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Virtual Governance: The TransAtlantic Union

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Hi all,

Some of you might remember a half-asleep group that I sometimes "revive" when something excites me, the Virtual Governance group. I still have some ideas left for discussions that I didn't manage to host, but I came up with a topic which might be interesting for us CDSers.

One of the things I always loved about our community is the rather well-balanced number of citizens on both sides of the Atlantic. Entering into our 10th year, it shows that we can go well beyond cultural differences and find common ground — and mostly, share a lot of experiences. I'm not ashamed to say that practically everything I learned from common law was thanks to the CDS :)

Now, apparently our world leaders are thinking along similar lines. Presidents Obama (US) and Barroso (EU) have announced a Free Trade Union between the US and te EU, negotiations starting in June and probably going to take about 2 years (which is not much, considering all that it entails!). I'm actually surprised that this bit of news didn't get much coverage, except for a few scattered articles and opinions on the day of the announcement (during the State of Union address). One US commentator went through the whole of Obama's speech, pretty much criticizing it all the way, but "forgot" to talk about the US-EU trade union! That's how little attention it deserved!

Both presidents also explained that it will be "more" than merely abolishing import taxes at customs. This has been in "secret" conversations for a year now, but it's clear that both partners in the future union wish to go beyond that, and include things like freedom of travel, residence, and work. In a sense, this would be similar to the status that countries like Switzerland, Norway and Iceland already have — their agreements with the EU already provide much more than merely "free trade". It's expected that the agreements with the US will be similar.

The possibilities are tremendous. But so are the obstacles. On the US side, we already know that farmers want free access to the EU market, and this means dropping the protectionism the EU has regarding agricultural produce, which will require dramatic changes. On the EU's side, they want to flood the US market with much cheaper BMWs, Mercedes, and Audis, which troubles the struggling car industry in the US, which has barely recovered from the serious blow, but was already on the right track. So things won't be easy. I think that 2 years is very optimistic, and very likely, it will be a step-by-step approach. It also raises some interesting questions about the UK: will they leave the EU and apply for the same "free trade" status as the US? Or will the US and the EU grow closer together — say, emitting a new currency, the eurodollar or something like that! — and leave the UK behind? All this is quite mind-boggling :) And, of course, what will China do? (since both presidents were quite clear that the major reason for the mega-trade-union was to keep the Chinese at bay)

So, I think I'm going to hold a discussion event on this, next Sunday, March 3rd, at 3 PM SLT.

Now all I need is a place :) I usually pick the Amphitheatre in Colonia Nova, since it's not overly laggy, and is one of the spots in the CDS where I can actually announce events through the Linden's system. But I see that the Amphitheatre has been the stage for a lot of activity lately, and is all set for the next round of events. So, I'm open to ideas. Where do you wish this to take place?

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What do you think about holding the event at the Thermae in Colonia Nova? It makes for a much more informal environment :-)

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Gwyneth, would you like to continue this events? Thermae is a very funny idea, I should not have burned all my bathsuits ;) And could you point me to the law dealing with the restrictions on event hosting again? The one bigger than my head? I am trying hard to find it atm. I am looking forward to see a thread dealing with event policy in general shortly btw and I place value on your input.

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I'd be interested in this discussion as well Gwyn, now that my SL time isn't being taken up 100% of the time by the Schloss. There might be some relevance to Canada there too.

I kinda like the idea of the Thermae and it would mean I'd have to go and buy a bathing-costume ;)

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I would like to attend this event and like Tan have burned my swimsuits :p

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The restriction on event hosting is a default designation by Linden Labs. One cannot host events except on one's own land or parcels designated as Hangout. The amphitheater is designated as a Hangout. There is a setting in Group Roles to allow for giving a Role permission to host on group land (no matter the designation) but the default setting is "off" and most people don't even know it is there or what the rules are (since they are Linden's rules and you have to be a bit motivated to figure them up, they are not an obvious plug-n-play type feature)

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Bagheera wrote:

The restriction on event hosting is a default designation by Linden Labs. One cannot host events except on one's own land or parcels designated as Hangout. The amphitheater is designated as a Hangout. There is a setting in Group Roles to allow for giving a Role permission to host on group land (no matter the designation) but the default setting is "off" and most people don't even know it is there or what the rules are (since they are Linden's rules and you have to be a bit motivated to figure them up, they are not an obvious plug-n-play type feature)

Actually you can host an event anywhere you want to, but the designations are important if you want to advertise them to all of SL; which is obviously quite important if you're looking to attract visitors.

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I checked the Landverwaltung. Razzy, Rain, Mikelo, Ranma, anti and Ulysse for exampe (I probably miss some citizens not even in the LV) lack permissions to advertise events held on common land via that Linden calendar page.
And yes, there is a well hidden sophisticated passage in our code of law about the role of the Chancellor, but after reading all the about 75 active paragraphs and wiping my tears away i am as wise as before...
Let me tell you, last time we tried to host a musician at the theatre the LL calendar did not allow us to post a second event on the same day and parcel, and they used Caps in red and threatened to ban us from the grid! Hehehe, i guess they are desperate with all the ads posted there for free and multiple times. The musician cancelled the event then.
Much left to learn for a little Avie wearing her first skin template atm :wink: let us see what Gwyneth has to say when she awakes from her beauty rest. Little deceleration can not harm.

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