Journal of SC Meeting Aug 4 2013 8 AM
Agenda as adopted:
Old Business
Confirm duties of SC Dean - 15 minutes
Meeting procedures - 15 min
Forum management and moderation -15 min
New Business
Dates for future election cycles - 5 mins
Schedule for election of the Dean - 5 mins
Resubmitting Constitutional Amendment re: Article III Philisophic Branch - 10 mins
Reform of Appeal/impeachment/judiciary processes in CDS -20 mins
Next meeting August 25
Summary of Actions:
-Calli will edit the duties of Dean to reflect discussion and post on Forums
- SC to review and comment on meeting procedures for adoption vote next meeting
-all SC members to check they have access to Admin controls of Forums and know how to add a new member
-Lilith and Arria to prepare dates of election cycles 21 through 25
-election of Dean will take place in September
-Calli will resubmit the Constitutional Amendment
-Calli, Soro and Delia will begin a draft of appeal/impeachment/judicary processes
Transcript:
[08:08] Callipygian Christensen: ok, meeting is called to order
[08:09] Callipygian Christensen: Lilith, Soro, can we adopt the agenda as published please?
[08:09] Lilith Ivory: yes 
[08:09] Soro Dagostino: Yes
[08:09] Rosie Gray squints to see the SC up in the dark
[08:09] Tor Karlsvalt:
[08:09] Callipygian Christensen: Thanks you
[08:10] Lilith Ivory: should we mention we are going to transcript the meeting and that I will post it on the forum later?
[08:10] Soro Dagostino: Cntrl/Shift/y
[08:10] Delia Lake entered draw distance (100.11 m).
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[08:10] Lilith Ivory smiles
[08:10] MystiTool HUD 1.3.0-freebie: Entering chat range: Delia Lake (18m)
[08:10] Delia Lake entered chat range (17.57 m).
[08:10] Soro Dagostino: Oh wonderful Delia is with us.
[08:10] Tor Karlsvalt: Hi Delia
[08:10] Rosie Gray: morning Delia
[08:10] Lilith Ivory: Hi Delia
[08:10] Callipygian Christensen: First, an apology. We have not met in some months due to various RL crises. Fortunately no legislative issues or election issues have happened during that time, making it much easier for us.
[08:10] Shep (shep.titian): Hi Delia
[08:10] Callipygian Christensen: welcome Delia
[08:10] Soro Dagostino: Someone who knows the rules.
[08:11] Delia Lake: /good morning
[08:11] Sheen Revnik is online.
[08:11] Callipygian Christensen: Please be aware that your presence and anything spoken here is recorded and published everyone
[08:11] Soro Dagostino raises hand
[08:12] Callipygian Christensen: Yes Soro?
[08:12] Soro Dagostino: Point of information.
[08:12] Callipygian Christensen: yes?
[08:12] Soro Dagostino: Is the Procedure Rules published those prepared by Delia?
[08:13] Callipygian Christensen: No, I am not aware of a set of procedures created by Delia. I adapted this drft from the current Code
[08:13] Tor Karlsvalt wonders if somebody will TP Arria.
[08:13] Callipygian Christensen: Delia - did you prepare a draft Code?
[08:14] Arria Perreault is online.
[08:14] Arria Perreault entered draw distance (86.15 m).
[08:14] Lilith Ivory: ah Arria just came online
[08:14] Delia Lake: the original one was done ty Diderot in 2007
[08:15] Callipygian Christensen: Yes Delia, I used that one to revise from
[08:15] Delia Lake: revised by me and Claude
[08:15] Callipygian Christensen nods v 1.2 I believe
[08:15] Arria Perreault entered chat range (19.83 m).
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[08:15] Delia Lake: in 2009
[08:16] Callipygian Christensen: welcome Arria - documents are in the box
[08:16] Lilith Ivory: Hi Arria
[08:16] Delia Lake: and I did a little revision in 2010
[08:16] Arria Perreault: Hi Calli, Hi Lilith
[08:16] Tor Karlsvalt: Hi Arria
[08:16] Rosie Gray: hello Arria
[08:16] Arria Perreault: hi everybody ㋡
[08:16] Callipygian Christensen: thank you Delia
[08:17] Delia Lake: and particularly in reference to petitioning the SC
[08:17] Callipygian Christensen: the draft in the box is only meeting procedure
[08:18] Callipygian Christensen: Does that answer your question Soro?
