All three of my fishing villiage houses was passed by the previous government. They was given a look over when they was the original prim builds, and then given another look over when converted to mesh by both pat and rosie. It meant that those three buildings was given the nod by the previous government.
I just got a notecard from Ceaser saying he wants the builds changed before the current government "finalises" them with the contract.
The changes would entail rebuilding two builds FROM SCRATCH and re-aligning textures on all three of them.
...and they deny they are trying to push my builds off of the dock of LA
So does this mean that a current government can undo and counter-mand anything a previous government has given their approval for? This isn;t a democracy in CDS right now... it's people on a power trip.
All three of my fishing villiage houses was passed by the previous government. They was given a look over when they was the original prim builds, and then given another look over when converted to mesh by both pat and rosie. It meant that those three buildings was given the nod by the previous government.
I just got a notecard from Ceaser saying he wants the builds changed before the current government "finalises" them with the contract.
The changes would entail rebuilding two builds FROM SCRATCH and re-aligning textures on all three of them.
...and they deny they are trying to push my builds off of the dock of LA
So does this mean that a current government can undo and counter-mand anything a previous government has given their approval for? This isn;t a democracy in CDS right now... it's people on a power trip.
Well, I don't know anything about the builds other than it seems to me from what I read that others may not like yours NEARLY as much as you do. But I can answer your question, and the answer is yes.
When the people elect a new executive administration into office, this new government can make changes to MANY things that an older administration had given approval too. That's why the electorate replaces government. They WANT change. That's the very heartbeat of democracy.
The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government — lest it come to dominate our lives and interests. Patrick Henry
All three of my fishing villiage houses was passed by the previous government. They was given a look over when they was the original prim builds, and then given another look over when converted to mesh by both pat and rosie. It meant that those three buildings was given the nod by the previous government.
I just got a notecard from Ceaser saying he wants the builds changed before the current government "finalises" them with the contract.
The changes would entail rebuilding two builds FROM SCRATCH and re-aligning textures on all three of them.
...and they deny they are trying to push my builds off of the dock of LA
So does this mean that a current government can undo and counter-mand anything a previous government has given their approval for? This isn;t a democracy in CDS right now... it's people on a power trip.
JerryDon Lane wrote:
Well, I don't know anything about the builds other than it seems to me from what I read that others may not like yours NEARLY as much as you do. But I can answer your question, and the answer is yes.
When the people elect a new executive administration into office, this new government can make changes to MANY things that an older administration had given approval too. That's why the electorate replaces government. They WANT change. That's the very heartbeat of democracy.
I put it to you, Jerry, that what the electorate actually want is a government that takes account of decisions formerly made in its name, and therefore is not prepared to antagonise parties whose agreements its predecessor had entered into in good faith.
The outcome would otherwise be that no-one of sense will undertake work with such an administration, and the suspicion will arise that all CDS administrations to come will act in like manner when it suits them, but not necessarily suit those who had voted them in.
In short, cannot they, and you, Jerry, get it through your head that behaviour like that is bad for business?
All three of my fishing villiage houses was passed by the previous government. They was given a look over when they was the original prim builds, and then given another look over when converted to mesh by both pat and rosie. It meant that those three buildings was given the nod by the previous government.
I just got a notecard from Ceaser saying he wants the builds changed before the current government "finalises" them with the contract.
The changes would entail rebuilding two builds FROM SCRATCH and re-aligning textures on all three of them.
...and they deny they are trying to push my builds off of the dock of LA
So does this mean that a current government can undo and counter-mand anything a previous government has given their approval for? This isn;t a democracy in CDS right now... it's people on a power trip.
JerryDon Lane wrote:
Well, I don't know anything about the builds other than it seems to me from what I read that others may not like yours NEARLY as much as you do. But I can answer your question, and the answer is yes.
When the people elect a new executive administration into office, this new government can make changes to MANY things that an older administration had given approval too. That's why the electorate replaces government. They WANT change. That's the very heartbeat of democracy.
I put it to you, Jerry, that what the electorate actually want is a government that takes account of decisions formerly made in its name, and therefore is not prepared to antagonise parties whose agreements its predecessor had entered into in good faith.
The outcome would otherwise be that no-one of sense will undertake work with such an administration, and the suspicion will arise that all CDS administrations to come will act in like manner when it suits them, but not necessarily suit those who had voted them in.
In short, cannot they, and you, Jerry, get it through your head that behaviour like that is bad for business?
Horsehocky.....what the electorate wants is to actually be represented. Not just your little group of friends, Pip.....EVERYBODY.
And we wanted change....badly so.....I hope this administration takes that change all the way to the bank. This was just one election of many to come.
The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government — lest it come to dominate our lives and interests. Patrick Henry
I put it to you, Jerry, that what the electorate actually want is a government that takes account of decisions formerly made in its name, and therefore is not prepared to antagonise parties whose agreements its predecessor had entered into in good faith.
The outcome would otherwise be that no-one of sense will undertake work with such an administration, and the suspicion will arise that all CDS administrations to come will act in like manner when it suits them, but not necessarily suit those who had voted them in.
