Shep Titian: Ok ... calling the meeting to order
Shep Titian: We begin with the usual
Moonrise Azalee: Razzy laughs at pip
Moonrise Azalee: Razzy nods and listens
Shep Titian: Approve agenda ... any problems?
Pip Torok: none here
Bagheera Kristan: I am fine with it
Tanoujin Milestone: Agenda is fine to me
Moonrise Azalee: approved
Pip Torok: EXCEPT "CH" ???
Moonrise Azalee: (with me)
Bagheera Kristan: oh yes! that's right, what is CH?
Bagheera Kristan: convex hull?
Sudane Erato: Church
Tanoujin Milestone: Convex Hull, a prim saver
Pip Torok: ah!!!
Shep Titian: Sorry Convex Hull
Pip Torok: thus are acronyms given birth ...
Sudane Erato: 
Shep Titian: Lol
Bagheera Kristan: LOL!
Shep Titian: Ok
Shep Titian: Speakers .. only missing Tor for exec report
Shep Titian: Citizens concers??
Tanoujin Milestone: Since Ranma is not there I would like to adopt her motion
Tanoujin Milestone: on the Schloss topic
Shep Titian: Any problems?
Shep Titian: ok RA concerns? any ?
Bagheera Kristan: yes
Shep Titian: Bags
Bagheera Kristan: I had been talking with Tor about this, I wanted to fix the landing point for center of sim for LA and CN
Bagheera Kristan: I had given Tor information on how to do this but Sudane also needs to be in the discussion
Bagheera Kristan: also there is at least one public parcel in LA with a forced landing point which is detrimental to visitors
Shep Titian: Yes the CN one is a walk from the info centre
Bagheera Kristan: the goal is to keep people from landing in a bad spot if they tp in from the big map
Bagheera Kristan: CN lands in Arria's house, LA lands you underwater in the center of the river
Sudane Erato: good for mermaids
Bagheera Kristan: I had figured out solutions, but realized I needed to let people know what was going on - in LA, in the winter, you get stuck under the ice
Tor Karlsvalt: hi all, Sudane
Tanoujin Milestone: i encountered this, you are right, Bags
Shep Titian: Hi Tor
Pip Torok: yes .. otherwise itll give LA a bad name ...
Bagheera Kristan: so I just wanted to mention I had been paying attention to this and had thought of solutions, and wasnt' sure what I should do to get them implemented except talk to Tor, which I have done - hi Tor - and he and I agreed we needed Sudane's help to go further
Shep Titian: Who needs to change them?
Sudane Erato: if you need to (or Rudeen) to do something... np at all... just give instructions, since i'm not very knowledgeable about Landing Points
Bagheera Kristan: okay, thank you Sudane it requires a bit of reparceling
Bagheera Kristan: we can talk about it after, if that's alrigth with everyone
Sudane Erato: np, if necessary
Bagheera Kristan: okay, I'm done
Bagheera Kristan: thank you
Tor Karlsvalt: We need to create a small strip of a parcel to connect the center cooridnate to say the meeting circle.
Shep Titian: Thanks Bags
Tor Karlsvalt: or maybe an Agora
Shep Titian: that would be off putting
Shep Titian: Ok next
Shep Titian: The new Schloss building
Bagheera Kristan: lovely job on the build !
Sudane Erato: ty
Shep Titian: I hope most have bneen to see it .. its coming on a treat
Moonrise Azalee: I love it. Very awesome
Tor Karlsvalt: yes! great job
Pip Torok: did sudane pick up on the suggestion for tapestries?
Callipygian Christensen: Callipygian Christensen raises her hand
Shep Titian: Calli
Sudane Erato: we are experimenting with tapestries, yes
Pip Torok: tks ..
Tanoujin MilestoneTanoujin Milestone rises hand
Callipygian Christensen: The schloss build does look great, but one question re - the proposal (motion?) Ranma posted
Shep Titian: After Calli Tan
Tanoujin Milestone: sure
Shep Titian: I have'nt pocked that up Calli
Callipygian Christensen: It speaks of approving the build at the appropriate time, but I thought approval is something planned for before themove?
Callipygian Christensen: because once the old schloss goes, it's gone I think - no putting it back
Tanoujin Milestone: Tanoujin Milestone bites her lips
Shep Titian: No it was always stated it could'nt be finished off site
Sudane Erato: the original proposal suggested that in order to do the move, the RA and Chancellor would approve the build in its unfinished state
Sudane Erato: of course, more finishing will be needed
Sudane Erato: but
Callipygian Christensen: Yes , I know Shep..but wasnt the idea that people basically approve it in progress then move it for the final pieces?