[08:18] Soro Dagostino: Yes.
[08:18] Soro Dagostino: Thank you Delia
[08:19] Callipygian Christensen: arria we are just about to start with the first item of business
[08:20] Callipygian Christensen: confirm duties of the SC Dean
[08:20] Callipygian Christensen: this was discussed by arria and I at the last meeting
[08:20] Callipygian Christensen: Arria had concerns about giving huge powers to the Dean
[08:21] Callipygian Christensen: SC members were asked to review the transcript and toreview the draft of the duties
[08:21] Callipygian Christensen: the draft can be found here: http://forums.slcds.info/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=4006
[08:22] Callipygian Christensen: Since Arria and I have already discussed a fair amount, I invite Soro and Lilith to give their thoughts first.
[08:22] Arria Perreault: ok
[08:23] Soro Dagostino: Printing.
[08:23] Lilith Ivory: I agree with those rules as I trust us to find a matching set of procedures and want the SC to work as fast and smooth as possible
[08:24] Aliasi Stonebender is online.
[08:25] Callipygian Christensen: Soro?
[08:26] Callipygian Christensen: (hopefully Aliasi will land i my lap at any moment)
[08:26] Soro Dagostino: The list you propose seems appropriate
[08:26] Aliasi Stonebender entered chat range (2.86 m).
[08:26] Aliasi Stonebender entered draw distance (2.86 m).
[08:26] MystiTool HUD 1.3.0-freebie: Entering chat range: Aliasi Stonebender (2m)
[08:26] Callipygian Christensen: Arria, do you have an further commment?
[08:26] Lilith Ivory: Hi Aliasi
[08:27] Tor Karlsvalt: Hi Aliasi
[08:27] Soro Dagostino: There has been other meetings and discussions as to what the "Dean" should do.
[08:27] Callipygian Christensen: welcome Aliasi - documents are in the box on the table
[08:27] Aliasi Stonebender: (hello - probably won't be here for the full meeting, sadly)
[08:27] Callipygian Christensen: Indeed Soro - much of this admin we are working through has een discussed through the last 3 deans at least
[08:28] Arria Perreault: I still have concern for some points that should be duties of the SC and not of the Dean only and one point that should not be on the list at all
[08:28] Callipygian Christensen: Aliasi, we are on first tiem - do you have any comment n the draft Duties of the Dean posted on the Forums?
[08:29] Arria Perreault: duties of the SC with quorum :
[08:29] Soro Dagostino raises hand
[08:29] Callipygian Christensen: Arria - please itemize them - your reasons Ithink are in the previous transcript
[08:29] Arria Perreault: -ratify the official Citizen's List once the appeal period is over, and/or all appeals have been heard and resolved
[08:29] Arria Perreault: -receive and ratify the election results from the manager of the election software and announce the results in the Forums and inworld group notices
[08:30] Arria Perreault: the following point should not be on this list : -ensure that members of the SC are fulfilling their duties
[08:30] Aliasi Stonebender: that would be the post dated march 20th, yes?
[08:30] Callipygian Christensen: Soro, noted, will get to you after Arria and Aliasi
[08:31] Arria Perreault: I think that ratification of elections results can't be the duty of one single person
[08:31] Callipygian Christensen: yes Aliasi
[08:31] Arria Perreault: done
[08:31] Callipygian Christensen: thank you Arria
[08:32] Callipygian Christensen: Aliasi?
[08:32] Aliasi Stonebender: well, ratification itself, maybe not - but the actual physical acts of taking the results and posting them? Best to have a single clearly defined person.
[08:32] Aliasi Stonebender: I was getting to it, Calli.
[08:32] Aliasi Stonebender: I've been awake for about 20 minutes, here. 
