: second
[13:51] Arria Perreault: aye
[13:51] Sonja Strom: aye
[13:51] Fern Leissa: aye
[13:51] Arria Perreault: thank you for the constructive meeting
[13:51] Tor Karlsvalt: woot
[13:51] Sonja Strom: Thank you, Arria, and everyone!
[13:51] Sonja Strom: ☆´ Applause! `☆
[13:51] Fern Leissa: Yes...)))
