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01 June 2013 Swearing in of 19th RA & Meeting Transcript

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Tor Karlsvalt
[13:01] Ranma, how are things where you live?
[13:01] I was thinking about you with all the tornados.

Ranma Tardis
[13:02] I was in OKC just before the storms at the VA hospital, my town and house are ok ty

Shep Titian
[13:02] Ranma do you want to be LRA?

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:02] Good.
[13:02] I heard five more people were killed.

Rosie Gray
[13:02] oh my

Fern Leissa
[13:02] . That's scary. Glad you home is ok Ranma

Ranma Tardis
[13:03] oh my

Shep Titian
[13:03] God hun .. hope all goes well

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:03] FYI eveyone Oklahoma has been hit all week with huge storms and tornadoes.

Ranma Tardis
[13:03] so I left maybe an hour or so before they hit, drove on that hwy

Shep Titian
[13:03] Yes we've had that on our news

Fern Leissa
[13:04] feels like it is the second wk in a row?? Is that right?

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:04] one town close to Oklahoma Cit, Moore, was leveled.

Ranma Tardis
[13:04] that was day 3 of this week

Rosie Gray
[13:04] glad you're alright Ranma
[13:04] that's awful

Ranma Tardis
[13:05] have a bad connection
[13:05] than the week before

Fern Leissa
[13:05] I remember Moore. I guess so much awful has happened it seems longer

Ranma Tardis
[13:06] thy have been getting it all week
[13:06] 3 days of bad storms this week
[13:07] moore had some more storms

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:07] Yeah, the whole town was devastated. I think nine children died.

Shep Titian
[13:07] Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:07] Does anyone know about Nolligan and Razzy?

Ranma Tardis
[13:07] what is left is getting hit

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:07] We have had rain everyday as those storms move up and east to the midwest.

Shep Titian
[13:07] Yes not coming

Rosie Gray
[13:07] I saw Nolligan this morning
[13:08] but it's probably the middle of the night for him

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:08] Nolligan might have gone to bed. He was at the meeting earlier about Cedar Island.

Pip Torok
[13:08] trouble is its deep night in china

Shep Titian
[13:08] Lilith .. could we invite you to swear in the three of us present?

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:08] oh, okay.... may I suggest we let the SC chair until we are sworn in and LRA selected? Yes, Shep

Lilith Ivory
[13:08] of course

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:08] and me I think

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:08] sorry, Tor
[13:09] I am slef absorbed

Rosie Gray
[13:09] yes, you too Tor

Lilith Ivory
[13:09] no Tor I think Calli wanted to swaear you in at the inaugurial ball

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:09] oh ok

Lilith Ivory
[13:09] didn´t she tell you?

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:09] oh, will we have a ball? Fantastic!

Ranma Tardis
[13:09] lets get it done

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:09] not really. I got her for DJ, but had to log soon afterward.

Shep Titian
[13:09] Its usually done at the ball I recall

Lilith Ivory
[13:10] let me call you to order gusys

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:10] Can't remember a thing unless it is in inventory.

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:10] hehehe

Lilith Ivory
[13:10] I am going to drop you a notecard now the the oath
[13:11] Lilith Ivory gives Tor a strict look

Fern Leissa
[13:11] hehe

Rosie Gray
[13:11] Rosie Gray grins

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:11] haha

Lilith Ivory
[13:11] did I miss somebody?

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:12] Tor Karlsvalt sits quietly on his hands.

Ranma Tardis
[13:12] am looking for it
[13:12] am on a friends computer

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:12] Welcome Dylan.

Lilith Ivory
[13:12] you get swrorn in at the ball Tor

GrandDukeDylan Rothmoor
[13:12] Hi all pip wants me to sit in

Lilith Ivory
[13:12] I can copy paste the oath too Ranma
[13:13] Hi Dylan

Ranma Tardis
[13:13] I will get te first one

Lilith Ivory
[13:13] The affirmation of office is a public declaration that in the office to which you have been duly elected, you will solomnly affirm to uphold the Constitution of the CDS and take the duties of the RA seriously
so please if you would, insert your own name into the RA affirmation and read the text into the local chat:

Ranma Tardis
[13:14] alright

Shep Titian
[13:14] c
[13:14] I Shep Titian having been elected as a Member of the Representative Assembly of the Confederation of Democratic Simulators, do solemnly affirm that I will faithfully discharge my duties as such to the best of my ability, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the Confederation of Democratic Simulators, and that I will preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of Confederation of Democratic Simulators.

