To the critics of my build on P.19

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To the critics of my build on P.19

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Dear Friends,

It has come to my attention that some of you object to my build on aesthetic grounds. First off, let me make clear that I am accountable to the chancellor under the covenant, and my build is compliant. Next, let me explain a some other things that will help you understand why the build looks as it does and to what degree it can change.
My build on P.19 is home to Galerie 17, and is a working for profit art gallery and event venue. Given its function and location is has to meet a certain set of criteria.
1. It has to comply with the covenant
2. I has to give enough wall space on every floor to display a dozen large images
3. It has to provide uninterrupted lines of sight across an entire floor. This is important for viewing art and even more important for holding events.
4. It has to produce enough revenue to pay for the tier or be only minimally supplemented. I do not use RL money, and what I spend In SL I have to earn here.
5. Prim consumption of the build plus furnishings has to leave about 80 prims free for exhibitors and event related objects. At this point I cannot justify the expense of extra prims.
6. The gallery is already functioning. That means I will have prims I do not own in the build at all times, until I chose to close venue for a period of at least 2 weeks. Having objects of others in the build means that substantial changes are no longer possible. Of course closing the venue this comes at a price too, and disrupts my relationships with the artists exhibiting if not carefully planned. I will consider a closure for revisions in early August.
7. I run a gallery and a magazine, and that means the effort I can put towards revising the build is limited.

So, within these parameters I can make changes that are minimally invasive and do not cost more than a few lindens plus maybe an hour of my time. I hope you understand the cornerstones of my presence in Locus Aemoneus. If you have suggestions that can work within the framework outlined above, I will be happy to listen and possibly act on them. However, other than compliance with the covenant, I have final say what will be done with my build.

Best regards,

Deningun Parte.

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Deningun Parte,

Thank you for addressing this issue in the forums and explaining to your felllow citizens why your build is the way it is. The beauty of this build is clearly inside, with the interior of the build itself along with the absolutly beautiful art you have exhibited. I enjoyed attending your opening and was impressed at the number of non-citizens of the CDS who were in attendance. Let me know if you are going to be hosting any other events in the gallery and if you need any assistance from the government.

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Trebor Warcliffe

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Thanks for the explanation !

Also realize that the people who post of the forums do not represent a majority opinion of those in CDS !

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As the place is themed, the first reason to choose for this place is because one feels attracted to the theme and will try to adapt to it not just by merely using textures. The box is very unroman and I was really surprised to hear the building was approved of... The convenant is there to protect the community from buildings that do not blend in their environment, especially outside... The inside is in fact personal use not the other way around and being made subservient to the commercial goal of the builing. It still should blend in the environment.
One could use a texture of a roman raping or slaughtering his slave or you think of any example. This would be very roman but not fitting in the enviroment.
So my reason for choosing Locus Amoenus was the admosphere not any commercial reason. I spent money on buying and the rent and next being confronted a few days after I settled with a warehouse like building with the only roman touch being the textures. I talked to my new neighbour trying to influence her oppinion but the only reaction I got was, that I was not making friends... Although she is still in my friendlist...

Now I have to conclude Locus Amoenus disappointed me and that I wasted my money on the land. So it must be me being wrong and expecting the wrong things from a themed place. My place is for sale till the end of this month and when as I will not pay my next tier, I presume the land will be lost after that date.

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IngridManen wrote:

As the place is themed, the first reason to choose for this place is because one feels attracted to the theme and will try to adapt to it not just by merely using textures. The box is very unroman and I was really surprised to hear the building was approved of... The convenant is there to protect the community from buildings that do not blend in their environment, especially outside... The inside is in fact personal use not the other way around and being made subservient to the commercial goal of the builing. It still should blend in the environment.
One could use a texture of a roman raping or slaughtering his slave or you think of any example. This would be very roman but not fitting in the enviroment.
So my reason for choosing Locus Amoenus was the admosphere not any commercial reason. I spent money on buying and the rent and next being confronted a few days after I settled with a warehouse like building with the only roman touch being the textures. I talked to my new neighbour trying to influence her oppinion but the only reaction I got was, that I was not making friends... Although she is still in my friendlist...

Now I have to conclude Locus Amoenus disappointed me and that I wasted my money on the land. So it must be me being wrong and expecting the wrong things from a themed place. My place is for sale till the end of this month and when as I will not pay my next tier, I presume the land will be lost after that date.

How disappointing that one build you don't like will drive you from the community (And I thought comparing the build you didn't like to a texture of rape and pillaging was in poor taste) - everyone has their limits, I suppose. I haven't seen the building myself (or if I had ... it did not register), but please do consider you may be throwing membership in a whole community away over what amounts to a squabble with a neighbor.

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Personally I thought that Ingrid's build was completely out of character with the theme of the sim - although I did find it interesting. It was not however in the style of a classic roman building, or ruin which it was closer to, so I think it shows how much not only beauty, but detail and theme are sometimes in the eye of the beholder.

In my eyes the Gallerie 17 fits in okay, although I agree that it is mostly a box with textures, and to me it looks like something from a modern mall rather than ancient Rome. *BUT* when you look around the Roman themed sims in CDS there are many many buildings that have aspects to them that are not ancient Roman - such as glass windows. Many of these buildings are more 16th to 18th century.

I think that if someone quits the group and the sims so quickly there was very little real interest in being there in the first place, which is too bad.

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I did notice that after deleting your build (realized it was brick floor with brick placards across the floor) you put up a "for sale" sign on the property, given that that is a covenant violation in and of itself, I am not sure of your complaint. Saw the neighbor across the way as well, and didn't see the big issue. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Good luck in further experiments in SL ... it is a pity you never really gave the community a chance.

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Reminds me of when I put a fairly nice sculpted cave on my (outside the city, in the skybox region with a minimal covenant restriction) land. I know i've mentioned it before, but I was polite and moved it into the sky previously; I think next time I'll follow Deningun's example just to be onery. :)

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Your famous cave is in the sky, Aliasi? :(
I was looking forward to see it, but i keep away from skybuilds if not invited as a principle...

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Re: To the critics of my build on P.19

Post by Aliasi Stonebender »

A (very) late reply, but you know how one can miss things.

I'm actually using the 'Glass Cloister' from Summer Seale currently, but by no means should one consider my build off limits. I keep a door at ground level for just that reason - if I don't want visitors, it'll be locked. :)

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