[08:32] Callipygian Christensen: no problem Aliasi - just making sure there isnt dead air time
[08:33] Callipygian Christensen nods - any other concerns Aliasi? Then Soro.
[08:33] Soro Dagostino: ((We could fill it in with a recording of someone snoring . . . ))
[08:33] Rosie Gray snickers
[08:34] Aliasi Stonebender: The duties are mostly okay, although I'd probably want to double check it's more in the way of 'this is the person on whom the onus of crossing the "t's" falls'. One of the real problems we have is the whole "not MY department" thing.
[08:35] Callipygian Christensen: So an addition of something like 'The Dean is tasked with ensuring tht the SC meets its obligations to the CDs?
[08:35] Callipygian Christensen: as an overarching statement at the start?
[08:35] Soro Dagostino raises hand
[08:35] Callipygian Christensen: You are up after Aliasi Soro
[08:37] Callipygian Christensen: ok.Soro..go ahead..will give liasi time to review/type
[08:37] Aliasi Stonebender: Well, basically. But I see the position being largely one of responsibility, not extra bennies. So I'd be careful with the phrasing of "the dean shall ratify this" or that.
[08:38] Aliasi Stonebender: It's the Dean's job to make sure everyone is doing theirs, but it's not their job to go off on things that need the SC as a whole.
[08:38] Soro Dagostino: I ask if there is to be a requirement that the Dean set special meetings of SC based upon a petition of the citizenry?
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[08:38] Callipygian Christensen: Asa point of information, ratification of the elections results is really a rubber stamp, since we accept the results as delivered
[08:38] Soro Dagostino: Not jut one person
[08:39] Aliasi Stonebender: just so long as that's understood.
[08:39] Callipygian Christensen: Soro - spedial meetings require their own draft and review so that can cerainly be included
[08:39] Soro Dagostino: As regards the duty of the Dean -- can't ignore?
[08:39] Callipygian Christensen: Ok Aliasi - so make it clear the Dean is the 'cross the t's person
[08:41] Callipygian Christensen: Soro..expand please..cant ignore what?
[08:41] Soro Dagostino: A "proper petition of citizens.
[08:41] Callipygian Christensen: (Not forgotten you Arria - wil come back to your other concerns after this)
[08:41] Arria Perreault: raises hand
[08:42] Callipygian Christensen: Soro - I thinthose things come under procedure for specia meetings, appeals etc..
[08:43] Callipygian Christensen: the duty is to call the meeting - what the procedure is to get to that tage exists separately?
[08:43] Soro Dagostino: But, given the "duties" paragraph, can the Dean ignore without consultation with the SC?
[08:44] Callipygian Christensen: -publicize all appeals received from the citizenry and call meetings as needed to resolve such appeals
[08:45] Callipygian Christensen: I am not sure if this i what you are conerened about not being clear enough?
[08:46] Soro Dagostino: "Appeals" speak to prior action. Petitions speak to original jurisdiction.
[08:46] Callipygian Christensen: so add in petition to that sentence and it covers your concern?
[08:47] Contessa Marquez is online.
[08:47] Soro Dagostino: I would agree.
[08:47] Callipygian Christensen: ok, thank you
[08:47] Callipygian Christensen: Arria?
[08:49] Arria Perreault: Elections dates are known and predictable. It cannot be an issue to make sure that 3 members including the Dean or the Dean pro tempore meets to ratify election results. Globally election matters cannot be the fact of one single person.
[08:50] Callipygian Christensen: Ok Arria, but as I said before - 'ratify' is a rather glorified term since we accept that the election process is correct anf final
[08:50] Arria Perreault: I suggest that all points regarding election are duties of the SC
[08:51] Callipygian Christensen: I start getting IMs asking if the results are in starting an hour or two after the polls close..i suspect Soro and Delia did also
[08:51] Delia Lake confirms what Calli said
[08:51] Callipygian Christensen: So are we to keep the poulace waiting until three of us can convene inworld to say 'yes'?
[08:51] Soro Dagostino: Yep.