Sudane Erato: you can't change your mind after the old one is removed
Callipygian Christensen: yes, what Sudane said
Tor Karlsvalt: Yes, the old schloss will be gone forever.
Tor Karlsvalt: We have saved only small parts of it.
Bagheera Kristan: raises hand
Shep Titian: Yes .. but as buildings are essentially under exec decisions RA is really only a tiken in this
Shep Titian: Tan
Tanoujin Milestone: fine. Ranma suggested on the forums we give the replacement a nod - may I post it here in chat for discussion
Tanoujin Milestone: ?
Shep Titian: Yes go ahead
Tanoujin Milestone: Subject to the approval of the CDS Chancellor the old build in Neufreistadt know as "Schloss" be removed and replaced by Rosie Gray and Sudane Erato. Understanding the new Schloss needs to be moved to its final site before being finished. Approval of the final build would be made at the correct time. The Representational Assembly commends the selfless acts of Rosie Gray and Sudane Erato in making this project possible.
Shep Titian: Bags
Bagheera Kristan: I would like to propose that - unless this causes a hardship on Sudane, who I know has donated the building site...
Bagheera Kristan: that we delay the move at least another week and/or - the underlying reason - there was talk of creating a photographic or machinanime of the original and ahs that happened yet?
Pip Torok: I propose a small drafting amendment : representatives' instead of Representational ...
Bagheera Kristan: are people satisfied they have preserved the memory enough? do they need more time?
Shep Titian: No it has'nt
Sudane Erato: raise hand
Shep Titian: No one seems to have the stomach for it
Shep Titian: Sudane
Sudane Erato: regarding timing
Sudane Erato: there is nothing intrinsic here, except to do it as soon as possible... so
Callipygian Christensen: I have taken pictues but I dont do machinima
Sudane Erato: i agree that if people feel they have no yet fully docuemnted the old build
Sudane Erato: they we can wait
Tanoujin Milestone: Tanoujin Milestone raises hand
Sudane Erato: my concern now was just to get the go ahead from the RA and chancellor
Shep Titian: People have had plenty of time Sudane
Lilith Ivory: I´ve taken a few pictures too but didn´t have the time to take more
Sudane Erato: we'll be happy to wait until photos and videos are finished
Sudane Erato: done
Bagheera Kristan: I would like to propose that we wait at least a week from the time of approval before the move begins, so people who maybe were delaying, realize they'd better get moving if they care to get their photos in
Shep Titian: Thank you
Moonrise Azalee: Razzy nods
Tanoujin Milestone: though
Tanoujin Milestone: i strongly recommend
Tanoujin Milestone: we approve the Schloss in its state ready for the move today
Shep Titian: I propose we allow the building to continue on the permanent site
Shep Titian: Tan
Tanoujin Milestone: let us fix the following
Tanoujin Milestone: 1. we are fine with the new schloss
Tanoujin Milestone: 2. we want it moved when the time is there
Lilith IvoryLilith Ivory raises her hand
Tanoujin Milestone: and set a time to finish the documentation of the old building
Tanoujin Milestone: done
Shep Titian: Lil
Tor Karlsvalt: raises hand
Shep Titian: After Lol Tor
Lilith Ivory: I just wanted to suggest to set a time for the move already as "when the time is there" so sounds CDS like
Shep Titian: Lil
Shep Titian: sorry
Tor Karlsvalt: I propose that RA approve the schloss and allow the Chancellor to set the time of the move no earlier than next Saturday.
Pip Torok: i agree
Moonrise Azalee: Razzy raises hand
Tor Karlsvalt: If we need more time to finish a picture montage then I will extend the move a bit.
Tor Karlsvalt: Naturally, we need to fit into people's schedules.
Tor Karlsvalt: done
Tanoujin Milestone: I support the Chancellors suggestion
Bagheera Kristan: I do too
Moonrise Azalee: Razzy lowers hand
Shep Titian: I already propsed it be moved
Shep Titian: No one seconded
Pip Torok: i second
Shep Titian: You can't Pip sorry
Moonrise Azalee: I second
Sudane Erato: lol Pip... you're not in the RA! )
Shep Titian: Thank you Razzy
Sudane Erato: hehe
Tanoujin Milestone: could you repeat, Shep? I obviously missed it, my apologies
Pip Torok: of course (must frop those bad habits!)