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:15]
[13:15] I, Tanoujin Milestone, having been elected as a Member of the Representative Assembly of the Confederation of Democratic Simulators, do solemnly affirm that I will faithfully discharge my duties as such to the best of my ability, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the Confederation of Democratic Simulators, and that I will preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of Confederation of Democratic Simulators.

Shep Titian
[13:16] Congrats Tan

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:16] same to you

Rosie Gray
[13:16] clap clap clap

Lilith Ivory
[13:16] Ranma?

Fern Leissa
[13:17] clap clap clap

Bagheera Kristan#http://mbprofile:821e9d49-c5e0-4d2d-9451-3e1188b833e5&Bagheera Kristan
[13:17] !! Applause !!

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:17] ?~~?~~APPLAUSE~~?~~?

Fern Leissa
[13:17] Congratulations everyone!

Lilith Ivory
[13:17] did I miss Ranma declaring?

Ranma Tardis
[13:17] I Ranma Tardis having been elected as a Member of the Representative Assembly of the Confederation of Democratic Simulators, do solemnly affirm that I will faithfully discharge my duties as such to the best of my ability, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the Confederation of Democratic Simulators, and that I will preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of Confederation of Democratic Simulators.

Pip Torok
[13:17] clapclap

Rosie Gray
[13:17] Rosie Gray was just thinking the same thing
[13:17] aaah
[13:17] clap clap clap

Shep Titian
[13:17] Congrats Ran

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:17] Have a good term, Ranma

Lilith Ivory
[13:17] thank you Ranma and congratulations to all of you

GrandDukeDylan Rothmoor
[13:17] *clap*

Rosie Gray
[13:17] wooo hoo

Shep Titian
[13:18] Thank you Lilith for swearing us in

Lilith Ivory
[13:18] Lilith Ivory aplauds

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:18] wonderful!
[13:18] I propose Shep Titian as a candidate for LRA

Lilith Ivory
[13:18] I will try to get hold on Nolligan and Razzi, and bring them here to swear them in too

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:18] Ok

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:19] , yes, get hold of them, very nice

Ranma Tardis
[13:19] do you want it? my friend?

Shep Titian
[13:19] Nooligan will be asleep he said

Lilith Ivory
[13:19] if I fing them I´ll send out a group note to have maybe some witnesses here in the praetorium

Shep Titian
[13:19] IO will take it happily .. but also give it happily if you want a turn

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:20] Perhaps we will see him some morning.

Ranma Tardis
[13:20] to be LRA?

Shep Titian
[13:20] yes

Lilith Ivory
[13:20] I see Nolli often so he´s not the problem

Ranma Tardis
[13:20] would be nice, keep in pratice

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:20] thats great, imo - what do you think, Ranma?
[13:20] Tanoujin Milestone nods
[13:21] so lets vote, what do you say?

Ranma Tardis
[13:21] lets

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:21] and I say Aye to Shep

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:21]

Shep Titian
[13:22] Ran do you want it?

Ranma Tardis
[13:22] yes

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:22] Congrats and thank you for serving!

Shep Titian
[13:22] Ok then I propose Ranma

Ranma Tardis
[13:22] bu if you wat it

Shep Titian
[13:23] So we need the 7 day votes

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:23] did Ran vote yes to Shep or answer Shep's question?

Ranma Tardis
[13:23] yes to being LRA

Shep Titian
[13:23] I thought she answered me

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:23] and I thought she voted

Rosie Gray
[13:24] Rosie Gray laughs

Shep Titian
[13:24] Ok well as Tan voted for me although I was'nt seconded

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:24] my fault

Shep Titian
[13:24] Not sure where we styand now

Ranma Tardis
[13:24] voting for myself makes it two

Lilith Ivory
[13:25] maybe we should just try it again as shep didn´t get a second

Shep Titian
[13:25] Can we second ourselves though?

Lilith Ivory
[13:26] seems to become a difficult term ;-)

Shep Titian
[13:26] Yes
[13:26] We need people to attend

Ranma Tardis
[13:26] yes

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:26] Now, Ranma, do you want to become LRA? Did I get that right?

Ranma Tardis
[13:27] well yes

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:27] oh, I see! I did not get your answer when Shep asked you first
[13:28] very interesting!