[08:52] Callipygian Christensen: Or are three of us required to log in adn sit and wait for what may be a number of hours?
[08:52] Arria Perreault: we can use in-world meetings or mail, no problem. I just want to be sure that at least 3 members of the SC have confirmed the results as correct.
[08:53] Aliasi Stonebender: yeah, this isn't something that requires an inworld meeting.
[08:53] Aliasi Stonebender: heck, inworld meetings are something largely just useful as a fixed point, to be honest.
[08:53] Arria Perreault: Calli, democracy has a price ... I prefer waiting for correct results than getting wrong results
[08:53] Callipygian Christensen: I am trying to balance the right of the populae to speedy information - and since we are not ging to *not* ratify, it seems something administrative that the Dean shoulders as a responsibility, not a power point.
[08:54] Callipygian Christensen: Arria...is your concern that the results are only sent to the Dean?
[08:54] Callipygian Christensen: the progrram provides the results..easy enough to ask Jon to send results to all of us if he is willing
[08:54] Arria Perreault: no, to all SC members
[08:54] Prandi Capalini is online.
[08:55] Arria Perreault: the Dean waits for 2 answers before to publize
[08:55] Arria Perreault: this is quorum
[08:55] Callipygian Christensen: So if Jon sends to all SC members, instead of the Dean receiving and e-mailing everyone, you are ok with the Dean announcing?
[08:56] Arria Perreault: in case of a complaint, the Dean has to show that he/she got two answers from SC members before to make the results public
[08:56] Callipygian Christensen: Liltih, Soro, Aliasi..do you feel two need to respond before posting?
[08:57] Lilith Ivory: I don´t think this is necessary
[08:57] Aliasi Stonebender: Not really, no.
[08:57] Arria Perreault: other solution : there are 2 hours between the mail of the Master of the Poll system and the publication
[08:58] Soro Dagostino: Not if the results as announced are sent to all members of the SC.
[08:58] Callipygian Christensen: ok, then that will not be edited, but Jon will be asked to CC al members of the SC.is that acceptable?
[08:58] Arria Perreault: no time for us to react ?
[08:58] Ranma Tardis left chat range.
[08:59] Soro Dagostino: If no objection within two hours -- off they go.
[09:00] Callipygian Christensen: I fail to see what there is to react to - we are merely reporting the results of a progm
[09:00] Lilith Ivory: I agree with that Calli
[09:00] Soro Dagostino: And I remember Gore v. Bush.
[09:00] Arria Perreault: why Jon don't publish then ? 
[09:00] Arria Perreault: it needs a control
[09:01] Callipygian Christensen: Hey, I'd be thrilled if Jon published so I dont have to hang around and wait for results *shrug* but traditonally is it an a duty of the SC
[09:02] Arria Perreault: Calli, it could be that one day an other person than Jon is responsible for that
[09:02] Callipygian Christensen: ok - i wil edit to show tht the Dean will publish 2 hours after receiving the results, unless an SC member has e-mailed an objection..does tht do it?
[09:02] Arria Perreault: ok
[09:02] Soro Dagostino: I would agree --
[09:02] Callipygian Christensen: ok
[09:03] Lilith Ivory: ok
[09:03] Aliasi Stonebender: ok
[09:03] Callipygian Christensen: Arria..I think your final conern is 'the ean ensuring SC members perform their duties'
[09:03] Callipygian Christensen: you feel there should be no measure of accountability
[09:04] Callipygian Christensen: (this is from the previous meeting everyone..discussion in the trasncript)
[09:04] Callipygian Christensen: I feel that since we are a self-selecting group we areheld to a higher standard than the RA, who can be voted out if the populace feels they are not doing their job
[09:05] Callipygian Christensen: Sc members accept certin responsibilities by becoming members - if the Dean cannot point this out and require activity, then how do we ensure that SC members do meet their responsibilities
[09:06] Callipygian Christensen: so..comments from other members
[09:06] Lilith Ivory: I agree
[09:06] Callipygian Christensen: Soro?
