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Dean of the SC incompetent biased and partisan

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I would like to direct the Dean of sc to
cease her biased and partisan statements about me on these forums. This is not moderation it is using the forums to put forward her political agenda.

MModeration of the forums is NOT chastising in a biased political way and then locking a thread so you get the last word.

I again move the SC to investigate Callipygian I n her inappropriate moderation of the forums

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cleopatraxigalia wrote:

I would like to direct the Dean of sc to
cease her biased and partisan statements about me on these forums. This is not moderation it is using the forums to put forward her political agenda.

MModeration of the forums is NOT chastising in a biased political way and then locking a thread so you get the last word.

I again move the SC to investigate Callipygian I n her inappropriate moderation of the forums

Cleo, you need to slow down and take a deep breath, you must be having a bad day to start saying things about Calli.
You of all people saying the forum is being used to put forward her political agenda, you have got to be kidding!

It appears many of your friends are leaving CDS, has it crossed your mind that maybe they leave because of YOU?

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Spider Upshaw wrote:
cleopatraxigalia wrote:

I would like to direct the Dean of sc to
cease her biased and partisan statements about me on these forums. This is not moderation it is using the forums to put forward her political agenda.

MModeration of the forums is NOT chastising in a biased political way and then locking a thread so you get the last word.

I again move the SC to investigate Callipygian I n her inappropriate moderation of the forums

Cleo, you need to slow down and take a deep breath, you must be having a bad day to start saying things about Calli.
You of all people saying the forum is being used to put forward her political agenda, you have got to be kidding!

It appears many of your friends are leaving CDS, has it crossed your mind that maybe they leave because of YOU?

Nope. You.

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My point is that Calli, is usurping her duty to moderate the forums fairly and properly and is INSTEAD as dean of the SC using this position to push a political agenda.

I refer you to this thread in particular but there are more.
http://forums.slcds.info/viewtopic.php? ... 1&start=15

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Postby Callipygian » Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:30 pm

Widget - feel free to start the thread again. I am locking this one and point out to Bromo, Rosie, Cleo, Gauius that 'look here to buy land' does not equal 'argue about the land sales policy again - and Cleo..keep your own subjects to your own posts please, throwing them randomly into other threads is disruptive.

We asked you to self -moderate- please respect those trying to use Forum threads productively and take the derivative debates elsewhere.

For Calli to say this.. to ME only and not to other people over and over... is blatantly her again pushing her political agenda as the dean of the SC , INSTEAD of moderating the forums as she is bound by her oath to do, she is NOT doing so, and actually herself making inflammatory statements that are biased and not making the forums any better.

The SC is woefully incompetent to support this sort of behavior. To "have the last word" , chastise, then lock a thread and leave it is not moderating in any way shape or form. It is pushing the SC's political agenda but how is it moderating the forums? Is this SC policy....??? biased scolding in red letters and locking threads?

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Bromo, I gave you a tinfoil hat, you must be forgetting to wear it. For you well being you need to wear it 24/7.

Cleo: well in the past few days you have asked for removal of umm 2 or 3 people from the Ra and the SC whom you claim have committed horrible sins against the House Of Cleo.
If you keep going at this pace you will soon be living alone in CDS, opps, well no Ceasar would be at your side directing.. no one

I have always believed that there are some people who should never be put in charge of others, they should never be given power over others as they do not have what I guess you would call a soul. They do not have a heart for others or the feelings of others. You and Ceasar are prim examples of ones that should never have power over others. I do not know what drives you to do the things you do but then again I really do not care. If you can't control someone you want nothing to do with them.

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Bromo Ivory wrote:

Nope. You.

I'm sorry Spider, but I'm going to have to say, I kind of agree - you really attack with a vengeance that often seems almost inappropriate. Not this thread as much as some others.
But seriously, that kind of banter does nothing to encourage someone to be here.
I had a friend interested in being here and then she read the forums and said 'hell no'.
This forum is the portal into our community.
If we care about it then this bickering needs to somehow be toned down.
If you dont like the post someone makes, there is a way to disagree without digressing (which i have been prone to also)
Make it a good habit to 'respond' to situations rather than 'react'.

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Moonrise Azalee wrote:
Bromo Ivory wrote:

Nope. You.

I'm sorry Spider, but I'm going to have to say, I kind of agree - you really attack with a vengeance that often seems almost inappropriate. Not this thread as much as some others.
But seriously, that kind of banter does nothing to encourage someone to be here.
I had a friend interested in being here and then she read the forums and said 'hell no'.
This forum is the portal into our community.
If we care about it then this bickering needs to somehow be toned down.
If you dont like the post someone makes, there is a way to disagree without digressing (which i have been prone to also)
Make it a good habit to 'respond' to situations rather than 'react'.

Well Moonrise that would be fine if Cleo would stop attacking people, she attacks their moral character, honesty and integrity and you say well just let her say what she wants with no reply. I guess to impress your friend everyone at CDS should just lay down and let Cleo walk all over them.
Do you think the words incompetent and biased are nicey nice?

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Spider Upshaw wrote:

Well Moonrise that would be fine if Cleo would stop attacking people, she attacks their moral character, honesty and integrity and you say well just let her say what she wants with no reply. I guess to impress your friend everyone at CDS should just lay down and let Cleo walk all over them.
Do you think the words incompetent and biased are nicey nice?

