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The following is posted on the Scientific Council's Page.

Election For the 17th RA, 1 June to 30 Nov., 2012
by Soro Dagostino » Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:55 pm

To All Citizens of CDS . . .

This is the Official Notice by the Dean of the Scientific Council of the important dates for the Election of the 17th Representative Assembly, with a term of June 1, 2012 to November 30, 2012.

1. Dean reminds citizens of key dates (suggested) 1 April 2012 (My apologies for the day of delay, I was ill over the weekend, and had difficulty typing)
2. Qualification date for citizenship and candidacy is 14 April 2012
3. Notice to Dean of candidacy by 21 April 2012
4. Campaign officially starts 5 May 2012
6. Polls Open 12 to 19 May 2012
7. Inaugural Meeting (to select LRA) 26 May 2012

Best regards to all

Soro Dagostino, Dean of the Scientific Council.

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Your census taker is going to be very unhappy very quickly about this ...

Please compare these dates with those given here:

http://forums.slcds.info/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3742

http://forums.slcds.info/viewtopic.php? ... =60#p19565

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Those dates seem different from the ones the SC posted previously.

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These were taken from the transcript of the SC Meeting, March 11, 2012. I have had no notice that the dates worked out at the SC Meeting were incorrect. There were changes from earlier time limits that were posted, but to the best of my memory, the transcript states the dates agreed to by the SC. If they are wrong, then let me get the SC to modify the dates.

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Soro and to all other concerned parties,

After reading the transcript of the March 11th meeting I see the post made by Delia as just that, a post.

[10:16] Pip Torok wd really lke to know the deadline
[10:16] Callipygian Christensen: It's one of the posted dates Pip!
[10:16] DeliaLake Pinion: CDS Election Cycle - Future Key Dates

17th Representative Assembly - 1 June to 30 November 2012
Dean reminds citizens of key dates (suggested) 1 April 2012
Qualification date for citizenship and candidacy 14 April 2012
Notice to Dean (suggested) 21 April 2012
Campaign officially starts 5 May 2012
Polls Open 12 to 19 May 2012
Inaugural Meeting (to select LRA) 26 May 2012

As Chancellor I do not view that post as an official announcement of the correct dates, this was most likely information gathered at an earlier date before the official dates were announced by SC Member Callipygian Christensen on February 7th, 2012 in the forums under Scientific Council Announcements titled Official dates of importance to the election of the 17th RAand later confirmed by Patroklus Murakami, RA member and Head of the Citizenship Committee on March 19th.

The SC was asked to specify the dates relevant to the upcoming election of the 17th RA.

In this post, 'qualification deadline' means the date an avatar must be a full citizen in good standing. A full citizen in good standing is one who has no arrears in tier on the date of the census, whether this tier is on land the citizen owns, or tier paid to qualify as a citizen through any other method permitted by law.

Official Dates for the election of 17th Representative Assembly - 1 June to 30 November 2012
Dean of SC notifies citizens of key dates : March 31 (Forum posting and inworld group notice)
Qualification deadline to run for office : 12 noon SLT April 3 (census generated on this date by Sudane)
Qualification deadline for right to vote: 12 noon SLT April 13 (census generated on this date by Sudane)
Number of RA seats announced: April 14 (Forum posting and inworld group notice)
Deadline for declaration to run: 12 noon SLT May 2
Dean posts official list of candidates: May 4 (Forum posting and inworld group notice)
Campaign officially starts: May 5
Polls open : 12 noon SLT May 12
Polls close: 12 noon SLT May 19
Dean of SC announces names of the new RA when received (Forum posting and inworld group notice)
Inaugural RA Meeting (LRA selection) 26 May 2012

In addition, at the request of the RA, the Dean of the SC will post declarations of candidacy using in-world group notices as they are received. The Dean, or designated members of the SC, will also post periodic reminders by inworld group notices, encouraging citizens to participate in government by standing for election and include the number of candidates currently declared and the number of RA seats available.

As Chancellor I don't want the upcoming election to turn into the fiasco the 16th terms elections turned into. I beg of you to please consult with your fellow SC members as soon as possible. I as Assistant Treasurer will be performing a census on 04/03/2012 as that has been common knowledge since February 7th.

I also ask the Scientific Council and specifically the Dean to insure the citizens of the CDS have a pro-active campaign to assist them in making their decisions when the polls open. A debate should be scheduled for the Chancellor candidates and a separate debate should be scheduled for the Representative Assembly candidates. I'd also like to see these debates advertised on the Second Life event calendar to help spread the word about the CDS and what we are about.