[09:06] Arria Perreault: yes, but who is controlling the Dean ? And what are the sanctions ?
[09:07] Soro Dagostino: The Dean should have the right to submit the complaint to the body.
[09:07] Soro Dagostino: If it agrees, by majority vote of the remaining members, then the SC member can be disciplined.
[09:08] Arria Perreault: the duty, I would say
[09:08] Soro Dagostino: Agreed.
[09:08] Callipygian Christensen: Aliasi? any comments?
[09:10] Callipygian Christensen: I will comment in the interim
[09:11] Callipygian Christensen: The only member of the SC who is controlled in ANy way is the Dean - who si elected by the members of the SC
[09:11] Callipygian Christensen: electing someone would suggest faith that they will carry out the duties appropriately
[09:13] Aliasi Stonebender: no comment, sorry.
[09:13] Aliasi Stonebender: got a phonecall, gonna have to get running.
[09:13] Callipygian Christensen: I believe we need some procedure in place to ensre SC members are active and perfoming thier duites - and the Dean can 'ensure' this by e-amil conversation, personal contact, any number of ways that do not require a public announcement
[09:13] Aliasi Stonebender is offline.
[09:14] Soro Dagostino raises hand
[09:14] Callipygian Christensen: If that sort of appraoch doesnot succeeed the Dean, like any SC member, can move to have the member removed by a 2/3 majority
[09:15] Callipygian Christensen: but we have all seen the furor that is possible when the citizens feel the SC isnt preforming its duties - so let's make it clear in our procedures that WE take it seriously
[09:15] Callipygian Christensen: Soro?
[09:16] Soro Dagostino: I don't disagree with the Dean's right to "cajole" a lagging member.
[09:16] Soro Dagostino: It is the removal of that member that is the venue of the body.
[09:17] Callipygian Christensen: removal isnt mentioned anywhere in the draft Soro
[09:17] Callipygian Christensen: removal already is defined in the Consitution
[09:17] Callipygian Christensen: I dont think 'cajole' is a suitbale word for an official policy document
[09:18] Soro Dagostino: Rolled Newsprint?
[09:18] Callipygian Christensen: so if the problem is with the word 'ensure'..what alternate would people auggest that still carries the weight of importance it deserves?
[09:18] Soro Dagostino: Whap, whap, whap!
[09:19] Soro Dagostino: "ensure" to me has connotations of the right to remove or discipline.
[09:19] Callipygian Christensen: monitor, remind, encourage...
[09:19] Soro Dagostino: "Final action"
[09:20] Callipygian Christensen: some combination of those
[09:20] Soro Dagostino: done.
[09:20] Callipygian Christensen: 'monitor and remind'
[09:20] Soro Dagostino: That's acceptable.
[09:20] Callipygian Christensen: Arria..this is your original concern..so comment please?
[09:23] Callipygian Christensen: Arria is not typing s I will go ahead
[09:24] Callipygian Christensen: I wil edit the draft to show that change of wording Soro
[09:24] Callipygian Christensen: so a final comment as Dean on duties and this draft
[09:24] Soro Dagostino: Ok
[09:25] Callipygian Christensen: we just spent 75 minutes, with the delay in typing etc, on a review of a draft that has been publicized for 4 months
[09:26] Callipygian Christensen: these concerns and edits could have been discussed on the Forums, where all citizens coudld see them..and we could have voted on the edited draft in the 15 minutes allotted
[09:27] Callipygian Christensen: so I ask ALL Sc members to participate in discussion of proposals on the Forums as part of your active participation, so tht we can spedn meeting time more productively
[09:27] Callipygian Christensen: I will post the editd draft to the SC discussion Forum
[09:28] Callipygian Christensen: Item 2
[09:28] Callipygian Christensen: meeting procedure draft
[09:28] Callipygian Christensen: please review the draft. I will also post it on the Forum for discussion.
[09:29] Callipygian Christensen: we will bring it forward at the next meeting for adoption
[09:29] Callipygian Christensen: Any comments from SC members?
[09:30] Lilith Ivory is offline.