In short, cannot they, and you, Jerry, get it through your head that behaviour like that is bad for business?
Horsehocky.....what the electorate wants is to actually be represented. Not just your little group of friends, Pip.....EVERYBODY.
And we wanted change....badly so.....I hope this administration takes that change all the way to the bank. This was just one election of many to come.
Jerry, do you think people believe what you're spouting? You do? Then that makes you someone who never grasped what's implied by your derisory number of votes.
It implies that nothing you say is in their name. This administration has made the poorest possible start, and what it's doing is most certainly bad for business. Vic has both an excellent case and a loud voice, so your making light of their high-handed action makes you an utter cretin. All previous administrations have represented the electorate, never just a section, let alone my "little group of friends" as you put, whoever you think they are ...
You seem to think yourself privy to just who my SL friends are, Jerry. You seem to regard my friends as your business, which they most certainly are not. So, I challenge you .... name them if you think them such a small group. Then all those you haven't named will quietly know just what a lying scumbag you really are.
I put it to you, Jerry, that what the electorate actually want is a government that takes account of decisions formerly made in its name, and therefore is not prepared to antagonise parties whose agreements its predecessor had entered into in good faith.
The outcome would otherwise be that no-one of sense will undertake work with such an administration, and the suspicion will arise that all CDS administrations to come will act in like manner when it suits them, but not necessarily suit those who had voted them in.
In short, cannot they, and you, Jerry, get it through your head that behaviour like that is bad for business?
Horsehocky.....what the electorate wants is to actually be represented. Not just your little group of friends, Pip.....EVERYBODY.
And we wanted change....badly so.....I hope this administration takes that change all the way to the bank. This was just one election of many to come.
Jerry, do you think people believe what you're spouting? You do? Then that makes you someone who never grasped what's implied by your derisory number of votes.
It implies that nothing you say is in their name. This administration has made the poorest possible start, and what it's doing is most certainly bad for business. Vic has both an excellent case and a loud voice, so your making light of their high-handed action makes you an utter cretin. All previous administrations have represented the electorate, never just a section, let alone my "little group of friends" as you put, whoever you think they are ...
You seem to think yourself privy to just who my SL friends are, Jerry. You seem to regard my friends as your business, which they most certainly are not. So, I challenge you .... name them if you think them such a small group. Then all those you haven't named will quietly know just what a lying scumbag you really are.
Pip Torok
Aren't you glad you live in a democracy where you can personally attack and name call like that and actually not have your feelings suppressed? Viva La Democracy!
The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government — lest it come to dominate our lives and interests. Patrick Henry
In short, cannot they, and you, Jerry, get it through your head that behaviour like that is bad for business?
to which you had replied:
Horsehocky.....what the electorate wants is to actually be represented. Not just your little group of friends, Pip.....EVERYBODY.
And we wanted change....badly so.....I hope this administration takes that change all the way to the bank. This was just one election of many to come.
(end quote)
Jerry, do you think people believe what you're spouting? You do? Then that makes you someone who never grasped what's implied by your derisory number of votes.
It implies that nothing you say is in their name ...
... All previous administrations have represented the electorate, never just a section, let alone my "little group of friends" as you put it, whoever you think they are ...
You seem to think yourself privy to just who my SL friends are, Jerry. You seem to regard my friends as your business, which they most certainly are not. So, I challenge you .... name them if you think them such a small group. Then all those you haven't named will quietly know just what a lying scumbag you really are.
Pip Torok
Aren't you glad you live in a democracy where you can personally attack and name call like that and actually not have your feelings suppressed? Viva La Democracy!
I have challenged you to show readers that previous administrations represented not the whole electorate, but simply my "little group of friends". In making that assertion, you poked your nose in where it has no business to poke, in implying very clearly just who this "little group" is.
So I challenge you a second time ... to name who you think they are, here and now.
If they're such a little group, Jerry, then surely that wouldn't take long.
But, then again, those you fail to name will quietly notice the nothingness behind your smoke 'n mirrors.
So will you duck and run from a challenge a second time, Jerry?
I don't want to speak for JerryDon. I haven't talked to him for a couple of weeks inworld.
I don't view you as a mastermind, but you clearly do feel sympathy for Cadence, Rosie, Pat, for instance. And you seem to feel rivalry for JerryDon, Bagheera, Ceasar, Cleo.
I *think* you feel rivalry with me as well, but not quite as strongly (and I don't feel a rival to you either, but we don't always see eye to eye).
Is that what you asked? I know it wasn't JerryDon, but I think I captured what you were asking?
Pip,
The problem is, maybe a matter of misinterpretation, or no offense, because you are British and being too polite or you don't realize American protocol. You see, you need to skip right to the "triple-dog-dare."
Cleo
Jerry, do you think people believe what you're spouting? You do? Then that makes you someone who never grasped what's implied by your derisory number of votes.
Considering the Ceasart got elected fairly, it is a reasonable assumption that the people that voted him in wanted him to rep[resent them.