Thank you,

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Patroklus Murakami wrote:

Those dates seem different from the ones the SC posted previously.

This is why we desperately need the Citizenship clarified, as Pat attempted to do through legislation proposed this term. Unfortunately, it required more than 60% of the RA to support it, and only 60% did so. I hope that the composition of the RA next term will be different such that this critical matter can be dealt with in a way that prevents the confusion we had in the last election and that we might well have again in this one.

To that end, and because we have not yet completely our reform of the SC, I will run again for the RA. I will inform the Dean of the SC of this intention as well.

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This is why we desperately need the Citizenship clarified, as Pat attempted to do through legislation proposed this term. Unfortunately, it required more than 60% of the RA to support it, and only 60% did so. I hope that the composition of the RA next term will be different such that this critical matter can be dealt with in a way that prevents the confusion we had in the last election and that we might well have again in this one.

Beathan please don't take this the wrong way but you drive people absolutley nuts when you make a posting without doing the proper research. Here is the summary posted on the forums by Pat on March 18th.

Summary

1. The RA voted to reform CDS Citizenship rules following the Citizenship Transparency Commission. The Bill, as passed, is here. Briefly, 'group', 'sponsor' and 'partner' citizenship are abolished and citizenship derives from land ownership (at least one plot) and being current in tier payments (for at least one plot). Anyone affected by this change is encouraged to purchase one of the many lots for sale in the CDS to maintain their citizenship.Ayes - Anna, Patroklus, Rosie, Shep. Beathan has a 7-day vote.

Bill #1: Citizenship Establishment

Preamble

CDSL 13-10, Citizenship Bill, attempted to define more precisely the link between citizenship and land established as a fundamental principle in the Constitution of the Confederation of Democratic Simulators (CDS) in its Article VI - Citizenship, by establishing guidelines on how to incorporate the citizenship grant made to citizens who used previous laws to become citizens without a direct relationship with land ownership.

However, in subsequent events, it was made clear that the extraordinary amount of legislation covering all possible cases for citizenship complicated the establishment of an official List of Citizens as per the requirements of NL 5-15, Citizen Information Act. As a result, this list is rarely updated and requires individual validation of each and every member on the list.

Therefore, this bill provides a new and easier method to validate citizenship by keeping to the guidelines set forth in the Constitution.

1. "Granting title to land" is henceforward defined as being listed as the sole proprietor of a parcel of land, as shown by the About Land tool (or whatever technological feature of the official Second Life Viewer shows the ownership of a parcel).

2. Citizens shall be entitled to vote in CDS elections and/or stand for office if, on the date set by the Scientific Council in accordance with the Constitution for this purpose, they own at least one parcel of land and are current in their tier payments for at least one parcel. A citizen shall be an individual avatar whose name appears on both the Hippo list as being current in the tier payments and on a list of current parcel owners.

3. Private land can optionally be set (but not deeded) to any group, but that does not entitle any member of the group a grant to the title of the land. Mistakenly deeded land should be reverted, optionally with the assistance from the Estate Owner or any similar role with the appropriate land management powers.

4. Public land, or land owned by organisations incorporated in the CDS, can be deeded to a group. As per the previous article, this does not grant members of the group any title to the land.

5. "Sponsored locations" in the terms previously defined under CDSL 13-10 are abolished. Land set or deeded to groups under the provision of CDSL 13-10 will revert to public land status and claimed by the appropriate land management group set by Government for the region.

6. Citizenship derived solely through membership of a group or through being the partner of a CDS citizen is hereby abolished.

7. Membership in any "waiting list" for acquisition of a first parcel in the CDS, to be sold by Government as soon as new regions or parcels are opened for sale, does not confer citizenship status to those members, since it does not effectively confer grant title to land.

8. Any citizen that loses their citizenship status due to the passage of this bill is encouraged to purchase a parcel of land in the CDS.
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Bill #2: Citizenship membership publication for election purposes

Preamble

It is the law of the CDS that citizens must hold the title to their land for more than 28 days, and have tier payed in full to qualify to vote or to run for office. However, due to the complexities of the electoral calendar, the validation of that requirement is unnecessarily complicated.

The Citizen List shall be the certified list of CDS citizens eligible to run for office or vote in CDS Elections. The Citizen List will be created in the following manner:

1. At 12 noon SLT on the dates designated by the Scientific Council, the Estate Manager or his or her designate, will generate both a Hippo list of tier payors and a Land Scanner list of parcel owners. They will then compare these two lists to determine that a given name appears on both lists, and that that given name is current in at least one parcel tier payment. The Estate Manager or his or her designate will use these lists to create one list of the citizens who are qualified to run for office or vote, the Citizen List. (In the event that the upgrade to the Land Scanner is not available in time for the generation of the Citizen List for the June 2012 elections, the Hippo List alone will be used).