[09:30] Callipygian Christensen: well ot from Lilith right now
[09:30] Callipygian Christensen: Soro, Aliasi, any comment?
[09:30] Callipygian Christensen: ack..completion in error..ARRIA
[09:31] Callipygian Christensen: I don't see Arria or Soro typing so will continue
[09:32] Rosie Gray quietly leaves
[09:32] Callipygian Christensen: Forum management and moderation:
[09:33] Callipygian Christensen: If any member of the SC is unaware of how to add a member, please let me know so that we can go through it
[09:34] Soro Dagostino raises hand
[09:34] Callipygian Christensen: ALl Sc members should have admin access to the Forums to do so, so letme know if you cannot access the adminstration control panel
[09:34] Callipygian Christensen: Soro?
[09:34] Soro Dagostino: Was there to be a change in the program?
[09:35] Soro Dagostino: I remember some talk . . . by Gwyn
[09:35] Tor Karlsvalt: we have some new residents.
[09:35] Tor Karlsvalt: I will be telling them to contact you guys.
[09:35] Tor Karlsvalt: working on a welcome note.
[09:36] Callipygian Christensen: Gwyn and I talked about some potential changes bt this agenda item has been repeatedly bumped due to long meetings For now I'd like to ensure SC members can access and add members and we can address any changes in a future process
[09:36] Soro Dagostino: kk
[09:36] Callipygian Christensen: ok..on to new business
[09:37] Callipygian Christensen: It is time to confirm the lection cycle dates for the 21st election onwards
[09:37] Callipygian Christensen: Posting the dates as we did for the 18th through 20th has worked very well
[09:37] Soro Dagostino: K
[09:38] Tor Karlsvalt nods
[09:38] Callipygian Christensen: I propose we continue this practise oso that everyone has easy access to the important dates
[09:38] Soro Dagostino: Agree
[09:38] Callipygian Christensen: I had hoped to have Lilith and Arria repeat their previous preparation
[09:39] Callipygian Christensen: I will ask Lilith after the meeting. Arria, would you work with Lilith as you did before to prepare the dates pleae?
[09:40] Callipygian Christensen: Hmm..I suspect Arria's connection from vacation isnt really working..
[09:40] Callipygian Christensen: Soro, are you ok with me askig both of them to repeat thier work after the meeting?
[09:40] Arria Perreault: sorry rl
[09:40] Callipygian Christensen: aha..Arria is typing!
[09:40] Soro Dagostino: I think you can rely on them to repeat their work.
[09:40] Arria Perreault: phone
[09:41] Callipygian Christensen: Arria will you work with Liith to prepare the dates for elections past the 20th cycle please?
[09:42] Arria Perreault: ok, I can
[09:42] Arria Perreault: did you vote on the duties of the Dean ?
[09:43] Callipygian Christensen: no, I will make the edits as discussed and we will vote next meeting
[09:43] Callipygian Christensen: ok..I will ask Liilith to work with you on that...thank you
[09:43] Callipygian Christensen: next tiem - Election of the Dean
[09:44] Callipygian Christensen: in the consitutional amendment that was not passed by the RA it was stated that election of the Dean would occur each July
[09:44] Callipygian Christensen: so while we are not bound by that at this time, I still think we should honour the intent of it, albeit somewhat behind schedule
[09:45] Callipygian Christensen: I suggest we hold elections for the Dean at a meeting in early September, prior to the beginning of the 20th RA election cycle
[09:45] Callipygian Christensen: Thought from either of you?
[09:46] Soro Dagostino: Calli do you want to do it again?
[09:46] Callipygian Christensen: Ask me in September
[09:46] Soro Dagostino:
[09:46] Soro Dagostino: 
[09:46] Callipygian Christensen: Even if I do want to, I believe we follow the process and hold an election though
[09:47] Soro Dagostino: White ballots take so little time.
[09:47] Callipygian Christensen laoughs
[09:47] Tor Karlsvalt:
[09:47] Callipygian Christensen: ok..so notice is given that we will hold an eletion in September
[09:48] Callipygian Christensen: next item: resubmitting the constituional amendment
[09:48] Callipygian Christensen: to provide history and context
[09:48] Soro Dagostino: I move that we defer this topic, out time has nearly expired.
