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- Administrative Business
-- Review and approve agenda (5 min.)
-- Speakers on today’s agenda items? (5 min)
- Citizen Concerns (5 min)
- RA Members’ Concerns (5 min)
- Old Business
- New Business
-- Discussion and review of Sim design proposals
- Commission Reports (5 min)
- Executive Report (10 min)
- General Announcements (5 min)
- Next RA Meeting? (5 min)
- Adjourn
Summary:
1. The RA agreed that new sim proposals should be published on the forums and distributed by notecard with discussion to continue on the forums.
Ayes - Beathan, Patroklus, Shep. Anna and Rosie have 7-days to cast their votes.
2. The RA asked the SC to rule on whether people who own land with a group title (and have not switched it to individual) should be allowed to vote in the coming elections. (The SC has agreed to discuss this at its meeting on 15 April).
Ayes - Beathan, Patroklus, Shep. Anna and Rose have 7-day votes.
3. The RA agreed to meet again at 9am SLT on Saturday 28 April in the Praetorium, Colonia Nova.
Last edited by Patroklus Murakami on Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:06 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Shep Titian: Ok well w have a quorum ... shall we begin Beathan Vale: yes Patroklus Murakami: yes lets Shep Titian: Have you all got a copy of the agenda Beathan Vale: yes Patroklus Murakami: i'll look at the forum post. the notecard giver has an old card in it Shep Titian: Good .. oh Daniel it should be said as you are new .. by participating here ,.. you automatically agree for your words to put on the forum Daniel Sosa: I agree Shep Titian: All aprove the agenda? Patroklus Murakami fails to find an agenda anywhere... Beathan Vale: The notecard I got says "April 14" Shep Titian: I say aye Beathan Vale: aye Shep Titian: Thats today's date Beathan Beathan Vale: yes, but it is giving old legislation -- and I don't know who has the sim proposal reports. Patroklus Murakami: thx daniel. yes, approve the agenda Shep Titian: bli hat's Anna Shep Titian: elieve Shep Titian: Sorry having trouble here Beathan Vale: OK -- well it's later in the agenda. hopefully she will be here by then Shep Titian: Yes Beathan Vale: I move we put off speakers on the sims until we have the proposals Shep Titian: I'm assuming Anna will be the speaker too Shep Titian: Ok Citizens concerns Shep Titian: Right ... RA members concerns? Daniel Sosa: I do not have any at this time but if the discussion that we wer having prior to the start of the meeting was to come up I would have a concnern Patroklus Murakami: none Daniel Sosa: about that being a private meeting Shep Titian: ou can comment on that Daniel Sosa: It was not in the meeting so would not make sense in the mintues Shep Titian: Yes it would .. under citizens concerns Beathan Vale: I have heard from one longtime citizen who missed paying her tier by one day (I think the candidacy tier -- not the voting tier); and have heard hearsay reports of a couple others. I just note that as a possible concern under our new voting timing procedures and that we may want to implement grace periods, although I am not sure that we should act on that now before we give the current rules a chance to work. Beathan Vale: Hi Fern Fern Leissa: Hi Beathan Patroklus Murakami: people were warned beathan. if they were not current in tier... tough Shep Titian: This is so near the election Beathan .. any grace time will give rise to a similar fiasco as last time I would have thought Beathan Vale: Due to sparse attendance, I move that we give late-arriving citizens a chance to express concerns if they have any Shep Titian: I agree Beathan Vale: I agree -- but it is something to note and consider next term if we find it is a real probleem Shep Titian: Hello Fern Fern Leissa: No immediate questions from me tx Fern Leissa: Hi Shep Beathan Vale: I don't want to change the rules this close to the election Patroklus Murakami: happy to be lenient about people who did not switch their land from group in time Beathan Vale: agree Shep Titian: Yes I'd go aLONG WITH THAT Shep Titian: sorry again Patroklus Murakami: i sent group notices to warn people to pay tier for both nomination qualification and voting Shep Titian: Do we have any old business? Shep Titian: Yes I saw those Pat .. thankls for doing it Beathan Vale: I know -- that was good and I thought it would be effective ... but some people may have missed it -- and I hate to see people lose voting rights on technicalities Shep Titian: As you know Beathan .. huge giant can of worms lol Patroklus Murakami: either we have rules. or we don't. i think we agree that we don't want to change them this close to an electio. i agree we should think about the impact for future elections Daniel Sosa: May I speak Shep Titian: If we are lax