Shep Titian: ok vote on the new build being approved to move to the permanent site
Shep Titian: Aye
Bagheera Kristan: aye
Moonrise Azalee: aye
Tanoujin Milestone: aye
Shep Titian: Passed .. excellent
Sudane Erato: ty
Tor Karlsvalt: ♫~~♫~~APPLAUSE~~♫~~♫
Pip Torok: marvellous!! )
Moonrise Azalee: Razzy smiles
Shep Titian: Tor if you can take it from here
Serge Voorhees: Serge Voorhees smiles
Shep Titian: Cool
Tanoujin Milestone: phew
Sudane Erato: Rosie and I will be happy to work with Tor on this
Sudane Erato: as he suggests
Shep Titian: Excellent
Shep Titian: We look forward to the first ball
Sudane Erato: yes!!!
Tor Karlsvalt: I will let every one know when the wrecking party happens.
Sudane Erato:
Callipygian Christensen: Sudane- I have a number of images that can be made into tapestries if you or Rosie want to provide the tapestry prim
Sudane Erato: oh... we can talk
Shep Titian: Ok .. now just a discussion as yet lol
Tor Karlsvalt: that would be an excellent idea
Tor Karlsvalt: a tapestry maybe of the old schloss?
Pip Torok: I have a number of tapestries that were in the tanzhaus, Sudane
Shep Titian: In the fervour to restock with citizens .. and the talking about remoddling LA
Sudane Erato: we'd be happy to accept full perm textures for proposed tapestries or any other pictures
Shep Titian: I'm sorry am I disturbing you
Sudane Erato: sorry... just answering... time to move on, i agree
Shep Titian: Thanks
Shep Titian: Basically .. how do folks feel about all the sims being looked at
Bagheera Kristan: raises hand
Shep Titian: maybe make some bigger parcels where possible
Shep Titian: Bahs
Bagheera Kristan: oh sorry, you weren't done please finish
Shep Titian: There are places where paths lead no where .. many other small bits that could save prim and m,ake the parcels more appealing
Pip Torok: can we assume that the sims with the most serious shortage will be looked at first?
Moonrise Azalee: Razzy raises hand
Shep Titian: If people think its a good idea I thought a committee might be the way to go
Shep Titian: ok done
Shep Titian: razz anfrt Bags
Moonrise Azalee: Razzy giggles
Moonrise Azalee: thank you
Shep Titian: I low typos lol
Moonrise Azalee: just in response to what Pip said... I think that the sims we need to get habitated might be the ones we need to look at first.
Bagheera Kristan: I would love to help with the committee, I was also thinking about how to do it so it wouldn't be chaotic...
Shep Titian: Yes good point
Shep Titian: it seems a good opportunity to look in depth
Bagheera Kristan: I know we talked last month about this and said people should start fixing things as they were discovered, is this a continutation of that discussion?
Moonrise Azalee: There must be reasons why one sim is full and one is so empty. taking a look at redesigning paths, finding prims and maybe, as you mentioned, extending parcels.. would be good.
Moonrise Azalee: done
Tor Karlsvalt: raises hand
Shep Titian: It is in a way Bags .. its my responce to seeing nmo change lol
Shep Titian: But if thats whats wanted no problem
Bagheera Kristan: ah, sorry, my IRL father has been in the hospital this past month, I meant to do more
Shep Titian: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Tor Karlsvalt: sorry to hear that Bags.
Shep Titian: Hell I'm not blaming you
Moonrise Azalee: Sorry Bags
Bagheera Kristan: kk
Shep Titian: Awww so sorry .. I hope he recovers well
Bagheera Kristan: he's 92...
Shep Titian: Good genes
Bagheera Kristan: no worries, let's talk abotu what's at hand, I only meant to say this DOES matter to me, I just didn't get to it this month
Moonrise Azalee: Razzy nods
Shep Titian: Yes and my point was general hun .. I would'nt single anyone out
Shep Titian: CDS is alwats talk talk lol
Tor Karlsvalt: raises hand
Shep Titian: Tor
Tor Karlsvalt: Thanks
Tor Karlsvalt: I think the meeting I held had one theme, the theme of LA should be tweaked.
Tor Karlsvalt: I also believe that some redrawing of parcels is inorder.
Tor Karlsvalt: in LA the larger parcels have always been rather popular.
Shep Titian: Right .. what would you like it to be Tor?
Moonrise Azalee: Razzy nods
Bagheera Kristan: yes, I agree with Tor
Tor Karlsvalt: Well I know you might disagree but I think the Guild could run a contest for a map or plan.