You can't control others, but you can control yourself.

If you feel she is attacking, ignore her. You certainly aren't adding anything from what I can tell, and are making things worse rather than better if your goal is to make the forums a calmer more rational place for discussing issues. Just a thought here.

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Bromo Ivory wrote:
Spider Upshaw wrote:

Well Moonrise that would be fine if Cleo would stop attacking people, she attacks their moral character, honesty and integrity and you say well just let her say what she wants with no reply. I guess to impress your friend everyone at CDS should just lay down and let Cleo walk all over them.
Do you think the words incompetent and biased are nicey nice?

You can't control others, but you can control yourself.

If you feel she is attacking, ignore her. You certainly aren't adding anything from what I can tell, and are making things worse rather than better if your goal is to make the forums a calmer more rational place for discussing issues. Just a thought here.

IGNORE HER? When she learns to control herself I may consider it but until then Bromo you need to think before you say things like this. Your pen is no less wicked then mine as you run to her defense and call out anyone who stands up to her. It appears you have a high opinion of yourself and think all other Citizens of CDS who do not support her are morons and should be silent. You support a person who wants total control over other people, I would call her a Dictator or say she wants to run a Police State. She can't even control herself at RA meetings, always disruptive and constantly interrupts when others talk.

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Spider Upshaw wrote:

IGNORE HER? When she learns to control herself I may consider it but until then Brom you need to think before you say things like this. Your pen is no less wicked then mine as you run to her defense and call out anyone who stands up to her. It appears you have a high opinion of yourself and think all other Citizens of CDS who do not support her are morons and should be silent. You support a person who wants total control over other people, I would call her a Dictator or say she wants to run a Police State.

See? That didn't help, did it? I bet you didn't even feel better.

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Moonrise I agree that the forums are a turnoff and that is the purpose of this thread. The Dean of the SC is where the buck stops because the SC is legally responsible for moderation the forums. When the only thing thw SC does to moderate is join in a flame war on the deans political opponent and write in red and lock a.thread then something needs to change. I have been willing to continue to push for change despite incessant flaming from others. This is not an attack on calli it is a plea for a policy that is fair to everyone and mechanisms that work to protect freedom of speech without allowing free for all.

The way the SC is moderating the forums now doesn't work and appears to me to be partisan. Because our community choose years ago not to have a Judiciary thw SC is thw only recourse we have.

I brought a complaint against calli a while ago and there was a reposting of the moderation guidelines in the forums I hope the whole community will push the SC to make fair and reasonable effort to moderate ..... simply making biased comments against their political foes and locking a thread and leaving it doesn't do much to help and I believe leaves the SC culpable ... what do we want on these forums. ???? Don't shoot the messenger. I have a right to discuss my political opinions just like everyone else. And my opinion is that the SC led by the Dean are NOT moderation the forums well.

I suggest they make policy and rules and then enforce them consistently and let us know exactly what polo y and procedure they follow so we can see that's fair and done per protocol. There needs to also be a transparent appeal process. The forums ARE a big part of CDS and the legacy that will remain years after the prims are all gone.

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Moderation seemed pretty reasonable to me.

I am locking this one and point out to Bromo, Rosie, Cleo, Gauius that 'look here to buy land' does not equal 'argue about the land sales policy again

Several people are mentioned, not all of whom are on the same 'side'. Pretty even-handed if you ask me.

Cleo..keep your own subjects to your own posts please, throwing them randomly into other threads is disruptive.

Well, it might be an idea to follow Cally's advice. This does tend to be a tendency of yours. You have a number of issues you want to beat people over the head with and you dredge them up again and again irrespective of the topic at hand. It derails the thread. I've seen you do this on many occasions so it's good you are being called out on it.

You wanted more forum moderation, you got it. No point complaining if you come off badly. Just behave yourself better :)

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Also I did not start out filing complaints against the SC ... no, early in the 20th RA I sat down with lilith and calli begging for some sort of control here. I have also flagged many many posts with obvious violations with inadequate action by the SC.

The Most Important Role Of The GOVERNMENT Is TO protect it's people. All of them. Otherwise there is no freedom.

This campaign to clean up the forums so that everyone despite political views can safely post here.

Let's get the SC to do their job or give it someone who will.

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Pat of course you think it is fair because you are aligned with calli....and my political foe. ..

The test of fairness is whether the government is fair to their opponents.

Think of the freedom riders. The people who were happy with the way things were in society at the time thought that the police showing up late and allowing the KKK to have their way with the riders was.fair.

So pat saying what calli did to me was for holds no merit to me. I have recently flagged posts of yours pat,.sending a notice to the sc via the forum flag, and nothing was done.

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Patroklus Murakami wrote:

Moderation seemed pretty reasonable to me.

I am locking this one and point out to Bromo, Rosie, Cleo, Gauius that 'look here to buy land' does not equal 'argue about the land sales policy again

Several people are mentioned, not all of whom are on the same 'side'. Pretty even-handed if you ask me.

I actually like that Calli is more active and we are actually seeing some moderation. I looked at the thread and saw that in this instance, I had participated in turning it into an argument thread, so I felt duly chastised.

I actually wish we had some more of it, but even at the level it is at right now seems to have cut down on the simple name calling, which is a real step in the right direction.

So look. You and I AGREE! Don't you dare change your mind now. ;-)

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