2. Within 24 hours this List will be delivered to the Chancellor, who will publish the List on the CDS Forums, by notecard to the SL group 'CDS', by notecard available at the Praetorium and any other public location the Chancellor may choose, and on the CDS web portal.

3. Only those citizens whose names appear on the published Citizen List may run for office or vote in the CDS elections.

4. Any citizen may challenge the inclusion or omission of an avatar on the Citizen List by petitioning the Scientific Council. Any such petition challenging the Citizen List must be received by the Dean of the SC no later than midnight SLT, 21 days after that Citizen List is published. The SC will make every effort to resolve such challenges within 7 days, so that nominations and elections can proceed with an accurate Citizen List.

5. This bill revokes NL 5-17, Census Scheduling Act. The number of seats in the Representative Assembly shall be calculated on the day the Citizen List is published for the express purpose of determining citizen eligibility to vote.

6. This bill applies to all elections and by-elections of Government members, representatives, or any official polling act called by any of the Government Branches (such as referenda or public consultation) that may have legislative power.

7. This bill does not revoke any other right of citizens, specifically NL 5-21, Citizen Involvement Act, or any public contest without the force of legislative power, such as proposing a new theme for an upcoming region to be publicly opened, redesigning the CDS official presence, or similar non-legislative acts.

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Trebor,

Likewise.

I was referring to the Constitutional Amendment Pat proposed on citizenship dates (Feb 4) -- which was the discussion at hand in this thread -- which failed to pass despite a 60% in favor vote. I was not referring to the noncontroversial and largely procedural Acts that passed the RA on December 10.

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Beathan wrote:

I was referring to the Constitutional Amendment Pat proposed on citizenship dates (Feb 4) -- which was the discussion at hand in this thread -- which failed to pass despite a 60% in favor vote. I was not referring to the noncontroversial and largely procedural Acts that passed the RA on December 10.

I quote here the exact words of Pat's proposed Constitutional Amendment, discussed at the Feb 4 meeting:

I'd like to propose the following Constitutional Amendment to help ensure that we always hold elections for the Representative Assembly in future:

Add to Article I, Section 2 after "Any citizen who is eligible to vote, at the time of nomination, may become a candidate by declaring themselves by a message to the Dean of the Scientific Council, within the time set by the Scientific Council for such nominations." the following text:

"If there are fewer nominations than seats available when nominations close, the Dean will extend the time set for nominations by one week."
This will allow us to avoid the situation, as has occurred in our recent past, where too few candidates come forward and elections are not held.

Clearly, the subject of Pat's amendment was not issue of citizenship dates as they apply to the qualifications for office-holding and voting, but rather the narrow concern of addressing the situation where an insufficient number of candidates are available for existing RA seats. That narrower topic is NOT the subject of this thread, as you will note from the top.

The topic of the discussion in this thread is the disparity in announced dates for qualification as office-holder and as voter. Those dates were clearly announced by Calli and then later re-posted by Pat. Soro's recently posted dates differ from Calli's and Pat's. THAT is the subject of this post. There is no constitutional issue here. There is only the consistent promulgation of a clearly fair and universally agreed to law, which you too, Beathan, voted for.

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Sudane,

I stand corrected. I had remembered that the topic had two components -- each addressing the issues we had last election (both voter and candidate eligibility). I must have misremembered, given that voter eligibility was not an issue. That said, it was the only legislation that dealt with the timing issues involved in this thread. The other legislation dealt with creation of a Commission (not substantive), publication of the list (not substantive), and some substantial, but not radical, clarification of citizenship as a result of the change to the hippo system and the question of multiple parcel ownership and the different avenues to citizenship. This last Act was a very substantive and substantial Act, and was the result of hard work (which I applaud) by Pat, you, and others through the Commission -- but it did not involve the timing issues involved in this thread.

My point is that before he criticized me for not paying attention, Trebor would have been better to look at this last session of the RA to determine: 1. if there had been some proposed legislation regarding the pre-election timing issues involved in this thread and 2. if it failed with 60% of the vote as I said. If he had done so, he would have seen. as you have, that I was misremembering the details, but that I was speaking of something that happened and that is apropos to the timing election qualifications.

That said, I continue to hope that next session will see a renewal of Pat's proposal along with a similar Constitutional Amendment regarding citizenship itself. Creation of a Citizen Commission and mostly cosmetic clarifications involving the special case of group or related citizens does not really figure.

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