Tor Karlsvalt: There could be some parameters.
Tor Karlsvalt: bigger harbor, more water, better music venue etc
Moonrise Azalee: Razzy nods
Shep Titian: Well the Guild is'nt a CDS gov't thing
Tanoujin Milestone: the Chancellor can hire the Guild
Shep Titian: You'd have to set the comp
Tor Karlsvalt: Also, we probably want to keep some of the legacy builds.
Shep Titian: Yes he can
Lilith Ivory: the RA could offer the guild that job if I remember right
Bagheera Kristan: are we still on the agenda? I am lost
Shep Titian: Yes hun
Shep Titian: its a discussion in general about tidying up etc
Serge Voorhees raises hand
Shep Titian: I'm more than happy for you to chair a committee if we can get one up and running
Bagheera Kristan: yes, okay. I am for prim saving and judicious redrawing of parcels to make larger parcels, I'm not for a wholesale overhaul of LA
Shep Titian: Getting a bad lag
Bagheera Kristan: chat lag - LOL! I wrote that a while back, sorry
Shep Titian: Its ok lol
Shep Titian: Serge
Serge Voorhees: As you know, I am new here, and maybe my question is superfluous.... does CDS has proper statistics on the PRIM-usage and on visitors?
Tor Karlsvalt: no we don't
Serge Voorhees: I would suggest then to gather such statistics, as they might be very helpful
Tor Karlsvalt: Well we know where prims are a problem, NFS.
Pip TorokPip Torok raises hand
Shep Titian: Pip
Shep Titian: Wb Tan
Pip Torok: imo keeping stats IN CASE they may be needed cd be a wate of valuable time
Pip Torok: waste
Tanoujin Milestone: thank you
Pip Torok: done
Serge Voorhees: Serge Voorhees raises hand
Shep Titian: Serge
Serge Voorhees: TY. Maybe I should explain better why I brought the topic.
Shep Titian: Please do
Serge Voorhees: Of course, you all do know calculating the static PRIM is not a problem, and can be easily gathered in statistic. But lag is also a problem of temp prims, which has to do with visitors and what scripts they are wearing
Shep Titian: yes
Moonrise Azalee: Razzy nods
Tor Karlsvalt: raises hand
Serge Voorhees: So if you don't know why some parts are laggy, and you would base yourself only on fixed prims, you might take wrong conclusions
Shep Titian: Tor
Tor Karlsvalt: thanks
Tor Karlsvalt: Just in response to Serge
Tor Karlsvalt: Correct me if I am wrong, but I think the old schloss has some temp prims that rezz only when you need them in a room
Bagheera Kristan: raises hand
Tor Karlsvalt: I have gotten a funny error from time to time up at the schloss. I suspect it is somewhat of a problem gone overlooked for a long time.
Tor Karlsvalt: done
Serge Voorhees: Serge Voorhees raises hand
Shep Titian: serge
Bagheera Kristan: raises hand higher
Shep Titian: Sorry Bags
Shep Titian: After serge
Bagheera Kristan: ty
Serge Voorhees: In answer to Tor:: as far as the "schloß" is concerned, I am unaware. I was only referring to the # of prims (from scripts) that are brought in by visiting ALTS as a cause of LAG, and hence discomfort. That is also the reason why you find PRIM-counters for visitors on some SIMS
Moonrise Azalee: Hey guys.. I've got to go
Moonrise Azalee: Family showed up a little while ago
Tor Karlsvalt: by Razzy
Tanoujin Milestone: Have a good time, Razzy
Shep Titian: I don't think we het enough visitors to worry lol
Bagheera Kristan: bye
Moonrise Azalee: :/ Sorry!
Shep Titian: Bags
Lilith Ivory: bye Razzi
Moonrise Azalee: Razzy waves
Pip Torok: au revoir razzy
Moonrise Azalee: Bye
Shep Titian: byre Razz
Bagheera Kristan: I meant to mention this earlier, but it seems areas that used to have some restrictions on rezzing now are open to rezzing by anyone and I keep stumbling across random prims that shouldn't be there. Just before todays' meeting I found one, a purchased hair that belonged to someone I didn't recognize. I don't have the powers to return these and I forget to mention them
Tor Karlsvalt: Girls can start by taking off their hair.