[09:49] Callipygian Christensen: this amendment was submissted based on an appointed commmittee's work along with a procedure for nominating and inviting new SC members
[09:49] Callipygian Christensen: Soro..it is informational and we still have ten minutes
[09:49] Soro Dagostino: k
[09:50] Callipygian Christensen: since the failure of the consitutiona amendment and the passing of the procedural law left the law hanging with contradictions to the Consitution, the amendment needs to be resubmitted to RA
[09:51] Soro Dagostino: So move.
[09:51] Callipygian Christensen: this isn't a voting matter for us, it is work from a committee, but sine I was the original poster of the motion I am notifying the SC of the resubmission
[09:51] Callipygian Christensen: thank you Soro..if it doesnt pass this time we can address the contrdictions then
[09:52] Callipygian Christensen: final item
[09:52] Callipygian Christensen: reform of appeal/impeachment/judiciary process
[09:53] Callipygian Christensen: it is not secret that the existing mish mash of policies, rules, and practises around these issues is totally unworkable
[09:54] Callipygian Christensen: I propose that we draft a proposal that lays out a clear process of which arm of goverment addresses complaints, who hears apppeals, and the process that impeachment follows
[09:54] Callipygian Christensen: I know this is an area of interest to you Soro
[09:55] Callipygian Christensen: Would you be willing to work with me on this..along with Delia perhaps if she is willing?
[09:55] Soro Dagostino: It is . . .
[09:55] Soro Dagostino: Yes.
[09:55] Tor Karlsvalt perks up.
[09:55] Callipygian Christensen: Arria - any thoughts or desire to participate?
[09:55] Delia Lake: I would do that, yes
[09:55] Soro Dagostino: TY
[09:55] Callipygian Christensen: Thank you Delia
[09:56] Arria Perreault: yes, I can
[09:57] Callipygian Christensen: We will schedule a meeting to get started then.
[09:58] Callipygian Christensen: that concludes our agenda items other than next meeting date. Before we adjourn I invite any citizens present to ask any queston or make any comment they wish to..as long asit is concise
[09:58] Shep (shep.titian): Nothing here
[09:58] Delia Lake: good meeting, Calli. thank you
[09:59] Tor Karlsvalt: Just good job, and I look for forward to the issus around appeals and impeachment.
[09:59] Callipygian Christensen: thank you Delia, SHep, Tor (and others who had to leave) for attending!
[09:59] Soro Dagostino: ((Looks around for the rolled up newspaper))
[09:59] Callipygian Christensen: next meeting August 25th so we can vote on these procedural matters?
[09:59] Tor Karlsvalt:
[10:00] Delia Lake doesn't have rolled newspaper but offers Soro some wet noodles as an alternative
[10:00] Callipygian Christensen: what is a good time for the two of yo...8 again..7..9..?
[10:00] Soro Dagostino: To push up the hill?
[10:00] Shep (shep.titian): Eeewwww whats he going to do with those!!!!
[10:00] Delia Lake: hehe
[10:01] Callipygian Christensen: *coughcough*
[10:01] Soro Dagostino: 8 works.
[10:01] Callipygian Christensen: sitll trying to get a meeting date set
[10:01] Shep (shep.titian): Thats nothing you've mentioned l;ove )))
[10:01] Arria Perreault: 25.8 is fine, 7, 8, 9 are fine for me
[10:01] Callipygian Christensen: ok then 8 it is on august 25th
[10:01] Soro Dagostino: cool
[10:02] Callipygian Christensen: there being no further busineess..I move we adjourn ..sorro, arria?
[10:02] Arria Perreault: aye
[10:03] Soro Dagostino: ok
[10:03] Callipygian Christensen: thank you everyone!
[10:03] Tor Karlsvalt: ♫~~♫~~APPLAUSE~~♫~~♫
[10:03] Callipygian Christensen: meeting aadjourned