Ranma Tardis
[13:28] so do you second Tan?
[13:29] lets vote

Lilith Ivory
[13:29] as far as I can see we have two proposed candidates at the moment
[13:30] might be good to vote for them with with the normal procedure

Ranma Tardis
[13:31] since the vote has been call, I vote for me

Shep Titian
[13:32] I vote for Ranma

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:32] Lilith, we need a chair

Shep Titian
[13:32] We need the 7 day votes

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:32] i vote shep, bc I do not change my word on the fly, rest up to 7 day righ?

Lilith Ivory
[13:33] weel if all 3 of you vote for Ranma now we don´t seem to need them right?
[13:33] but was good to have them anyway

Ranma Tardis
[13:33] yes

Rosie Gray
[13:34] Rosie Gray wonders if one of the missing RA might have wanted to run for LRA as well

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:34] Tor Karlsvalt thinks good point.

Shep Titian
[13:34] True Rosie
[13:34] Although I doubt Noli as he is away soon for over a month

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:35] hm, I think if someone wants to be LRA she could notify us before the meeting and be excused for it?

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:35] another good point.

Lilith Ivory
[13:35] I agree tan

Shep Titian
[13:35] True Tan

Ranma Tardis
[13:35] we need an LRA

Rosie Gray
[13:35] Ranma
[13:35] true

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:35] Well it would be nice to get it cleared up.

Rosie Gray
[13:36] Rosie Gray shuts up now

Fern Leissa
[13:36] hehe

Lilith Ivory
[13:36] I´d suggest tovote again in a normal procedure

Ranma Tardis
[13:36] yes

Lilith Ivory
[13:36] Shep got proposed first from Tan but had no second

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:36] A second ballot. Or third.

Lilith Ivory
[13:36] next Shep proposed Ranma

Ranma Tardis
[13:36] I have to go

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:37] Tor Karlsvalt scratches his head.

Lilith Ivory
[13:37] and got a second from Tan if I remmeber right

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:37] no, that is not true

Ranma Tardis
[13:37] so I change my vote to shep

Shep Titian
[13:37] Neither of us was seconded

Ranma Tardis
[13:37] second shep

Lilith Ivory
[13:37] ok just trying to straighten things out
[13:38] does any of our candidates get a second now?

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:38] i second shep
[13:38] but i cant second myself
[13:38]

Lilith Ivory
[13:38] ok so all in favour for shep say aye please

Ranma Tardis
[13:38] aye

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:38] aye

Shep Titian
[13:38] Aye

Lilith Ivory
[13:39] ok congrats shep

Ranma Tardis
[13:39] congrats

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:39] Tanoujin Milestone lifts an eyebrow

Shep Titian
[13:39] Thank you

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:39] Tor Karlsvalt waits pensively for he chair.

Ranma Tardis
[13:39] my rl is pressing me

Lilith Ivory
[13:39] yes?

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:39] Yay!!!!

Lilith Ivory
[13:39] Tan?

Shep Titian
[13:39] Ranma we'll talk hun

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:39] Congrats Shep

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:39] thank you!

Shep Titian
[13:39] Thank you

Bagheera Kristan
[13:39] congratulations

Rosie Gray
[13:39] ··•°•··..? Applauds! ? ..··•°•··..

Fern Leissa
[13:39] Congratulations Shep

Ranma Tardis
[13:40] no worries

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:40] ?~~?~~APPLAUSE~~?~~?

Lilith Ivory
[13:40] APPLAUSE

Ranma Tardis
[13:40] congrats my friend
[13:40] ok will be afk

Shep Titian
[13:40] ok we need to set the next meeting
[13:41] Thank you Ran
[13:41] Tan ... we need to fix meetings so we can include Noli

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:42] yes, do you know about his availability?

Lilith Ivory
[13:42] I see Nolligan often during the europen day

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:42] he seems to be online early in the morning for me
[13:42] It might be doable.

Shep Titian
[13:42] Yes I know 1pm SLT is 3am with him

Fern Leissa
[13:42] eeek

Rosie Gray
[13:43]

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:43] well, okay, that is much asked

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:43] we would just have to be up early in the US.

Lilith Ivory
[13:43] what abou Razis prefered online times if I may ask?

Shep Titian
[13:43] Yes .. it works for us europeans

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:43] how can we sync Razzy and Nlligan?

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:43] Well she is on SL time.

Shep Titian
[13:43] we can't

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:43] i will adapt - on a saturday, anytime

Lilith Ivory
[13:43] but somehow normal RA meetings don´t seem to work for her well too

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:44] So if she could be up at say 7 SLT, that might work.