this time .. the same thing will happen again Shep Titian: Please do Daniel Daniel Sosa: I would recommend that the RA find out how many citizens were unable to vote based on the rule Daniel Sosa: and if it is a large percentage then that would be a reason to discuss and change the rule Beathan Vale: Daniel -- I'm not sure that there are any -- I've looked at the list -- I think a couple people may have missed the second deadline (candidacy) -- but this might not be a huge deal, although we might not have enough candidates and might lose at least one person who otherwise would have run ... Daniel Sosa: however I would not know what that percentage would be Patroklus Murakami: i can't go along with that daniel. if people failed to keep their tier current on one parcel they don't qualify as a citizen Shep Titian: We had utter confusion and cries of fixing at the last election Daniel Sosa: if voiting and peopple wanting to be involved in the demoacracy and the rules are preventing good people to participate then the rules definitely sholuld be reviewed Beathan Vale: I do think that the process was far more transparent under the new rules -- and that was a great improvement -- and a significant effort (by Sudane especially) which we should note with gratitude Shep Titian: Hence we changed the rules to be more transparent Patroklus Murakami: if people were ignorant of the rule change it's largely their fault. there was a debate about this for months. multiple forumthreads, inworld meetings and several group notices Shep Titian: The rules are preventing no one from taking part who is'nt up to date on tier payments Daniel Sosa: I stand corrected Shep Titian: Ok .. new business Shep Titian: From where I'm sitting the rest of this agenda is unworkable Beathan Vale: so it seems Patroklus Murakami: do we know how many sim design proposals there are? i've only seen one from beathan Shep Titian: How are we feeling on aborting? Beathan Vale: I move that sim proposals be published on the forums and by notecard distrubution and that we discuss them on the RA forums, allowing public input on the general forum Shep Titian: As far as I know Anna has been working on the criteria for tender Shep Titian: ]I second Beathan Shep Titian: Vote please Beathan Vale: aye Shep Titian: Aye Patroklus Murakami: aye Shep Titian: Good then that part is official;ly moved to forum Shep Titian: Seems we have no exec to report either Shep Titian: Ok .. next meeting date Patroklus Murakami: can we discuss the group citizens issue before we adjourn? Beathan Vale: When is the official date for sim consideration? the 28th? Shep Titian: 28th April at 9 am?? Beathan Vale: yes and yes Patroklus Murakami: i'm fine with that date and time Shep Titian: good .. lets hope that will be better attended Fern Leissa: Shep Titian: So datew and time set at 9 am on 28th April Patroklus Murakami: i move we ask the SC to rule on whether people who own land with a group title (and have not switched it to individual) should be allowed to vote in teh coming elections Beathan Vale: second Shep Titian: I think we should adjourn .. but make ourselves available for questions from the floor Shep Titian: So ayes for adjourn and date Shep Titian: Aye Beathan Vale: let's vote on Pat's motion first Patroklus Murakami: aye. i'll let soro know about our request for a ruling Shep Titian: Sorry Beathan Vale: aye and aye Patroklus Murakami: oh, i thought we had! Patroklus Murakami: but... aye and aye! Shep Titian: An aye for your propsal anyway Pat Shep Titian: Ok troops /.. done
1. The RA agreed that new sim proposals should be published on the forums and distributed by notecard with discussion to continue on the forums.
Ayes - Beathan, Patroklus, Shep. Anna and Rosie have 7-days to cast their votes.
The RFP for sim design proposals posted here http://forums.slcds.info/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3783 included:
4) Submissions will be made to each member of the Representative Assembly (RA), by notecard, accompanied by any supportive documentation or models.
I vote Aye to the motion with the understanding that it doesn't preclude the RFP submission procedures as outlined in the RFP posting.
2. The RA asked the SC to rule on whether people who own land with a group title (and have not switched it to individual) should be allowed to vote in the coming elections. (The SC has agreed to discuss this at its meeting on 15 April).
Ayes - Beathan, Patroklus, Shep. Anna and Rose have 7-day votes.
I vote Aye to the above motion.
3. The RA agreed to meet again at 9am SLT on Saturday 28 April in the Praetorium, Colonia Nova.
Sorry to have missed the meeting, I never did see an Agenda posted for it and I simply forgot it was happening until too late!
Rosie
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