Given Cleo got the largest number of first votes in the RA, she is the most popular RA member, too.
The implications are pretty clear. Power is now being shared between 2 or more groups in CDS. Not sure the problem? That's how democracy is supposed to work ... ?
(And if you feel rivalry with the Chancellor, thank your lucky stars that CDS isn't closer to British Parliamentary rules - since Cleo would be the LRA, and would form a government and run it.)
All three of my fishing villiage houses was passed by the previous government. They was given a look over when they was the original prim builds, and then given another look over when converted to mesh by both pat and rosie. It meant that those three buildings was given the nod by the previous government.
I just got a notecard from Ceaser saying he wants the builds changed before the current government "finalises" them with the contract.
The changes would entail rebuilding two builds FROM SCRATCH and re-aligning textures on all three of them.
...and they deny they are trying to push my builds off of the dock of LA
So does this mean that a current government can undo and counter-mand anything a previous government has given their approval for? This isn;t a democracy in CDS right now... it's people on a power trip.
So, if these builds weren't ready, why was the fishing village set for sale with them in place?
All three of my fishing villiage houses was passed by the previous government. They was given a look over when they was the original prim builds, and then given another look over when converted to mesh by both pat and rosie. It meant that those three buildings was given the nod by the previous government.
I just got a notecard from Ceaser saying he wants the builds changed before the current government "finalises" them with the contract.
The changes would entail rebuilding two builds FROM SCRATCH and re-aligning textures on all three of them.
...and they deny they are trying to push my builds off of the dock of LA
So does this mean that a current government can undo and counter-mand anything a previous government has given their approval for? This isn;t a democracy in CDS right now... it's people on a power trip.
So, if these builds weren't ready, why was the fishing village set for sale with them in place?
Pat, Vic asserts that the build was approved by you during your term. Is this the case? I have seen no record of it, though I am pretty sure we generally don't keep records ...
So, if these builds weren't ready, why was the fishing village set for sale with them in place? Patroklus
I am so glad the fishing village has been set for sale ! I am sure lots of reasons could be found to keep the land locked down as they have ever since Tor took it off the market during the 19th RA term, costing CDS who knows how many us dollars, hundreds of dollars for sure, wouldn't you think? (betcha trebor wont do that audit for us). Let's see we had about half a sim off the market for several months, a quarter for many more months and a few more parcels off for several even more months so each parcel's tier times how ever many months its been,since they were taken off, what a year ago now? Before any more legislation goes through about redesigning sims we need to figure out the true cost in lindens of the redesign initiated by the Tor Karlsvalt regime and just now finally put back in place 100 percent by Bagheera and Ceasar despite numerous obstacles put there by the enclavist regimes.
But YES, we have citizens in parcels now. whew!!! HURRAY!
The land in LA is all sold now. ALL of it. That is a good thing !!! This is what the goal of the redesign was in the first place, at least that is what everyone who was for it said the goal was. To get people to want to Live in LA ! And guess what ... THEY DO!
I am glad that chapter of our history is closed. I will personally chalk it all up to expansionists vs. enclavists.
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I am so glad the fishing village has been set for sale ! I am sure lots of reasons could be found to keep the land locked down since Tor took it off the market during the 19th RA term, costing CDS who knows how many us dollars. ( bet trebor wont do that audit for us) But YES, we have citizens in parcels now.
The land in LA is all sold now. ALL of it. That is a good thing !!! This is what the goal of the redesign was in the first place, at least that is what everyone who was for it said the goal was. To get people to want to Live in LA ! And guess what ... THEY DO!
I am glad that chapter of our history is closed. I will personally chalk it all up to expansionists vs. enclavists.
... yeah Vic, And the beat goes on.... la de da de da..
I like the Sonny and Cher version the best.
The beat goes on, beat goes on
Drums keep pounding a rhythm to the brain
La de da de de, la de da de da
Charleston was once the rage, uh huh
History has turned the page, uh huh
The miniskirt's the current thing, uh huh
Teenybopper is our newborn king, uh huh
And the beat goes on, beat goes on
Drums keep pounding a rhythm to the brain
La de da de de, la de da de da
The grocery store's the supermart, uh huh
Little girls still break their hearts, uh huh
And men still keep on marching off to war
Electrically they keep a baseball score
And the beat goes on, the beat goes on
Drums keep pounding a rhythm to the brain
La de da de de, la de da de da
Grandmas sit in chairs and reminisce
Boys keep chasing girls to get a kiss
The cars keep a going faster all the time
Bums still cries, "Hey buddy, have you got a dime?"
And the beat goes on, the beat goes on
Drums keep pounding a rhythm to the brain
La de da de de, la de da de da
And the beat goes on, yes, the beat goes on
And the beat goes on, and the beat goes on
The beat goes on and the beat goes on
The beat goes
Why was it set for sale if the plots were not ready? It makes no sense for Ceasar to demand that Vic make retrospective changes unless.... they weren't ready and he didn't bother to check.
Waiting for an answer on this.... deafening silence so far!