Shep Titian
[13:44] she has 5 children

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:44] What is 7 SLT in Europe?
[13:44] yikes.

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:44] +9

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:45] ok, so like six PM.

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:45] right

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:45] no
[13:45] ok

Lilith Ivory
[13:45] 4pm if I can do the math right atm
[13:45] Lilith Ivory scratches head

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:45] hahaha, shoot me

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:45] Yeah I think 4, i miscounted.
[13:45] it would be 9am for me.
[13:46] Nolli make the meeting today
[13:46] It started at 8SLT

Rosie Gray
[13:46] why don't you do a "Doodle" to find a suitable time?

Lilith Ivory
[13:46] brb

Rosie Gray
[13:46] http://www.doodle.com/main.html

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:46] I bet 7 to 8 might be good for Nolli

Rosie Gray
[13:46] it's a free scheduling app

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:46] Razzy might be able to make that too.
[13:47] ok

Shep Titian
[13:47] yes late evening

Lilith Ivory
[13:47] back

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:47] we talk about 7 pm SLT, right?
[13:48] no, 7 am

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:48] I suppose you could switch off between say 4 am slt to 8 am slt .

Shep Titian
[13:48] wb

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:48] okay, what time is 7 am SLT for Nolligan?

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:48] one or the other might not be able to make it.
[13:49] It must be late at night.
[13:49] He made the meeting at 8

Shep Titian
[13:49] 9pm

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:49] ok that isn't too bad.
[13:49] you know if he will out travelling next month, he might not be able to make any meeting.

Shep Titian
[13:49] I can do 9pm ok
[13:50] tsk
[13:50] 7am

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:50] I am good with the morning truth be told.

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:50] fine, let us try that and see how it works out?

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:50] shoot I get up early most every day.

Shep Titian
[13:51] Ok can we make the next meeting for two weeks?

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:51] Ball is next sunday, the 9th.
[13:51] noon
[13:51] I will get some invites out
[13:51] and ask that Delia or Jon pass them to CI.

Rosie Gray
[13:51] :D

Shep Titian
[13:52] Yes cool .. as soon as poss Tor .. and do a couple of reminder notes

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:52] Tanoujin Milestone nods

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:52] k
[13:52] prolly get a nice pic of the new schloss.

Lilith Ivory
[13:52] do you have an archivist already to post this transcript btw?

Shep Titian
[13:52] yes

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:53] I suppose we need a flag on the new schoss.

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:53] Yes, Bags is doing it via the cat over there

Shep Titian
[13:53] We do ..

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:53] maybe several waving in different directions.

Rosie Gray
[13:53] I can put one there, but I refuse to do two different directions

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:53] haha

Shep Titian
[13:53] I am thrilled to announce that Bagheera ios our new Archivist

Fern Leissa
[13:53] Sorry must go. Nice to see everyone

Rosie Gray
[13:54] Fern!

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:54] I thought that might be a nice homage to the old schloss.

Lilith Ivory
[13:54] see you Fern

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:54] by Fern

Pip Torok
[13:54] au revoir Fern

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:54] Fern

Rosie Gray
[13:54] Rosie Gray gives Tor a POKE!

Shep Titian
[13:54] Fern

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:54] haha
[13:54] ouch
[13:55] btw. Samantha was online earlier this week.
[13:55] she never responded to my IM.

Pip Torok
[13:55] Samantha Fuller?

Shep Titian
[13:55] Ok next meeting Sat 15th June at 7am SLT
[13:55] Agreed??

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:55] yeah Pip.

Pip Torok
[13:55] well well...

Tanoujin Milestone
[13:56] agreed, !

Shep Titian
[13:56] ok cool

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:56] great

Shep Titian
[13:56] Tor do you have anything you want to say?

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:56] Tor Karlsvalt hopes Ebony is looking at Lilith.

Lilith Ivory
[13:56] Lilith Ivory is curious about the cedar meeting

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:57] um, thanks

Lilith Ivory
[13:57] he stares at my leash holder
[13:57] or she

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:57] Well we have to get in gear for SL10

Pip Torok
[13:57] i have an informal transcipt ... wish i cd give it to ppl

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:57] Lil has done a great job with the exhibit build.

Shep Titian
[13:57] he

Lilith Ivory
[13:57] it´s not finished yet but comes along well so far

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:57] I will be asking for some comments from citizens.