Tor Karlsvalt: sorry
Bagheera Kristan: but somehow, I think permissions have gotten changed inadvertently over time and there are now random prims by people who shouldn't be rezzing
Bagheera Kristan: CDS has - in my experience - been remarkably lag free, today's experience is the first real exception
Tor Karlsvalt: raises hand
Shep Titian: The ims should be set to group
Shep Titian: Tor
Tor Karlsvalt: thanks
Bagheera Kristan: done
Tor Karlsvalt: Thakns Bags for finding that
Shep Titian: thanks Bags
Tor Karlsvalt: I have been limiting prims on some LV land.
Tor Karlsvalt: especially in CN.
Sudane Erato: there will always be a need for clean-up crews to return garbage
Tanoujin Milestone: i volunteer 
Tor Karlsvalt: I know we recently changed much of he common land there from CN to LV and the perms might have been relaxed.
Bagheera Kristan: ah!
Tor Karlsvalt: I will look at that and restrict rezzing to only LV
Tor Karlsvalt: done
Shep Titian: Excellent
Tor Karlsvalt: But if you need LV perms see me or any other officer in LV.
Shep Titian: Is there anyone else here who would like to join Bags on a committee to check the sims?
Bagheera Kristan: a committee of one - LOL
Bagheera Kristan: makes decision amking so much easier
Shep Titian: Looking that way
Pip Torok: theyre the most efficient, usually!
Sudane Erato: well, there are other residents not present who might help
Bagheera Kristan: yes
Bagheera Kristan: I am laughing
Shep Titian: Yes I agree Sudane
Bagheera Kristan: well, I can start and people can join me as they please
Shep Titian: Ok we'll leave that as a work in progress .. but when it's formed its yours Bags
Bagheera Kristan: okay, thank you
Shep Titian: We'll talk to some others to see who will help
Bagheera Kristan: I appreciate that I'll put something on the forum too
Shep Titian: Yes cool
Shep Titian: Ok moving on
Shep Titian: Do you have an exec report Tor?
Tor Karlsvalt: thanks
Tor Karlsvalt: sure
Tor Karlsvalt: a few things
Shep Titian: You have thje floor
Tor Karlsvalt: first we have two new citizens, Candence Theus and Io ouch some thing
Tor Karlsvalt: both have parcels not in NFS.
Bagheera Kristan: hurrah !
Shep Titian: cool
Tor Karlsvalt: Second I have have placed a number of fachwerk on parcels and halved their land impact using the Convex Hull feature.
Tor Karlsvalt: I urge all to look into this, especially in NFS.
Shep Titian: so they buy a sofa now
Tor Karlsvalt:
Tor Karlsvalt: Also, we have had some goood work done in the guild re prefab houses for CDS
Tor Karlsvalt: Candence built a very good one and it can be viewed in LA on parcels 13 and 14
Sudane Erato: raise hand
Pip TorokPip Torok wd be happy to do an old4new swap of fachwerke in his inventory...
Tor Karlsvalt: I am going to plan a spring fest with hopefully an art fair in he streets of CN.
Tor Karlsvalt: I think some time in April will be good for that.
Tor Karlsvalt: Also, we will be taking up he ice in the next several weeks.
Tor Karlsvalt: probably toward the middle of March.
Tor Karlsvalt: done
Shep Titian: how many is several?
Sudane Erato:
Tor Karlsvalt: Well we have the schloss as a priority
Shep Titian: lol thats 2
Tor Karlsvalt: but I assume as soon as possible, I don't want to go too far past the 15th
Tor Karlsvalt: I like the snow, but am tired of it.
Sudane Erato: I can change the ground texs whenever asked
Tor Karlsvalt: and I hear Chicago might be 60 this week so.....
Tor Karlsvalt: chat lag
Shep Titian: Is that you done Tor?
Tor Karlsvalt: sorry yes
Shep Titian: ok thank you
Shep Titian: There being no announcements .. next meeting
Shep Titian: If we do 4 weeks
Shep Titian: Sunday 31st?
Bagheera Kristan: That's Easter
Shep Titian: is it oooh
Sudane Erato: western easter
Shep Titian: ok 7th April
Bagheera Kristan: LOL yes, Easter for me
Bagheera Kristan: 7th April is good for me
Shep Titian: Well we'll plump for that .. 1 pm again?
Bagheera Kristan: good for me
Tanoujin Milestone: okay
Shep Titian: Ok done
Shep Titian: Next meeting Sunday 7th April at 1 pm
Shep Titian: I propose we adjourn
Bagheera Kristan: seconded
Tanoujin Milestone: second
Tanoujin Milestone: and aye
Bagheera Kristan: aye
Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.
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