Rosie Gray
[13:58] great idea

Shep Titian
[13:58] Cool

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:58] I am thinking I will have some comments about what CDS means to people.

Lilith Ivory
[13:58] > ; >

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:58] so will be asking for that

Rosie Gray
[13:58] nice

Lilith Ivory
[13:58] and we DO need a timeline of our history I think

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:58] Also, probalby try to make a nice time line with historical pic as a backdrop.
[13:59] I have this in my head. I hope I can execute it.

Shep Titian
[13:59] sounds exciting

Tor Karlsvalt
[13:59] And we had a meeting with members of Cedar Island.
[14:00] It was this morning on the Quay.

Tanoujin Milestone
[14:00] Really! What do they say?

Rosie Gray
[14:00] it was quite positive!

Pip Torok
[14:00] as i said i wish my transcript cd tell you ....

Shep Titian
[14:00] I see we have Dylan with us

Tor Karlsvalt
[14:00] There seems to be some interest in some members of Cedar making a home hear. We are hoping Jon and Delia can bring a plan to the next meeting.

GrandDukeDylan Rothmoor
[14:00] *grins
[14:01] im not from Cedar just a friend of Pips

Tor Karlsvalt
[14:01] yes, Dylan is a member of Cedar.

Rosie Gray
[14:01] hehe

Tanoujin Milestone
[14:01] hehe.

GrandDukeDylan Rothmoor
[14:01] im observing a SL democracy

Tor Karlsvalt
[14:02] Perhaps we could make sure the Cedar group is notified of our RA meetings.

Tanoujin Milestone
[14:02] that transcript - i am sure everyone agreed to be recorded?
[14:02] Pip?

Rosie Gray
[14:02] there was a bit of coming and going

Tor Karlsvalt
[14:02] yes will will post it to our forum

Pip Torok
[14:02] good idea tor ... cd someone im them all the IP of the Forum and the portal?

Tor Karlsvalt
[14:03] I know Delia passed the link to the portal.

Rosie Gray
[14:03] I gave them the portal this morning

Tor Karlsvalt
[14:03] but it would not hurt to do it again.

Shep Titian
[14:03] Can I call an official end here?

Pip Torok
[14:03] the sooner they start contributing the sooner theyll feel a part of CDS

Tor Karlsvalt
[14:03] sure, I am don'e
[14:03] done

Pip Torok
[14:03] and me

Shep Titian
[14:03] Ok move to adjorn
[14:03] vote

Tanoujin Milestone
[14:03] second

Shep Titian
[14:03] Aye

Tor Karlsvalt
[14:03] I agree Pip. I came to meetings before I decided to buy land.

Tanoujin Milestone
[14:04] aye

Tor Karlsvalt
[14:04] ?~~?~~APPLAUSE~~?~~?

Shep Titian
[14:04] Ok thanks all for attending

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Re: 01 June 2013 Swearing in of 19th RA & Meeting Transcript

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Swearing in of Nolligan Nino, Tue, 04 Jun 2013

[05:17] Lilith Ivory: The affirmation of office is a public declaration that in the office to which you have been duly elected, you will solemnly affirm to uphold the Constitution of the CDS and take the duties of the RA seriously
so please if you would, insert your own name into the RA affirmation and read the text into the local chat:
[05:17] Pip Torok: a little early for the americans methinks
[05:18] Nolligan (nolligan.nino): I, Nolligan Nino , having been elected as a Member of the Representative Assembly of the Confederation of Democratic Simulators, do solemnly affirm that I will faithfully discharge my duties as such to the best of my ability, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the Confederation of Democratic Simulators, and that I will preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of Confederation of Democratic Simulators.
[05:18] Pip Torok: HURRAY!
[05:18] Nolligan (nolligan.nino): Hear my words and bear witness to my vow

Night gathers and now my watch begins
[05:18] Lilith Ivory: thank you Nolligan and congrats :)
[05:18] Pip Torok: CONGRATULATIONS Nolligan
[05:18] Lilith Ivory giggles
[05:19] Lilith Ivory: I am going to post it on the forum to let all know you are a proper RA member now
[05:19] Pip Torok: good idea, Lilith ....
[05:19] Nolligan (nolligan.nino): Thank you
[05:19] Nolligan (nolligan.nino): proper...
[05:20] Nolligan (nolligan.nino): I like the sound of that
[05:20] Pip Torok: ... the things that go on while good folks are asleep! ... :)

"The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it."
Terry Pratchett
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